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Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him To Be
Too Intellectual To Be President?

By John W. Dean

Created Mar 22 2008 - 11:14am


By way of disclaimer, I do not have a favored candidate in the 2008
Democratic nomination contest. But I do appreciate the new (or perhaps
simply long-forgotten) and higher levels to which Senator Barack Obama is
taking political discourse. His historic speech on race [1] this week, for
example, was as smart as they come.

There was a time in this country when political debate was actually rather
sophisticated, but that was long ago (for as mass media grew, the level of
debate went down). Only time will tell, however, if Obama's powerful speech
was also politically smart.

Obama Speech Was Frank, Direct, and Intelligent - But Was It Pitched to Too
Advanced an Audience?

With his speech addressing race in America, Obama has done something that
few politicians are willing to do: speak with compelling intellectual
honesty. Rather than fuzzy-up difficult and troubling questions about race,
he confronted them directly. Rather than avoiding issues that are typically
ignored, he brought them forward for public discussion. Most strikingly, he
did this with nuance, great tact, and conspicuous intelligence.

Many commentators were struck by the level of erudition Senator Obama
employed in his speech. For example, Newsweek's Howard Fineman asked, "Did
the blockheads understand it?" Not wanting to sound elitist, Howard quickly
added that of course, everyone is a bit of a blockhead. I do not know if
everyone understood the speech or not, but I do know that it is a pleasure
to have a candidate running for the highest office in the land who is not
only not trying to pretend to be dumb and inarticulate but rather willingly
showing he is, in fact, smart as hell.

Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech was not unlike his insightful and
somewhat erudite books - Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of Hope - with
one large exception: Relatively few people will read Obama's books but many
have been (or may be) exposed to his historic speech.

Computers have made it rather simple to determine the intelligence or grade
level of a speech by measuring it with the Flesch-Kincaid test [2], which is
found on the Tools/Options menu of Microsoft Word. This widely-employed
measurement device determines the degree of difficulty of the written (and
spoken) word.

Enterprising linguists and others have applied the test to a wide variety of
material. For instance, the folks at youDictionary [3] have tested the
inaugural addresses of presidents. They discovered that no president since
Woodrow Wilson has come close to delivering speeches pitched at a 12th grade
level. Bush II's first inaugural address was at a 7.5 grade level, which
ranked him near Eisenhower's second address (7.5), Nixon's first (7.6),
LBJ's only (7.0), and FDR's fourth (8.1). Clinton's two addresses, by
contrast, scored at the 9th grade level (9.4 and 8.8 respectively).

I tested Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech and it scores at a 10.5 grade
level, which by current standards is in the stratosphere. But maybe he was
being too smart to win the presidency.

Republicans Have Dumbed Down the Presidency

Hillary Clinton - who is every bit Obama's intellectual equal - is
increasingly running against his eloquence, and claiming that eloquence is
all he has and that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief and
solve real-world problems. During and since the Ohio and Texas primaries,
I've noticed that Senator Clinton has been showing less and less of her own
conspicuous wonkiness and brain-power, a strategy that seems to be working
to her advantage.

Senator Clinton's new populism has not become anti-intellectual (yet), but
she surely knows that her husband hid his intelligence during his
presidential campaigns, playing up his good ole boy roots rather than his
Yale/Oxford credentials. Savvy Democrats understand they cannot win the
White House by appearing smarter than their GOP opponent.

This is not a cynical observation, but rather a factual one. Republicans
have spent the past half century dumbing-down the American presidency, for
it has helped them win the White House Colleen Shogan, wearing her political
scientist hat [4], has assembled epigrammatic case studies demonstrating the
effectiveness of the anti-intellectualism of Republican presidents Dwight
Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.

For example, when Dwight Eisenhower ran against Illinois Governor Adlai
Stevenson (in 1952 and 1956), Eisenhower ignored the fact that he had been
first in his class at West Point and president of Columbia University.
Meanwhile, his surrogates portrayed Stevenson as an "egghead" intellectual,
which was untrue but easy to do given Stevenson's remarkably eloquent
speaking style. (In fact, Stevenson had flunked out of Harvard Law School,
although he later graduated from Northwestern Law School.) In office, too,
Eisenhower governed with a "hidden hand," continuing to hide his
intelligence.

Reagan was seen as an "amiable dunce," and history is still not sure if his
Alzheimer's condition took hold well before he left office. Yet his
collected letters demonstrate more thoughtfulness and policy savvy, at least
earlier in his life, than many suspected. George Bush reminded Yale students
when visiting his alma mater that "to the C students - I say, you, too, can
be President of the United States." In contrast, rival John Kerry's campaign
(mistakenly it now seems) had taken pains to portray him as highly
intelligent - yet Kerry's Yale grades were just as weak as Bush's. The
putative GOP nominee for 2008, John McCain, follows in the Republican
tradition of anti-intellectualism, as the fifth man from the bottom of his
Naval Academy graduating class.

Increasingly, conservatives seek to characterize liberals as latte-drinking,
white-wine sipping, Volvo-driving, intellectual elitists with whom no real
American would want to spend time, for they are too smug and superior to
truly understand others outside their circle. Conservatives may appreciate
intelligence but not intellectuals and their kind, and as the Republican
Party has become more conservative, its anti-intellectualism has become more
pronounced. The reason: It wins elections.

Hopefully Obama Will Not Shift His Strategy toward Playing Dumb

Senator Obama's smart speech on race is true to his campaign theme of
"change," for he is departing from the contemporary, Republican-created norm
of Forrest Gump presidential politics. Do Americans really want the dumbest
candidate answering the phone at three o'clock in the morning? Of course
not.

While the correlation between Presidents' successfully leading the nation
and their intelligence cannot be easily measured, University of California
psychologist Dean Keith Simonton has examined this question in his study
"Presidential IQ, Openness, Intellectual Brilliance, and Leadership:
Estimates and Correlations for 42 U.S. Chief Executives" (partially
available online [5]).

Using complex statistical and analytical tools, Professor Simonton has
estimated the IQs of all our presidents. For example, for the last sixteen
presidents he estimated (and I have rounded his figures) the following IQs:
Wilson (155), Harding (140), Coolidge (142), Hoover (142), F. Roosevelt
(151), Truman (140), Eisenhower (145), Kennedy (160), L. Johnson (141),
Nixon (143), Ford (140), Carter (157), Reagan (142), G. H. W. Bush (143),
Clinton (159), and G. W. Bush (139). With the exception of LBJ, the
Democrats have provided the country with much higher wattage than the
Republicans. But clearly, none of these men are stupid.

Let's hope that Senator Obama continues to be willing to publicly perform at
his intelligence level. Perhaps he will trust voters to realize that the key
criterion to serve in the highest office should not be which candidate is
the person with whom you would most enjoy having a beer. To the contrary,
presidents should not be encouraging C students to continue to earn Cs so
they can become president. Presidents should be telling all Americans that
we can do better - which is one of the core points in Obama's message.

Anti-intellectual Republican presidents have led this nation into a new age
of unreason, as former Vice President Al Gore argued in The Assault on
Reason (2007) and more recently, Susan Jacoby has reported in The Age of
Unreason [6] (2008). As Senator Obama campaigns, he can truly change America
by simply refusing to play dumb. That strategy, if Obama continues it, may
turn out to be not only courageous but also wise, for it is very possible
that, after so many years, Americans are tired of having their innate
intelligence insulted by their presidential candidates.
_______



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Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107

"A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their
government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are
suffering deeply in spirit,
and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public
debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at
stake."
-Thomas Jefferson
 
"GatherNoMoss" <saints2060@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 11:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him To
> Be
> Too Intellectual To Be President?



No.

But it did reveal you to be too stupid to know that he didn't write
the speech.
-------------------

Where did you see that, on FOX?
That's funny. Know why? Because you think you just said something insightful
and intelligent, yet you don't seem to know Obama picks his speeches
himself.
 
