AT&T SCREWS ITS CUSTOMERS!

As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.

DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!

I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL, a

personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they dropped

the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to

find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude is

the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires at

least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service on

Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have

seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!

This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service, and

website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A KNIFE

IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new

email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and

ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP

entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address, IDs,

settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to AT&T

as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup

backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to Covad

DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!

For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of all. I

had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -

top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL

unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of webhosting

and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to the

new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it took

alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50 worth

of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other printed

materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many contacts.

I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website

links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

The forced "migration" process from AT&T was complex and time-consuming, not

helped by the unavailability for several days of the means to do so at their

website where AT&T stated it would be. Instructions were vague and

non-specific, and good luck reaching them by phone! As the service cutoff

date approached, nothing could be done due to this and to AT&Ts

inaccessibility. Then, one day after completing part of the migration

process, CUTOFF! I had NO SERVICE - no web, no email, no DSL, no dialup,

nothing! Finally after hours of effort,I was able to establish my DSL

service. My Outlook Express was unable to download email until I corrected

that too - with no help from these corporate cretins that couldn't care

less!

Now, for the same monthly price as before (under a 1 year contract with a

BIG termination fee if you want out), I have DSL, web, and email. But no

dialup backup, Usenet, or website as before. The website costs extra now.

And will AT&T tech support improve? I wouldn't hold my breath!

The substantial expenses and inconveniences inflicted by this AT&T

customer-screwing is something for which a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT would be

appropriate, but no doubt the agreement you are forced into when buying

their service protects them from responsibility. Clearly AT&T, with typical

mega-corpseration greed and arrogance, cares little for their home and small

business customers. This sort of thing will continue as long as they can

perpetrate such actions without being held accountable, and consumers and

businesses will remain at their mercy.

When you vote, keep in mind it is the Republican-Conservatives that protect

these mega-corpserate bullies and allow them to run amok, unregulated, and

perpetrate such consumer-screwing actions as this.

BOYCOTT AT&T!

YAWN

"Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

news:hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>

> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

<crap cut>

"Trevor" <not_here@thanks.com> wrote in message

news:81pi73Fq69U1@mid.individual.net...

> YAWN

>

> "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

> news:hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

>> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>>

>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>

HO HUM!

Another troll with nothing intelligent to say.

One more for the killfile!

"Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

news:hp85ev$nmm$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> "Trevor" <not_here@thanks.com> wrote in message

> news:81pi73Fq69U1@mid.individual.net...

>> YAWN

>>

>> "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

>> news:hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

>>> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>>>

>>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>>

>

> HO HUM!

> Another troll with nothing intelligent to say.

> One more for the killfile!

So says the whiner cross-posting his woes to non-AT&T related newsgroups.

In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>,

"Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote:

> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

I am AT&T-free in my life for over two years now, and have no desire (or

need!) to go back.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article<hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>,

> "Whistleblower"<Justice@USA.con> wrote:

>

>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>

> I am AT&T-free in my life for over two years now, and have no desire (or

> need!) to go back.

I have the Same opinion of Comshaft.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:26:58 -0400, "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con>

wrote:

>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.

Nobody really cares...

A_C

In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower wrote:

>As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

>they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>

>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>

>AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.

>DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!

>

>I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL, a

>personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they dropped

>the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to

>find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude is

>the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires at

>least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service on

>Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have

>seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!

>

>This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service, and

>website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A KNIFE

>IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a

cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is

appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that

I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

>They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new

>email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and

>ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP

>entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address, IDs,

>settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to AT&T

>as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup

>backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to Covad

>DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!

>

>For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of all. I

>had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -

>top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL

>unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of webhosting

>and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to the

>new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it took

>alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50 worth

>of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other printed

>materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many contacts.

>I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website

>links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business

models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even

in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good

enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to

me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms

of rental renewal.)

(At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material

that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me

to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be

usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem

service or the like.)

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

>> Is eSATA Hot Swapable Plug-n-Play like USB?

>>

>> ~alan

>Yes.

Thats' not entirely true

From what I have read, both the the SATA controller and the drivers must support it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/206783-32-sata-swap

In case one or both don't a utility call HOTSWAP is mentioned. I use DEVCON myself.

