103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9/11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

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Tuesday, September 25, 2007

Note: In an effort to reclaim the meaning of certain highly-charged words, the word "defense" is replaced by the word "war" in all USG department names, position titles, and policy boards; for instance, "Secretary of Defense" is retitled "Secretary of War" to more accurately reflect the true nature of the position.

1. George W. Bush -- eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot

2. Dick Cheney -- former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several "war games"; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities

3. Donald Rumsfeld -- former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said "when that missile hit the Pentagon"

4. Paul Wolfowitz -- Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal

5. Richard Perle -- former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"

6. Douglas Feith -- effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member

7. Dov Zakheim -- Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind

8. George Tenet -- director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be "dual citizen" of US and Israel

9. Robert Mueller -- FBI director on 9-11; under his "leadership" FBI field agents' warnings of an imminent attack were stifled

10. Thomas Pickard -- took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Richard Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief; John O'Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard

11. Dale Watson -- former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents' warnings including an "urgent cable" from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi

12. Dave Frasca -- FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating "terrorist" patsies in CIA-operated flight schools

13. Marion "Spike" Bowman -- FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress

14. John Ashcroft -- Attorney General on 9-11; protected "terrorist" patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001

15. Michael Chertoff -- Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; likely Mossad agent

16. Michael Mukasey -- federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein's insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five dancing Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General; radical Zionist of Russian Jewish parentage; "dual citizen" of US and Israel

17. Ted Olson -- Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)

18. Colin Powell -- Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre

19. Condi Rice -- National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath

20. Tommy Thompson -- Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01

21. Jerome Hauer -- managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000

22. Porter Goss -- former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after "hookergate"

23. Bob Graham -- former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004

24. Marc Grossman -- Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel

25. Richard Armitage -- former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11

26. Philip Zelikow -- led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State; "dual citizen" of US and Israel

27. Ari Fleischer -- White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics

28. Andrew Card -- Bush's Chief of Staff on 9-11; was with Bush at Booker Elementary School in Florida on 9-11; claims to have whispered to Bush, "A second plane hit the second tower, America is under attack"

29. Karl Rove -- Bush's top strategist, known as "Bush's Brian"; America's Joseph Goebbels; was behind the campaign to oust Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question Bush's role in 9-11; in June 2005, said, "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 in the attacks and prepared for war, liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"

30. Richard Meyers -- in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

31. Ralph Eberhardt -- NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military

32. Larry Arnold -- NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA

33. Eric Findley -- Canadian Air Force Major General; acting commander of NORAD on 9-11

34. Montague Winfield -- Major General in charge of Pentagon war room on 9-10-01, the evening of September 10th he requested a rookie to stand in for him on 9-11

35. Richard Mies -- former Admiral; ran Global Guardian "war game" on 9-11 out of US Strategic Command (Stratcom) at Offutt Air Force Base; now CEO of Hicks & Associates, a "strategic consultant" to the USG dealing in "military transformation"

36. Henry Shelton -- Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11; supported formation of Able Danger

37. Peter Schoomaker -- US Army Chief of Staff; former SOCOM (Special Operations Command) chief; ran Able Danger

38. Geoffrey Lambert -- Major General; SOCOM (Special Operations Command) Intel Chief; made Able Danger, the program that tracked patsy "terrorists", off limits to FBI

39. John Brinkerhoff -- retired US Army Colonel who was a career senior executive in the Office of Secretary of War; from 1981 to 1983, FEMA associate director for national preparedness where he developed plan for martial law; claims intentions of Posse Comitatus are "misunderstood and misapplied", that USG has "full and absolute authority" to use troops to quell American uprising; after 9-11, joined Anser Institute for Homeland Security and wrote "talking points" supporting revised "national security initiatives" that would allow imposition of martial law

40. John Lehman -- Reagan's Navy Secretary from 1981 till 1987; claims US is in religious war against "violent, Islamic Fundamentalism"; member 9-11 Omission Commission; PNAC member

41. Tony Gentry -- Army Intelligence and Security Command General Counsel; ordered 2.5 terrabytes of Able Danger data destroyed

42. Philip Odeen -- as director of Program Analysis for the National Security Council, provided staff support to Henry Kissinger from 1971 to 1973; served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of War in Systems Analysis; named to chair the National War Panel in 1997; former president of Reynolds and Reynolds; former CEO and president of BDM International; executive vice president of Washington operations of TRW