"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 10:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him To
> Be
> Too Intellectual To Be President?
>
> By John W. Dean
>
> Created Mar 22 2008 - 11:14am
>
> By way of disclaimer, I do not have a favored candidate in the 2008
> Democratic nomination contest. But I do appreciate the new (or perhaps
> simply long-forgotten) and higher levels to which Senator Barack Obama is
> taking political discourse. His historic speech on race [1] this week, for
> example, was as smart as they come.
>
> There was a time in this country when political debate was actually rather
> sophisticated, but that was long ago (for as mass media grew, the level of
> debate went down). Only time will tell, however, if Obama's powerful
> speech
> was also politically smart.
>
> Obama Speech Was Frank, Direct, and Intelligent - But Was It Pitched to
> Too
> Advanced an Audience?
>
> With his speech addressing race in America, Obama has done something that
> few politicians are willing to do: speak with compelling intellectual
> honesty. Rather than fuzzy-up difficult and troubling questions about
> race,
> he confronted them directly. Rather than avoiding issues that are
> typically
> ignored, he brought them forward for public discussion. Most strikingly,
> he
> did this with nuance, great tact, and conspicuous intelligence.
>
> Many commentators were struck by the level of erudition Senator Obama
> employed in his speech. For example, Newsweek's Howard Fineman asked, "Did
> the blockheads understand it?" Not wanting to sound elitist, Howard
> quickly
> added that of course, everyone is a bit of a blockhead. I do not know if
> everyone understood the speech or not, but I do know that it is a pleasure
> to have a candidate running for the highest office in the land who is not
> only not trying to pretend to be dumb and inarticulate but rather
> willingly
> showing he is, in fact, smart as hell.
>
> Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech was not unlike his insightful and
> somewhat erudite books - Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of Hope -
> with
> one large exception: Relatively few people will read Obama's books but
> many
> have been (or may be) exposed to his historic speech.
>
> Computers have made it rather simple to determine the intelligence or
> grade
> level of a speech by measuring it with the Flesch-Kincaid test [2], which
> is
> found on the Tools/Options menu of Microsoft Word. This widely-employed
> measurement device determines the degree of difficulty of the written (and
> spoken) word.
>
> Enterprising linguists and others have applied the test to a wide variety
> of
> material. For instance, the folks at youDictionary [3] have tested the
> inaugural addresses of presidents. They discovered that no president since
> Woodrow Wilson has come close to delivering speeches pitched at a 12th
> grade
> level. Bush II's first inaugural address was at a 7.5 grade level, which
> ranked him near Eisenhower's second address (7.5), Nixon's first (7.6),
> LBJ's only (7.0), and FDR's fourth (8.1). Clinton's two addresses, by
> contrast, scored at the 9th grade level (9.4 and 8.8 respectively).
>
> I tested Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech and it scores at a 10.5
> grade
> level, which by current standards is in the stratosphere. But maybe he was
> being too smart to win the presidency.
>
> Republicans Have Dumbed Down the Presidency
>
> Hillary Clinton - who is every bit Obama's intellectual equal - is
> increasingly running against his eloquence, and claiming that eloquence is
> all he has and that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief and
> solve real-world problems. During and since the Ohio and Texas primaries,
> I've noticed that Senator Clinton has been showing less and less of her
> own
> conspicuous wonkiness and brain-power, a strategy that seems to be working
> to her advantage.
>
> Senator Clinton's new populism has not become anti-intellectual (yet), but
> she surely knows that her husband hid his intelligence during his
> presidential campaigns, playing up his good ole boy roots rather than his
> Yale/Oxford credentials. Savvy Democrats understand they cannot win the
> White House by appearing smarter than their GOP opponent.
>
> This is not a cynical observation, but rather a factual one. Republicans
> have spent the past half century dumbing-down the American presidency, for
> it has helped them win the White House Colleen Shogan, wearing her
> political
> scientist hat [4], has assembled epigrammatic case studies demonstrating
> the
> effectiveness of the anti-intellectualism of Republican presidents Dwight
> Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.
>
> For example, when Dwight Eisenhower ran against Illinois Governor Adlai
> Stevenson (in 1952 and 1956), Eisenhower ignored the fact that he had been
> first in his class at West Point and president of Columbia University.
> Meanwhile, his surrogates portrayed Stevenson as an "egghead"
> intellectual,
> which was untrue but easy to do given Stevenson's remarkably eloquent
> speaking style. (In fact, Stevenson had flunked out of Harvard Law School,
> although he later graduated from Northwestern Law School.) In office, too,
> Eisenhower governed with a "hidden hand," continuing to hide his
> intelligence.
>
> Reagan was seen as an "amiable dunce," and history is still not sure if
> his
> Alzheimer's condition took hold well before he left office. Yet his
> collected letters demonstrate more thoughtfulness and policy savvy, at
> least
> earlier in his life, than many suspected. George Bush reminded Yale
> students
> when visiting his alma mater that "to the C students - I say, you, too,
> can
> be President of the United States." In contrast, rival John Kerry's
> campaign
> (mistakenly it now seems) had taken pains to portray him as highly
> intelligent - yet Kerry's Yale grades were just as weak as Bush's. The
> putative GOP nominee for 2008, John McCain, follows in the Republican
> tradition of anti-intellectualism, as the fifth man from the bottom of his
> Naval Academy graduating class.
>
> Increasingly, conservatives seek to characterize liberals as
> latte-drinking,
> white-wine sipping, Volvo-driving, intellectual elitists with whom no real
> American would want to spend time, for they are too smug and superior to
> truly understand others outside their circle. Conservatives may appreciate
> intelligence but not intellectuals and their kind, and as the Republican
> Party has become more conservative, its anti-intellectualism has become
> more
> pronounced. The reason: It wins elections.
>
> Hopefully Obama Will Not Shift His Strategy toward Playing Dumb
>
> Senator Obama's smart speech on race is true to his campaign theme of
> "change," for he is departing from the contemporary, Republican-created
> norm
> of Forrest Gump presidential politics. Do Americans really want the
> dumbest
> candidate answering the phone at three o'clock in the morning? Of course
> not.
>
> While the correlation between Presidents' successfully leading the nation
> and their intelligence cannot be easily measured, University of California
> psychologist Dean Keith Simonton has examined this question in his study
> "Presidential IQ, Openness, Intellectual Brilliance, and Leadership:
> Estimates and Correlations for 42 U.S. Chief Executives" (partially
> available online [5]).
>
> Using complex statistical and analytical tools, Professor Simonton has
> estimated the IQs of all our presidents. For example, for the last sixteen
> presidents he estimated (and I have rounded his figures) the following
> IQs:
> Wilson (155), Harding (140), Coolidge (142), Hoover (142), F. Roosevelt
> (151), Truman (140), Eisenhower (145), Kennedy (160), L. Johnson (141),
> Nixon (143), Ford (140), Carter (157), Reagan (142), G. H. W. Bush (143),
> Clinton (159), and G. W. Bush (139). With the exception of LBJ, the
> Democrats have provided the country with much higher wattage than the
> Republicans. But clearly, none of these men are stupid.
>
> Let's hope that Senator Obama continues to be willing to publicly perform
> at
> his intelligence level. Perhaps he will trust voters to realize that the
> key
> criterion to serve in the highest office should not be which candidate is
> the person with whom you would most enjoy having a beer. To the contrary,
> presidents should not be encouraging C students to continue to earn Cs so
> they can become president. Presidents should be telling all Americans that
> we can do better - which is one of the core points in Obama's message.
>
> Anti-intellectual Republican presidents have led this nation into a new
> age
> of unreason, as former Vice President Al Gore argued in The Assault on
> Reason (2007) and more recently, Susan Jacoby has reported in The Age of
> Unreason [6] (2008). As Senator Obama campaigns, he can truly change
> America
> by simply refusing to play dumb. That strategy, if Obama continues it, may
> turn out to be not only courageous but also wise, for it is very possible
> that, after so many years, Americans are tired of having their innate
> intelligence insulted by their presidential candidates.
> _______
>
> --
> NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
> always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material
> available to advance understanding of
> political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues.
> I
> believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
> provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
> Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107
>
> "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their
> spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their
> government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are
> suffering deeply in spirit,
> and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public
> debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
> patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning
> back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are
> at
> stake."
> -Thomas Jefferson


How can you type so much and so often with at least one hand on your
dick jacking off while thinking about the Magic Negro???
______________________________________________________

How can you type with that flour sack on your head, cracker?
 
