Guest Dr. Jai Maharaj Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers Charged as an adult By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Sunday, February 3, 2008 Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said Sunday. Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey said. Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, and Benjamin, 11. The teen had not been getting along with his father, police said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His father's handgun had been in the house, police said. After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to say that his father was dead. Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac arrest." Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey said. The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, Browning is too young under state law to face the death penalty. Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters that he was charged in the slayings. "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke Kebaugh, 16, said. Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting with his father, but "not about anything violent." The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash along the street. "These people would do anything in the world for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Osiris88 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 On Feb 3, 11:42 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > Charged as an adult > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > Sunday. > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > said. > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > and Benjamin, 11. > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. > > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to > say that his father was dead. > > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac > arrest." > > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey > said. > > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. > > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. > > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, > Browning is too young under state law to face the death > penalty. > > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters > that he was charged in the slayings. > > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke > Kebaugh, 16, said. > > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting > with his father, but "not about anything violent." > > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash > along the street. "These people would do anything in the > world for you -- just incredible people," Thomas said. > > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was > devastated when he learned of the deaths. > > About 50 people -- mostly teenagers -- gathered for a > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. > Some cried. > > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing > a killer was on the loose. > > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, > normal kid." > > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate > law and commercial and corporate law. > > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. > > "He was also a person invested in his family and > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very > much." > > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium > United Methodist Church. > > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of > family that this could happen to." > > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's > younger brothers went to school. > > More at:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead > > Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti > > Hindu Holocaust Museumhttp://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophyhttp://www.hindu.orghttp://www.hindunet.org > > The truth about Islam and Muslimshttp://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for > fair use of copyrighted works. > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > copyright owner. That doesn't make him a gun nut, it shows he was disturbed. By calling him a gun nut you are suggesting that if guns were illegal he would not be disturbed, and that he wouldn't be able to kill with a knife or some other object. You might as well suggest we shouldn't have a military because a military can be misused. Same with cars or ballpoint pens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HarryNadds Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 On Feb 4, 12:42 am, use...@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > Charged as an adult > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > Sunday. > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > said. > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > and Benjamin, 11. > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. > > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to > say that his father was dead. > > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac > arrest." > > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey > said. > > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. > > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. > > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, > Browning is too young under state law to face the death > penalty. > > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters > that he was charged in the slayings. > > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke > Kebaugh, 16, said. > > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting > with his father, but "not about anything violent." > > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash > along the street. "These people would do anything in the > world for you -- just incredible people," Thomas said. > > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was > devastated when he learned of the deaths. > > About 50 people -- mostly teenagers -- gathered for a > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. > Some cried. > > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing > a killer was on the loose. > > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, > normal kid." > > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate > law and commercial and corporate law. > > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. > > "He was also a person invested in his family and > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very > much." > > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium > United Methodist Church. > > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of > family that this could happen to." > > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's > younger brothers went to school. > > More at:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead > > Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti > > Hindu Holocaust Museumhttp://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophyhttp://www.hindu.orghttp://www.hindunet.org > > The truth about Islam and Muslimshttp://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for > fair use of copyrighted works. > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > copyright owner. Would you feel better if he'd used a hatchet or baseball bat?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wayne Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > Charged as an adult > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > Sunday. > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > said. > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > and Benjamin, 11. > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > <snip> A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his father's handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." ? It sounds like he was a "nut". With no gun available what would he have done? Who knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, machete...