Guest Sound of Trumpet Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923041/posts Pro-Abortion Law Firm: 30 States Would Likely Ban Abortion if Roe Reversed Life News ^ | 11/8/07 | Steven Ertelt Posted on 11/08/2007 3:06:38 PM PST by wagglebee Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-abortion law firm has released a new report saying thirty states are likely to ban most or all abortions if the Supreme Court reverses the Roe v. Wade decision. The firm also conducted a poll finding many Americans are unaware of pro-life efforts to get abortion bans in place for when the high court overturns the case. The New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights says Roe is under attack like never before with pro-life activists using new strategies at both the state and federal level. It's most recent version of its report "What if Roe Fell?" finds that pro-life groups are advocating both immediate bans on abortion as well as trigger laws that would make abortions illegal if Roe is reversed. "Across the country, a dangerous, but largely undetected movement is laying the foundation for a post-Roe world in which abortion would once again be a crime," Nancy Northup, president of the Center, said in a statement LifeNews.com received. The center says seventeen states have introduced 38 abortion bans or trigger laws in the last three years. Four states, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota and South Dakota have introduced abortion bans and South Dakota's legislature was the only one to approve it (though voters there narrowly rejected the measure afterwards). The pro-abortion law firm also reported that more than two dozen states would likely ban abortion or have trigger laws immediately going into effect after a potential Supreme Court decision overturning the major abortion case. It lists 21 states as most likely to ban abortions in that instance: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia, and Wisconsin. It classifies another 9 states as somewhat likely: Arizona, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania. Meanwhile, the abortion advocacy group hired Lake Research Partners to do a survey about Roe issues. According to the polling data, 63 percent of Americans believe that Roe v. Wade is increasingly vulnerable under the current Supreme Court. Another 60 percent are largely unaware of legislative efforts underway at the state level to ban abortion or put trigger laws in place. And about 58 percent of those polled are not aware of the current laws on abortion in their home state. The survey reached 1,000 registered voters nationwide and it had a 2.7 percent margin of error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SportsBookJunkie Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 On Nov 26, 12:27 pm, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> wrote: > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923041/posts > > Pro-Abortion Law Firm: 30 States Would Likely Ban Abortion if Roe > Reversed > > Life News ^ | 11/8/07 | Steven Ertelt > > Posted on 11/08/2007 3:06:38 PM PST by wagglebee > > Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-abortion law firm has > released a new report saying thirty states are likely to ban most or > all abortions if the Supreme Court reverses the Roe v. Wade decision. > The firm also conducted a poll finding many Americans are unaware of > pro-life efforts to get abortion bans in place for when the high court > overturns the case. > > The New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights says Roe is under > attack like never before with pro-life activists using new strategies > at both the state and federal level. > > It's most recent version of its report "What if Roe Fell?" finds that > pro-life groups are advocating both immediate bans on abortion as well > as trigger laws that would make abortions illegal if Roe is reversed. > > "Across the country, a dangerous, but largely undetected movement is > laying the foundation for a post-Roe world in which abortion would > once again be a crime," Nancy Northup, president of the Center, said > in a statement LifeNews.com received. > > The center says seventeen states have introduced 38 abortion bans or > trigger laws in the last three years. > > Four states, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota and South Dakota > have introduced abortion bans and South Dakota's legislature was the > only one to approve it (though voters there narrowly rejected the > measure afterwards). > > The pro-abortion law firm also reported that more than two dozen > states would likely ban abortion or have trigger laws immediately > going into effect after a potential Supreme Court decision overturning > the major abortion case. > > It lists 21 states as most likely to ban abortions in that instance: > Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, > Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, > Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, > Virginia, and Wisconsin. > > It classifies another 9 states as somewhat likely: Arizona, Georgia, > Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, and > Pennsylvania. > > Meanwhile, the abortion advocacy group hired Lake Research Partners to > do a survey about Roe issues. > > According to the polling data, 63 percent of Americans believe that > Roe v. Wade is increasingly vulnerable under the current Supreme > Court. > > Another 60 percent are largely unaware of legislative efforts underway > at the state level to ban abortion or put trigger laws in place. And > about 58 percent of those polled are not aware of the current laws on > abortion in their home state. > > The survey reached 1,000 registered voters nationwide and it had a 2.7 > percent margin of error. And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion rates go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Old Redneck Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 26, 12:27 pm, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923041/posts > > > Pro-Abortion Law Firm: 30 States Would Likely Ban Abortion if Roe > > Reversed > > > Life News ^ | 11/8/07 | Steven Ertelt > > > Posted on 11/08/2007 3:06:38 PM PST by wagglebee > > > Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-abortion law firm has > > released a new report saying thirty states are likely to ban most or > > all abortions if the Supreme Court reverses the Roe v. Wade decision. > > The firm also conducted a poll finding many Americans are unaware of > > pro-life efforts to get abortion bans in place for when the high court > > overturns the case. > > > The New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights says Roe is under > > attack like never before with pro-life activists using new strategies > > at both the state and federal level. > > > It's most recent version of its report "What if Roe Fell?" finds that > > pro-life groups are advocating both immediate bans on abortion as well > > as trigger laws that would make abortions illegal if Roe is reversed. > > > "Across the country, a dangerous, but largely undetected movement is > > laying the foundation for a post-Roe world in which abortion would > > once again be a crime," Nancy Northup, president of the Center, said > > in a statement LifeNews.com received. > > > The center says seventeen states have introduced 38 abortion bans or > > trigger laws in the last three years. > > > Four states, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota and South Dakota > > have introduced abortion bans and South Dakota's legislature was the > > only one to approve it (though voters there narrowly rejected the > > measure afterwards). > > > The pro-abortion law firm also reported that more than two dozen > > states would likely ban abortion or have trigger laws immediately > > going into effect after a potential Supreme Court decision overturning > > the major abortion case. > > > It lists 21 states as most likely to ban abortions in that instance: > > Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, > > Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, > > Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, > > Virginia, and Wisconsin. > > > It classifies another 9 states as somewhat likely: Arizona, Georgia, > > Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, and > > Pennsylvania. > > > Meanwhile, the abortion advocacy group hired Lake Research Partners to > > do a survey about Roe issues. > > > According to the polling data, 63 percent of Americans believe that > > Roe v. Wade is increasingly vulnerable under the current Supreme > > Court. > > > Another 60 percent are largely unaware of legislative efforts underway > > at the state level to ban abortion or put trigger laws in place. And > > about 58 percent of those polled are not aware of the current laws on > > abortion in their home state. > > > The survey reached 1,000 registered voters nationwide and it had a 2.7 > > percent margin of error. > > And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion > rates go down.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would skyrocket. Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qwerty Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 "Old Redneck" <old_redneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: >> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion >> rates go down.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would > skyrocket. > > Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- > they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, but as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal abortions skyrocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sid9 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Sound of Trumpet wrote: > http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923041/posts > > > > Pro-Abortion Law Firm: 30 States Would Likely Ban Abortion if Roe > Reversed > > > Life News ^ | 11/8/07 | Steven Ertelt > > > Posted on 11/08/2007 3:06:38 PM PST by wagglebee > > > Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-abortion law firm has > released a new report saying thirty states are likely to ban most or > all abortions if the Supreme Court reverses the Roe v. Wade decision. > The firm also conducted a poll finding many Americans are unaware of > pro-life efforts to get abortion bans in place for when the high court > overturns the case. > > The New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights says Roe is under > attack like never before with pro-life activists using new strategies > at both the state and federal level. > > It's most recent version of its report "What if Roe Fell?" finds that > pro-life groups are advocating both immediate bans on abortion as well > as trigger laws that would make abortions illegal if Roe is reversed. > > "Across the country, a dangerous, but largely undetected movement is > laying the foundation for a post-Roe world in which abortion would > once again be a crime," Nancy Northup, president of the Center, said > in a statement LifeNews.com received. > > The center says seventeen states have introduced 38 abortion bans or > trigger laws in the last three years. > > Four states, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota and South Dakota > have introduced abortion bans and South Dakota's legislature was the > only one to approve it (though voters there narrowly rejected the > measure afterwards). > > The pro-abortion law firm also reported that more than two dozen > states would likely ban abortion or have trigger laws immediately > going into effect after a potential Supreme Court decision overturning > the major abortion case. > > It lists 21 states as most likely to ban abortions in that instance: > Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, > Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, > Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, > Virginia, and Wisconsin. > > It classifies another 9 states as somewhat likely: Arizona, Georgia, > Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, and > Pennsylvania. > > Meanwhile, the abortion advocacy group hired Lake Research Partners to > do a survey about Roe issues. > > According to the polling data, 63 percent of Americans believe that > Roe v. Wade is increasingly vulnerable under the current Supreme > Court. > > Another 60 percent are largely unaware of legislative efforts underway > at the state level to ban abortion or put trigger laws in place. And > about 58 percent of those polled are not aware of the current laws on > abortion in their home state. > > The survey reached 1,000 registered voters nationwide and it had a 2.7 > percent margin of error. And...there wouldn't be one less abortion in the United States...only more deaths of young women from unsafe abortions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lord Calvert Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 On Nov 26, 4:01 pm, "qwerty" <nos...