43. Elliot Abrams -- former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist

44. Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist

45. Jack Abramoff -- entertained USG "terrorist" patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist; ardent Zionist

46. Jeb Bush -- Florida governor on 9-11; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11; brother of George Bush; PNAC member; guilty of election fraud in 2000

47. Rudolph Giuliani -- mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as "hero" for his "gutsy" leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel

48. Bernard Kerik -- NYC Police Chief on 9-11; "sidekick" of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition "war games" called Operation Code Angel

49. Lewis Eisenberg -- chairman Port Authority of New York and New Jersey on 9-11; authorized transfer of WTC leases to Silverstein and Lowy just weeks before 9-11; later appointed chairman of Republican National Committee; Zionist

50. Eliot Spitzer -- New York Attorney General on 9-11; barred his top aide, Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell, from testifying to Congress on Able Danger; threw out Karl Schwarz's 9-11 synopsis

51. Richard Holbrooke -- former US ambassador to UN; CFR member; co-chaired "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism" in which the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) was promoted

52. John Deutch -- former Undersecretary of War, director of CIA; co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow, Ashton Carter; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America; MIT professor; grandson of Yonah Fischer, Antwerp diamond merchant who ran Zionist Federation of Belgium

53. Ashton Carter -- co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow and Deutch; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America

54. Michael Ledeen -- became "anti-terrorism" advisor to Secretary of State, Al Haig in 1981; contacts with mullahs in Iran-Contra affair; alleged ties to Italian fascist P2 Masonic Lodge; contacts with Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff; top NeoCon(vict) advisor to Bush and Karl Rove; member AEI (American Enterprise Institute); wrote book extolling fascism

55. Abdussattar Shaikh -- FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring "terrorist" patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft

56. Abdullah Noman -- worked for the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; filed 10-15 visas for the patsy 9-11 "hijackers" in the Visa Express Program

57. Daniel Lewin -- officer in elite, secret unit of Israeli military called "Sayeret Matkal"; orchestrated activities of Mossad agents in USA before 9-11; was allegedly stabbed or "shot" by highjacker Satam al-Suqami before AA flight 11 crashed into the WTC

58. Dominic Suter -- Mossad agent; his front company, Urban Moving Systems, employed the five Mossad agents caught celebrating in New York on 9-11

59. Sivan Kurzberg -- driver of van belonging to the celebrating Israelis; when stopped by police on 9-11, he said "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem"

60. John Gross -- one of the lead engineers for the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; denies existence of molten steel at the WTC

61. Theresa McAllister -- edited the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

62. Ronald Hamburger -- structural engineer and Senior Principal at Simpson Gumpertz and Heger consulting engineers in San Francisco; was a principal author of FEMA's initial report on the collapse of the twin towers; later a key participant in the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

63. William Baker -- member of FEMA Probe Team; partner with Skidmore, Owings, Merrill; contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

64. Harold Nelson -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

65. Ramon Gilsanz -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

66. Shankar Nair -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; quoted in Chicago Tribune, September 19, 2001 that "Already there is near-consensus as to the sequence of events that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center"

67. Gene Corley -- led FEMA/ASCE WTC collapse "investigation"; was the principle investigator for ASCE and FEMA of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City

68. Paul Mlakar -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

69. Mete Sozen -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

70. Charles Thornton -- partner of Richard Tomasetti; told Karl Koch, whose company erected the WTC steel, "Karl, we all know what caused the collapse"; part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

71. Richard Tomasetti -- partner of Charles Thornton; reportedly behind the unprecedented and widely criticized decision to destroy most of the WTC steel evidence

72. Victor Ganzi -- president and CEO of Hearst Corporation since June 1, 2002; the Hearst publication, Popular Mechanics, has repeatedly tried to debunk the truth of 9-11

73. Benjamin Chertoff -- 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior "researcher" for Popular Mechanics' hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement

74. Kevin Delaney -- FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center who destroyed controllers' tapes of 9-11

75. Marvin Bush -- brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 million to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer

76. Wirt Walker -- cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11

77. Larry Silverstein -- he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to "pulling" WTC 7; Zionist

78. Frank Lowy -- he and partner Larry Silverstein obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; came to Palestine in 1945 from Hungarian to fight as Golani commando in Israeli "War of Independence"; Australia's second richest person; in May 2007, investigated by Israeli police for corruption scandal involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert; Zionist

79. David Rockefeller -- vice director of the Council on Foreign Relations (1949-1985), vice president (1950-1970), and chairman (1970-1985); as chairman of the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Association (1958 to 1975) was primary builder of WTC complex; founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission; president or CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank, 1961 to 1981; 9-11 was the anniversary of 1973 CIA-sponsored coup plotted by David Rockefeller's cabal and overseen by Nelson's prot

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> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>

> http://www.whodidit.org

>

> Tuesday, September 25, 2007

>

> Note: In an effort to reclaim the meaning of certain highly-charged words, the word "defense" is replaced by the word "war" in all USG department names, position titles, and policy boards; for instance, "Secretary of Defense" is retitled "Secretary of War" to more accurately reflect the true nature of the position.