"GatherNoMoss" <saints2060@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 11:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him To
> Be
> Too Intellectual To Be President?



No.

But it did reveal you to be too stupid to know that he didn't write
the speech.
_________________________________________________

If he didn't write it in its entirety, he wrote a lot of it. In comparison
with the moronic crap that comes out George Bush, it was literature.
 
"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 12:26 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:33c8dab4-8871-4192-8d85-bce957376fa1@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 10:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him To
> > Be
> > Too Intellectual To Be President?

>
> > By John W. Dean

>
> > Created Mar 22 2008 - 11:14am

>
> > By way of disclaimer, I do not have a favored candidate in the 2008
> > Democratic nomination contest. But I do appreciate the new (or perhaps
> > simply long-forgotten) and higher levels to which Senator Barack Obama
> > is
> > taking political discourse. His historic speech on race [1] this week,
> > for
> > example, was as smart as they come.

>
> > There was a time in this country when political debate was actually
> > rather
> > sophisticated, but that was long ago (for as mass media grew, the level
> > of
> > debate went down). Only time will tell, however, if Obama's powerful
> > speech
> > was also politically smart.

>
> > Obama Speech Was Frank, Direct, and Intelligent - But Was It Pitched to
> > Too
> > Advanced an Audience?

>
> > With his speech addressing race in America, Obama has done something
> > that
> > few politicians are willing to do: speak with compelling intellectual
> > honesty. Rather than fuzzy-up difficult and troubling questions about
> > race,
> > he confronted them directly. Rather than avoiding issues that are
> > typically
> > ignored, he brought them forward for public discussion. Most strikingly,
> > he
> > did this with nuance, great tact, and conspicuous intelligence.

>
> > Many commentators were struck by the level of erudition Senator Obama
> > employed in his speech. For example, Newsweek's Howard Fineman asked,
> > "Did
> > the blockheads understand it?" Not wanting to sound elitist, Howard
> > quickly
> > added that of course, everyone is a bit of a blockhead. I do not know if
> > everyone understood the speech or not, but I do know that it is a
> > pleasure
> > to have a candidate running for the highest office in the land who is
> > not
> > only not trying to pretend to be dumb and inarticulate but rather
> > willingly
> > showing he is, in fact, smart as hell.

>
> > Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech was not unlike his insightful and
> > somewhat erudite books - Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of Hope -
> > with
> > one large exception: Relatively few people will read Obama's books but
> > many
> > have been (or may be) exposed to his historic speech.

>
> > Computers have made it rather simple to determine the intelligence or
> > grade
> > level of a speech by measuring it with the Flesch-Kincaid test [2],
> > which
> > is
> > found on the Tools/Options menu of Microsoft Word. This widely-employed
> > measurement device determines the degree of difficulty of the written
> > (and
> > spoken) word.

>
> > Enterprising linguists and others have applied the test to a wide
> > variety
> > of
> > material. For instance, the folks at youDictionary [3] have tested the
> > inaugural addresses of presidents. They discovered that no president
> > since
> > Woodrow Wilson has come close to delivering speeches pitched at a 12th
> > grade
> > level. Bush II's first inaugural address was at a 7.5 grade level, which
> > ranked him near Eisenhower's second address (7.5), Nixon's first (7.6),
> > LBJ's only (7.0), and FDR's fourth (8.1). Clinton's two addresses, by
> > contrast, scored at the 9th grade level (9.4 and 8.8 respectively).

>
> > I tested Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech and it scores at a 10.5
> > grade
> > level, which by current standards is in the stratosphere. But maybe he
> > was
> > being too smart to win the presidency.

>
> > Republicans Have Dumbed Down the Presidency

>
> > Hillary Clinton - who is every bit Obama's intellectual equal - is
> > increasingly running against his eloquence, and claiming that eloquence
> > is
> > all he has and that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief and
> > solve real-world problems. During and since the Ohio and Texas
> > primaries,
> > I've noticed that Senator Clinton has been showing less and less of her
> > own
> > conspicuous wonkiness and brain-power, a strategy that seems to be
> > working
> > to her advantage.

>
> > Senator Clinton's new populism has not become anti-intellectual (yet),
> > but
> > she surely knows that her husband hid his intelligence during his
> > presidential campaigns, playing up his good ole boy roots rather than
> > his
> > Yale/Oxford credentials. Savvy Democrats understand they cannot win the
> > White House by appearing smarter than their GOP opponent.

>
> > This is not a cynical observation, but rather a factual one. Republicans
> > have spent the past half century dumbing-down the American presidency,
> > for
> > it has helped them win the White House Colleen Shogan, wearing her
> > political
> > scientist hat [4], has assembled epigrammatic case studies demonstrating
> > the
> > effectiveness of the anti-intellectualism of Republican presidents
> > Dwight
> > Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.

>
> > For example, when Dwight Eisenhower ran against Illinois Governor Adlai
> > Stevenson (in 1952 and 1956), Eisenhower ignored the fact that he had
> > been
> > first in his class at West Point and president of Columbia University.
> > Meanwhile, his surrogates portrayed Stevenson as an "egghead"
> > intellectual,
> > which was untrue but easy to do given Stevenson's remarkably eloquent
> > speaking style. (In fact, Stevenson had flunked out of Harvard Law
> > School,
> > although he later graduated from Northwestern Law School.) In office,
> > too,
> > Eisenhower governed with a "hidden hand," continuing to hide his
> > intelligence.

>
> > Reagan was seen as an "amiable dunce," and history is still not sure if
> > his
> > Alzheimer's condition took hold well before he left office. Yet his
> > collected letters demonstrate more thoughtfulness and policy savvy, at
> > least
> > earlier in his life, than many suspected. George Bush reminded Yale
> > students
> > when visiting his alma mater that "to the C students - I say, you, too,
> > can
> > be President of the United States." In contrast, rival John Kerry's
> > campaign
> > (mistakenly it now seems) had taken pains to portray him as highly
> > intelligent - yet Kerry's Yale grades were just as weak as Bush's. The
> > putative GOP nominee for 2008, John McCain, follows in the Republican
> > tradition of anti-intellectualism, as the fifth man from the bottom of
> > his
> > Naval Academy graduating class.

>
> > Increasingly, conservatives seek to characterize liberals as
> > latte-drinking,
> > white-wine sipping, Volvo-driving, intellectual elitists with whom no
> > real
> > American would want to spend time, for they are too smug and superior to
> > truly understand others outside their circle. Conservatives may
> > appreciate
> > intelligence but not intellectuals and their kind, and as the Republican
> > Party has become more conservative, its anti-intellectualism has become
> > more
> > pronounced. The reason: It wins elections.

>
> > Hopefully Obama Will Not Shift His Strategy toward Playing Dumb

>
> > Senator Obama's smart speech on race is true to his campaign theme of
> > "change," for he is departing from the contemporary, Republican-created
> > norm
> > of Forrest Gump presidential politics. Do Americans really want the
> > dumbest
> > candidate answering the phone at three o'clock in the morning? Of course
> > not.