I have a ESATA drive that does not hot swap on my pc's with ASUS MB's using XP or WIN7, but does on other PC's. That seems

to support the info found at the above link.

hth.

cj

"Agent_C" <agent-c-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message

news:snkfr55po5r2ffnibsf5i9ql64g5pe3873@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:26:58 -0400, "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con>

> wrote:

>

>>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>

> Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.

>

> Nobody really cares...

>

> A_C

YOU may not care, intolerant jerk, but I don't give a damn. I have a right

to speak my mind on a public forum, and that's exactly what I'll do.

No one forces you to read what I say - so DON'T.

"Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message

news:slrnhrgaar.qeo.don@manx.misty.com...

> In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower wrote:

>>As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

>>they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>>

>>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>>

>>AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.

>>DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!

>>

>>I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL,

>>a

>>personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they dropped

>>the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to

>>find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude

>>is

>>the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires

>>at

>>least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service

>>on

>>Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have

>>seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!

>>

>>This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service, and

>>website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A KNIFE

>>IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

> I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a

> cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is

> appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that

> I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they

will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes

to do so.

>>They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new

>>email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and

>>ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP

>>entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address,

>>IDs,

>>settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to

>>AT&T

>>as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup

>>backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to

>>Covad

>>DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!

>>

>>For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of all.

>>I

>>had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -

>>top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL

>>unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of webhosting

>>and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to

>>the

>>new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it

>>took

>>alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50

>>worth

>>of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other

>>printed

>>materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many

>>contacts.

>>I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website

>>links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

> It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business

> models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even

> in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good

> enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to

> me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms

> of rental renewal.)

Good point - one that I am taking and now acting on.

> (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material

> that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me

> to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be

> usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem

> service or the like.)

>

> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

In article <hpabhs$ugt$1@news.eternal-september.org>,

"Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote:

> > Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.

> >

> > Nobody really cares...

> >

> > A_C

>

> YOU may not care, intolerant jerk, but I don't give a damn. I have a right

> to speak my mind on a public forum, and that's exactly what I'll do.

> No one forces you to read what I say - so DON'T.

And I have a right to call you a fuckwad in a public forum, and that's

exactly what I'll do.

And I'll also ask when you stopped beating your wife.

No one forces you to read it--so DON'T.

So I really have to ask. What the fuck is the point of posting this here?

Does anyone here really care about some isp problems that YOU may be having

when others are clearly not! This is after all a windows newsgroup not a

AT&T or a ISP newsgroup is it not? I personally have had AT&T for my home

phone ,DSL and cell service for over 10 years even though it used to be SBC

(home) SBC Global for DSL and Cingular for cell. Still I have never

experienced the slightest problem with any of them and if I do I make a

phone call to them and it is taken care of with either a price reduction a

increase in service or a benefit of some kind to me. no complaints at all.

"Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

news:hpabr9$oj$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> "Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message

> news:slrnhrgaar.qeo.don@manx.misty.com...

>> In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower

>> wrote:

>>>As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

>>>they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>>>

>>>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>>>

>>>AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.

>>>DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!

>>>

>>>I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email, DSL,

>>>a

>>>personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they

>>>dropped

>>>the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were forced to

>>>find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer attitude

>>>is

>>>the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically requires

>>>at

>>>least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support service

>>>on

>>>Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should have

>>>seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!

>>>

>>>This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service,

>>>and

>>>website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A

>>>KNIFE

>>>IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

>

>> I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a

>> cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is

>> appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that

>> I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

>

> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time

> they will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy

> purposes to do so.

>

>>>They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new

>>>email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email address and

>>>ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP

>>>entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address,

>>>IDs,

>>>settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to

>>>AT&T

>>>as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup

>>>backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to

>>>Covad

>>>DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!

>>>

>>>For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of

>>>all. I

>>>had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search engines -

>>>top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL

>>>unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of

>>>webhosting

>>>and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to

>>>the

>>>new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it

>>>took

>>>alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50

>>>worth

>>>of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other

>>>printed

>>>materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many

>>>contacts.

>>>I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many website

>>>links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

>

>> It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business

>> models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even

>> in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good

>> enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to

>> me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms

>> of rental renewal.)

>

> Good point - one that I am taking and now acting on.

>

>> (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material

>> that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me

>> to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be

>> usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem

>> service or the like.)

>>

>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

>

>

Drew wrote:

> So I really have to ask. What the fuck is the point of posting this here?