>

> 1. George W. Bush -- eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot

>

> 2. Dick Cheney -- former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several "war games"; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities

>

> 3. Donald Rumsfeld -- former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said "when that missile hit the Pentagon"

>

> 4. Paul Wolfowitz -- Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal

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> 5. Richard Perle -- former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan's ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed "Prince of Darkness"

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> 6. Douglas Feith -- effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9-11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member

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> 7. Dov Zakheim -- Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9-10-01; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind

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> 8. George Tenet -- director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the "Medal of Freedom" by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be "dual citizen" of US and Israel

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> 9. Robert Mueller -- FBI director on 9-11; under his "leadership" FBI field agents' warnings of an imminent attack were stifled

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> 10. Thomas Pickard -- took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Richard Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief; John O'Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard

>

> 11. Dale Watson -- former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents' warnings including an "urgent cable" from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi

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> 12. Dave Frasca -- FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating "terrorist" patsies in CIA-operated flight schools

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> 13. Marion "Spike" Bowman -- FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress

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> 14. John Ashcroft -- Attorney General on 9-11; protected "terrorist" patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001

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> 15. Michael Chertoff -- Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist; likely Mossad agent

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> 16. Michael Mukasey -- federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein's insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five dancing Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General; radical Zionist of Russian Jewish parentage; "dual citizen" of US and Israel

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> 17. Ted Olson -- Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)

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> 18. Colin Powell -- Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre

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> 19. Condi Rice -- National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath

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> 20. Tommy Thompson -- Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01

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> 21. Jerome Hauer -- managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O'Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani's Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000

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> 22. Porter Goss -- former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after "hookergate"

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> 23. Bob Graham -- former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004

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> 24. Marc Grossman -- Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel

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> 25. Richard Armitage -- former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan's ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11

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> 26. Philip Zelikow -- led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State; "dual citizen" of US and Israel

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> 27. Ari Fleischer -- White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics

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> 28. Andrew Card -- Bush's Chief of Staff on 9-11; was with Bush at Booker Elementary School in Florida on 9-11; claims to have whispered to Bush, "A second plane hit the second tower, America is under attack"

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> 29. Karl Rove -- Bush's top strategist, known as "Bush's Brian"; America's Joseph Goebbels; was behind the campaign to oust Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question Bush's role in 9-11; in June 2005, said, "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 in the attacks and prepared for war, liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers"

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> 30. Richard Meyers -- in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

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> 31. Ralph Eberhardt -- NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military

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> 32. Larry Arnold -- NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA

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> 33. Eric Findley -- Canadian Air Force Major General; acting commander of NORAD on 9-11

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> 34. Montague Winfield -- Major General in charge of Pentagon war room on 9-10-01, the evening of September 10th he requested a rookie to stand in for him on 9-11

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> 35. Richard Mies -- former Admiral; ran Global Guardian "war game" on 9-11 out of US Strategic Command (Stratcom) at Offutt Air Force Base; now CEO of Hicks & Associates, a "strategic consultant" to the USG dealing in "military transformation"

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> 36. Henry Shelton -- Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11; supported formation of Able Danger

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> 37. Peter Schoomaker -- US Army Chief of Staff; former SOCOM (Special Operations Command) chief; ran Able Danger

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> 38. Geoffrey Lambert -- Major General; SOCOM (Special Operations Command) Intel Chief; made Able Danger, the program that tracked patsy "terrorists", off limits to FBI

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> 39. John Brinkerhoff -- retired US Army Colonel who was a career senior executive in the Office of Secretary of War; from 1981 to 1983, FEMA associate director for national preparedness where he developed plan for martial law; claims intentions of Posse Comitatus are "misunderstood and misapplied", that USG has "full and absolute authority" to use troops to quell American uprising; after 9-11, joined Anser Institute for Homeland Security and wrote "talking points"

supporting revised "national security initiatives" that would allow imposition of martial law

