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These guys are going for it all. They must be worried they are going to piss off Americans and have to prepare to rig the next election...

White House control over census worries Utah GOP

Posted: 02/07/2009 04:00:00 PM MST

Washington ? Utah's Republican members of Congress are none too happy about a plan that would have the Census Bureau report to White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, the former head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Utah lost out on a fourth House seat after the 2000 Census by a few hundred people and argued unsuccessfully all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court that the bureau should have counted Mormon missionaries from Utah serving abroad.

That legal fight has made Utah officials wary of the 2010 Census, and news out of the White House that the director of the Census Bureau will work under Emanuel has deepened that concern.

"The political land grab is stunning," said freshman Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah. The census "is not intended to be political in any way shape or form. ? We're not even 15 days into this administration and they're already working on the next campaign."

Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, echoed those concerns, saying neither the Constitution nor Congress has delegated census power to the White House chief of staff.

"It would politicize the process much more than it needs to be, and it shouldn't happen," Bishop said. "It takes something that is supposedly apolitical like the census, and gives it to a guy who is infamously political."

The White House move to place the census under more direct control comes after black and Latino advocacy groups argued that President Barack Obama's nominee for Commerce secretary, Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., has opposed increased funding for the census and is against sampling.

Sampling uses mathematical formulas to gauge population estimates instead of house-to-house counts. The method, typically opposed by conservatives and supported by liberals, is regarded by some mathematicians as a more accurate method to ensure some populations, such as immigrants, are counted.

Detractors of sampling say the Constitution is clear that every person must be counted, which rules out such a method.
White House control over census worries Utah GOP - Salt Lake Tribune
 
The worst part is that when the census is conducted under the commerce department, the methods and rules have to be presented to Congress and can either be rejected or accepted.

The White House can use executive privilage to refuse to turn over their methods of conducting the census. This along with the wanted method of sampling, you can manipulate the hell out of the census results. These results decide congressional districts, electoral college votes, and what districts get federal money.
 
Gregg withdraws as commerce nominee

Posted by Foon Rhee, deputy national political editor

February 12, 2009 05:02 PM


Senator Judd Gregg, the New Hampshire Republican, withdrew this afternoon as President Obama's nominee for Commerce Secretary, saying he had too many difference on the stimulus package and the Census.


“However, it has become apparent during this process that this will not work for me as I have found that on issues such as the stimulus package and the Census there are irresolvable conflicts for me. Prior to accepting this post, we had discussed these and other potential differences, but unfortunately we did not adequately focus on these concerns. We are functioning from a different set of views on many critical items of policy," Gregg said in a statement.


Gregg had recused himself from voting on the stimulus, or any other matter before the Senate, while his nomination was pending.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2009/02/gregg_withdraws.html
 
Yep, gonna fix it just like they fixed it to show an unbelievable 365 electorals for Obama in 08' :rolleyes:
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Bender said:
Yep, gonna fix it just like they fixed it to show an unbelievable 365 electorals for Obama in 08' :rolleyes:
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No surprise here. Those that voted for Obama were from the areas that were given handouts, not those that paid taxes.

I'm sure you and the rest of the Dems would have stood back and been fine, if in 2000, President Bush had said, hay, I think Karl Rove should be in charge of the census.

Give me a friggin' break. Rahm Emanuel is even more partisan than anyone in the Republican party and Obama wants him to be in charge of the census.

If broken down by county, there was a far greater area of positive taxpayers that voted for McCain.

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Overwhelmingly the areas that have the most social programs and support those that need from the government, vote Democrat, because they promise them free stuff.

It's now a statistical fact in the US that we are almost to the point that those who pay taxes are about to be in the minority. We are almost to the point that there are less people that pay taxes, than those who are supported by the government.

We are about to have more people getting money from the government than those who recieve benefits.

These are the same areas that are asking for and recieving the most from the stimulus. If you notice traditionaly conservative states are less likely to ask for federal assistance.

I understand why the Dems want to take our guns away, because we are about to rise up against them.
 

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Really, lets see some data to back up those RUSH LIMBAUGH induced facts to go along with the fear and paranoia your spewing.

How about people who are on welfare because there are no damn jobs available?
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