CelticPride

haha dude your still on here lol, i got done with my essay a few minutes ago

Good points, that is exactly why I don't believe in religion even though I am a christian. I am an intellectual, a thinker and I don't believe in any institution which inhibits my own interpretation of what I have read (or interprets it for me i.e. The Papacy). What I have a problem with is people who totally write off spirituality in general, and I think many would agree with me.

Agreed, if organized relgion esp. born-again christianity really believed what they preached then they wouldn't need to collect tithes, because the Lord would provide, right? Give your tithes right to the poor not to a corrupt organizaton who will fruitlessly waste it on plasma tvs and italian leather boots then try to justfy their gluttony by quoting some verse from the bble whch is completely out of context. Jesus said something like "what you have done for these (the poor and needy) the least of my brothers you have done for me." So I think it's better to give your money right to Jesus than some fat, rich idiot who can't tell the dfference between a christian and a republican.

Welcome to GF BassMasta, enjoy ranting and raving about.. everything and post good quality threads to increase your knowledge and understanding. Organized religion can suck my balls as well and also lick my scrotum sack and give me a rim job.

As for Lionheart- not interested. We could go on all day about this 'christian' does this or this 'muslim' does that. I think we should focus on the founders and their teachings and actions so we don't let this thread go astray. I get my knowledge about Mohammed from his words and deeds, not from any preacher. I quoted that particular verse from bukhari because I just think that it's rediculous how a muslim has to wash a certain way to please Allah. He can't please Allah just because he didn't wash his privates with an ODD number of stones? Would it really make a difference if he washed himself with an EVEN number of stones?

shakes head I don't know where to begin... Saying you don't believe in hadiths and then quoting from one- nice. Even the most respected SUNNI scholars believe that SAHIH (correct) hadiths are truth. So if you want to use the old "weak hadith" excuse then you are claiming to have more knowledge about islam than they are. If you don't want me to use hadith then I will quote right from the quran to show how rediculous your religion is, and since you brought up Alexander the Great how about we see what Allah has to say about him: Qur

Can't reply to the accusation so you attack the accuser, typical muslim evasion tactic. My reply: hey Hamza123, here's more on how dumb your religion is: Bukhari:V1B4N163 “The Prophet said, ‘Whoever cleans his private parts with stones should do it with an odd number of stones. And whoever wakes up should wash his hands before putting them in the water for ablution. Nobody knows where his hands were during sleep.’” For those of you who don't know, the verse above is from Sahih Bukhari which is one of the compilations of 'hadith' or deeds and sayings of the prophet mohammed. Muslims consider the hadith in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim to be true.

I don't think there is a correct analogy between drugs and islam. "Converts" to drugs get into it either for the money or the power that comes from money and they sell it to the bottom rung of society which needs an escape. Coverts to islam either find something wrong with other religions (understandable) and go into it because it is very inclusive (e.g. former christians can still believe in jesus and former jews can still believe in moses) or they have had a bad experience with another religion. I'm not suggesting that the government should "go into islamic counrtries" I'm just saying that things like open challenges and televised debate could prove to most of the world the things wrong with islam. Also pressure on the government could certainly work e.g. stop funding terrorism with the oil we get from islamic countries and start investing our money in alternate energy sources.

We have the information and resources to defeat islam, but because of our western multiculturalism we are eventually inclined to become islamic. It's true, our doom is at hand. But, if we educate people of what islam really is and lean more conservatively in our governments we could defeat the one thing which has been the biggest threat to our way of life for 1400 years.

These are the Islamic quotes pertaining to fighting, Terrorism, War, Jihad, Martyrs/Mercenaries, and Muslim Militants http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes1.html#fighting Murder, Torture, Theivery & Slavery, "Peace, Islam style," Peaceful Muslims, "No Freedom, No Choice," Deception, and Intolerance http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes2.html#murder Eye Witnesses, Megalomania, Inspiration, "Allah, Islam's Ilah," Ar Rahman http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes3.html#witnesses Demon's and Devils, Predestination, Muhammad's Morality, Love of Money, Lust, Muhammad's Paradise, Allah's Hell, Jews http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes4.html#demons Christians, Racism, Women in Islam, Stupidity, Islamic Science, Allah's Astronomy http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes5.html#christians Islamic Science always gives me a good laugh

There has never been any culture in wolrld history that ever condoned 53year old men having sex with 9 year old girls. Also keeping in mind that Mohammed was having sexual fantasies about her when she was 6 and it was never really Ayesha's choice to marry the prophet, I would say that even for his time and culture Mohammed was a pervert. Mohammed was not only a pedophile, but a murderer, terrorist, rapist, pirate, and most of all- a false prophet who either conned or forced the arabs to accept his twisted religion and then make war on the entire world, murdering and subjugating as they went.

As long as Islam exists there will always be problem with their stupid radicals. As long as the quran and islamic scripture say it's ok to kill disbelievers there will always be problems with islam. The solution- get rid of islam

I don't know why we put up with Islam at all. We have the resouces to defeat it, yet most of us are subject to islam-loving-get-along-with-everyone-and-everything bullcrap which is forced down our throats everyday either in the media or in public education. If we don't stand up and reveal the truth about what islam is and what it teaches then we will have to deal with terrorism, women's rights abuses, pedofilia, islamic fanaticism, and islamic expansionism forever. Islam won't be satisfied until it covers the entire earth with it's disgusting and evil presence, and we westerners are going to be the first to feel the effects of what islam's goals are if the islamic world ever unites again. I know evil when I see it. http://www.prophetofdoom.net

btw sorry for my late post- busy with studies. Yes, I am in a minority. I am not accepted by the traditional "left" (most of the left's beliefs are in direct contradiction of my own) and neither am I accepted by the traditional "right" (eg. I don't support the Iraq war). The entire political spectrum in this country (USA) is totally out of whack and full of contradictions, esp. in the "right"- calling themselves Christian but making war over practically nothing, and catering to the rich when they should be helping the people who need the tax break them most- the poor. I'm sick and tired of all these modern day force-it-down-your-throat "christians". I know quite a few of them even though I live in a "blue" state. I just believe that for the most part christians should be submissive to the government much like the early christians were to Rome. Christians should not force their beliefs on anyone. I see it like this: if christians don't like having abortion clinics, then preach against abortion but don't be contradictory and commit violent acts against women who have had abortions. Reach out to people who need care and mercy and don't be judgemental. If the majority of the people in this country really were christian then abortion clinics would go out of business- there would be no need for something that is generally not accepted. In other words: don't pass laws which would strip someone of their freedom and just accept things that you don't have control over. Keep the separation of Church and State intact. I would go on more about other social issues but the views expressed above come from the Bible (believe it or not) and I got most of it from the epistles. I think these "christians" need to read the whole bible and accept it and not wave passages and verses at people and tell them to "straighten up, fly right and believe what I believe or you're going to hell" and other crap like that. Hell is another topic which needs clarification that I will address later, but for now I need to attend to my studies.

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=82047 I think more of what I believe is here in this post/thread.