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest harmony Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 there is a very very very ..... fine line - limit ---> zero -between a proud gun owner of today turning into a gun nut tommorrow. <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > Charged as an adult > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > Sunday. > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > said. > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > and Benjamin, 11. > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. > > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to > say that his father was dead. > > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac > arrest." > > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey > said. > > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. > > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. > > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, > Browning is too young under state law to face the death > penalty. > > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters > that he was charged in the slayings. > > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke > Kebaugh, 16, said. > > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting > with his father, but "not about anything violent." > > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash > along the street. "These people would do anything in the > world for you - just incredible people," Thomas said. > > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was > devastated when he learned of the deaths. > > About 50 people - mostly teenagers - gathered for a > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. > Some cried. > > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing > a killer was on the loose. > > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, > normal kid." > > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate > law and commercial and corporate law. > > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. > > "He was also a person invested in his family and > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very > much." > > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium > United Methodist Church. > > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of > family that this could happen to." > > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's > younger brothers went to school. > > More at: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead > > Jai Maharaj > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 > http://www.mantra.com/jai > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti > > Hindu Holocaust Museum > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy > http://www.hindu.org > http://www.hindunet.org > > The truth about Islam and Muslims > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the > educational > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may > not > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for > fair use of copyrighted works. > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, > current > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others > are > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the > article. > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with > Title > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the > included > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more > information > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 The "other method" routine is so old. It was a gun. Live with it, and help do something about it. "Osiris88" <indexai@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ec67cbb8-a7d8-4100-ab26-4e9875e9de7d@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 3, 11:42 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. > Jai Maharaj) wrote: > > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > > > Charged as an adult > > > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > > Sunday. > > > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > > said. > > > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > > and Benjamin, 11. > > > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > > > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near > > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. > > > > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. > > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to > > say that his father was dead. > > > > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- > > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out > > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging > > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac > > arrest." > > > > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor > > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs > > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey > > said. > > > > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in > > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing > > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore > > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. > > > > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. > > > > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, > > Browning is too young under state law to face the death > > penalty. > > > > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house > > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters > > that he was charged in the slayings. > > > > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke > > Kebaugh, 16, said. > > > > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting > > with his father, but "not about anything violent." > > > > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor > > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash > > along the street. "These people would do anything in the > > world for you -- just incredible people," Thomas said. > > > > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss > > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been > > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was > > devastated when he learned of the deaths. > > > > About 50 people -- mostly teenagers -- gathered for a > > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday > > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. > > Some cried. > > > > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with > > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He > > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing > > a killer was on the loose. > > > > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, > > normal kid." > > > > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, > > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate > > law and commercial and corporate law. > > > > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. > > > > "He was also a person invested in his family and > > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout > > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John > > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very > > much." > > > > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium > > United Methodist Church. > > > > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's > > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was > > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of > > family that this could happen to." > > > > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with > > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county > > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's > > younger brothers went to school. > > > > More at:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead > > > > Jai Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.c om/jyotish > > Om Shanti > > > > Hindu Holocaust Museumhttp://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophyhttp://www.hindu.orghttp://www.hindunet.org > > > > The truth about Islam and Muslimshttp://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > > > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational > > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not > > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the > > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for > > fair use of copyrighted works. > > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, > > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current > > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. > > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are > > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of > > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright > > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the > > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, > > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed > > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as > > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title > > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without > > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included > > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by > > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information > > go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml > > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of > > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > > copyright owner. > > That doesn't make him a gun nut, it shows he was disturbed. By > calling him a gun nut you are suggesting that if guns were illegal he > would not be disturbed, and that he wouldn't be able to kill with a > knife or some other object. You might as well suggest we shouldn't > have a military because a military can be misused. Same with cars or > ballpoint pens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 He used a gun. Get over it. "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... > > <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in > message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > > > Charged as an adult > > > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > > Sunday. > > > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > > said. > > > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > > and Benjamin, 11. > > > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > > <snip> > A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his father's > handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." ? It sounds like > he was a "nut". With no gun available what would he have done? Who > knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, machete...? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frank Arthur Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... > > <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> > wrote in message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... >> Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers >> >> Charged as an adult >> >> By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer >> THE ASSOCIATED PRESS >> Sunday, February 3, 2008 >> >> Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his >> parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent >> more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and >> calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said >> Sunday. >> >> Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later >> charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the >> slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey >> said. >> >> Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- >> degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, >> 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, >> and Benjamin, 11. >> >> The teen had not been getting along with his father, police >> said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other >> family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His >> father's handgun had been in the house, police said. >> > <snip> > A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his > father's handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." > ? It sounds like he was a "nut". With no gun available what would > he have done? Who knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, > machete...? Well the brilliant father who bought & owned a gun to feel safe in the house. How well did it work for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Great point. Let's hear that pro-gun mantra of how gun owners keep people from their weapons. Really worked here. "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message news:OQGpj.17947$1f.6897@bignews9.bellsouth.net... > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... > > > > <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> > > wrote in message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > >> Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > >> > >> Charged as an adult > >> > >> By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > >> THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > >> Sunday, February 3, 2008 > >> > >> Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > >> parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > >> more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > >> calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > >> Sunday. > >> > >> Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > >> charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > >> slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > >> said. > >> > >> Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > >> degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > >> 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > >> and Benjamin, 11. > >> > >> The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > >> said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > >> family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > >> father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > >> > > <snip> > > A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his > > father's handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." > > ? It sounds like he was a "nut". With no gun available what would > > he have done? Who knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, > > machete...? > Well the brilliant father who bought & owned a gun to feel safe in the > house. > How well did it work for him? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wayne Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message news:OQGpj.17947$1f.6897@bignews9.bellsouth.net... > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... >> >> <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in >> message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... >>> Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers >>> >>> Charged as an adult >>> >>> By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer >>> THE ASSOCIATED PRESS >>> Sunday, February 3, 2008 >>> >>> Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his >>> parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent >>> more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and >>> calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said >>> Sunday. >>> >>> Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later >>> charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the >>> slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey >>> said. >>> >>> Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- >>> degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, >>> 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, >>> and Benjamin, 11. >>> >>> The teen had not been getting along with his father, police >>> said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other >>> family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His >>> father's handgun had been in the house, police said. >>> >> <snip> >> A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his father's >> handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." ? It sounds >> like he was a "nut". With no gun available what would he have done? Who >> knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, machete...? > Well the brilliant father who bought & owned a gun to feel safe in the > house. > How well did it work for him? Very good......don't like the way the conversation is going....change the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 