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Controversial Anti-Muslim Dutch Film Adds to Already Simmering Tensions
Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Threats of murder. Fears of riots and religious violence. Demands for
censorship. Politicians in hiding, fearing for their lives. A government
preparing for the worst.

It's happening right now in a most unlikely place ... the Netherlands, once
regarded as Europe's quietest and most stable nation.

And it's all happening because of a 10-minute movie that hasn't even been
made yet.

It's the work of Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, who calls his movie "a call
to shake off the creeping tyranny of Islamicization." Wilders plans to
present it to his country on television sometime next month.

"People who watch the movie will see that the Koran is very much alive
today, leading to the destruction of everything we in the Western world
stand for, which is respect and tolerance," Wilders, the 41-year-old leader
of the right-wing Party for Freedom, said in a telephone interview.

"The tsunami of Islamicization is coming to Europe. We should come to be far
stronger."

Like other European countries, the Netherlands is struggling to cope with an
influx of Muslim immigrants, and the newcomers are often relegated to
working at low-paying jobs and living in high-crime ghettos. Though the
Dutch boast of their culture of tolerance, tensions have been high, with
some blaming rising unemployment and crime on newcomers from Muslim
countries like Turkey, Morocco and Somalia.

In the late 1990s, political leaders like Pim Fortuyn, Somalian-born writer
Ayaan Hirsi Ali and outspoken filmmaker Theo van Gogh seemed to tap into a
growing well of resentment against Muslims and criticism of Islam.

In 2002, tensions broke into outright murder when Fortuyn was shot by an
animal rights activist who told the judge in the case that he was acting on
behalf of the country's Muslims. Two years later, van Gogh was shot, stabbed
and nearly decapitated on an Amsterdam street by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Muslim
and a Dutch citizen of Moroccan descent.

Van Gogh, with Hirsi Ali, had recently made the film "Submission," a
10-minute movie that the two said depicted the abuse of women in Islamic
cultures. After van Gogh's murder, the Dutch government placed public
figures known for their anti-Muslim stances in safehouses.

Among them was the parliamentarian Geert Wilders. He hasn't been out of
government protection since, a situation he said "I wouldn't wish on my
worst enemy," and his views on Islam have only hardened.

Four months ago, he called for the Koran to be outlawed in the Netherlands.

"I believe our culture is much better than the retarded Islamic cultures,"
he told FOXNews.com in a telephone interview. "Ninety-nine percent of the
intolerance in the world comes back to the Islamic religion and the Koran."

Though he refuses to claim the mantle of van Gogh's successor, Wilders
clearly sees himself as continuing the controversial filmmaker's work. He
acknowledges the similarities between "Submission" and his own 10-minute
work, about five minutes of which have been completed, he said.

"I have so much respect for van Gogh's movie, aimed at one part of the
Koran, women's bodies, one very bad part of the Koran," Wilders said. "I
will use not only that theme but many others. Of course at the end it is a
different movie."

Though Wilders has remained steadfastly vague about the specific contents of
his movie, saying he wants to maximize the "moment of the broadcast itself,"
he added that it will include "images and parts of real-time movies that
really happen in the Netherlands and the U.K. and the Middle East, the
intolerance of the Koran that is still alive and vivid today."

Wilders, raised Catholic but long an atheist, said he's working with
professors who are experts on the Koran and Islamic culture, professional
filmmakers and scriptwriters to complete his film, which he hopes to
broadcast next month on "Nova," a popular news program on Dutch public
television. If "Nova" refuses to air the program, he said, he will broadcast
the movie using the air time his political party is guaranteed by the
government.

The Dutch government, which is protecting Wilders, has publicly warned him
about the potential for violence at the completion of his film and has
expressed concern over his personal safety. The government is also concerned
about peace within the country and interests abroad. In 2005, cartoons
printed in a Danish newspaper led to Danish embassies being set on fire,
multi-million-dollar anti-Danish consumer boycotts in the Middle East, and
hundreds of deaths in riots across the Muslim world.

"The government is taking the announcement of this movie quite seriously,"
said Floris van Hovell, a spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Washington,
D.C. "Obviously, because the movie hasn't been made, we cannot say anything
about the movie until the movie has been shown, but the message Mr. Wilders
has told us he wants to portray is disturbing."

Asked if the government plans to beef up security, Van Hovell said he
couldn't comment. But he did say that the government is making a concerted
effort to reach out to the Muslim community in the Netherlands and the
larger Muslim world.

"We're explaining that in the Netherlands you have freedom of expression,
and that at the same time the Dutch government is very concerned about the
message Mr. Wilders supposedly wants to portray in his movie," van Hovell
said.

Wilders has requested additional personal security from the government.