@all.noway.com> wrote: > "Old Redneck" <old_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, but as > you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal abortions > skyrocket. That's something the neo-commies have never learned...the more you increase the power of big-government, the more crime you end up having which leads to increasing the power of big-government even further, etc., etc. and you end up with a totalitarian state where you have to get permission from big-government to do anything. Here's an idea. How about we get big-government out of the procreation business (and the marriage business) and let the individuals concerned handle it, like free men and women? Why get incompetent big-government involved in areas where it is not welcome? "A lot of so-called conservatives today don't know what the word means. They think I've turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the religious right. It's not a conservative issue at all." - Senator Barry Goldwater (R- AZ), 1994 Rich Goranson Amherst, NY, USA aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1 EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mark K. Bilbo Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:27:26 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote: > The firm also conducted a poll finding many Americans are unaware of > pro-life efforts to get abortion bans in place for when the high court > overturns the case. And when people become aware, so much for that game... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mark K. Bilbo Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:44:08 -0800, SportsBookJunkie wrote: > And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion > rates go down. It wouldn't be 30. The very article he's yapping about indicates that most people aren't aware of the pro-lie game. Should it become an issue (as in the fantasy that RvW is going to be overturned), things will shake out differently... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ “I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone.” - H. L. Mencken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Knight Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:27:26 -0800 (PST), Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trumpet@hotpop.com> wrote: >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923041/posts > > > >Pro-Abortion Law Firm: 30 States Would Likely Ban Abortion if Roe >Reversed Right... Let's go back to coat hangers and drunk 'professionals' in dark alleys. You're not going to change whither someone wants a kid. You pro-life fuckers could care less if abortion is safe or not. It's still going to happen. Warlord Steve BAAWA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 "qwerty" <nospam@all.noway.com> wrote in message news:2vG2j.71402$YL5.66556@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > "Old Redneck" <old_redneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... >> On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion >>> rates go down. >> Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would >> skyrocket. >> Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- >> they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." > Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, but > as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal abortions > skyrocket. "Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mark Sebree Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 On Nov 27, 9:07 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > "qwerty" <nos...@all.noway.com> wrote in message > > news:2vG2j.71402$YL5.66556@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > > "Old Redneck" <old_redn...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... > >> On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion > >>> rates go down. > >> Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would > >> skyrocket. > >> Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- > >> they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." > > Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, but > > as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal abortions > > skyrocket. > > "Spain's abortion rate has continued to climb, despite the supposed reality > that abortion remains illegal there..."http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/feb/05021110.html > > The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the murder of > a baby. What baby? If there is a baby, then there is no need for an abortion since the birth has already happened. Mark Sebree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnN Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 On Nov 26, 4:24 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:44:08 -0800, SportsBookJunkie wrote: > > And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion > > rates go down. > > It wouldn't be 30. The very article he's yapping about indicates that > most people aren't aware of the pro-lie game. Should it become an issue > (as in the fantasy that RvW is going to be overturned), things will shake > out differently... > > -- > Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 > EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion > ------------------------------------------------------------ > "I believe in only one thing: liberty; but I do not > believe in liberty enough to want to force it upon anyone." > > - H. L. Mencken Since the last thing the anti-abortion political machine wants is to end abortion there will never be any legislation to end abortion. Evidence: none of the states' legislatures listed in SoT's article have passed resolutions instruction their congressional deligations to introduce an anti-abortion constitutional admendment. JohnN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnN Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 On Nov 26, 4:07 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Sound of Trumpet wrote: > >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1923041/posts > > > Pro-Abortion Law Firm: 30 States Would Likely Ban Abortion if Roe > > Reversed > > > Life News ^ | 11/8/07 | Steven Ertelt > > > Posted on 11/08/2007 3:06:38 PM PST by wagglebee > > > Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading pro-abortion law firm has > > released a new report saying thirty states are likely to ban most or > > all abortions if the Supreme Court reverses the Roe v. Wade decision. > > The firm also conducted a poll finding many Americans are unaware of > > pro-life efforts to get abortion bans in place for when the high court > > overturns the case. > > > The New York-based Center for Reproductive Rights says Roe is under > > attack like never before with pro-life activists using new strategies > > at both the state and federal level. > > > It's most recent version of its report "What if Roe Fell?" finds that > > pro-life groups are advocating both immediate bans on abortion as well > > as trigger laws that would make abortions illegal if Roe is reversed. > > > "Across the country, a dangerous, but largely