>
> > While the correlation between Presidents' successfully leading the
> > nation
> > and their intelligence cannot be easily measured, University of
> > California
> > psychologist Dean Keith Simonton has examined this question in his study
> > "Presidential IQ, Openness, Intellectual Brilliance, and Leadership:
> > Estimates and Correlations for 42 U.S. Chief Executives" (partially
> > available online [5]).

>
> > Using complex statistical and analytical tools, Professor Simonton has
> > estimated the IQs of all our presidents. For example, for the last
> > sixteen
> > presidents he estimated (and I have rounded his figures) the following
> > IQs:
> > Wilson (155), Harding (140), Coolidge (142), Hoover (142), F. Roosevelt
> > (151), Truman (140), Eisenhower (145), Kennedy (160), L. Johnson (141),
> > Nixon (143), Ford (140), Carter (157), Reagan (142), G. H. W. Bush
> > (143),
> > Clinton (159), and G. W. Bush (139). With the exception of LBJ, the
> > Democrats have provided the country with much higher wattage than the
> > Republicans. But clearly, none of these men are stupid.

>
> > Let's hope that Senator Obama continues to be willing to publicly
> > perform
> > at
> > his intelligence level. Perhaps he will trust voters to realize that the
> > key
> > criterion to serve in the highest office should not be which candidate
> > is
> > the person with whom you would most enjoy having a beer. To the
> > contrary,
> > presidents should not be encouraging C students to continue to earn Cs
> > so
> > they can become president. Presidents should be telling all Americans
> > that
> > we can do better - which is one of the core points in Obama's message.

>
> > Anti-intellectual Republican presidents have led this nation into a new
> > age
> > of unreason, as former Vice President Al Gore argued in The Assault on
> > Reason (2007) and more recently, Susan Jacoby has reported in The Age of
> > Unreason [6] (2008). As Senator Obama campaigns, he can truly change
> > America
> > by simply refusing to play dumb. That strategy, if Obama continues it,
> > may
> > turn out to be not only courageous but also wise, for it is very
> > possible
> > that, after so many years, Americans are tired of having their innate
> > intelligence insulted by their presidential candidates.
> > _______

>
> > --
> > NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not
> > always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material
> > available to advance understanding of
> > political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice
> > issues.
> > I
> > believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
> > Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107

>
> > "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
> > their
> > spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore
> > their
> > government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we
> > are
> > suffering deeply in spirit,
> > and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous
> > public
> > debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
> > patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of
> > winning
> > back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles
> > are
> > at
> > stake."
> > -Thomas Jefferson

>
> How can you type so much and so often with at least one hand on your
> dick jacking off while thinking about the Magic Negro???
> ______________________________________________________
>
> How can you type with that flour sack on your head, cracker?


It's not a flour sack you ****ing ******,it's a brand new cotton
sheet.
_________________________________________________________

Stuff it up your ass and light it, cracker. With all that natural gas
you're filled with you should provide enough power to keep the bug-zappers
working for a week in your trailor park.
 
"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 1:19 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b33b0f05-066d-4915-b1ae-b71cb6508a42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 12:26 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:33c8dab4-8871-4192-8d85-bce957376fa1@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 24, 10:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him
> > > To
> > > Be
> > > Too Intellectual To Be President?

>
> > > By John W. Dean

>
> > > Created Mar 22 2008 - 11:14am

>
> > > By way of disclaimer, I do not have a favored candidate in the 2008
> > > Democratic nomination contest. But I do appreciate the new (or perhaps
> > > simply long-forgotten) and higher levels to which Senator Barack Obama
> > > is
> > > taking political discourse. His historic speech on race [1] this week,
> > > for
> > > example, was as smart as they come.

>
> > > There was a time in this country when political debate was actually
> > > rather
> > > sophisticated, but that was long ago (for as mass media grew, the
> > > level
> > > of
> > > debate went down). Only time will tell, however, if Obama's powerful
> > > speech
> > > was also politically smart.

>
> > > Obama Speech Was Frank, Direct, and Intelligent - But Was It Pitched
> > > to
> > > Too
> > > Advanced an Audience?

>
> > > With his speech addressing race in America, Obama has done something
> > > that
> > > few politicians are willing to do: speak with compelling intellectual
> > > honesty. Rather than fuzzy-up difficult and troubling questions about
> > > race,
> > > he confronted them directly. Rather than avoiding issues that are
> > > typically
> > > ignored, he brought them forward for public discussion. Most
> > > strikingly,
> > > he
> > > did this with nuance, great tact, and conspicuous intelligence.

>
> > > Many commentators were struck by the level of erudition Senator Obama
> > > employed in his speech. For example, Newsweek's Howard Fineman asked,
> > > "Did
> > > the blockheads understand it?" Not wanting to sound elitist, Howard
> > > quickly
> > > added that of course, everyone is a bit of a blockhead. I do not know
> > > if
> > > everyone understood the speech or not, but I do know that it is a
> > > pleasure
> > > to have a candidate running for the highest office in the land who is
> > > not
> > > only not trying to pretend to be dumb and inarticulate but rather
> > > willingly
> > > showing he is, in fact, smart as hell.

>
> > > Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech was not unlike his insightful
> > > and
> > > somewhat erudite books - Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of
> > > Hope -
> > > with
> > > one large exception: Relatively few people will read Obama's books but
> > > many
> > > have been (or may be) exposed to his historic speech.

>
> > > Computers have made it rather simple to determine the intelligence or
> > > grade
> > > level of a speech by measuring it with the Flesch-Kincaid test [2],
> > > which
> > > is
> > > found on the Tools/Options menu of Microsoft Word. This
> > > widely-employed
> > > measurement device determines the degree of difficulty of the written
> > > (and
> > > spoken) word.

>
> > > Enterprising linguists and others have applied the test to a wide
> > > variety
> > > of
> > > material. For instance, the folks at youDictionary [3] have tested the
> > > inaugural addresses of presidents. They discovered that no president
> > > since
> > > Woodrow Wilson has come close to delivering speeches pitched at a 12th
> > > grade
> > > level. Bush II's first inaugural address was at a 7.5 grade level,
> > > which
> > > ranked him near Eisenhower's second address (7.5), Nixon's first
> > > (7.6),
> > > LBJ's only (7.0), and FDR's fourth (8.1). Clinton's two addresses, by
> > > contrast, scored at the 9th grade level (9.4 and 8.8 respectively).

>
> > > I tested Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech and it scores at a 10.5
> > > grade
> > > level, which by current standards is in the stratosphere. But maybe he
> > > was
> > > being too smart to win the presidency.

>
> > > Republicans Have Dumbed Down the Presidency

>
> > > Hillary Clinton - who is every bit Obama's intellectual equal - is
> > > increasingly running against his eloquence, and claiming that
> > > eloquence
> > > is
> > > all he has and that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief
> > > and
> > > solve real-world problems. During and since the Ohio and Texas
> > > primaries,
> > > I've noticed that Senator Clinton has been showing less and less of
> > > her
> > > own
> > > conspicuous wonkiness and brain-power, a strategy that seems to be
> > > working
> > > to her advantage.

>
> > > Senator Clinton's new populism has not become anti-intellectual (yet),
> > > but
> > > she surely knows that her husband hid his intelligence during his
> > > presidential campaigns, playing up his good ole boy roots rather than
> > > his
> > > Yale/Oxford credentials. Savvy Democrats understand they cannot win
> > > the
> > > White House by appearing smarter than their GOP opponent.

>
> > > This is not a cynical observation, but rather a factual one.
> > > Republicans
> > > have spent the past half century dumbing-down the American presidency,
> > > for
> > > it has helped them win the White House Colleen Shogan, wearing her
> > > political
> > > scientist hat [4], has assembled epigrammatic case studies
> > > demonstrating
> > > the
> > > effectiveness of the anti-intellectualism of Republican presidents
> > > Dwight
> > > Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.