Wilders' rhetoric may have struck a chord among a part of the Dutch
population. One poll suggests that if elections were held today, his Freedom
Party would win 26 seats in the 150-seat Tweede Kamer -- Holland's House of
Representatives -- up from nine the party won last November.

Muslim reaction to Wilders' film has been predictably less supportive. Some
are calling for it to be outlawed before it is broadcast, and groups of both
Muslims and non-Muslims have publicly denounced the film.

"I think he's addicted to the attention of the media," said Zainab
al-Touraihi, secretary-general of the Contact Body for Muslims, the official
Muslim advisory body to the Dutch government. "He's doing it for political
reasons, and I'm sure he's getting more and more votes. And that's the scary
thing, actually."

She said she supported Wilders' right to make the movie, though she said she
was certain it would be skewed and harmful to both Dutch Muslims and the
Netherlands as a whole.

"He would like to see that every Muslim woman is in prayers and held at home
and that they have no rights, but he's not looking at Muslims these days,"
she said. "The Koran is a matter of interpretation, just like the Bible and
the Torah. You need to interpret, not take it literally."

Al-Touraihi's group has long had a standing invitation to Wilders to speak
to its members or take part in a debate. And Wilders has always ignored it,
she said.

"If he really believed in these things, he would go out and sit with us and
talk about issues, but he's never responded, so it's a one-man show and a
one-way show," al-Touraihi said. "As a member of parliament, he can get
every camera in front of him and say whatever he wants, but he never goes
out for debates because I think he knows that he would lose voters."

For Wilders, though, all the criticism is just proof that he's on the right
path.

"The reaction is proof of how much the movie is needed," he said. "This is
not Morocco. We're living in the Kingdom of the Netherlands, a free
country."
 
