A Synopsis: Clinton Set the Stage for 911

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Bruce Tackett

American Veterans, February 1, 2002





Bill Clinton, through eight years of various actions and in-actions, set the stage for the unspeakable horror that visited this nation on September 11, 2001.

The 1993 Somalia debacle, in which eighteen U.S. Soldiers lost their lives, can be directly attributed to Clinton?s lack of military understanding. Having never served in the military himself, in fact, having taken steps to avoid serving his country at all, he had no concept of what was needed for a successful military action. Immediately following the disaster in Somalia, Clinton simply pulled up steaks and got out. We ran. The father of one of the soldiers who had been killed, Herbert Shughart, refused to shake Bill Clinton's hand at a Congressional Medal of Honor awards ceremony, telling Clinton to his face that he was responsible for the death of his son and that he was not fit to be Commander in Chief.
Concerning Iraq, Madeleine Albright, Clinton?s appointed apologist, recently stated that we should have taken out Saddam Hussein back in 1991. Well, hello? Where was little Miss Madame Secretary of State Albright and ?Feeling-our-Pain? President Clinton between the years 1992 and 2000? After having been soundly defeated by Bush, Sr., Hussein was required to allow UN inspection teams into Iraq to ensure that Iraq would never be able to secretly produce chemical weapons nor any other weapons of mass destruction. Those were the terms. They were non-negotiable. Under the Clinton administration, the UN inspectors were booted out of Iraq, leaving Saddam to continue unimpeded with his programs of mass destruction. Bill Clinton, in effect, gave Saddam Hussein carte blanche to work towards the destruction of America and Israel.
During Hillary?s 2000 run for the Senate seat from New York, Bill Clinton granted pardons to sixteen Puerto Rican terrorists. It just so happened that Hillary (surprise, surprise) coincidentally needed the New York Hispanic vote. To believe that Clinton suddenly released an entire football team of terrorists for any reason other than to help get his wife elected, is to believe that a fairy floats into your bedroom at night and exchanges your recently departed tooth for cash.
In 1993, our World Trade Center was bombed - an open declaration of war on the sovereign soil of the United States of America, and Bill Clinton did nothing. In 1996, The Khobar Towers in Somalia was bombed and Clinton did nothing. In 1998, our embassies in Africa were bombed and Clinton did nothing. In 2000, the U.S.S. Cole was bombed and Clinton did nothing. The only time Clinton ever did anything was when the media was poised and ready to report a major development in one of his personal scandals, and then it was only to lob a few ineffective, token missiles into some dessert tents. And let's not forget the infamous 1998 bombing of a Sudanese aspirin factory on the eve of the Monica Lewinsky trial. With no credible evidence to support the administration's claim that this factory was producing chemical weapons, innocent civilians were killed in what turned out to be an aspirin factory. If any one act inspired hatred for America, this was it! Thank you, Bill.
The Clinton Administration declared that the CIA would no longer be able to utilize operatives who had a criminal past. This is insanity beyond belief! Did Clinton expect us to get our crucial information on terrorist activities from file clerks? From whom do you suppose the FBI gets its information to prosecute The Mob? Choir boys? As a result, our intelligence agencies were handcuffed and rendered ineffective. Information that could have saved the lives of over 3,000 Americans went undiscovered because it would have been "politically incorrect" to associate with unsavory people. Along the same vein, the Clinton Administration allowed U.S. Muslim "charity" organizations to raise money which the administration knew was funding terrorists. Putting a stop to these activities might have been construed as, gasp!, "racial profiling".
All of the above sent a message to Islamic Terrorists: America is weak. America is indecisive. America is corrupt. America is ripe for an attack and America doesn?t have the moral fiber, nor the resources, nor the resolve to fight back. Madeline Albright, Clinton apologist extroidinare, who appears to be on a mission to save her own legacy as well as that of her former boss, has stated that the Clinton Administration would have never been able to gather enough public support for an all out war against terrorism. News flash, Madame Albright: A strong, moral leader recognizes priorities and sets those priorities above all else. The President of the United States can gather support for whatever he deems important! Unfortunately, what was important at the time was Bill Clinton?s quest to decipher the meaning of ?is.? In the meantime, our enemies plotted against us.

Even President Putin of Russia expressed dismay at Clinton's lack of attention to the threat of terrorism.

Let there be no doubt ? William Jefferson Clinton, who leisurely strolled down the streets of New York in the aftermath of 911 wearing his ever-present, smug little half-smile, carries the blood of thousands of Americans on his hands.
A Synopsis: Clinton Set the Stage for 911

Dose anybody else see the chance that history will repeat it's self?
 