>
> > > For example, when Dwight Eisenhower ran against Illinois Governor
> > > Adlai
> > > Stevenson (in 1952 and 1956), Eisenhower ignored the fact that he had
> > > been
> > > first in his class at West Point and president of Columbia University.
> > > Meanwhile, his surrogates portrayed Stevenson as an "egghead"
> > > intellectual,
> > > which was untrue but easy to do given Stevenson's remarkably eloquent
> > > speaking style. (In fact, Stevenson had flunked out of Harvard Law
> > > School,
> > > although he later graduated from Northwestern Law School.) In office,
> > > too,
> > > Eisenhower governed with a "hidden hand," continuing to hide his
> > > intelligence.

>
> > > Reagan was seen as an "amiable dunce," and history is still not sure
> > > if
> > > his
> > > Alzheimer's condition took hold well before he left office. Yet his
> > > collected letters demonstrate more thoughtfulness and policy savvy, at
> > > least
> > > earlier in his life, than many suspected. George Bush reminded Yale
> > > students
> > > when visiting his alma mater that "to the C students - I say, you,
> > > too,
> > > can
> > > be President of the United States." In contrast, rival John Kerry's
> > > campaign
> > > (mistakenly it now seems) had taken pains to portray him as highly
> > > intelligent - yet Kerry's Yale grades were just as weak as Bush's. The
> > > putative GOP nominee for 2008, John McCain, follows in the Republican
> > > tradition of anti-intellectualism, as the fifth man from the bottom of
> > > his
> > > Naval Academy graduating class.

>
> > > Increasingly, conservatives seek to characterize liberals as
> > > latte-drinking,
> > > white-wine sipping, Volvo-driving, intellectual elitists with whom no
> > > real
> > > American would want to spend time, for they are too smug and superior
> > > to
> > > truly understand others outside their circle. Conservatives may
> > > appreciate
> > > intelligence but not intellectuals and their kind, and as the
> > > Republican
> > > Party has become more conservative, its anti-intellectualism has
> > > become
> > > more
> > > pronounced. The reason: It wins elections.

>
> > > Hopefully Obama Will Not Shift His Strategy toward Playing Dumb

>
> > > Senator Obama's smart speech on race is true to his campaign theme of
> > > "change," for he is departing from the contemporary,
> > > Republican-created
> > > norm
> > > of Forrest Gump presidential politics. Do Americans really want the
> > > dumbest
> > > candidate answering the phone at three o'clock in the morning? Of
> > > course
> > > not.

>
> > > While the correlation between Presidents' successfully leading the
> > > nation
> > > and their intelligence cannot be easily measured, University of
> > > California
> > > psychologist Dean Keith Simonton has examined this question in his
> > > study
> > > "Presidential IQ, Openness, Intellectual Brilliance, and Leadership:
> > > Estimates and Correlations for 42 U.S. Chief Executives" (partially
> > > available online [5]).

>
> > > Using complex statistical and analytical tools, Professor Simonton has
> > > estimated the IQs of all our presidents. For example, for the last
> > > sixteen
> > > presidents he estimated (and I have rounded his figures) the following
> > > IQs:
> > > Wilson (155), Harding (140), Coolidge (142), Hoover (142), F.
> > > Roosevelt
> > > (151), Truman (140), Eisenhower (145), Kennedy (160), L. Johnson
> > > (141),
> > > Nixon (143), Ford (140), Carter (157), Reagan (142), G. H. W. Bush
> > > (143),
> > > Clinton (159), and G. W. Bush (139). With the exception of LBJ, the
> > > Democrats have provided the country with much higher wattage than the
> > > Republicans. But clearly, none of these men are stupid.

>
> > > Let's hope that Senator Obama continues to be willing to publicly
> > > perform
> > > at
> > > his intelligence level. Perhaps he will trust voters to realize that
> > > the
> > > key
> > > criterion to serve in the highest office should not be which candidate
> > > is
> > > the person with whom you would most enjoy having a beer. To the
> > > contrary,
> > > presidents should not be encouraging C students to continue to earn Cs
> > > so
> > > they can become president. Presidents should be telling all Americans
> > > that
> > > we can do better - which is one of the core points in Obama's message.

>
> > > Anti-intellectual Republican presidents have led this nation into a
> > > new
> > > age
> > > of unreason, as former Vice President Al Gore argued in The Assault on
> > > Reason (2007) and more recently, Susan Jacoby has reported in The Age
> > > of
> > > Unreason [6] (2008). As Senator Obama campaigns, he can truly change
> > > America
> > > by simply refusing to play dumb. That strategy, if Obama continues it,
> > > may
> > > turn out to be not only courageous but also wise, for it is very
> > > possible
> > > that, after so many years, Americans are tired of having their innate
> > > intelligence insulted by their presidential candidates.
> > > _______

>
> > > --
> > > NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has
> > > not
> > > always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such
> > > material
> > > available to advance understanding of
> > > political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice
> > > issues.
> > > I
> > > believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as
> > > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
> > > Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107

>
> > > "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
> > > their
> > > spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore
> > > their
> > > government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we
> > > are
> > > suffering deeply in spirit,
> > > and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous
> > > public
> > > debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
> > > patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of
> > > winning
> > > back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles
> > > are
> > > at
> > > stake."
> > > -Thomas Jefferson

>
> > How can you type so much and so often with at least one hand on your
> > dick jacking off while thinking about the Magic Negro???
> > ______________________________________________________

>
> > How can you type with that flour sack on your head, cracker?

>
> It's not a flour sack you ****ing ******,it's a brand new cotton
> sheet.
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Stuff it up your ass and light it, cracker. With all that natural gas
> you're filled with you should provide enough power to keep the bug-zappers
> working for a week in your trailor park.


Lick my lovely white arse !!
__________________________________________________________

Sorry, cracker. I don't swing that way. You'll have to look up some of
your inbred cracker male cousins.
 
Obama and his handlers had better be spending a lot of time figuring how
they are going to answer Pat Buchanan's column of 3-24-2008.

However, I bet they drag Al Sharpton out to protest Buchanan's "recist
remarks," and make fools out themselves, again.
 
"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 2:34 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5f7a16dd-2929-42b8-9b4c-a521ef496de2@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 1:19 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:b33b0f05-066d-4915-b1ae-b71cb6508a42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 24, 12:26 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> > >news:33c8dab4-8871-4192-8d85-bce957376fa1@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Mar 24, 10:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal
> > > > Him
> > > > To
> > > > Be
> > > > Too Intellectual To Be President?

>
> > > > By John W. Dean

>
> > > > Created Mar 22 2008 - 11:14am

>
> > > > By way of disclaimer, I do not have a favored candidate in the 2008
> > > > Democratic nomination contest. But I do appreciate the new (or
> > > > perhaps
> > > > simply long-forgotten) and higher levels to which Senator Barack
> > > > Obama
> > > > is
> > > > taking political discourse. His historic speech on race [1] this
> > > > week,
> > > > for
> > > > example, was as smart as they come.

>
> > > > There was a time in this country when political debate was actually
> > > > rather
> > > > sophisticated, but that was long ago (for as mass media grew, the
> > > > level
> > > > of
> > > > debate went down). Only time will tell, however, if Obama's powerful
> > > > speech
> > > > was also politically smart.

>
> > > > Obama Speech Was Frank, Direct, and Intelligent - But Was It Pitched
> > > > to
> > > > Too
> > > > Advanced an Audience?

>
> > > > With his speech addressing race in America, Obama has done something
> > > > that
> > > > few politicians are willing to do: speak with compelling
> > > > intellectual
> > > > honesty. Rather than fuzzy-up difficult and troubling questions
> > > > about
> > > > race,
> > > > he confronted them directly. Rather than avoiding issues that are
> > > > typically
> > > > ignored, he brought them forward for public discussion. Most
> > > > strikingly,
> > > > he
> > > > did this with nuance, great tact, and conspicuous intelligence.