> Does anyone here really care about some isp problems that YOU may be having

> when others are clearly not! This is after all a windows newsgroup not a

> AT&T or a ISP newsgroup is it not? I personally have had AT&T for my home

> phone ,DSL and cell service for over 10 years even though it used to be SBC

> (home) SBC Global for DSL and Cingular for cell. Still I have never

> experienced the slightest problem with any of them and if I do I make a

> phone call to them and it is taken care of with either a price reduction a

> increase in service or a benefit of some kind to me. no complaints at all.

I will 2nd the motion

>

> "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

> news:hpabr9$oj$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>> "Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message

>> news:slrnhrgaar.qeo.don@manx.misty.com...

>>> In article <hp81ad$sek$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Whistleblower

>>> wrote:

>>>> As they screw over their ISP customers, you can be sure sooner or later

>>>> they'll screw their cellphone customers too!

>>>>

>>>> BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>>>>

>>>> AT&T exemplifies screw-the-consumer corporate arrogance at its worst.

>>>> DO NOT PATRONIZE AT&T or YOU'LL REGRET IT!

>>>>

>>>> I had an ISP service package with AT&T Worldnet that included email,

>>>> DSL,

>>>> a

>>>> personal website on their server, and Usenet access. Suddenly they

>>>> dropped

>>>> the Usenet service, with no compensation to customers that were

>>>> forced to

>>>> find another source. Another example of their screw-the-customer

>>>> attitude

>>>> is

>>>> the fact that reaching a tech support person by phone typically

>>>> requires

>>>> at

>>>> least a 20 minute wait on hold. AT&T once had a good tech support

>>>> service

>>>> on

>>>> Usenet, but dropped that too and became very hard to reach. I should

>>>> have

>>>> seen the writing on the wall and dropped AT&T back then!

>>>>

>>>> This March 2nd I get an email that AT&T Worldnet service, DSL service,

>>>> and

>>>> website hosting will no longer be available effective March 31st - A

>>>> KNIFE

>>>> IN THE BACK to all their small business and individual customers!

>>

>>> I sympathize with such bad news, and I deal with AT&T only for a

>>> cellphone service that they bought from Cingular, and AT&T so far is

>>> appearing to me to largely continue Cingular's practices in a way that

>>> I am finding at least mostly reasonable.

>>

>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily

>> advertising

>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time

>> they will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy

>> purposes to do so.

>>

>>>> They arranged a deal with Covad to take over the DSL service, and a new

>>>> email/web service that allows you to keep your existing email

>>>> address and

>>>> ID. You could elect to use AT&T for dialup only, or go to another ISP

>>>> entirely. In effect, if you wanted to keep your present email address,

>>>> IDs,

>>>> settings, and DSL, you are FORCED to accept Covad and still be tied to

>>>> AT&T

>>>> as your ISP. Before, if your DSL service went down you had free dialup

>>>> backup, but no longer. Dialup now costs extra. And since converting to

>>>> Covad

>>>> DSL about a week ago, I have already had a service failure!

>>>>

>>>> For a business, the website customer-screwing by AT&T is the worst of

>>>> all. I

>>>> had my site for years and it had a high ranking with the search

>>>> engines -

>>>> top10. Now I have been FORCED to move it to another host with a new URL

>>>> unknown to the search engines. My initial outlay for 3 years of

>>>> webhosting

>>>> and a domain was over $150. Fortunately I was able to upload my site to

>>>> the

>>>> new host without the typical professional fee of $250 to do so, but it

>>>> took

>>>> alot of my time. In addition, I'll have to toss and replace about $50

>>>> worth

>>>> of business cards with my old URL web address on them, replace other

>>>> printed

>>>> materials with the old URL, change many documents, and inform many

>>>> contacts.

>>>> I will inevitably lose business because the old URL, now in many

>>>> website

>>>> links and hard-copy publications, has become useless.

>>

>>> It strongly appears to me that those with businesses whose business

>>> models depend on a domain or e-mail address advertized so much as even

>>> in business cards, need to have domain names that they paid for good

>>> enough for e-mail addresses @own-domain. (Even though it appears to

>>> me that one rents rather than owns a domain, but usually with easy terms

>>> of rental renewal.)

>>

>> Good point - one that I am taking and now acting on.