Why do Republicans NEVER wanna take responsibility for their actions? Always gotta blame someone else.
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Bender said:
Why do Republicans NEVER wanna take responsibility for their actions? Always gotta blame someone else.
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They really should act much more willing to accept the facts like the Democrats...

Pelosi: Dems bear no responsibility for economic crisis

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, when asked Tuesday whether Democrats bear some of the responsibility regarding the current crisis on Wall Street, had a one-word answer: ?No.?
TheHill.com - Pelosi: Dems bear no responsibility for economic crisis

:D:D:D
 
Bender said:
Why do Republicans NEVER wanna take responsibility for their actions? Always gotta blame someone else.
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You also do realize that the 9/11 commission said the main factor in not spotting the plan was the wall the Clinton administration put up between the intelligence agencies to keep them from knowing what each other know, right?

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Really, so if this was indeed the case, your telling me in all those months before 9/11 while king George was on his throne, he couldn't correct that alleged mistake/oversite? He was the president after all. He could approve warrantless wiretaps and other such unconstitutional things yet couldn't change a fault in the system? WHAT BS.

Again, trying to shift blame and say well if THIS PRESIDENT would have done this and this... YEAH SURE SURE... :rolleyes:

Same with the economy... boy and just think if King George would have gotten his way and tossed our social security into the stock market... bet ya they wouldn't have taken the blame for that either.
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Obama and the Democratic Party is leading us down the same path as Clinton did. He has no understanding of the military and is trying to cut funding. He is trying the cut and run tactics of Clinton. He is setting terrorist free and endangering America in the process. His idea of dealing with them is more diplomacy and pacifism. He is tethering the hands and feet of the CIA and our integrators. He is handing billions of dollars to ACORN and paying back the cronies that got him elected. They are trying to take our guns away using the guise Mexico has a problem and can’t control their own boarder. They have taken the phrase “war on terror” and caned it like it dosen't ’t exist any more.
In just a month of the Obama’s administration they have weekend our defensives and boosted the moral of our enemy.
We are that much closer to another 9-11
 
snafu said:
Obama and the Democratic Party is leading us down the same path as Clinton did. He has no understanding of the military and is trying to cut funding. He is trying the cut and run tactics of Clinton.
God I love this stupid arguement.. cut and run, cut and run.. WHAT THE HELL IS WINNING? WHEN IS THE GOD DAMN JOB DONE?

REALITY CHECK... IT'S DONE, IT'S BEEN DONE, NO REASON TO STAY !!


He is setting terrorist free and endangering America in the process.
Actually charging people instead of just leaving them sitting in a cell with no charges is setting them free? Is this America or a Saddam Hussien regime?

His idea of dealing with them is more diplomacy and pacifism.
As opposed to what? Kill someone if they are innocent, imprison them with no real charges? If that's what you approve of, keep one thing in mind... IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU TOO. Wouldn't like those apples now would you?


He is tethering the hands and feet of the CIA and our integrators.
So what would YOU do? Beat em some more, kill em, and think you got somewhere? If I kept you locked up for years and asked you where your terrorist cell buddies were, would you even know? The terrorists would be dumb enough to stay in the same place? GET FRIKKEN REAL.


He is handing billions of dollars to ACORN and paying back the cronies that got him elected.
proof
They are trying to take our guns away using the guise Mexico has a problem and can?t control their own boarder.
No they are not, although you do have a couple who would like to take away assault weapons.. this will never happen, so why all the... as usual... FEAR AND PARANOIA?

They have taken the phrase ?war on terror? and caned it like it dosen't ?t exist any more.
So where are the "TERRORISTS" Iraq? TELL ME !!


In just a month of the Obama?s administration they have weekend our defensives and boosted the moral of our enemy.
We are that much closer to another 9-11

FEAR AND FRIKKEN PARANOIA... JESUS YOU CONSERVATIVES SHOULD REALLY GET THERAPY !!
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Bender said:
God I love this stupid arguement.. cut and run, cut and run.. WHAT THE HELL IS WINNING? WHEN IS THE GOD DAMN JOB DONE?

REALITY CHECK... IT'S DONE, IT'S BEEN DONE, NO REASON TO STAY !!


Actually charging people instead of just leaving them sitting in a cell with no charges is setting them free? Is this America or a Saddam Hussien regime?

As opposed to what? Kill someone if they are innocent, imprison them with no real charges? If that's what you approve of, keep one thing in mind... IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU TOO. Wouldn't like those apples now would you?