>
> > > > Many commentators were struck by the level of erudition Senator
> > > > Obama
> > > > employed in his speech. For example, Newsweek's Howard Fineman
> > > > asked,
> > > > "Did
> > > > the blockheads understand it?" Not wanting to sound elitist, Howard
> > > > quickly
> > > > added that of course, everyone is a bit of a blockhead. I do not
> > > > know
> > > > if
> > > > everyone understood the speech or not, but I do know that it is a
> > > > pleasure
> > > > to have a candidate running for the highest office in the land who
> > > > is
> > > > not
> > > > only not trying to pretend to be dumb and inarticulate but rather
> > > > willingly
> > > > showing he is, in fact, smart as hell.

>
> > > > Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech was not unlike his insightful
> > > > and
> > > > somewhat erudite books - Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of
> > > > Hope -
> > > > with
> > > > one large exception: Relatively few people will read Obama's books
> > > > but
> > > > many
> > > > have been (or may be) exposed to his historic speech.

>
> > > > Computers have made it rather simple to determine the intelligence
> > > > or
> > > > grade
> > > > level of a speech by measuring it with the Flesch-Kincaid test [2],
> > > > which
> > > > is
> > > > found on the Tools/Options menu of Microsoft Word. This
> > > > widely-employed
> > > > measurement device determines the degree of difficulty of the
> > > > written
> > > > (and
> > > > spoken) word.

>
> > > > Enterprising linguists and others have applied the test to a wide
> > > > variety
> > > > of
> > > > material. For instance, the folks at youDictionary [3] have tested
> > > > the
> > > > inaugural addresses of presidents. They discovered that no president
> > > > since
> > > > Woodrow Wilson has come close to delivering speeches pitched at a
> > > > 12th
> > > > grade
> > > > level. Bush II's first inaugural address was at a 7.5 grade level,
> > > > which
> > > > ranked him near Eisenhower's second address (7.5), Nixon's first
> > > > (7.6),
> > > > LBJ's only (7.0), and FDR's fourth (8.1). Clinton's two addresses,
> > > > by
> > > > contrast, scored at the 9th grade level (9.4 and 8.8 respectively).

>
> > > > I tested Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech and it scores at a
> > > > 10.5
> > > > grade
> > > > level, which by current standards is in the stratosphere. But maybe
> > > > he
> > > > was
> > > > being too smart to win the presidency.

>
> > > > Republicans Have Dumbed Down the Presidency

>
> > > > Hillary Clinton - who is every bit Obama's intellectual equal - is
> > > > increasingly running against his eloquence, and claiming that
> > > > eloquence
> > > > is
> > > > all he has and that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief
> > > > and
> > > > solve real-world problems. During and since the Ohio and Texas
> > > > primaries,
> > > > I've noticed that Senator Clinton has been showing less and less of
> > > > her
> > > > own
> > > > conspicuous wonkiness and brain-power, a strategy that seems to be
> > > > working
> > > > to her advantage.

>
> > > > Senator Clinton's new populism has not become anti-intellectual
> > > > (yet),
> > > > but
> > > > she surely knows that her husband hid his intelligence during his
> > > > presidential campaigns, playing up his good ole boy roots rather
> > > > than
> > > > his
> > > > Yale/Oxford credentials. Savvy Democrats understand they cannot win
> > > > the
> > > > White House by appearing smarter than their GOP opponent.

>
> > > > This is not a cynical observation, but rather a factual one.
> > > > Republicans
> > > > have spent the past half century dumbing-down the American
> > > > presidency,
> > > > for
> > > > it has helped them win the White House Colleen Shogan, wearing her
> > > > political
> > > > scientist hat [4], has assembled epigrammatic case studies
> > > > demonstrating
> > > > the
> > > > effectiveness of the anti-intellectualism of Republican presidents
> > > > Dwight
> > > > Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.

>
> > > > For example, when Dwight Eisenhower ran against Illinois Governor
> > > > Adlai
> > > > Stevenson (in 1952 and 1956), Eisenhower ignored the fact that he
> > > > had
> > > > been
> > > > first in his class at West Point and president of Columbia
> > > > University.
> > > > Meanwhile, his surrogates portrayed Stevenson as an "egghead"
> > > > intellectual,
> > > > which was untrue but easy to do given Stevenson's remarkably
> > > > eloquent
> > > > speaking style. (In fact, Stevenson had flunked out of Harvard Law
> > > > School,
> > > > although he later graduated from Northwestern Law School.) In
> > > > office,
> > > > too,
> > > > Eisenhower governed with a "hidden hand," continuing to hide his
> > > > intelligence.

>
> > > > Reagan was seen as an "amiable dunce," and history is still not sure
> > > > if
> > > > his
> > > > Alzheimer's condition took hold well before he left office. Yet his
> > > > collected letters demonstrate more thoughtfulness and policy savvy,
> > > > at
> > > > least
> > > > earlier in his life, than many suspected. George Bush reminded Yale
> > > > students
> > > > when visiting his alma mater that "to the C students - I say, you,
> > > > too,
> > > > can
> > > > be President of the United States." In contrast, rival John Kerry's
> > > > campaign
> > > > (mistakenly it now seems) had taken pains to portray him as highly
> > > > intelligent - yet Kerry's Yale grades were just as weak as Bush's.
> > > > The
> > > > putative GOP nominee for 2008, John McCain, follows in the
> > > > Republican
> > > > tradition of anti-intellectualism, as the fifth man from the bottom
> > > > of
> > > > his
> > > > Naval Academy graduating class.

>
> > > > Increasingly, conservatives seek to characterize liberals as
> > > > latte-drinking,
> > > > white-wine sipping, Volvo-driving, intellectual elitists with whom
> > > > no
> > > > real
> > > > American would want to spend time, for they are too smug and
> > > > superior
> > > > to
> > > > truly understand others outside their circle. Conservatives may
> > > > appreciate
> > > > intelligence but not intellectuals and their kind, and as the
> > > > Republican
> > > > Party has become more conservative, its anti-intellectualism has
> > > > become
> > > > more
> > > > pronounced. The reason: It wins elections.

>
> > > > Hopefully Obama Will Not Shift His Strategy toward Playing Dumb

>
> > > > Senator Obama's smart speech on race is true to his campaign theme
> > > > of
> > > > "change," for he is departing from the contemporary,
> > > > Republican-created
> > > > norm
> > > > of Forrest Gump presidential politics. Do Americans really want the
> > > > dumbest
> > > > candidate answering the phone at three o'clock in the morning? Of
> > > > course
> > > > not.

>
> > > > While the correlation between Presidents' successfully leading the
> > > > nation
> > > > and their intelligence cannot be easily measured, University of
> > > > California
> > > > psychologist Dean Keith Simonton has examined this question in his
> > > > study
> > > > "Presidential IQ, Openness, Intellectual Brilliance, and Leadership:
> > > > Estimates and Correlations for 42 U.S. Chief Executives" (partially
> > > > available online [5]).

>
> > > > Using complex statistical and analytical tools, Professor Simonton
> > > > has
> > > > estimated the IQs of all our presidents. For example, for the last
> > > > sixteen
> > > > presidents he estimated (and I have rounded his figures) the
> > > > following
> > > > IQs:
> > > > Wilson (155), Harding (140), Coolidge (142), Hoover (142), F.
> > > > Roosevelt
> > > > (151), Truman (140), Eisenhower (145), Kennedy (160), L. Johnson
> > > > (141),
> > > > Nixon (143), Ford (140), Carter (157), Reagan (142), G. H. W. Bush
> > > > (143),
> > > > Clinton (159), and G. W. Bush (139). With the exception of LBJ, the
> > > > Democrats have provided the country with much higher wattage than
> > > > the
> > > > Republicans. But clearly, none of these men are stupid.

