DizzyME Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 After seeing the preview for "The Exorcism of Emily Rose" for the millionth time, I have to ask this question: Do demons exist? If you think so, why? If not, why? Do you believe that people can be possessed by demons? I want to say I don't believe that things such as demons exist, but when I hear some of the stories that are supposed to be based on fact, it makes me wonder what the hell is going on. I realize some of the cases could be caused by mental disorders, and many are hoaxes, but I want to know what you think. Those of you that are religious, I'd like to know what your faith says about demons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullauto Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I am of the opinion, opinion only, that demons do not exist... Quote Liberals... Saving the world one semester at a time "I'm not a racist... I'm a realist! And if you don't know the difference, You're an Idiot!" -- Fullauto Present - 1. (Noun) The point that divides disappointment from hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phreakwars Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I think the correct term for a DEMON would be "NO OTHER EXCUSE FOR BEING AN ASSHOLE". . . Quote https://www.facebook.com/phreakwars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I am of the opinion, opinion only, that demons do not exist... You've never met my mother-in-law. 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyME Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 You've never met my mother-in-law. Woah. Wait. Someone actually married you? j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Woah. Wait. Someone actually married you? j/k She was deaf, dumb and blind. Played a mean game of pinball though. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayGal Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 LOL @ Dizzy. Anyways....i dont know about demons...but i believe in ghost. Anyone else? Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bf579d790688a5b6ce4acac92ae0b3e3.jpg Gray~Gal ..... You can only be young once. But you can always be immature. ~Dave Barry "I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally." WC Fields. Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. Unknown There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance. ~Goethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 The only demons around is mankind itself. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParasiteGod Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Well... I believe in Demons and Ghosts, etc. But in a more practical sense, even if those aren't real, I think demons exist in a context where it's synonymous with "issues" I don't know if you can prove actual demons exist though. But just because you can't prove something doesn't mean you can disprove them. It's like wondering if God is real or not. Perhaps demons are just our minds screwing with us. Perhaps not. Yeah, I believe in demons, because I've seen 'em. Perhaps it was just my eyes playing tricks on me, but I still saw something, be it real or not, so I'm going to choose to believe in them, for now. Quote I want to report a double murder. If you go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to the public park, you will find kids in a brown car. They were shot with a 9mm Luger. I also killed those kids last year. Good bye Brooks, I like you. Now get out of here. Go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Well... I believe in Demons and Ghosts, etc. But in a more practical sense, even if those aren't real, I think demons exist in a context where it's synonimous(sp?) with "issues" I don't know if you can prove actual demons exist though. But just because you can't prove something doesn't mean you can disprove them. It's like wondering if God is real or not. Perhaps demons are just our minds screwing with us. Perhaps not. Yeah, I believe in demons, because I've seen 'em. Perhaps it was just my eyes playing tricks on me, but I still saw something, be it real or not, so I'm going to choose to believe in them, for now. I'm both religios and opinion.I think that they exist.God does exist,but there's also a devil.Doesn't that remind you of something PG? I wish I didn't but I do believe that Demons,Ghost,etc,do exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Well... I believe in Demons and Ghosts, etc. But in a more practical sense, even if those aren't real, I think demons exist in a context where it's synonimous(sp?) with "issues" That i can agree with.....Its more of a metaphore for an evil person than an actually barbed devil claiming to send us away from god etc..... but then again....maybe i am wrong [attach=full]441[/attach] Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_dragon87 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Always with my two cents, so here goes. This, of course, is based on me being an atheist, so this is all in my humble opinion As you all know [that I think], God does NOT exist, and therefore neither does the Devil. There is no Hell, and no Heaven. There are no angels, and no pointy-tailed red guys with pitchforks. However. There are souls, there