On Dec 12, 7:43 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313741,00.html
>
> Controversial Anti-Muslim Dutch Film Adds to Already Simmering Tensions
> Tuesday, December 11, 2007
>
> Threats of murder. Fears of riots and religious violence. Demands for
> censorship. Politicians in hiding, fearing for their lives. A government
> preparing for the worst.
>
> It's happening right now in a most unlikely place ... the Netherlands, once
> regarded as Europe's quietest and most stable nation.
>
> And it's all happening because of a 10-minute movie that hasn't even been
> made yet.
>
> It's the work of Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, who calls his movie "a call
> to shake off the creeping tyranny of Islamicization." Wilders plans to
> present it to his country on television sometime next month.
>
> "People who watch the movie will see that the Koran is very much alive
> today, leading to the destruction of everything we in the Western world
> stand for, which is respect and tolerance," Wilders, the 41-year-old leader
> of the right-wing Party for Freedom, said in a telephone interview.
>
> "The tsunami of Islamicization is coming to Europe. We should come to be far
> stronger."
>
> Like other European countries, the Netherlands is struggling to cope with an
> influx of Muslim immigrants, and the newcomers are often relegated to
> working at low-paying jobs and living in high-crime ghettos. Though the
> Dutch boast of their culture of tolerance, tensions have been high, with
> some blaming rising unemployment and crime on newcomers from Muslim
> countries like Turkey, Morocco and Somalia.
>
> In the late 1990s, political leaders like Pim Fortuyn, Somalian-born writer
> Ayaan Hirsi Ali and outspoken filmmaker Theo van Gogh seemed to tap into a
> growing well of resentment against Muslims and criticism of Islam.
>
> In 2002, tensions broke into outright murder when Fortuyn was shot by an
> animal rights activist who told the judge in the case that he was acting on
> behalf of the country's Muslims. Two years later, van Gogh was shot, stabbed
> and nearly decapitated on an Amsterdam street by Mohammed Bouyeri, a Muslim
> and a Dutch citizen of Moroccan descent.
>
> Van Gogh, with Hirsi Ali, had recently made the film "Submission," a
> 10-minute movie that the two said depicted the abuse of women in Islamic
> cultures. After van Gogh's murder, the Dutch government placed public
> figures known for their anti-Muslim stances in safehouses.
>
> Among them was the parliamentarian Geert Wilders. He hasn't been out of
> government protection since, a situation he said "I wouldn't wish on my
> worst enemy," and his views on Islam have only hardened.
>
> Four months ago, he called for the Koran to be outlawed in the Netherlands.
>
> "I believe our culture is much better than the retarded Islamic cultures,"
> he told FOXNews.com in a telephone interview. "Ninety-nine percent of the
> intolerance in the world comes back to the Islamic religion and the Koran."
>
> Though he refuses to claim the mantle of van Gogh's successor, Wilders
> clearly sees himself as continuing the controversial filmmaker's work. He
> acknowledges the similarities between "Submission" and his own 10-minute
> work, about five minutes of which have been completed, he said.
>
> "I have so much respect for van Gogh's movie, aimed at one part of the
> Koran, women's bodies, one very bad part of the Koran," Wilders said. "I
> will use not only that theme but many others. Of course at the end it is a
> different movie."
>
> Though Wilders has remained steadfastly vague about the specific contents of
> his movie, saying he wants to maximize the "moment of the broadcast itself,"
> he added that it will include "images and parts of real-time movies that
> really happen in the Netherlands and the U.K. and the Middle East, the
> intolerance of the Koran that is still alive and vivid today."
>
> Wilders, raised Catholic but long an atheist, said he's working with
> professors who are experts on the Koran and Islamic culture, professional
> filmmakers and scriptwriters to complete his film, which he hopes to
> broadcast next month on "Nova," a popular news program on Dutch public
> television. If "Nova" refuses to air the program, he said, he will broadcast
> the movie using the air time his political party is guaranteed by the
> government.
>
> The Dutch government, which is protecting Wilders, has publicly warned him
> about the potential for violence at the completion of his film and has
> expressed concern over his personal safety. The government is also concerned
> about peace within the country and interests abroad. In 2005, cartoons
> printed in a Danish newspaper led to Danish embassies being set on fire,
> multi-million-dollar anti-Danish consumer boycotts in the Middle East, and
> hundreds of deaths in riots across the Muslim world.
>
> "The government is taking the announcement of this movie quite seriously,"
> said Floris van Hovell, a spokesman for the Dutch Embassy in Washington,
> D.C. "Obviously, because the movie hasn't been made, we cannot say anything
> about the movie until the movie has been shown, but the message Mr. Wilders
> has told us he wants to portray is disturbing."
>
> Asked if the government plans to beef up security, Van Hovell said he
> couldn't comment. But he did say that the government is making a concerted
> effort to reach out to the Muslim community in the Netherlands and the
> larger Muslim world.
>
> "We're explaining that in the Netherlands you have freedom of expression,
> and that at the same time the Dutch government is very concerned about the
> message Mr. Wilders supposedly wants to portray in his movie," van Hovell
> said.
>
> Wilders has requested additional personal security from the government.
>
> Wilders' rhetoric may have struck a chord among a part of the Dutch
> population. One poll suggests that if elections were held today, his Freedom
> Party would win 26 seats in the 150-seat Tweede Kamer -- Holland's House of
> Representatives -- up from nine the party won last November.
>
> Muslim reaction to Wilders' film has been predictably less supportive. Some
> are calling for it to be outlawed before it is broadcast, and groups of both
> Muslims and non-Muslims have publicly denounced the film.
>
> "I think he's addicted to the attention of the media," said Zainab
> al-Touraihi, secretary-general of the Contact Body for Muslims, the official
> Muslim advisory body to the Dutch government. "He's doing it for political
> reasons, and I'm sure he's getting more and more votes. And that's the scary
> thing, actually."
>
> She said she supported Wilders' right to make the movie, though she said she
> was certain it would be skewed and harmful to both Dutch Muslims and the
> Netherlands as a whole.
>
> "He would like to see that every Muslim woman is in prayers and held at home
> and that they have no rights, but he's not looking at Muslims these days,"
> she said. "The Koran is a matter of interpretation, just like the Bible and
> the Torah. You need to interpret, not take it literally."
>
> Al-Touraihi's group has long had a standing invitation to Wilders to speak
> to its members or take part in a debate. And Wilders has always ignored it,
> she said.
>
> "If he really believed in these things, he would go out and sit with us and
> talk about issues, but he's never responded, so it's a one-man show and a
> one-way show," al-Touraihi said. "As a member of parliament, he can get
> every camera in front of him and say whatever he wants, but he never goes
> out for debates because I think he knows that he would lose voters."
>
> For Wilders, though, all the criticism is just proof that he's on the right
> path.
>
> "The reaction is proof of how much the movie is needed," he said. "This is
> not Morocco. We're living in the Kingdom of the Netherlands, a free
> country."


Wow, Wilders has guts. It will be interesting to see
if his movie is allowed to air here, but there's always
the Internet and NOBODY will censor that !

Citizen Jimserac
 
"Citizen Jimserac" <Jimserac@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bc036c17-a356-4c2c-98c7-8613126efbee@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 12, 7:43 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313741,00.html
>> Controversial Anti-Muslim Dutch Film Adds to Already Simmering Tensions
>> Tuesday, December 11, 2007

> Wow, Wilders has guts.


He sure does!!

> It will be interesting to see
> if his movie is allowed to air here, but there's always
> the Internet and NOBODY will censor that !


Nobody will distribute it here.

Yeah, we'll get it off the Internet.
 
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