>>

>>> (At this point, I think enough said, in part from following material

>>> that I snipped out including stuff on DSL service, which appears to me

>>> to be a mere full step above "dialup", as in appearing to me to be

>>> usually cheaper/lesser service than even mere 5-6 mbit/sec cable-modem

>>> service or the like.)

>>>

>>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

>>

>>

"Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con> wrote in message

news:hpabhs$ugt$1@news.eternal-september.org...

> "Agent_C" <agent-c-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message

> news:snkfr55po5r2ffnibsf5i9ql64g5pe3873@4ax.com...

>> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:26:58 -0400, "Whistleblower" <Justice@USA.con>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>BEWARE OF and AVOID doing business with AT&T!

>>

>> Will you shut the fuck up already? We know; you hate AT&T.

>>

>> Nobody really cares...

>>

>> A_C

>

> YOU may not care, intolerant jerk, but I don't give a damn. I have a right

> to speak my mind on a public forum, and that's exactly what I'll do.

> No one forces you to read what I say - so DON'T.

>

You know, I've seen you call others Troll on this forum. They are no worse

than you are.

On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they

> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes

> to do so.

And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

already told you was a bad idea.

DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue

offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,

what is your complaint?

Bill

Bill wrote:

> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they

>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes

>> to do so.

>

> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

> already told you was a bad idea.

>

> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>

> BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue

> offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,

> what is your complaint?

>

Terms and conditions?

LMAO.

You are assuming that people read that.

Marketing a product depends on that not happening.

I myself like AT&T ... they perform the services I require within the

skills possessed by humans.

The services provided by monkies would be slightly worse.

--

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,

Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they

>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes

>> to do so.

>

>And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

>done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

>already told you was a bad idea.

>

>DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of DSL,

and it is slow .

>BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue

>offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,

>what is your complaint?

>

>Bill

krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>

>> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

>>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

>>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they

>>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes

>>> to do so.

>>

>> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

>> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

>> already told you was a bad idea.

>>

>> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>

> Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of DSL,

> and it is slow .

Hang in there,, Obama will Save you

>

>> BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue

>> offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,

>> what is your complaint?

>>

>> Bill

On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:47:47 -0400, Mr doe <Mrdoe@blowfish.net> wrote:

>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>>

>>> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>>>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily advertising

>>>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate people -

>>>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time they

>>>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy purposes

>>>> to do so.

>>>

>>> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>>> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

>>> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

>>> already told you was a bad idea.

>>>

>>> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>>

>> Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of DSL,

>> and it is slow .

>

>

>Hang in there,, Obama will Save you

He's going to pay my mortgage and electric bill too, right?

>>> BTW, did their terms and conditions say that they had to continue

>>> offering the service? Did they do anything in violation of it? If not,

>>> what is your complaint?

>>>

>>> Bill

<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message

news:5nclr5tiqc8iki0mnubfib0vhqrkksnaau@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:47:47 -0400, Mr doe <Mrdoe@blowfish.net> wrote:

>

>>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>>>>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily

>>>>> advertising

>>>>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate

>>>>> people -

>>>>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time

>>>>> they

>>>>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy

>>>>> purposes

>>>>> to do so.

>>>>

>>>> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>>>> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

>>>> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

>>>> already told you was a bad idea.

>>>>

>>>> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>>>

>>> Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of

>>> DSL,

>>> and it is slow .

>>

>>

>>Hang in there,, Obama will Save you

>

> He's going to pay my mortgage and electric bill too, right?

You need to send in the "Request to Pay Mortgage and Electric Bill"

Government Form #G800-43-A-7665555. Fill it out in triplicate, make sure to

remove the carbon paper before sending it in.

No need to currently pay mortgage or any other utilities. Within 18-32

weeks, when approved, all payments will be made, retroactively.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:48:26 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com> wrote:

>

>

><krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message

>news:5nclr5tiqc8iki0mnubfib0vhqrkksnaau@4ax.com...

>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:47:47 -0400, Mr doe <Mrdoe@blowfish.net> wrote:

>>

>>>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>>>>>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily

>>>>>> advertising

>>>>>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate

>>>>>> people -

>>>>>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in time

>>>>>> they

>>>>>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy

>>>>>> purposes

>>>>>> to do so.

>>>>>

>>>>> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>>>>> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could have

>>>>> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others have

>>>>> already told you was a bad idea.