>
> > > > Let's hope that Senator Obama continues to be willing to publicly
> > > > perform
> > > > at
> > > > his intelligence level. Perhaps he will trust voters to realize that
> > > > the
> > > > key
> > > > criterion to serve in the highest office should not be which
> > > > candidate
> > > > is
> > > > the person with whom you would most enjoy having a beer. To the
> > > > contrary,
> > > > presidents should not be encouraging C students to continue to earn
> > > > Cs
> > > > so
> > > > they can become president. Presidents should be telling all
> > > > Americans
> > > > that
> > > > we can do better - which is one of the core points in Obama's
> > > > message.

>
> > > > Anti-intellectual Republican presidents have led this nation into a
> > > > new
> > > > age
> > > > of unreason, as former Vice President Al Gore argued in The Assault
> > > > on
> > > > Reason (2007) and more recently, Susan Jacoby has reported in The
> > > > Age
> > > > of
> > > > Unreason [6] (2008). As Senator Obama campaigns, he can truly change
> > > > America
> > > > by simply refusing to play dumb. That strategy, if Obama continues
> > > > it,
> > > > may
> > > > turn out to be not only courageous but also wise, for it is very
> > > > possible
> > > > that, after so many years, Americans are tired of having their
> > > > innate
> > > > intelligence insulted by their presidential candidates.
> > > > _______

>
> > > > --
> > > > NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has
> > > > not
> > > > always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such
> > > > material
> > > > available to advance understanding of
> > > > political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice
> > > > issues.
> > > > I
> > > > believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material
> > > > as
> > > > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
> > > > Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107

>
> > > > "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
> > > > their
> > > > spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore
> > > > their
> > > > government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime
> > > > we
> > > > are
> > > > suffering deeply in spirit,
> > > > and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous
> > > > public
> > > > debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
> > > > patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of
> > > > winning
> > > > back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where
> > > > principles
> > > > are
> > > > at
> > > > stake."
> > > > -Thomas Jefferson

>
> > > How can you type so much and so often with at least one hand on your
> > > dick jacking off while thinking about the Magic Negro???
> > > ______________________________________________________

>
> > > How can you type with that flour sack on your head, cracker?

>
> > It's not a flour sack you ****ing ******,it's a brand new cotton
> > sheet.
> > _________________________________________________________

>
> > Stuff it up your ass and light it, cracker. With all that natural gas
> > you're filled with you should provide enough power to keep the
> > bug-zappers
> > working for a week in your trailor park.

>
> Lick my lovely white arse !!
> __________________________________________________________
>
> Sorry, cracker. I don't swing that way. You'll have to look up some of
> your inbred cracker male cousins.


I'd rather look up....
__________________________________________________________

Not a bad idea, a house might be ready to fall on you, cracker. In the
meantime, keep stuffing that flour sack up your ass and don't forget to
light it when you're done.
 
"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6d08fcde-196e-47dd-94c1-258e72944f8a@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 24, 2:47 pm, yaak...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 11:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal Him To
> > Be
> > Too Intellectual To Be President?

>
> What is "too intellectual"?
>
> > By John W. Dean

>
> > ...winning
> > back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles
> > are at
> > stake."
> > -Thomas Jefferson

>
> A slave-owner or an "intellectual"?
>
> (we wonder)


Too cerebral for "typical white folks".
____________________________

Especially if crackers like you are any example.
 
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:47:35 -0700 (PDT), GatherNoMoss
<saints2060@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mar 24, 11:50
 
NoNutts, do you review your work before you hit "send."???


"HarryNadds" <hoofhearted07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ff9e4a2c-2667-421c-b308-5818a387d682@n58g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 24, 2:34 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5f7a16dd-2929-42b8-9b4c-a521ef496de2@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 24, 1:19 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:b33b0f05-066d-4915-b1ae-b71cb6508a42@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Mar 24, 12:26 pm, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > "HarryNadds" <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >

>news:33c8dab4-8871-4192-8d85-bce957376fa1@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Mar 24, 10:42 am, "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > > Barack Obama's Smart Speech "A More Perfect Union": Did It Reveal

Him
> > > > To
> > > > Be
> > > > Too Intellectual To Be President?

>
> > > > By John W. Dean

>
> > > > Created Mar 22 2008 - 11:14am

>
> > > > By way of disclaimer, I do not have a favored candidate in the 2008
> > > > Democratic nomination contest. But I do appreciate the new (or

perhaps
> > > > simply long-forgotten) and higher levels to which Senator Barack

Obama
> > > > is
> > > > taking political discourse. His historic speech on race [1] this

week,
> > > > for
> > > > example, was as smart as they come.

>
> > > > There was a time in this country when political debate was actually
> > > > rather
> > > > sophisticated, but that was long ago (for as mass media grew, the
> > > > level
> > > > of
> > > > debate went down). Only time will tell, however, if Obama's powerful
> > > > speech
> > > > was also politically smart.

>
> > > > Obama Speech Was Frank, Direct, and Intelligent - But Was It Pitched
> > > > to
> > > > Too
> > > > Advanced an Audience?

>
> > > > With his speech addressing race in America, Obama has done something
> > > > that
> > > > few politicians are willing to do: speak with compelling

intellectual
> > > > honesty. Rather than fuzzy-up difficult and troubling questions

about
> > > > race,
> > > > he confronted them directly. Rather than avoiding issues that are
> > > > typically
> > > > ignored, he brought them forward for public discussion. Most
> > > > strikingly,
> > > > he
> > > > did this with nuance, great tact, and conspicuous intelligence.

>
> > > > Many commentators were struck by the level of erudition Senator

Obama
> > > > employed in his speech. For example, Newsweek's Howard Fineman

asked,
> > > > "Did
> > > > the blockheads understand it?" Not wanting to sound elitist, Howard
> > > > quickly
> > > > added that of course, everyone is a bit of a blockhead. I do not

know
> > > > if
> > > > everyone understood the speech or not, but I do know that it is a
> > > > pleasure
> > > > to have a candidate running for the highest office in the land who

is
> > > > not
> > > > only not trying to pretend to be dumb and inarticulate but rather
> > > > willingly
> > > > showing he is, in fact, smart as hell.

>
> > > > Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech was not unlike his insightful
> > > > and
> > > > somewhat erudite books - Dreams of My Father and The Audacity of
> > > > Hope -
> > > > with
> > > > one large exception: Relatively few people will read Obama's books

but
> > > > many
> > > > have been (or may be) exposed to his historic speech.

>
> > > > Computers have made it rather simple to determine the intelligence

or
> > > > grade
> > > > level of a speech by measuring it with the Flesch-Kincaid test [2],
> > > > which
> > > > is
> > > > found on the Tools/Options menu of Microsoft Word. This
> > > > widely-employed
> > > > measurement device determines the degree of difficulty of the

written
> > > > (and
> > > > spoken) word.

>
> > > > Enterprising linguists and others have applied the test to a wide
> > > > variety
> > > > of
> > > > material. For instance, the folks at youDictionary [3] have tested

the
> > > > inaugural addresses of presidents. They discovered that no president
> > > > since
> > > > Woodrow Wilson has come close to delivering speeches pitched at a

12th
> > > > grade
> > > > level. Bush II's first inaugural address was at a 7.5 grade level,
> > > > which
> > > > ranked him near Eisenhower's second address (7.5), Nixon's first
> > > > (7.6),
> > > > LBJ's only (7.0), and FDR's fourth (8.1). Clinton's two addresses,

by
> > > > contrast, scored at the 9th grade level (9.4 and 8.8 respectively).

>
> > > > I tested Obama's "A More Perfect Union" speech and it scores at a

10.5
> > > > grade
> > > > level, which by current standards is in the stratosphere. But maybe

he
> > > > was
> > > > being too smart to win the presidency.

