yohan

Please study http://www.smu.edu/experts/study-documents/family-violence-study-may2006.pdf I think a moderator is required to clean up data-garbage. Sounds like greetings from a mental hospital....

They do not even have an own opinion, which they can explain to me - I respect another person's opinion, if he/she brings some useable arguments. If I agree with these arguments is a different matter of course...anyway, we could talk about it. All what these anti-spanking lobby can say, is something like 'it is not good'...that's all? I gave many arguments, where it is reasonable to beat a woman, from self-defense up to teenager-discipline...Reply: a brainless one-liner remark, useless for any discussion about the subject. What should I answer to such an argument? 1- It would be more noble for the smaller woman not to start aggressive behaviour against the larger man out of any or no reason, but to walk away herself... 2- I do not like MEN being hit. 3- Thr risk to be beaten up in return is with the person, who started the violent incident. I see no reason, why we should make a difference, if this is a man or a woman.. 4- Women in the Western world are in some categories more violent than men, it is not true, that men as a majority are violent aggressors, and women are as majority the helpless victims. - To say this is untrue feminist brainwashing propaganda. 5- Even in non-feminist countries women are violent, a newly investigation by the Ministry of Education of Japan found the relationship of violent men : violent women is 2 :1. By far not all domestic violence is started by men. About child-mistreatment - which is also a form of domestic violence - the majority of children are mistreated by their biological mother. I see no reason, why it should be 'noble' for the man to smile, to close his eyes and to walk out of his own house after being insulted and punched by his wife...

I agree with TermiOn. This is a very good and realistic explication of the overall situation in this world. Only a narrow-minded feminist (male or female), who was never out of the US and has never seen anything else but a feminist society in his/her life might question the truth of this statement. Violence does not exist solely from men against women, but women are also violent. - The majority of child mistreatment crimes is done by women, boys are more frequently mistreated by their mothers than girls...why should this all remain unpunished or regulated by lenient sentences, because the aggressor is a woman? Women are showing up in reported domestic violence against men in remarkable figures and are leading in categories I mentioned before: using abusive language, provocating with insulting remarks, throwing something, scratching, biting, spiting, kicking ... Only an idiot with a masochistic background can recommend, the man should smile and walk away, if he cannot tolerate such psychotic violent behaviour anymore. On the other side, should the violence start by the man by rising his voice or moving his foot too loud against a chair, it is PC-correctly recommend to call 911 and ask for a restrain order, to file for divorce, take the house and car, take at least 50 to 75 percent of all assets and ask for alimony for life - in case of problems, false rape allegations are doing the job with lawyers paid out of tax-payers money to support feminist organizations like NOW!. Double standard? I think so...

What would you do? Yes, spitting is clearly a form of violence - using abusive language, scratching, kicking and so on are also considered as violence. Just check it with your lawyer if you do not believe me. It seems to me you need some legal advice. And yes, some women deserve a good spanking....

Spitting is clearly a form of violence - using abusive language, scratching, kicking and so on are also considered as violence. Such violence is often chosen by women to attack men sometimes out of no understandable reason. The gender is irrelevant however, the story of hitting her is violence, but hitting him is not violence does not work. If an aggressor is attacking you, it is up to you to decide IF and HOW you defend yourself in a reasonable form. This is called self-defense. Generally, I see no reason, why the male victim should 'smile and walk away', as some strange people seem to suggest. I think, it is the female aggressor, who should RUN away or should be forced to do so. The argument 'spit back' sounds funny, however it is nobody's business to give orders to the male victim about his possible defense. You cannot expect, that spitting will cause spitting in return, that hitting will cause hitting in return... Yes, correct, you are right.

I gave you many valid arguments. Just read back... Your one-liners are quite brainless today, BTW.

I have no idea, who the other posters are - so I cannot call them my friends. You should not mix up women and children...there is a difference between these two words. Up to now I see very little of 'friends' sharing your opinion. Most men do not like to be beaten up by a violent woman, continuing smiling and doing nothing. I think, your opinion is indeed the minority.

I am married since over 30 years always with the same woman, never divorced. Your presumptions are wrong, as usual. How long are you married?

