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Jim Alder
Guest
Here's an interesting cheap shot at Giuliani this morning.
He compares the US health care with English socialized medicine. He spits
out some stats about his prostate cancer and the ACS steps up and cries
'unfair'! Rudy said his survival chances were 82% versus 44% in England. The
ACS fires back saying it was 95%/60% for five years. Of course, Rudy didn't
say 5 years and the ACS didn't specify it was for a man his age. Plus the ACS
included the entire UK, while Rudy said England.
So his point, that in England his chances were much lower, was drowned out
in the process, as planned. "Critics" claimed Giuliani 'distorted' the
comparison because American men were more likely to be screened regularly.
This would seem to bear out Rudy's point. If socialized medicine is so
great, why don't men get screened as often as American men? The article
doesn't say, as if it is a mere fact of life and doesn't bear scrutiny.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21603503/
Critics say Giuliani distorted cancer stats
Critics say ad campaign understates, distorts statistics for U.S. and England
The Associated Press
updated 7:56 p.m. ET, Fri., Nov. 2, 2007
WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani is defending the survival rates he quotes when
talking about his prostate cancer, amid criticism he understates the figures
and makes unfair comparisons.
In a radio ad running this week in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: "My chance of
surviving prostate cancer, and thank God I was cured of it, in the United
States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only
44 percent under socialized medicine."
The American Cancer Society says the survival rates are actually higher and it
is misleading to compare the two countries.
Regardless, Giuliani said Friday, his point is clear.
"Even if you want to quibble about the statistics, you find me the person who
leaves the United States and goes to England for prostate cancer treatment,
and I'd like to meet that person," he told reporters in Washington.
The American Cancer Society says five-year survival rates were 95 percent in
the U.S. and 60 percent in the United Kingdom, which includes Britain, in
1993-1995, the most recent time period with data to compare.
Rates are even higher today
He compares the US health care with English socialized medicine. He spits
out some stats about his prostate cancer and the ACS steps up and cries
'unfair'! Rudy said his survival chances were 82% versus 44% in England. The
ACS fires back saying it was 95%/60% for five years. Of course, Rudy didn't
say 5 years and the ACS didn't specify it was for a man his age. Plus the ACS
included the entire UK, while Rudy said England.
So his point, that in England his chances were much lower, was drowned out
in the process, as planned. "Critics" claimed Giuliani 'distorted' the
comparison because American men were more likely to be screened regularly.
This would seem to bear out Rudy's point. If socialized medicine is so
great, why don't men get screened as often as American men? The article
doesn't say, as if it is a mere fact of life and doesn't bear scrutiny.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21603503/
Critics say Giuliani distorted cancer stats
Critics say ad campaign understates, distorts statistics for U.S. and England
The Associated Press
updated 7:56 p.m. ET, Fri., Nov. 2, 2007
WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani is defending the survival rates he quotes when
talking about his prostate cancer, amid criticism he understates the figures
and makes unfair comparisons.
In a radio ad running this week in New Hampshire, Giuliani says: "My chance of
surviving prostate cancer, and thank God I was cured of it, in the United
States: 82 percent. My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: only
44 percent under socialized medicine."
The American Cancer Society says the survival rates are actually higher and it
is misleading to compare the two countries.
Regardless, Giuliani said Friday, his point is clear.
"Even if you want to quibble about the statistics, you find me the person who
leaves the United States and goes to England for prostate cancer treatment,
and I'd like to meet that person," he told reporters in Washington.
The American Cancer Society says five-year survival rates were 95 percent in
the U.S. and 60 percent in the United Kingdom, which includes Britain, in
1993-1995, the most recent time period with data to compare.
Rates are even higher today