So what would YOU do? Beat em some more, kill em, and think you got somewhere? If I kept you locked up for years and asked you where your terrorist cell buddies were, would you even know? The terrorists would be dumb enough to stay in the same place? GET FRIKKEN REAL.



proof
No they are not, although you do have a couple who would like to take away assault weapons.. this will never happen, so why all the... as usual... FEAR AND PARANOIA?

So where are the "TERRORISTS" Iraq? TELL ME !!




FEAR AND FRIKKEN PARANOIA... JESUS YOU CONSERVATIVES SHOULD REALLY GET THERAPY !!
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I was hopping for some opposition. :cool:

I'll give you the cut and run one. I think it's over too but he's not gonna get the troops out like he's saying. He's full of . We have to keep a present in that region for quit a few more years.

I want to get information anyway we can. If it means torture than so be it.


As far as the ACORN pay off just look at the stimulus bill. He's giving them millions of dollars. I'm not gonna google it up tonight.

He is cutting the military budget. He is tying the hands of our CIA and making it harder to collect intelligences. He is letting known terrorists go.

He is making America more vulnerable to attack and I predict we will see it during his administration.
 
snafu said:
I was hopping for some opposition. :cool:

I'll give you the cut and run one. I think it's over too but he's not gonna get the troops out like he's saying. He's full of . We have to keep a present in that region for quit a few more years.
And that isn't his plan? Jesus, he has Liberals all pissed off at him because he is not gonna pull ALL the troops out, you read the news I'm sure, he plans on keeping $50,000, is that not enough? You'd rather your tax dollars are spent in the billions a day on a few hundred thousand troops? You like that?

I want to get information anyway we can. If it means torture than so be it.
Torture is a different matter all together. It's one thing to torture someone for info, it's another thing to hold them without charges. And that's the big bitch from the Democrats... holding someone without due process. The torture issue is just a bunch of liberal crybabies.. remember, DEMOCRAT does NOT = LIBERAL, high time you & others learn this.


As far as the ACORN pay off just look at the stimulus bill. He's giving them millions of dollars. I'm not gonna google it up tonight
No, you said he was paying them off for helping get him elected.. BULLSHIIT.. How did they help? You gonna use that "FAKE REGISTRATIONS" excuse? DID THOSE FAKE REGISTRATIONS GO TO THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY?

He is cutting the military budget. He is tying the hands of our CIA and making it harder to collect intelligences. He is letting known terrorists go
How do YOU know these were terrorists? AGAIN... NO DUE PROCESS. What happened to innocent till proven guilty? You think just because "OH WELL OUR MILITARY ARRESTED THEM, MUST BE TERRORISTS, MUST BE GULTY"... Yeah, nice mindset to have. :rolleyes:

He is making America more vulnerable to attack and I predict we will see it during his administration.
HOW?

Who threatened us? Who's growing stronger, be specific. You have inside info into terrorist activities do you?

Doesn't that make you a terrorist supporter?
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Holder also said that reinstating the ban would help reduce violence not only in the United States, but across the border, where government forces are struggling to contain violent drug cartels. "I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference highlighting the drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Less than 6% of crime in Amercia are commted with the use of assult rifles. It seems to me Mexico has a bigger problem than we do.

Attorney General Holder Says Obama Will Reinstate Assault Weapons Ban | AHN | March 1, 2009
 
Just because one guy is saying something about getting rid of assault weapons yet again, doesn't mean it will happen, you have way too many right leaning DEMOCRATS in office that will never let that fly.
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Bender said:
Just because one guy is saying something about getting rid of assault weapons yet again, doesn't mean it will happen, you have way too many right leaning DEMOCRATS in office that will never let that fly.
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Well I hope your right.
 
Bender said:
...No, you said he was paying them off for helping get him elected.. BULLSHIIT.. How did they help? You gonna use that "FAKE REGISTRATIONS" excuse? DID THOSE FAKE REGISTRATIONS GO TO THE POLLS ON ELECTION DAY?
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ACORN is under investigation in at least 14 states in connection with allegations of voter registration fraud in the 2008 campaign
Yeah they helped him get elected.
 
snafu said:
Yeah they helped him get elected.
Equate voter registration to actual votes. Where do you get it in your head that REGISTERING a name = a vote?

THIS I GOTTA HEAR.

I don't know about Alaska, but here in America, if you register to vote, you need to then go to a polling place during the designated time of the year to cast your vote, you don't get to say "WELL, OK I REGISTERED AND HERE IS WHO I AM VOTING FOR" right then and there. I know Mickey Mouse was one of the fake names used by the people acorn PAID TO COLLECT REGISTRATIONS... but did MICKEY MOUSE or someone using that name show up at the polls? Is there any case of this whatsoever you can find?