You backing off? "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message news:l%Gpj.19864$Ou1.11538@trnddc07... > > "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message > news:OQGpj.17947$1f.6897@bignews9.bellsouth.net... > > > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... > >> > >> <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in > >> message news:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > >>> Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > >>> > >>> Charged as an adult > >>> > >>> By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > >>> THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > >>> Sunday, February 3, 2008 > >>> > >>> Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > >>> parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > >>> more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > >>> calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > >>> Sunday. > >>> > >>> Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > >>> charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > >>> slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > >>> said. > >>> > >>> Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > >>> degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > >>> 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > >>> and Benjamin, 11. > >>> > >>> The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > >>> said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > >>> family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > >>> father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > >>> > >> <snip> > >> A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his father's > >> handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." ? It sounds > >> like he was a "nut". With no gun available what would he have done? Who > >> knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, machete...? > > Well the brilliant father who bought & owned a gun to feel safe in the > > house. > > How well did it work for him? > Very good......don't like the way the conversation is going....change the > subject. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KerryHatch Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 robw wrote: > Great point. > > Let's hear that pro-gun mantra of how gun owners keep people from their > weapons. The same way that your parents kept you from being a retard. > Really worked here. Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Another gun story to stuff down your throat. We'll be nice, you like mustard or catsup?? "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7413e$0$25031$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw wrote: > > > Great point. > > > > Let's hear that pro-gun mantra of how gun owners keep people from their > > weapons. > > The same way that your parents kept you from being a retard. > > > > Really worked here. > > Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KerryHatch Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 robw, the top posting retard wrote: > Another gun story to stuff down your throat. What are you talking about? It is obvious that the 15 year old was wired wrong, like you. His parents were of no help to mental development(like yours), and that brat desided to kill everyone... like YOUR children would do to you, IF you were find a retarded woman silly enough to procreat with. > > We'll be nice, you like mustard or catsup?? What the hell is that supposed to mean? > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > news:47a7413e$0$25031$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >>robw wrote: >> >> >>>Great point. >>> >>>Let's hear that pro-gun mantra of how gun owners keep people from their >>>weapons. >> >>The same way that your parents kept you from being a retard. >> >> >> >>>Really worked here. >> >>Nope. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Oh, so it Takes A Village to own a gun???? So, you're all for background checks on not only the buyer but people they come in contact with???? It's what you said. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a74bff$0$25049$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw, the top posting retard wrote: > > > Another gun story to stuff down your throat. > > What are you talking about? > It is obvious that the 15 year old was wired wrong, like you. > His parents were of no help to mental development(like yours), and > that brat desided to kill everyone... like YOUR children would do to > you, IF you were find a retarded woman silly enough to procreat with. > > > > > > > We'll be nice, you like mustard or catsup?? > > > What the hell is that supposed to mean? > > > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > > news:47a7413e$0$25031$607ed4bc@cv.net... > > > >>robw wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Great point. > >>> > >>>Let's hear that pro-gun mantra of how gun owners keep people from their > >>>weapons. > >> > >>The same way that your parents kept you from being a retard. > >> > >> > >> > >>>Really worked here. > >> > >>Nope. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KerryHatch Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 robw wrote: > Oh, so it Takes A Village to own a gun???? What? > So, you're all for background checks on not only the buyer but people they > come in contact with???? > > It's what you said. Try again, when you sober up. I said nothing of the kind, you top posting retard. If anything, YOU should be checked out before you become a parent, as you are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYY to stupid to raise a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I could point to your post but you snipped it. Why? Oh, and by the way asshole, I'm 55. "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message news:47a7580b$0$25062$607ed4bc@cv.net... > robw wrote: > > > Oh, so it Takes A Village to own a gun???? > > What? > > > > So, you're all for background checks on not only the buyer but people they > > come in contact with???? > > > > It's what you said. > > > Try again, when you sober up. > > I said nothing of the kind, you top posting retard. > > If anything, YOU should be checked out before you become a parent, as > you are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYY to stupid to raise a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Osiris88 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 On Feb 4, 9:03 am, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote: > The "other method" routine is so old. > > It was a gun. > Live with it, and help do something about it. > I'm in favor of background checks and training. Training should be mandatory. You have to go to school to drive, so should you for owning a weapon. > "Osiris88" <inde...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:ec67cbb8-a7d8-4100-ab26-4e9875e9de7d@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > > On Feb 3, 11:42 pm, use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. > > Jai Maharaj) wrote: > > > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > > > Charged as an adult > > > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > > > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > > > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > > > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > > > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > > > Sunday. > > > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > > > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > > > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > > > said. > > > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > > > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > > > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > > > and Benjamin, 11. > > > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > > > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > > > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > > > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > > > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near > > > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. > > > > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. > > > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to > > > say that his father was dead. > > > > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- > > > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out > > > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging > > > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac > > > arrest." > > > > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor > > > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs > > > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey > > > said. > > > > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in > > > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing > > > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore > > > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. > > > > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. > > > > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, > > > Browning is too young under state law to face the death > > > penalty. > > > > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house > > > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters > > > that he was charged in the slayings. > > > > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke > > > Kebaugh, 16, said. > > > > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting > > > with his father, but "not about anything violent." > > > > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor > > > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash > > > along the street. "These people would do anything in the > > > world for you -- just incredible people," Thomas said. > > > > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss > > > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been > > > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was > > > devastated when he learned of the deaths. > > > > About 50 people -- mostly teenagers -- gathered for a > > > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday > > > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. > > > Some cried. > > > > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with > > > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He > > > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing > > > a killer was on the loose. > > > > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, > > > normal kid." > > > > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, > > > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate > > > law and commercial and corporate law. > > > > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. > > > > "He was also a person invested in his family and > > > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout > > > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John > > > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very > > > much." > > > > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium > > > United Methodist Church. > > > > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's > > > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was > > > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of > > > family that this could happen to." > > > > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with > > > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county > > > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's > > > younger brothers went to school. > > > > More at:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead > > > > Jai > > Maharajhttp://tinyurl.com/24fq83http://www.mantra.com/jaihttp://www.mantra.c > om/jyotish> > Om Shanti > > > > Hindu Holocaust Museumhttp://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and > > philosophyhttp://www.hindu.orghttp://www.hindunet.org > > > > The truth about Islam and > > Muslimshttp://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > > > > > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the > educational > > > purposes of research and open discussion. 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Guest Osiris88 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 On Feb 4, 9:04 am, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote: > He used a gun. > > Get over it. > What is your point when you say this? How does the use of a gun change the fact that he is disturbed in some way? The gun made him do it? The gun jumped into his hands and then used mind control and forced him to shoot? The object is not the issue, kid. Get over it, yourself. > "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... > > > > > <use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in > > messagenews:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > > > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > > > Charged as an adult > > > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > > > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > > > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > > > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > > > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > > > Sunday. > > > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > > > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > > > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > > > said. > > > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > > > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > > > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > > > and Benjamin, 11. > > > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > > > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > > > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > > > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > > <snip> > > A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his father's > > handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." ? It sounds > like > > he was a "nut". With no gun available what would he have done? Who > > knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, machete...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Did the cretin kill people with a popsicle stick? "Osiris88" <indexai@gmail.com> wrote in message news:066505d3-7265-4830-a78d-bb3e8c015014@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 4, 9:04 am, "robw" <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote: > > He used a gun. > > > > Get over it. > > > > What is your point when you say this? How does the use of a gun > change the fact that he is disturbed in some way? The gun made him do > it? The gun jumped into his hands and then used mind control and > forced him to shoot? The object is not the issue, kid. Get over it, > yourself. > > > "Wayne" <mygarbage...@verizon.net> wrote in message > > > > news:hEGpj.19861$Ou1.17507@trnddc07... > > > > > > > > > <use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in > > > messagenews:20080203TSl83ZLBMV44z49Snl1qkb9@W2MHF... > > > > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > > > > > Charged as an adult > > > > > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > > > > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > > > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > > > > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > > > > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > > > > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > > > > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > > > > Sunday. > > > > > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > > > > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > > > > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > > > > said. > > > > > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > > > > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > > > > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > > > > and Benjamin, 11. > > > > > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > > > > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > > > > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > > > > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > > > > <snip> > > > A truly tragic event. That being said.....since he used his father's > > > handgun......why is the subject "15-YR-OLD GUN NUT......." ? It sounds > > like > > > he was a "nut". With no gun available what would he have done? Who > > > knows......a firebomb, baseball bat, knife, machete...? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RD (The Sandman) Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in news:sfydncFTtpWwxzranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com: > I could point to your post but you snipped it. > > Why? > > Oh, and by the way asshole, I'm 55. That's not much of an IQ. I wouldn't be bragging about it. > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > news:47a7580b$0$25062$607ed4bc@cv.net... >> robw wrote: >> >> > Oh, so it Takes A Village to own a gun???? >> >> What? >> >> >> > So, you're all for background checks on not only the buyer but people > they >> > come in contact with???? >> > >> > It's what you said. >> >> >> Try again, when you sober up. >> >> I said nothing of the kind, you top posting retard. >> >> If anything, YOU should be checked out before you become a parent, as >> you are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYY to stupid to raise a child. > > > -- RD (The Sandman) War is absolute hell.....but to give in to terrorism is much, much worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest robw Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Wow, you thought that post was witty? ( I mean, you used that "cute" little symbol at the end. you dot your "i's" with hearts? keep a roll of smiley face stickers at your disposal??) No wonder you need guns. "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A3A920DE73AASandman@216.196.97.136... > "robw" <noddy093@comcast.net> wrote in > news:sfydncFTtpWwxzranZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com: > > > I could point to your post but you snipped it. > > > > Why? > > > > Oh, and by the way asshole, I'm 55. > > That's not much of an IQ. I wouldn't be bragging about it. > > > "KerryHatch" <OingoBoingo@Bass.gov.> wrote in message > > news:47a7580b$0$25062$607ed4bc@cv.net... > >> robw wrote: > >> > >> > Oh, so it Takes A Village to own a gun???? > >> > >> What? > >> > >> > >> > So, you're all for background checks on not only the buyer but > people > > they > >> > come in contact with???? > >> > > >> > It's what you said. > >> > >> > >> Try again, when you sober up. > >> > >> I said nothing of the kind, you top posting retard. > >> > >> If anything, YOU should be checked out before you become a parent, as > >> you are WAAAAAAAAAYYYYY to stupid to raise a child. > > > > > > > > > > -- > RD (The Sandman) > > War is absolute hell.....but to give in > to terrorism is much, much worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Jai Maharaj Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Airline paseengers are profiled at the airport and potential terrorists detained -- similarly, residents in every community must be profiled and potential terrorists, including gun nuts, detained. Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 http://www.mantra.com/jai http://www.mantra.com/jyotish Om Shanti In article <47a736ed$0$4053$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>, "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted: > > there is a very very very ..... fine line - limit ---> zero -between a > proud gun owner of today turning into a gun nut tommorrow. > > > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted: > > > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers > > > > Charged as an adult > > > > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer > > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS > > Sunday, February 3, 2008 > > > > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his > > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent > > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and > > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said > > Sunday. > > > > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later > > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the > > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey > > said. > > > > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- > > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, > > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, > > and Benjamin, 11. > > > > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police > > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other > > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His > > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. > > > > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near > > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. > > > > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. > > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to > > say that his father was dead. > > > > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- > > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out > > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging > > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac > > arrest." > > > > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor > > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs > > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey > > said. > > > > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in > > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing > > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore > > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. > > > > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. > > > > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, > > Browning is too young under state law to face the death > > penalty. > > > > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house > > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters > > that he was charged in the slayings. > > > > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke > > Kebaugh, 16, said. > > > > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting > > with his father, but "not about anything violent." > > > > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor > > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash > > along the street. "These people would do anything in the > > world for you - just incredible people," Thomas said. > > > > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss > > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been > > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was > > devastated when he learned of the deaths. > > > > About 50 people - mostly teenagers - gathered for a > > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday > > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. > > Some cried. > > > > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with > > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He > > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing > > a killer was on the loose. > > > > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, > > normal kid." > > > > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, > > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate > > law and commercial and corporate law. > > > > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. > > > > "He was also a person invested in his family and > > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout > > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John > > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very > > much." > > > > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium > > United Methodist Church. > > > > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's > > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was > > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of > > family that this could happen to." > > > > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with > > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county > > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's > > younger brothers went to school. > > > > More at: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead > > > > Jai Maharaj > > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 > > http://www.mantra.com/jai > > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > > Om Shanti > > > > Hindu Holocaust Museum > > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy > > http://www.hindu.org > > http://www.hindunet.org > > > > The truth about Islam and Muslims > > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > > > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS > > > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the > > educational > > purposes of research and open discussion. 