Are There Muslims on the Moon?
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It is stuff like this that makes most people wonder what the **** is going on with our Government.
We have all these departments all spending money on things that have nothing to do with their respective areas. Playing diplomat with the Muslim world is not something our space program is supposed to be doing. The recent programs to return to the moon were canceled because of the cost but we have plenty of money to boost other Countries science programs just to kiss up to Muslims?
We have all these departments all spending money on things that have nothing to do with their respective areas. Playing diplomat with the Muslim world is not something our space program is supposed to be doing. The recent programs to return to the moon were canceled because of the cost but we have plenty of money to boost other Countries science programs just to kiss up to Muslims?
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NASA has no plans to go to the moon.
There's fukkall there for starters.
Get used to the fact that Islam and your brand
of Christianity are gonna have to find some middle ground.
With a tad of tolerance this is how it can work.
There's fukkall there for starters.
Get used to the fact that Islam and your brand
of Christianity are gonna have to find some middle ground.
With a tad of tolerance this is how it can work.
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I agree that this is a problem Muslims must deal with, but I don't think there is any real way we can "help". This is a cancer inside their ranks just like Christians during the dark ages had their own cancer within. Nothing changed with the Christians until other Christians stepped up and changed things from within. While almost all Muslims do not want to directly hurt the infidels, they at the same time feel compelled to not get in the way and even praise those who conduct 'martyrdom missions'.
"The Prophet said, 'Were it not for the believers who do not want me to leave them, I would certainly and always go forth in army units setting out in Allah's Cause. I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.'"
Nothing we do will ever increase or decrease this problem, as you already said, fellow Muslims are hurt more than the infidels, if they were only concerned with what we do then why hurt more of their own people than ours? Bill Clinton was about as soft on the Muslim world as any President could have been and at the end of that long 8 years of kissing azz we find out they had people here during most of his time in office training for 9/11.
We can't pacify this enemy, the best we can do is instill some respect for our ability to defend ourselves. That is why attacks on America all but stopped with Bush and why they are gaining speed with Obama. Like Bush or not they all knew he was willing to drop a bomb on anyone, that is power and while they hated Bush, they respected his power. Obama is weak, he is seen as weak, and they do not respect him because he has no power outside of the UN. They control the UN either directly or indirectly so they know there really is nothing Obama will be willing to do to preserve his political posturing with the UN and the world.
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I believe the knee-jerk reactions from right-wing fundamentalist christians are feeding both ends of the propaganda machine.
The town I'm leaving in the morning has forty nationalities, twelve religions, including muslims and they account for 28% of the population, and there is not a single account of secular or non-secular violence in the forty years since islamics started arriving. Check that link from my last post, Hugo.
Total integration, and the town is still welcoming islamic refugees from Burma, Afghanistan, China and Africa.
Tolerance seems to be the answer.
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Tolerance is almost always the answer. Has to be a two way street though, and unfortunately in the US there are way too many supposedly credible organizations like the NAACP, SPLC, Rainbow Coalition, National Action Network, Christian Coalition, La Raza etc... who make their living off of keeping people divided under the guise of working for tolerance.
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It is a two way street, while many of the most powerful forces for Muslims in Europe, America, and even Canada are under the control of Wahhabism. There is still a very strong movement to get sharia law elements applied in Canada family law, for example, in Canada their lamily law is so severely backed up they had to turn to local churches to help take some of the pressure off. Currently most big religions are allowed to administer family law "except Muslims" and they are pushing hard to get that restriction removed.
Most experts agree that sooner or later Canada will have to either expand their family law capacity and drop all religions from administering family law, or they will have to allow the Muslims to join in like Christians and Jewish people do.
So the two way street is very important, but we still get slapped in the face with stories like the guy who created the pro-muslim Bridges TV network "to show muslims in a positive light" who lives his life like an American, but once his wife asked for a divorce, he felt compelled to "honor kill" and chopped off her head.
But he is using the "battered spouse" defense in his case so maybe he is learning how to be an American, lol.
Most experts agree that sooner or later Canada will have to either expand their family law capacity and drop all religions from administering family law, or they will have to allow the Muslims to join in like Christians and Jewish people do.
So the two way street is very important, but we still get slapped in the face with stories like the guy who created the pro-muslim Bridges TV network "to show muslims in a positive light" who lives his life like an American, but once his wife asked for a divorce, he felt compelled to "honor kill" and chopped off her head.
But he is using the "battered spouse" defense in his case so maybe he is learning how to be an American, lol.