Registering a name is not the same as voting under that name.... unless your Ann Coulter and vote in 2 different states.

That blows your "ACORN HELPED OBAMA" theory right out of the water.
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Bender said:
That blows your "ACORN HELPED OBAMA" theory right out of the water.
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Obama and ACORN: You Can Run, But You Can?t Hide

Monday, October 6, 2008 7:26 PM
Barack Obama is running as fast and as far away from his association with the radical group ACORN as he can, but he can?t hide from the facts of his close relationship with the organization.

ACORN, or Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, describes itself as a ?non-partisan? group devoted to helping the poor and to registering millions to vote. Critics accuse ACORN of involvement vote fraud, voter intimidation, shakedowns against businesses, and the promotion of socialist class hatred and class warfare.
Newsmax.com ? Obama and ACORN: You Can Run, But You Can?t Hide

Biden Wrong About ACORN-Obama Connection


Sunday, October 26, 2008 9:28 PM

Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden did not tell the truth Thursday when hit with tough questions about ACORN from a veteran journalist.

?Aren?t you embarrassed by the blatant attempt to register phony voters by ACORN, an organization that Barack Obama has been tied to in the past?? said Orlando, Fla., WFTV anchor Barbara West.

?I am not embarrassed by it,? Biden replied. ?We are not tied to them. We have not paid them one single penny to register a single solitary voter . . . We register the voters ourselves, and so there is no relationship.?

A Newsmax Fact Check shows that Obama has had a long relationship with the group, and the Obama campaign did indeed pay an ACORN subsidiary more than $800,000. The radical Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a multi-faced creature its founders spun off into about 100 separate legal entities.

In our Oct. 6 investigation, Newsmax reported that ACORN?s founders ?created a shell game under which money acquired by one ACORN front group, Project Vote (run in Illinois in 1992 by Barack Obama), would be moved to other ACORN-controlled groups,? some openly political and others tax-exempt and prohibited from direct political activism.


The New York Times, following Newsmax?s lead, reported on Oct. 22 ?concerns about (ACORN?s) potentially improper use of charitable dollars for political purposes; money transfers among the affiliates; and potential conflicts created by employees working for multiple affiliates, among other things.?

Was Biden answering the question put to him honestly? As Newsmax reported, ?leading up to the 2008 Ohio Democratic Primary, Obama?s campaign between Feb. 25 and March 17 paid Citizens Services Inc. (CSI), a subsidiary of ACORN, $832,598, apparently for get-out-the-vote activities.?

Money given to one arm of the ACORN octopus frequently is shared with other arms, and because ACORN?s loose bookkeeping blurs the distinction between political and non-political uses of this fungible money, Biden was at best misleading when he claimed, ?We have not paid them one single penny to register a single solitary voter . . . We register the voters ourselves, and so there is no relationship.?

In fact, the Obama campaign paid an ACORN-run organization more than $800,000. In Federal Election Commission required filings, the Obama campaign reported that this money was paid for polling, advance work and event staging. After watchdog scrutiny called this claim into question, the Obama campaign revised its filing and acknowledged that CSI was paid for ?get-out-the-vote? projects.
Newsmax.com - Biden Wrong About ACORN-Obama Connection

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Ep1tkNOUU"]YouTube - OBAMA'S ACORN EXPOSED PART 1 OF 2[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625jUE78zjE"]YouTube - OBAMA'S ACORN EXPOSED PART 2 OF 2[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU"]YouTube - OBAMA CAUGHT SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUEPeO2_pc"]YouTube - Acorn's Bertha Lewis Says Thanks and Vote Working Families Party[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swK3fcGebSY"]YouTube - Obama's ACORN: Buying the Presidency[/ame]

Yea, they sure sound non-partisan and didn't do anything to actively get Obama elected did they? :rolleyes:

When they openly campaign for a party or candidate, they shouldn't get billions of taxpayer dollars.

 
Bender said:
Equate voter registration to actual votes.

nuff' said.
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You said it blew ACORN helped Obama win out of water, not registration equals actual votes, but since you brought it up. The Democrats are working on being able to cheat in that regard already.

They fight against having to provide ID at the polls and now want people to be able to register and vote on the spot.

Senator Feingold is the lead sponsor of the Election Day Registration Act. The bill brings Wisconsin?s long progressive tradition of fair and open elections to the national stage by allowing what our state already does ? same day registration on Election Day ? for all federal elections across the country. Election Day registration would also help curb possible fraud since voters would be present to both register and vote.
Russ Feingold - Government Reform

They want it to be ok to walk into the polling place, register and vote, without any time to verify the ballot. Hmm, with ACORN's practices, I can't see how this will be abused. :rolleyes:
 
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