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Guest harmony Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 dr. jai maharaj ji, if you run for office, we all will vote for you. <usenet@mantra.com and/or http://www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote in message news:20080204TAmfWh1ICjZImSoOo9fBFXI@JfQK6... > Airline paseengers are profiled at the airport and potential > terrorists detained -- similarly, residents in every community > must be profiled and potential terrorists, including gun nuts, > detained. > > Jai Maharaj > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 > http://www.mantra.com/jai > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish > Om Shanti > > In article <47a736ed$0$4053$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net>, > "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted: >> >> there is a very very very ..... fine line - limit ---> zero -between a >> proud gun owner of today turning into a gun nut tommorrow. >> >> >> http://www.mantra.com/jyotish (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted: >> >> > Md. boy admits killing parents, brothers >> > >> > Charged as an adult >> > >> > By Kasey Jones, Associated Press Writer >> > THE ASSOCIATED PRESS >> > Sunday, February 3, 2008 >> > >> > Cockeysville, Md. - A 15-year-old boy fatally shot his >> > parents and two younger brothers as they slept, then spent >> > more than 12 hours with friends before returning home and >> > calling 911 to report that his father was dead, police said >> > Sunday. >> > >> > Police went to their suburban Baltimore home and later >> > charged Nicholas Waggoner Browning after he admitted to the >> > slayings, Baltimore County Police spokesman Bill Toohey >> > said. >> > >> > Browning was charged as an adult with four counts of first- >> > degree murder in the slayings of his father, John Browning, >> > 45; his mother Tamara, 44; and his brothers Gregory, 13, >> > and Benjamin, 11. >> > >> > The teen had not been getting along with his father, police >> > said. On Friday night, he went into the house after other >> > family members had gone to sleep and shot each of them. His >> > father's handgun had been in the house, police said. >> > >> > After the slayings, he threw the handgun into bushes near >> > the house, police said. The gun was recovered, Toohey said. >> > >> > When the friends took him back to his house at 5 p.m. >> > Saturday, Browning went into the house and came back out to >> > say that his father was dead. >> > >> > Browning called 911, telling the dispatcher that a "45- >> > year-old male was lying on the couch with blood coming out >> > of his nose. He was not breathing," according to charging >> > documents. Officers were sent on a "call of a cardiac >> > arrest." >> > >> > Police said Browning's father was found in a ground-floor >> > room and his mother and brothers were dead in upstairs >> > bedrooms. There was no sign of a confrontation, Toohey >> > said. >> > >> > The tall, gangly sophomore at Dulaney High School in >> > neighboring Timonium was denied bail; a bail review hearing >> > was scheduled Monday. He was being held at the Baltimore >> > County Detention Center in a special section for juveniles. >> > >> > Toohey said he didn't know if Browning had a lawyer. >> > >> > Even if convicted as an adult of first-degree murder, >> > Browning is too young under state law to face the death >> > penalty. >> > >> > Two of Browning's classmates drove past the family's house >> > Sunday afternoon and wept when they learned from reporters >> > that he was charged in the slayings. >> > >> > "It's hard to believe someone could do this," Brooke >> > Kebaugh, 16, said. >> > >> > Liz Lazlawbach, 17, said Browning complained about fighting >> > with his father, but "not about anything violent." >> > >> > The grounds of the two-story home were neat and neighbor >> > Mike Thomas said the Brownings would even pick up trash >> > along the street. "These people would do anything in the >> > world for you - just incredible people," Thomas said. >> > >> > Neighbors called each other throughout the night to discuss >> > the killings, Thomas said. He said one of his sons had been >> > in Boy Scouts with one of the Brownings' sons and was >> > devastated when he learned of the deaths. >> > >> > About 50 people - mostly teenagers - gathered for a >> > candlelight vigil in front of the Brownings house Sunday >> > night. The crowd stood in silence for about ten minutes. >> > Some cried. >> > >> > John Thibeault said his son Kyle went to school with >> > Benjamin and they were both "traumatized" by the deaths. He >> > said his family locked their doors Saturday night, fearing >> > a killer was on the loose. >> > >> > Thibeault described Nicholas Browning as "just a regular, >> > normal kid." >> > >> > John Browning was a partner in the law firm of Royston, >> > Mueller, McLean & Reid in Towson, focusing on real estate >> > law and commercial and corporate law. >> > >> > The partners said Browning was an accomplished lawyer. >> > >> > "He was also a person invested in his family and >> > community," the partners said. "He led his local scout >> > troop. He was a leader at his church. In short, John >> > Browning was a great man. We will all miss him very, very >> > much." >> > >> > The Brownings' Boy Scout unit, Troop 328, meets at Timonium >> > United Methodist Church. >> > >> > The Rev. Frances Dailey said Sunday that the troop's >> > leaders did not want to talk. He said John Browning was >> > "beloved and well revered. I'm told this is not the kind of >> > family that this could happen to." >> > >> > Counselors were to be available Monday to meet with >> > students at Dulaney High, said Charles Herndon, a county >> > school spokesman. He declined to say where Browning's >> > younger brothers went to school. >> > >> > More at: >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_re_us/four_dead >> > >> > Jai Maharaj >> > http://tinyurl.com/24fq83 >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai >> > http://www.mantra.com/jyotish >> > Om Shanti >> > >> > Hindu Holocaust Museum >> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust >> > >> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy >> > http://www.hindu.org >> > http://www.hindunet.org >> > >> > The truth about Islam and Muslims >> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate >> > >> > DISCLAIMER AND CONDITIONS >> > >> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the >> > educational >> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may >> > not >> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of >> > the >> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption >> > for >> > fair use of copyrighted works. >> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, >> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, >> > current >> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. >> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others >> > are >> > not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the >> > article. >> > >> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use >> > of >> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright >> > owner. 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Guest KerryHatch Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote: > Airline paseengers are profiled at the airport and potential > terrorists detained Good! That keeps YOU from traveling. When did you say you were going to make an attempt to go to Austin, Texas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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