>>>>>

>>>>> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>>>>

>>>> Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of

>>>> DSL,

>>>> and it is slow .

>>>

>>>

>>>Hang in there,, Obama will Save you

>>

>> He's going to pay my mortgage and electric bill too, right?

>

>You need to send in the "Request to Pay Mortgage and Electric Bill"

>Government Form #G800-43-A-7665555. Fill it out in triplicate, make sure to

>remove the carbon paper before sending it in.

>

>No need to currently pay mortgage or any other utilities. Within 18-32

>weeks, when approved, all payments will be made, retroactively.

That's not a bad turn-around time at all. It'll take that long for the USPS

to deliver the forms, unless they're returned for insufficient postage because

of the three rate increases while en route.

<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message

news:rnbnr5libf7ot2ud6ktjid69kaelr4mhie@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:48:26 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>><krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message

>>news:5nclr5tiqc8iki0mnubfib0vhqrkksnaau@4ax.com...

>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:47:47 -0400, Mr doe <Mrdoe@blowfish.net> wrote:

>>>

>>>>krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>>>>>>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily

>>>>>>> advertising

>>>>>>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate

>>>>>>> people -

>>>>>>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have, in

>>>>>>> time

>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy

>>>>>>> purposes

>>>>>>> to do so.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>>>>>> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you could

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which others

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> already told you was a bad idea.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>>>>>

>>>>> Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of

>>>>> DSL,

>>>>> and it is slow .

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>Hang in there,, Obama will Save you

>>>

>>> He's going to pay my mortgage and electric bill too, right?

>>

>>You need to send in the "Request to Pay Mortgage and Electric Bill"

>>Government Form #G800-43-A-7665555. Fill it out in triplicate, make sure

>>to

>>remove the carbon paper before sending it in.

>>

>>No need to currently pay mortgage or any other utilities. Within 18-32

>>weeks, when approved, all payments will be made, retroactively.

>

> That's not a bad turn-around time at all. It'll take that long for the

> USPS

> to deliver the forms, unless they're returned for insufficient postage

> because

> of the three rate increases while en route.

LOL! How true!

Bill Yanaire wrote:

>

>

> <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message

> news:rnbnr5libf7ot2ud6ktjid69kaelr4mhie@4ax.com...

>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 13:48:26 -0700, "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>>>

>>>

>>> <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message

>>> news:5nclr5tiqc8iki0mnubfib0vhqrkksnaau@4ax.com...

>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:47:47 -0400, Mr doe <Mrdoe@blowfish.net> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:28:53 -0400, Bill<billrubin@prodigy.net>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On 4/4/2010 11:39 AM, Whistleblower wrote:

>>>>>>>> Of course they are being reasonable - for now. AT&T is heavily

>>>>>>>> advertising

>>>>>>>> their profitable cellphone service, and doesn't want to alienate

>>>>>>>> people -

>>>>>>>> yet. But if they will screw their ISP customers, as they have,

>>>>>>>> in time

>>>>>>>> they

>>>>>>>> will do the same to cellphone customers when it serves their greedy

>>>>>>>> purposes

>>>>>>>> to do so.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> And if they do, people will just move to another provider and takwe

>>>>>>> their phone numbers with them. Something similar to what you

>>>>>>> could have

>>>>>>> done had you not been dependent on their ISP address, which

>>>>>>> others have

>>>>>>> already told you was a bad idea.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> DSL is old technology anyway. You should move to fiber or cable.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Nice plan if you can get it. I'm lucky I can get the slowest grade of

>>>>>> DSL,

>>>>>> and it is slow .

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Hang in there,, Obama will Save you

>>>>

>>>> He's going to pay my mortgage and electric bill too, right?

>>>

>>> You need to send in the "Request to Pay Mortgage and Electric Bill"

>>> Government Form #G800-43-A-7665555. Fill it out in triplicate, make

>>> sure to

>>> remove the carbon paper before sending it in.

>>>

>>> No need to currently pay mortgage or any other utilities. Within 18-32

>>> weeks, when approved, all payments will be made, retroactively.

>>

>> That's not a bad turn-around time at all. It'll take that long for the

>> USPS

>> to deliver the forms, unless they're returned for insufficient postage

>> because

>> of the three rate increases while en route.

>

> LOL! How true!

>

>

>

May also take a little longer Due to the elimination of Saturday Deliveries.