>

> 40. John Lehman -- Reagan's Navy Secretary from 1981 till 1987; claims US is in religious war against "violent, Islamic Fundamentalism"; member 9-11 Omission Commission; PNAC member

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> 41. Tony Gentry -- Army Intelligence and Security Command General Counsel; ordered 2.5 terrabytes of Able Danger data destroyed

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> 42. Philip Odeen -- as director of Program Analysis for the National Security Council, provided staff support to Henry Kissinger from 1971 to 1973; served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of War in Systems Analysis; named to chair the National War Panel in 1997; former president of Reynolds and Reynolds; former CEO and president of BDM International; executive vice president of Washington operations of TRW

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> 43. Elliot Abrams -- former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist

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> 44. Lewis "Scooter" Libby -- former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame; "dual citizen" of US and Israel; Zionist

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> 45. Jack Abramoff -- entertained USG "terrorist" patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist; ardent Zionist

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> 46. Jeb Bush -- Florida governor on 9-11; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11; brother of George Bush; PNAC member; guilty of election fraud in 2000

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> 47. Rudolph Giuliani -- mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as "hero" for his "gutsy" leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel

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> 48. Bernard Kerik -- NYC Police Chief on 9-11; "sidekick" of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition "war games" called Operation Code Angel

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> 49. Lewis Eisenberg -- chairman Port Authority of New York and New Jersey on 9-11; authorized transfer of WTC leases to Silverstein and Lowy just weeks before 9-11; later appointed chairman of Republican National Committee; Zionist

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> 50. Eliot Spitzer -- New York Attorney General on 9-11; barred his top aide, Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell, from testifying to Congress on Able Danger; threw out Karl Schwarz's 9-11 synopsis

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> 51. Richard Holbrooke -- former US ambassador to UN; CFR member; co-chaired "Independent Task Force on America's Response to Terrorism" in which the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) was promoted

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> 52. John Deutch -- former Undersecretary of War, director of CIA; co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow, Ashton Carter; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America; MIT professor; grandson of Yonah Fischer, Antwerp diamond merchant who ran Zionist Federation of Belgium

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> 53. Ashton Carter -- co-authored paper, "Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy" with Zelikow and Deutch; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America

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> 54. Michael Ledeen -- became "anti-terrorism" advisor to Secretary of State, Al Haig in 1981; contacts with mullahs in Iran-Contra affair; alleged ties to Italian fascist P2 Masonic Lodge; contacts with Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff; top NeoCon(vict) advisor to Bush and Karl Rove; member AEI (American Enterprise Institute); wrote book extolling fascism

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> 55. Abdussattar Shaikh -- FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring "terrorist" patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft

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> 56. Abdullah Noman -- worked for the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; filed 10-15 visas for the patsy 9-11 "hijackers" in the Visa Express Program

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> 57. Daniel Lewin -- officer in elite, secret unit of Israeli military called "Sayeret Matkal"; orchestrated activities of Mossad agents in USA before 9-11; was allegedly stabbed or "shot" by highjacker Satam al-Suqami before AA flight 11 crashed into the WTC

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> 58. Dominic Suter -- Mossad agent; his front company, Urban Moving Systems, employed the five Mossad agents caught celebrating in New York on 9-11

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> 59. Sivan Kurzberg -- driver of van belonging to the celebrating Israelis; when stopped by police on 9-11, he said "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem"

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> 60. John Gross -- one of the lead engineers for the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; denies existence of molten steel at the WTC

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> 61. Theresa McAllister -- edited the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

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> 62. Ronald Hamburger -- structural engineer and Senior Principal at Simpson Gumpertz and Heger consulting engineers in San Francisco; was a principal author of FEMA's initial report on the collapse of the twin towers; later a key participant in the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

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> 63. William Baker -- member of FEMA Probe Team; partner with Skidmore, Owings, Merrill; contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

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> 64. Harold Nelson -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

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> 65. Ramon Gilsanz -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

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> 66. Shankar Nair -- contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; quoted in Chicago Tribune, September 19, 2001 that "Already there is near-consensus as to the sequence of events that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center"

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> 67. Gene Corley -- led FEMA/ASCE WTC collapse "investigation"; was the principle investigator for ASCE and FEMA of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City

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> 68. Paul Mlakar -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