is an afterlife, and there are most definitely spirits. Good ones, and nasty ones. So, the closest thing to a 'demon' you can have is a really bad, really powerful, probably pissed-off spirit. It might claim to be a demon, perhaps to add to the fear and so on. Likewise, there are powerful beings of good. They just happen to....not have a body anymore. Yes, you could call these beings demons or angels because of the role they play and what they actually are, but do the stereotypes exist--the winged, fanged, flying shadow nasty guys? Absolutely not. IMHO, as always. Quote Everyone pound your feet to this phenomenon. Now, let's make it loud, let's show 'em all how you move to this phenomenon. Roll! Open your soul, maybe lose control inside of this phenomenon. Just let yourself go and let everyone know you move to this phenomenon. Phenomenon --- Thousand Foot Krutches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Always with my two cents, so here goes. This, of course, is based on me being an atheist, so this is all in my humble opinion As you all know [that I think], God does NOT exist, and therefore neither does the Devil. There is no Hell, and no Heaven. There are no angels, and no pointy-tailed red guys with pitchforks. However. There are souls, there is an afterlife, and there are most definitely spirits. Good ones, and nasty ones. So, the closest thing to a 'demon' you can have is a really bad, really powerful, probably pissed-off spirit. It might claim to be a demon, perhaps to add to the fear and so on. Likewise, there are powerful beings of good. They just happen to....not have a body anymore. Yes, you could call these beings demons or angels because of the role they play and what they actually are, but do the stereotypes exist--the winged, fanged, flying shadow nasty guys? Absolutely not. IMHO, as always. What makes you think that God and the Devil don't exist.Along with Heaven and Hell.Next thing you know,a terrible natural catastrophe will happen and the only person that dies is you,and then when your almost in Heaven,a giant hand from Hell will grab you and you will spend an eternity in Hell fucking Satan and getting pitchforks ramed up your ass and down your throat.L8r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 What makes you think that God and the Devil don't exist.Along with Heaven and Hell.Next thing you know,a terrible natural catastrophe will happen and the only person that dies is you,and then when your almost in Heaven,a giant hand from Hell will grab you and you will spend an eternity in Hell fucking Satan and getting pitchforks ramed up your ass and down your throat.L8r Well not everyone believes in God and Satan. Not everyone is a Christian or any religion dealing with God. I don't believe in it either. Heck, Buddhists and Wiccans don't believe in it either. So you cannot just go around saying we are going to hell just because we do not follow a certain religion. That is the reason why so many people rag on Christians and such. because of people like you go around trying to scare people that they are going to hell if they do not believe in YOUR God. Well we are sorry but some of us have different ideologies and beliefs. Sorry that we like to be individuals. If you have a problem with that, too DAMN bad...if the truth hurts wear a friggin' band-aid. 1 Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Well that just proves that you don't read from the bible.Tell me then who was it that created us,I mean all of us people.Answer the damn question.Trust me your going to regret the day you said that you never believed in God,and that goes to all of you.Well not everyone believes in God and Satan. Not everyone is a Christian or any religion dealing with God. I don't believe in it either. Heck, Buddhists and Wiccans don't believe in it either. So you cannot just go around saying we are going to hell just because we do not follow a certain religion. That is the reason why so many people rag on Christians and such. because of people like you go around trying to scare people that they are going to hell if they do not believe in YOUR God. Well we are sorry but some of us have different ideologies and beliefs. Sorry that we like to be individuals. If you have a problem with that, too DAMN bad...if the truth hurts wear a friggin' band-aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Well that just proves that you don't read from the bible.Tell me then who was it that created us,I mean all of us people.Answer the damn question.Trust me your going to regret the day you said that you never believed in God,and that goes to all of you. Did you read a damn thing I said? Even after I quoted it? How would you like it if I worshipped some superior God of some other religion and ran around saying your going to some eternal place to suffer for eternity if you don't beliveve in my deity? You would not like that would you? Now look at what the HELL you are doing. You are going around threatening people with your beliefs. Not all of us read the bible. Not all of us believe in God. Or heaven, hell, Satan, Adam, Eve, etc. GET OVER IT!!! This is America dammit and I am sick and tired of people like you who give religion a bad name by spewing your beliefs