undetected movement is > > laying the foundation for a post-Roe world in which abortion would > > once again be a crime," Nancy Northup, president of the Center, said > > in a statement LifeNews.com received. > > > The center says seventeen states have introduced 38 abortion bans or > > trigger laws in the last three years. > > > Four states, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Dakota and South Dakota > > have introduced abortion bans and South Dakota's legislature was the > > only one to approve it (though voters there narrowly rejected the > > measure afterwards). > > > The pro-abortion law firm also reported that more than two dozen > > states would likely ban abortion or have trigger laws immediately > > going into effect after a potential Supreme Court decision overturning > > the major abortion case. > > > It lists 21 states as most likely to ban abortions in that instance: > > Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, > > Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, > > Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, > > Virginia, and Wisconsin. > > > It classifies another 9 states as somewhat likely: Arizona, Georgia, > > Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, New Hampshire, and > > Pennsylvania. > > > Meanwhile, the abortion advocacy group hired Lake Research Partners to > > do a survey about Roe issues. > > > According to the polling data, 63 percent of Americans believe that > > Roe v. Wade is increasingly vulnerable under the current Supreme > > Court. > > > Another 60 percent are largely unaware of legislative efforts underway > > at the state level to ban abortion or put trigger laws in place. And > > about 58 percent of those polled are not aware of the current laws on > > abortion in their home state. > > > The survey reached 1,000 registered voters nationwide and it had a 2.7 > > percent margin of error. > > And...there wouldn't be one less abortion in the United States...only more > deaths of young women from unsafe abortions.- Since those women are 'those kind of women' the Religious Reich will not mourn them. JohnN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ray Fischer Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the murder of >a baby. The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. -- Ray Fischer rfischer@sonic.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message news:474c6896$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >>The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the murder >>of >>a baby. > The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. Gallup Poll. May 10-13, 2007. "Next, I'm going to read you a list of issues. Regardless of whether or not you think it should be legal, for each one, please tell me whether you personally believe that in general it is morally acceptable or morally wrong." Abortion: 51% Morally wrong. You support murder. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ray Fischer Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message >news:474c6896$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... >> Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >>>The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the murder >>>of >>>a baby. >> The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. > >Gallup Poll. May 10-13, 2007. Or pro-lie fabrication. >Abortion: 51% Morally wrong. > >You support murder. The pro-liar thinks that repeating a lie often enough will make it true. Cult insanity. -- Ray Fischer rfischer@sonic.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thomas p. Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:474c24b4$0$9880$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "qwerty" <nospam@all.noway.com> wrote in message > news:2vG2j.71402$YL5.66556@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >> "Old Redneck" <old_redneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... >>> On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion >>>> rates go down. >>> Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would >>> skyrocket. >>> Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- >>> they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." >> Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, but >> as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal abortions >> skyrocket. > > "Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thomas p. Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:474c7c69$0$4981$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message > news:474c6896$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... >> Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >>>The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the murder >>>of >>>a baby. >> The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. > > Gallup Poll. May 10-13, 2007. > "Next, I'm going to read you a list of issues. Regardless of whether or > not you think it should be legal, for each one, please tell me whether you > personally believe that in general it is morally acceptable or morally > wrong." > Abortion: 51% Morally wrong. > > You support murder. > > Good luck with that. Abortion does not kill babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mark K. Bilbo Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:07:33 -0800, JohnN wrote: > On Nov 26, 4:24 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:44:08 -0800, SportsBookJunkie wrote: >> > And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion >> > rates go down. >> >> It wouldn't be 30. The very article he's yapping about indicates that >> most people aren't aware of the pro-lie game. Should it become an issue >> (as in the fantasy that RvW is going to be overturned), things will >> shake out differently... >> > Since the last thing the anti-abortion political machine wants is to end > abortion there will never be any legislation to end abortion. > > Evidence: none of the states' legislatures listed in SoT's article have > passed resolutions instruction their congressional deligations to > introduce an anti-abortion constitutional admendment. The leadership of the religious reich does have a bit of a conundrum going. If they actually give the rabble what they want, how do you raise the rabble? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ “In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.” - H. L. Mencken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:474d0bd7$0$2095$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... > "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:474c7c69$0$4981$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message >> news:474c6896$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... >>> Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >>>>The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the >>>>murder of >>>>a baby. >>> The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. >> Gallup Poll. May 10-13, 2007. >> "Next, I'm going to read you a list of issues. Regardless of whether or >> not you think it should be legal, for each one, please tell me whether >> you personally believe that in general it is morally acceptable or >> morally wrong." >> Abortion: 51% Morally wrong. >> You support murder. >> Good luck with that. > Abortion does not kill babies. Your opinion. Others disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:474d0b4b$0$2086$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... > "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:474c24b4$0$9880$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> "qwerty" <nospam@all.noway.com> wrote in message >> news:2vG2j.71402$YL5.66556@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >>> "Old Redneck" <old_redneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion >>>>> rates go down. >>>> Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would >>>> skyrocket. >>>> Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- >>>> they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." >>> Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, but >>> as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal abortions >>> skyrocket. >> "Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thomas p. Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:474d86c8$0$28874$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:474d0bd7$0$2095$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... >> "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse >> news:474c7c69$0$4981$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message >>> news:474c6896$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... >>>> Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >>>>>The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the >>>>>murder of >>>>>a baby. >>>> The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. >>> Gallup Poll. May 10-13, 2007. >>> "Next, I'm going to read you a list of issues. Regardless of whether or >>> not you think it should be legal, for each one, please tell me whether >>> you personally believe that in general it is morally acceptable or >>> morally wrong." >>> Abortion: 51% Morally wrong. >>> You support murder. >>> Good luck with that. >> Abortion does not kill babies. > > Your opinion. > > Others disagree. > People have all kinds of opinions. Abortion is not a crime in the US or in most of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thomas p. Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse news:474d8701$0$28832$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:474d0b4b$0$2086$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... >> "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse >> news:474c24b4$0$9880$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>> "qwerty" <nospam@all.noway.com> wrote in message >>> news:2vG2j.71402$YL5.66556@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >>>> "Old Redneck" <old_redneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as abortion >>>>>> rates go down. >>>>> Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would >>>>> skyrocket. >>>>> Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- >>>>> they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." >>>> Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, >>>> but as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal >>>> abortions skyrocket. >>> "Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:474d9631$0$2090$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... > "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:474d86c8$0$28874$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:474d0bd7$0$2095$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... >>> "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse >>> news:474c7c69$0$4981$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message >>>> news:474c6896$0$14142$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... >>>>> Patriot Games <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >>>>>>The guaranteed "medical problems" associated with abortion are the >>>>>>murder of >>>>>>a baby. >>>>> The same old frothing pro-lie sleaze. Cult instanity. >>>> Gallup Poll. May 10-13, 2007. >>>> "Next, I'm going to read you a list of issues. Regardless of whether or >>>> not you think it should be legal, for each one, please tell me whether >>>> you personally believe that in general it is morally acceptable or >>>> morally wrong." >>>> Abortion: 51% Morally wrong. >>>> You support murder. >>>> Good luck with that. >>> Abortion does not kill babies. >> Your opinion. >> Others disagree. > People have all kinds of opinions. Abortion is not a crime in the US or > in most of the world. It should be, except as for self-defense of the mother. That's MY opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:474d966b$0$2101$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... > "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse > news:474d8701$0$28832$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> "thomas p." <gudloos@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:474d0b4b$0$2086$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk... >>> "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> skrev i en meddelelse >>> news:474c24b4$0$9880$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>> "qwerty" <nospam@all.noway.com> wrote in message >>>> news:2vG2j.71402$YL5.66556@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >>>>> "Old Redneck" <old_redneck@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:2eb4700b-9b33-4fab-9c59-d2aa3b1d1f28@j20g2000hsi.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> On Nov 26, 3:44 pm, SportsBookJunkie <JimmyD...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> And in those thirty states, the welfare rolls would go up as >>>>>>> abortion >>>>>>> rates go down. >>>>>> Admissions to hospital emergency rooms for botched abortions would >>>>>> skyrocket. >>>>>> Of course, wealthy women and their daughters would have no problem -- >>>>>> they'd just visit their doctor for a quiet "procedure." >>>>> Actually, abortion rates do not go down in places where it's banned, >>>>> but as you've noted above medical problems resulting from illegal >>>>> abortions skyrocket. >>>> "Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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