>

> 69. Mete Sozen -- part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

>

> 70. Charles Thornton -- partner of Richard Tomasetti; told Karl Koch, whose company erected the WTC steel, "Karl, we all know what caused the collapse"; part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

>

> 71. Richard Tomasetti -- partner of Charles Thornton; reportedly behind the unprecedented and widely criticized decision to destroy most of the WTC steel evidence

>

> 72. Victor Ganzi -- president and CEO of Hearst Corporation since June 1, 2002; the Hearst publication, Popular Mechanics, has repeatedly tried to debunk the truth of 9-11

>

> 73. Benjamin Chertoff -- 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior "researcher" for Popular Mechanics' hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement

>

> 74. Kevin Delaney -- FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center who destroyed controllers' tapes of 9-11

>

> 75. Marvin Bush -- brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 million to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer

>

> 76. Wirt Walker -- cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint-venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11

>

> 77. Larry Silverstein -- he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to "pulling" WTC 7; Zionist

>

> 78. Frank Lowy -- he and partner Larry Silverstein obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; came to Palestine in 1945 from Hungarian to fight as Golani commando in Israeli "War of Independence"; Australia's second richest person; in May 2007, investigated by Israeli police for corruption scandal involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert; Zionist

>

> 79. David Rockefeller -- vice director of the Council on Foreign Relations (1949-1985), vice president (1950-1970), and chairman (1970-1985); as chairman of the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Association (1958 to 1975) was primary builder of WTC complex; founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission; president or CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank, 1961 to 1981; 9-11 was the anniversary of 1973 CIA-sponsored coup plotted by David Rockefeller's cabal and overseen by

Nelson's prot

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>

> http://www.whodidit.org

This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

In article <1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net>, nospam@noway.net

says...

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>

> > 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

> >

> > http://www.whodidit.org

>

> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

>

Of course, that wouldn't fit the kook "scriptures", would it?

BDK

"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>

>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>

>> http://www.whodidit.org

>

> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven. The so-called "confession

video" was a clumsy and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't even

look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the incurious, this was sufficient.

In article <EfydnT__v6UzMhLanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.net>, __@____.___

says...

> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

> news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

> > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

> >

> >> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

> >>

> >> http://www.whodidit.org

> >

> > This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven. The so-called "confession

> video" was a clumsy and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't even

> look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the incurious, this was sufficient.

>

>

>

BWHAHAHAHA! Kook-Koo Kook-Koo Kook-Koo!

What a loon.

I'm glad I can always count on you for a laugh, WMW.

BDK

In article <EfydnT__v6UzMhLanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.net>,

What Me Worry? <__@____.___> wrote:

>"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>

>>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>

>>> http://www.whodidit.org

>>

>> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

>To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

DNA, personal possessions, fingerprints, abandoned rented cars, video

cameras in public places, goodby letters, boarding records, credit

card traces, history of acts prior to 9/11/2001 ....

No evidence here, only you you don't want to see it.

What Me Worry? wrote:

> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

> news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>

>>Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>>103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>

>>>http://www.whodidit.org

>>

>>This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

>

> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven. The so-called "confession

> video"

What about the other confession videos? Are those fake too?

On Jan 18, 11:02 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> What about the other confession videos? Are those fake too?

Kooks only like evidence if they have invented it

"Vandar" <vandar69@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:OfQjj.2243$Sa1.1933@news02.roc.ny...

> What Me Worry? wrote:

>

>> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>> news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>>

>>>Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>>103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>>

>>>>http://www.whodidit.org

>>>

>>>This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>>

>>

>> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven. The so-called "confession

>> video"

>

> What about the other confession videos? Are those fake too?

Cite?

BTW: I removed crosspost to your wacko alt.conspiracy group. Buncha k00ks.

"george" <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote in message

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> On Jan 18, 11:02 am, Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>>

>> What about the other confession videos? Are those fake too?

>

> Kooks only like evidence if they have invented it

When you've brought me some evidence, then we'll see, won't we?

Wacko alt.conspiracy group removed from response.

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

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> In article <EfydnT__v6UzMhLanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.net>,

> What Me Worry? <__@____.___> wrote:

>>"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>>news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>>

>>>> http://www.whodidit.org

>>>

>>> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>>

>>To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>

> DNA

Either the fires were so hot that they caused the buildings to collapse, or

there might have been DNA evidence.

Which is it?

Wacko alt.conspiracy group removed from response.

"BDK" <BDK@magicsteel.com> wrote in message

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> In article <EfydnT__v6UzMhLanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.net>, __@____.___

> says...