It is not ghetto mentality. It is you, who cannot understand, that other people do not share your opinion about this topic. This is called free speech and not ghetto mentality. You should accept the fact, that it is you, who presents the minority in this thread. To accuse me to promote drugs or prostitution is pure nonsense.

Reading your posting I presume, you did not finish elementary school... Could you write something related to the topic, please?

Some people just do not understand the difference between 'force' and 'violence', despite they claim to be native English speakers. It is not the same, if I walk in the street and I beat up an unknown child without any reason - or if I force my child to stop violent behaviour against others. For some strange people is no difference between an aggressor and a victim, or even the victim is the aggressor and the aggressor the victim. If an unknown woman out of nothing kicks me, hits me or spits into my face, then it is me, who is the victim and it is me - the victim - who has the right to defend myself. It is me, who has the right to choose my way of defense. Might be, that some masochist man smiles and enjoys to be beaten up by women, just read some replies of this thread - but I do not like that and I will stop her to continue this VIOLENT behaviour against me. If she gets hurt, because I might hit back is her RISK. This is reasonable self-defense. Of course, if she holds me at gunpoint, and I have a handgun too, then she might be fired on. Her risk. You must be a rather psychotic feminist if you want to explain me, this woman was right to hold me at gunpoint and I was violent to fire her on, because she is a weak woman...

Look in a mirror first! I did not say that, this is what I said: Yes, there are some creative ways, but they work not always. So, what to do, when it does not work out as expected? How old is for you a child? A 14-years old boy will not accept grounding, he will call you an idiot.... Before you call others to be a moron, better read first of all carefully, what the other person really said... My question: You do not want to interact with such violent people, the problem is however, they want to interact with you - and will not ask for your permission. So again, what to do? Your answer: 4- more ignorant b.s. Seems you have a short memory and you are already running out of arguments...to babble 'bullshit, bullshit...' is not a valid argument, sorry.

To punish a child for violent misbehaviour is not child abuse. To defend yourself against a violent woman attacking you is not abusing the woman. To smile, while a child misbehaves in a violent way and doing nothing else, is irresponsible. To smile, while a violent women is hitting you, sounds me masochistic. To consider criminal behaviour of criminals already in prison as educational, is idiotic. Reading your drivel, sounds me, you lost already contact with the real world ...

1- This is your child spitting on you, it is up to you how you educate and discipline your child spitting on you. However you have to accept the fact, that your child, because you failed to discipline it for spitting on you, it will most likely try to spit on other children, too and you should not be surprised, if these children will spit back or beat up your child in return. Do not blame the other children or even adults for their behaviour, if they do not act in the way you do. To call these children and adults stupid or lazy because of your own incapability to discipline your child with strict punishment when necessary is the wrong way. 2- Yes, there are some creative ways, but they work not always. So, what to do, when it does not work out as expected? How old is for you a child? A 14-years old boy will not accept grounding, he will call you an idiot (and he is right, because you failed to teach him good manners, when he was still a small child). 3- Yes, fucked up children, because they never heard a clear 'NO' and parents running on the non-spanking idea are totally unable to control them. To blame are here the parents, not the children. 4- You do not want to interact with such violent people, the problem is however, they want to interact with you - and will not ask for your permission. So again, what to do?

Thank you, this must be a wonderful marriage, where the man is allowed to defend himself, because the wife shows up with a gun. Thank you, thank you. First of all, as men and women are equals, you should say in case of quarrels, both, the man and the woman should walk away in 2 different directions. Why should the woman stay, and only the man move on? This sounds me like a feminist dream....hit your man, the man walks away - and because the woman in living in HIS house, she wants to call it from now on HER house, and of course HER car, and HER money, as she expects alimony up to the end of her life and maybe 75 percent of HIS savings... You see, to walk away is not so easy for a man, I think, it is better, the woman should walk away...however it seems, women do not like that idea. But why not? There are plenty of good men, who are looking for years to meet a nice girl, but cannot find her (who is the man looking for a woman, who is hitting him and taking away his property?) and finally, these men marry a foreign wife. The feminist opinion about divorce is, that it should be lucrative and fun - for the woman only of course - and even in case it was the woman, who started the incident.