>
> > > > Republicans Have Dumbed Down the Presidency

>
> > > > Hillary Clinton - who is every bit Obama's intellectual equal - is
> > > > increasingly running against his eloquence, and claiming that
> > > > eloquence
> > > > is
> > > > all he has and that he is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief
> > > > and
> > > > solve real-world problems. During and since the Ohio and Texas
> > > > primaries,
> > > > I've noticed that Senator Clinton has been showing less and less of
> > > > her
> > > > own
> > > > conspicuous wonkiness and brain-power, a strategy that seems to be
> > > > working
> > > > to her advantage.

>
> > > > Senator Clinton's new populism has not become anti-intellectual

(yet),
> > > > but
> > > > she surely knows that her husband hid his intelligence during his
> > > > presidential campaigns, playing up his good ole boy roots rather

than
> > > > his
> > > > Yale/Oxford credentials. Savvy Democrats understand they cannot win
> > > > the
> > > > White House by appearing smarter than their GOP opponent.

>
> > > > This is not a cynical observation, but rather a factual one.
> > > > Republicans
> > > > have spent the past half century dumbing-down the American

presidency,
> > > > for
> > > > it has helped them win the White House Colleen Shogan, wearing her
> > > > political
> > > > scientist hat [4], has assembled epigrammatic case studies
> > > > demonstrating
> > > > the
> > > > effectiveness of the anti-intellectualism of Republican presidents
> > > > Dwight
> > > > Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush.

>
> > > > For example, when Dwight Eisenhower ran against Illinois Governor
> > > > Adlai
> > > > Stevenson (in 1952 and 1956), Eisenhower ignored the fact that he

had
> > > > been
> > > > first in his class at West Point and president of Columbia

University.
> > > > Meanwhile, his surrogates portrayed Stevenson as an "egghead"
> > > > intellectual,
> > > > which was untrue but easy to do given Stevenson's remarkably

eloquent
> > > > speaking style. (In fact, Stevenson had flunked out of Harvard Law
> > > > School,
> > > > although he later graduated from Northwestern Law School.) In

office,
> > > > too,
> > > > Eisenhower governed with a "hidden hand," continuing to hide his
> > > > intelligence.

>
> > > > Reagan was seen as an "amiable dunce," and history is still not sure
> > > > if
> > > > his
> > > > Alzheimer's condition took hold well before he left office. Yet his
> > > > collected letters demonstrate more thoughtfulness and policy savvy,

at
> > > > least
> > > > earlier in his life, than many suspected. George Bush reminded Yale
> > > > students
> > > > when visiting his alma mater that "to the C students - I say, you,
> > > > too,
> > > > can
> > > > be President of the United States." In contrast, rival John Kerry's
> > > > campaign
> > > > (mistakenly it now seems) had taken pains to portray him as highly
> > > > intelligent - yet Kerry's Yale grades were just as weak as Bush's.

The
> > > > putative GOP nominee for 2008, John McCain, follows in the

Republican
> > > > tradition of anti-intellectualism, as the fifth man from the bottom

of
> > > > his
> > > > Naval Academy graduating class.

>
> > > > Increasingly, conservatives seek to characterize liberals as
> > > > latte-drinking,
> > > > white-wine sipping, Volvo-driving, intellectual elitists with whom

no
> > > > real
> > > > American would want to spend time, for they are too smug and

superior
> > > > to
> > > > truly understand others outside their circle. Conservatives may
> > > > appreciate
> > > > intelligence but not intellectuals and their kind, and as the
> > > > Republican
> > > > Party has become more conservative, its anti-intellectualism has
> > > > become
> > > > more
> > > > pronounced. The reason: It wins elections.

>
> > > > Hopefully Obama Will Not Shift His Strategy toward Playing Dumb

>
> > > > Senator Obama's smart speech on race is true to his campaign theme

of
> > > > "change," for he is departing from the contemporary,
> > > > Republican-created
> > > > norm
> > > > of Forrest Gump presidential politics. Do Americans really want the
> > > > dumbest
> > > > candidate answering the phone at three o'clock in the morning? Of
> > > > course
> > > > not.

>
> > > > While the correlation between Presidents' successfully leading the
> > > > nation
> > > > and their intelligence cannot be easily measured, University of
> > > > California
> > > > psychologist Dean Keith Simonton has examined this question in his
> > > > study
> > > > "Presidential IQ, Openness, Intellectual Brilliance, and Leadership:
> > > > Estimates and Correlations for 42 U.S. Chief Executives" (partially
> > > > available online [5]).

>
> > > > Using complex statistical and analytical tools, Professor Simonton

has
> > > > estimated the IQs of all our presidents. For example, for the last
> > > > sixteen
> > > > presidents he estimated (and I have rounded his figures) the

following
> > > > IQs:
> > > > Wilson (155), Harding (140), Coolidge (142), Hoover (142), F.
> > > > Roosevelt
> > > > (151), Truman (140), Eisenhower (145), Kennedy (160), L. Johnson
> > > > (141),
> > > > Nixon (143), Ford (140), Carter (157), Reagan (142), G. H. W. Bush
> > > > (143),
> > > > Clinton (159), and G. W. Bush (139). With the exception of LBJ, the
> > > > Democrats have provided the country with much higher wattage than

the
> > > > Republicans. But clearly, none of these men are stupid.

>
> > > > Let's hope that Senator Obama continues to be willing to publicly
> > > > perform
> > > > at
> > > > his intelligence level. Perhaps he will trust voters to realize that
> > > > the
> > > > key
> > > > criterion to serve in the highest office should not be which

candidate
> > > > is
> > > > the person with whom you would most enjoy having a beer. To the
> > > > contrary,
> > > > presidents should not be encouraging C students to continue to earn

Cs
> > > > so
> > > > they can become president. Presidents should be telling all

Americans
> > > > that
> > > > we can do better - which is one of the core points in Obama's

message.
>
> > > > Anti-intellectual Republican presidents have led this nation into a
> > > > new
> > > > age
> > > > of unreason, as former Vice President Al Gore argued in The Assault

on
> > > > Reason (2007) and more recently, Susan Jacoby has reported in The

Age
> > > > of
> > > > Unreason [6] (2008). As Senator Obama campaigns, he can truly change
> > > > America
> > > > by simply refusing to play dumb. That strategy, if Obama continues

it,
> > > > may
> > > > turn out to be not only courageous but also wise, for it is very
> > > > possible
> > > > that, after so many years, Americans are tired of having their

innate
> > > > intelligence insulted by their presidential candidates.
> > > > _______

>
> > > > --
> > > > NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has
> > > > not
> > > > always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such
> > > > material
> > > > available to advance understanding of
> > > > political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice
> > > > issues.
> > > > I
> > > > believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material

as
> > > > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright
> > > > Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107

>
> > > > "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
> > > > their
> > > > spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore
> > > > their
> > > > government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime

we
> > > > are
> > > > suffering deeply in spirit,
> > > > and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous
> > > > public
> > > > debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have
> > > > patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of
> > > > winning
> > > > back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where

principles
> > > > are
> > > > at
> > > > stake."
> > > > -Thomas Jefferson

>
> > > How can you type so much and so often with at least one hand on your
> > > dick jacking off while thinking about the Magic Negro???
> > > ______________________________________________________

>
> > > How can you type with that flour sack on your head, cracker?

>
> > It's not a flour sack you ****ing ******,it's a brand new cotton
> > sheet.
> > _________________________________________________________

>
> > Stuff it up your ass and light it, cracker. With all that natural gas
> > you're filled with you should provide enough power to keep the

bug-zappers
> > working for a week in your trailor park.

>
> Lick my lovely white arse !!
> __________________________________________________________
>
> Sorry, cracker. I don't swing that way. You'll have to look up some of
> your inbred cracker male cousins.


I'd rather look up some if your inbred,nigga,wife beating,
spearchunkin',yard ape, porch monkey twins.
 
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