>> "Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>> news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>> > Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>> >

>> >> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal

>> >> Co-Conspirators

>> >>

>> >> http://www.whodidit.org

>> >

>> > This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>>

>> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven. The so-called "confession

>> video" was a clumsy and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't

>> even

>> look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the incurious, this was sufficient.

>

> BWHAHAHAHA! Kook-Koo Kook-Koo Kook-Koo!

This is what BDK has degraded himself to, after being repeatedly destroyed

in debates (which he didn't stand a chance of actually winning).

Useless idiot.

Alt.conspiracy removed from response

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:42:39 -0600, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___>

wrote:

>"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>

>>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>

>>> http://www.whodidit.org

>>

>> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

>To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

Only tickets, videos, audio recordings and eyewitness testimony. Other

than that, no, no "hard evidence".

What a smuck.

<evidence@usa.com> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:42:39 -0600, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___>

> wrote:

>

>>"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>>news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>>

>>>> http://www.whodidit.org

>>>

>>> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>>

>>To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>

> Only tickets

Faked. Show me.

> videos

Nope. Show me.

> audio recordings

Easily faked. Did they announce their names one by one? Positive voice ID

by families, coworkers? How do you know the voices belonged to the 19 named

hijackers?

Have you seen this?

http://www.geek.com/voice-cloning/

Note the publishing date.

> eyewitness testimony

All 19 hijackers? Names and positive, corroborated facial ID? Nope.

There are major discrepancies in the eyewitness accounts and fuzzy official

videos:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/210305realidentity.htm

I wonder why the Saudi government told the Bush administration that at least

5 of the 19 suspects were alive and well. At least 2 others have gone to

local police to clear themselves - quite alive, and quite innocent.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers.html

You were saying?

> no "hard evidence".

Exactly.

(Wacko alt.conspiracy group stripped from reply header.)

"BDK" <BDK@magicsteel.com> wrote in message

news:MPG.21f96e53379b3fc098c10c@news.buckeye-express.com...

> In article <1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net>, nospam@noway.net

> says...

>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>

>> > 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>> >

>> > http://www.whodidit.org

>>

>> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>>

>>

>

> Of course, that wouldn't fit the kook "scriptures", would it?

Your kook scriptures have been shredded; but you're too stupid to figure it

out.

ROFL! Nothing more pathetic than a 9/11 shill.

(K00k haven alt.conspiracy stripped from reply header.)

"What Me Think?" <__@____.___> wrote in a message

> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven.

To date, those 19 people are mysteriously still dead. Somehow, they all seem

to have died on 9/11/2001. For some odd reason, they have been praised as

"The 19 Martyrs". It's just an amazing coincidence they just happened to be

on the 4 hijacked 9/11 planes.

> The so-called "confession video" was a clumsy

> and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't

> even look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the

> incurious, this was sufficient.

The so called "obvious fake" is only claimed by imbeciles willing to base

their "judgment" on a few stills and some idiotic claims. Apparently, to the

moronic, this was sufficient.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline

"John P." <JohnP@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:tcmdnYZ0A4dsuw3anZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com...

> "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in a message

>

>> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven.

>

> To date, those 19 people are mysteriously still dead.

Wrong:

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers.html

>> The so-called "confession video" was a clumsy

>> and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't

>> even look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the

>> incurious, this was sufficient.

>

> The so called "obvious fake" is only claimed by imbeciles...

<standard k00k ad hominem mercy-snipped>

The fat actor hired to play Bin Laden in the fake video is not even close.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

Way too fat. Wrong nose, wrong facial structure, much darker complexion,

smiles far too much (Bin Laden was a somber-looking man when speaking.)

Check out the analysis matrix below - very direct, and conclusive - the Nov.

2001 so-called "Confession Video" was a clumsy fake.

Now who would want to fake a confession from Osama bin Laden? Hmmm....

"What Me THINK?" <__@____.___> wrote in a message

>> To date, those 19 people are mysteriously still dead.

> Wrong:

> http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers.html

Nothing in those links supports your erroneous claim. The 19 hijackers are

dead. Their families believe they are dead. They are hailed by some a

martyrs. The entire myth that any of them were alive was based on a single

BBC report indicating some people with the same names were alive. When the

FBI released the photos, the BBC saw it was not the same people. There are

no sane people who think any of the 19 dead hijackers is still alive.

If you disagree, produce a recent photo of any of them.