unjustly like propaganda! Freedom of religion ever heard of that? We can be buddhists, we can be wiccans, we can be atheists, we can be Hindu. Want to know why? because we have hat right to do so. We are not obligated to sit here and take "threats" from your religion. Do you see anyone else that believes in God here trying to scare and force people into believing in your God? NO! So kid, you might as well sit down and shut the fuck up because it is stupid uneducated fucks like you that make this world an already unpleasant place to live in. I am sorry for having a mind of my own. I am not going to belittle your religion but I WILL belittle YOU. You are no true follower of God. You are a representation of a person who does not have a mind of their own and an overwhelming amount of IGNORANCE and DISRESPECT. Keep your beliefs to yourself or at least display them in a non-abrasive way. You keep threatening someone that they are going to hell because they don't have YOUR mindset and you watch what happens. Someone is going to put you in your damn place, and trust me, you will WISH you was in hell. As for the origin of human beings, I believe in evolution. We came from a common primate ancestor which has diverged into several species that roman the earth now. Do I have the proof? No I do not, but I do read about it. I didn't study or find the fossils. Do YOU have proof that God created us other than the Bible? I am betting no. You ALSO read about the origin of how we came here. So DEAL WITH IT. We are all not going to follow your belief kid. Grow up. The way you are going about it, people with a will of their own are only going to look down upon you. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiaa89 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Demons. :o I don't believe it. I think the correct term for a DEMON would be "NO OTHER EXCUSE FOR BEING AN ASSHOLE". I'm gonna have to go with him on this one... Quote "Life's tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddo Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Well that just proves that you don't read from the bible.Tell me then who was it that created us,I mean all of us people.Answer the damn question.Trust me your going to regret the day you said that you never believed in God,and that goes to all of you. Threats will do nothing to further your religion or anyone elses. Looks like you need to take a chill pill. How would you like it if I worshipped some superior God of some other religion and ran around saying your going to some eternal place to suffer for eternity if you don't beliveve in my deity? You would not like that would you? Frankly Insect, I would be pretty pissed off if after all was said and done if you knew how to save me from an eternal place of suffering and you didn't ever at least discuss it with me and thuis I got to spend eternity in a horrible place while you got to spend it in paridise. As for the post- Yes, I do believe in Demons. I do believe that they can possess humans. Quote I'm trusted by more women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angie Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 You can believe in a god/goddess and not believe in the Devil. Same goes for angels, demons, and everything else. The devil, and demons, are creations of Christians. There are PLENTY of religions who believe in a god/goddess/higher being, but not demons or the devil or angel. That isn't to say there can't be "bad" spirits, as there are bad people. I DO believe in ghosts/spirits, I do believe in a higher being, but not the devil. But I suppose that goes along with not being a Christian. Well not everyone believes in God and Satan. Not everyone is a Christian or any religion dealing with God. I don't believe in it either. Heck, Buddhists and Wiccans don't believe in it either. So you cannot just go around saying we are going to hell just because we do not follow a certain religion. That is the reason why so many people rag on Christians and such. because of people like you go around trying to scare people that they are going to hell if they do not believe in YOUR God. Well we are sorry but some of us have different ideologies and beliefs Absolutely correct. One of my MANY issues with the Christian Church is that they recruit using the scare tactic. NO other religion that I have ever dealt with does that. And the fact that they have been oppressing people since they started not Jesus himself but some of his followers Do you have ANY idea how hard it is to leave the Christian Church? I was raised Catholic, and have known for about 10 years that it wasn't for me, and I didn't believe it. But I haven't completely left and found a new faith (though I have one I am leaning towards) because a part of me is STILL scared. That fear is waning as time goes on and I learn things on my own, but I am convinced that that is the reason they have SOOOO many followers. Because people are too scared to question things, let alone leave. Quote http://www.darwinawards.com/ http://www.snopes.com http://www.breakthechain.org STOP THE SPAM!! Click Me You Know You Want To Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 LOL!!! Yea but seriously, at least you don't sit there and try to scare people and ram your beliefs down someone's throat! That is ignorant, inconsiderate, and totally disrespectful. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switchblade Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Well this forum is called:Off Topic Forum,so apparentely I pissed you off hahaha .Where do you think the bible came from,who wrote it mister.Who is Jesus to you,huh mister.There is only 1 Almighty God,and you should believe in him.He can take your life away in less than a nanosecond.What makes you think that your supperior than our 1 God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw2747 Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Well this forum is called:Off Topic Forum,so apparentely I pissed you off hahaha .Where do you think the bible came from,who wrote it mister.Who is Jesus to you,huh mister.There is only 1 Almighty God,and you should believe in him.He can take your life away in less than a nanosecond.What makes you think that your supperior than our 1 God? You pissed me off? Hmmm, not exactly Mr. Ego. I am quite relaxed at the moment and not banging on the keyboard like a knuckledragger. YOU on the other hand are just annoying. You merely annoyed me so go grab yourself a medla and pat yourself on the back. You are just another religious fanatic spweing nonsense and trying to scare people into your beliefs. Does it ever occur to you there are other gods out there? You believe in what you want, and I belive in what I want. And that goes for anyone else here. Who wrote the bible? Ummm I have reason to believe that god did not chop down a tree and make the pages of a book so I am going to have to believe a man did it. Who is Jesus to me? A storybook character. (this isn't an insult for those of you religious folk out there) Oh and there are PLENTY of things that can take my life in a nanosecond, but I don't have to sit here living in fear of those things. I don't have to go around and tell everyone to believe in a God or else they will die. You are totally going about spreading your religion the wrong way. Threatening people that they will die if they don't follow YOUR belief? Dude, shut the FUCK up. I don't need to sit here and take orders from some fucking kid who cannot grasp a simple concept or keep his beliefs to himself. I will say this ONE LAST TIME...in fact I am going to type it so you can see it... EVERYONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BELIEVE IN THE SAME THING THAT YOU DO. WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT AND HAVE THE FREEDOM TO BELIEVE IN WHATEVER THE FUCK WE WANT TO BELIEVE IN!!! If for some stupid reason you cannot understand that, then I hope that you do not procreate because you have a severe lack of word comprehension. Now quit going around scaring and threatening people with your boorish demeanor. Oh and a final word, I never said I was better than your God. Get your head out your fucking ass kid. 1 Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Hmmm.... Okay, here goes... The concept of a small percentage of creation enjoying eternal reward and pleasure, while the majority of creation suffers eternal pain and suffering, is by far the most twisted concept of a potential God that I have ever heard and completely outside my ability to accept whatsoever. Could ANY parent out there stand and endure the screams of everlasting agony that they inflict upon their child? How utterly sadistic... If there is a God, and I won't know for sure until my Earth Suit unravels...I'm quite sure that violent image of God couldn't be further from the truth. Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cynthiaa89 Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Absolutely correct. One of my MANY issues with the Christian Church is that they recruit using the scare tactic. The sad thing is that this works... Quote "Life's tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogito Ergo Sum Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Okay...a little more... A Short Quiz: 1. How many boogie men have come out from under the bed in your lifetime? - ZERO? 2. How many people have you seen in real life talk in demon voices, spin their head around in a circle, and spit pea soup slime? - ZERO? 3. How many dead people have you seen come back from the dead? - ZERO? 4. How many ghosts and gholies have attacked you while walking outside at night? - ZERO? 5. How many people have you seen simply levitate above the ground and fly around the room? - ZERO? 6. How many times have you seen furniture shake violently while objects fly around the room on their own? - ZERO? And you believe in this sinister horrible mind control fiction based upon?... Look CAREFULLY at my signature line... "If repeated often enough, a lie will become the new truth". ...The Christian Church THRIVES on this concept... 1 Quote . I put no stock in religion. By the word "religion" I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much "religion" in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. WE'VE SPENT HOW MUCH IN IRAQ? www.costofwar.com - http://icasualties.org/oif/ - http://iraqbodycount.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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