>> The so called "obvious fake" is only claimed by imbeciles...

> The fat actor hired to play Bin Laden in the fake video is not even close.

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

Bin Laden, played by Bin Laden, looked exactly like Bin Laden.

Suleiman Abu Ghaith and Ayman al-Zawahiri, also seen in the same video, were

played by themselves as well.

> Way too fat. Wrong nose, wrong facial structure, much darker complexion,

> smiles far too much (Bin Laden was a somber-looking man when speaking.)

Interesting. How long have you known him and how much time have you spent

with him? Are you talking about the entire video or just the few stills

presented on a kook site?

> Check out the analysis matrix below - very direct, and conclusive - the

> Nov. 2001 so-called "Confession Video" was a clumsy fake.

Yes... calling it a fake calls for some clumsy analysis. One good move is to

take 3 stills, label then Video #1, Video #2, etc. In 3 of the shots, use a

head shot, straight on. Then offer a 3/4 profile for comparison.

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg5.html#Fake%20bin%20Laden%20confession%20tape?

http://www.911myths.com/html/fake_video.html

http://www.911myths.com/html/responsibility.html

> Now who would want to fake a confession from Osama bin Laden? Hmmm....

Maybe a conspiracy kook who wanted to sell more books and videos.

But then, if you watch the tape, rather than relying on a single still from

a kook web site, you can see it's obviously OBL.

If you actually did some research, you'd know OBL has mentioned his

complicity in the attacks several time, as have several leaders of Al Qaeda.

OBL's video, "The 19 Martyrs" is shown on Al Jazeera...

,,, but then, you've never proven to be educated enough to do research and

view the totality of evidence. You are content to pick and choose bits and

pieces from kook sites and pretend you know all there is to know.

On Jan 17, 11:42 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:

> "Ralph" <nos...@noway.net> wrote in message

>

> news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>

> > Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:

>

> >> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>

> >>http://www.whodidit.org

>

> > This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

> To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

> Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven. The so-called "confession

> video" was a clumsy and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't even

> look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the incurious, this was sufficient.

What i've always, ( from the first tape i heard coming ostensibly from

Osama ) was that they seemed 'off' in so many ways...

Maybe it was translation errors or ... ??? whatever, but they always

seemed so --Obviously-- Faked...???

It's like-- Whoever made them, Never wanted intelligent listeners to

take them seriously...

There are just So Very Many Mysterious Layers to the Whole 911

'Thing'...???

On Jan 17, 12:16 pm, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:

> In article <EfydnT__v6UzMhLanZ2dnUVZ_s6mn...@comcast.net>,

> What Me Worry? <__@____.___> wrote:

>

> >"Ralph" <nos...@noway.net> wrote in message

> >news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

> >> Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:

>

> >>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>

> >>>http://www.whodidit.org

>

> >> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>

> >To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>

> DNA, personal possessions, fingerprints, abandoned rented cars, video

> cameras in public places, goodby letters, boarding records, credit

> card traces, history of acts prior to 9/11/2001 ....

>

> No evidence here, only you you don't want to see it.

Sometimes when there is Too Much Evidence... That makes it kind of

suspicious...???

How can you tell when Too Much is Too Much...???

The Quality...???

The Context of the Evidence when forming a coherent timeline...???

i think that real evidence has a distinct flavor to it, and if it's

too sweet or sour or bitter or if it just smells a little off... Then

maybe you should take a step back and see if anyone else who's eaten

it, is throwing up...

And in the case of 911, there are plenty of people throwing up.

In article <65idndpI5f4fvQ3anZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.net>,

What Me Worry? <__@____.___> wrote:

><evidence@usa.com> wrote in message

>news:5upvo3t3irc0dhtv3m0fjudtpm4tsp7sq2@4ax.com...

>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:42:39 -0600, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>"Ralph" <nospam@noway.net> wrote in message

>>>news:1iaudqa.1i7x92h71hv6iN%nospam@noway.net...

>>>> Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> 103 People Who are Likely or Suspected as 9-11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.whodidit.org

>>>>

>>>> This list left out Osama and 19 hi-jackers.

>>>

>>>To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>>

>> Only tickets

>

>Faked. Show me.

>

>> videos

>

>Nope. Show me.

>

>> audio recordings

>

>Easily faked. Did they announce their names one by one? Positive voice ID

>by families, coworkers? How do you know the voices belonged to the 19 named

>hijackers?

>

>Have you seen this?

>

>http://www.geek.com/voice-cloning/

>

>Note the publishing date.

>

That product tries to speak like a human, something that is still hard

for computers to do.

It doesn't make someone else talk like you, me or, anyone specific.

Any Twoofer conspiracy based on it is bullshit.

In article <LLGdnaPRRO84_Q3anZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com>,

JohnP@nospam.com says...

> "What Me THINK?" <__@____.___> wrote in a message

>

> >> To date, those 19 people are mysteriously still dead.

>

> > Wrong:

> > http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

> > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers.html

>

> Nothing in those links supports your erroneous claim. The 19 hijackers are

> dead. Their families believe they are dead. They are hailed by some a

> martyrs. The entire myth that any of them were alive was based on a single

> BBC report indicating some people with the same names were alive. When the

> FBI released the photos, the BBC saw it was not the same people. There are

> no sane people who think any of the 19 dead hijackers is still alive.

>

> If you disagree, produce a recent photo of any of them.

>

> >> The so called "obvious fake" is only claimed by imbeciles...

>

> > The fat actor hired to play Bin Laden in the fake video is not even close.

> > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

>

> Bin Laden, played by Bin Laden, looked exactly like Bin Laden.

>

> Suleiman Abu Ghaith and Ayman al-Zawahiri, also seen in the same video, were

> played by themselves as well.

>

> > Way too fat. Wrong nose, wrong facial structure, much darker complexion,

> > smiles far too much (Bin Laden was a somber-looking man when speaking.)

>

> Interesting. How long have you known him and how much time have you spent

> with him? Are you talking about the entire video or just the few stills

> presented on a kook site?

>

> > Check out the analysis matrix below - very direct, and conclusive - the

> > Nov. 2001 so-called "Confession Video" was a clumsy fake.

>

> Yes... calling it a fake calls for some clumsy analysis. One good move is to

> take 3 stills, label then Video #1, Video #2, etc. In 3 of the shots, use a

> head shot, straight on. Then offer a 3/4 profile for comparison.

>

> http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg5.html#Fake%20bin%20Laden%20confession%20tape?

>

> http://www.911myths.com/html/fake_video.html

>

> http://www.911myths.com/html/responsibility.html

>

>

> > Now who would want to fake a confession from Osama bin Laden? Hmmm....

>

> Maybe a conspiracy kook who wanted to sell more books and videos.

>

> But then, if you watch the tape, rather than relying on a single still from

> a kook web site, you can see it's obviously OBL.

>

> If you actually did some research, you'd know OBL has mentioned his

> complicity in the attacks several time, as have several leaders of Al Qaeda.

> OBL's video, "The 19 Martyrs" is shown on Al Jazeera...

>

> ,,, but then, you've never proven to be educated enough to do research and

> view the totality of evidence. You are content to pick and choose bits and

> pieces from kook sites and pretend you know all there is to know.

>

>

>

>

I hope these kooktards are never involved in a real life lineup, the

real perp will probably walk, while some poor bastard the cops pulled

out of the drunk tank will get ID'ed as the bad guy.

BDK

What Me Worry? wrote:

> "John P." <JohnP@nospam.com> wrote in message

> news:tcmdnYZ0A4dsuw3anZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@comcast.com...

>

>>"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in a message

>>

>>

>>>To date, there is no hard evidence putting 19 hijackers aboard 4 planes.

>>>Bin Laden's involvement has never been proven.

>>

>>To date, those 19 people are mysteriously still dead.

>

>

> Wrong:

>

> http://www.welfarestate.com/911/

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers.html

>

>

>>> The so-called "confession video" was a clumsy

>>>and obvious fake using a fat Arab actor who didn't

>>>even look like bin Laden. Apparently, to the

>>>incurious, this was sufficient.

>>

>>The so called "obvious fake" is only claimed by imbeciles...

>

> <standard k00k ad hominem mercy-snipped>

>

> The fat actor hired to play Bin Laden in the fake video is not even close.

>

> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html

>

> Way too fat. Wrong nose, wrong facial structure, much darker complexion,

> smiles far too much (Bin Laden was a somber-looking man when speaking.)

> Check out the analysis matrix below - very direct, and conclusive - the Nov.

> 2001 so-called "Confession Video" was a clumsy fake.

>

> Now who would want to fake a confession from Osama bin Laden? Hmmm....

Because it promotes the conspiracy theory agenda.

Would you like to be tried for murder using the "truther" standard of

evidence?