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Bible-Spouting Group Plans to Picket Amish Funerals

By Susan Jones

CNSNews.com Senior Editor

(CNSNews.com) - A Kansas-based group that says "God hates fags" plans

to picket the funerals of the Amish girls killed by a disturbed man in

Lancaster County, Pa.

The Westboro Baptist Church -- described as a hate group by the

Anti-Defamation League -- has made a name for itself by picketing the

funerals of U.S. troops killed in Iraq. The troops are dying as

punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality, the group says.

The Westboro group says the Amish school girls were "killed by a madman

in punishment for Gov. Ed Rendell's blasphemous sins against Westboro

Baptist Church.

"Gov. Ed Rendell -- speaking and acting in his official capacity to

bind the State of Pennsylvania -- slandered and mocked and ridiculed

and condemned Westboro Baptist Church on national Fox TV," the group

says on its website.

"Rendell also revealed a conspiracy to employ the State's police powers

to destroy WBC in order to silence WBC's Gospel message.

Co-conspirators identified by Rendell included state officials,

citizens, lawyers, legislators and media," the website says.

Westboro Baptist Church said it is "continuing to pray for even worse

punishment upon Pennsylvania."

A number of states have passed laws to keep groups like Westboro away

from grieving families at funerals, but last month, a federal judge

ruled that a Kentucky law barring protests within 300 feet of military

funerals and memorial services is too broad and may not be enforced.

In other developments, the man who shot and killed five Amish

schoolgirls apparently planned to sexually abuse them first,

investigators said. But he apparently didn't get a chance: Charles Carl

Roberts IV killed himself when police arrived on the scene.

Suicide notes left by Roberts indicate he was dreaming of molesting

girls. He reportedly told his wife he had molested two young relatives

20 years ago - and wanted to do it again.

"It's very possible that he intended to victimize these children in

many ways prior to executing them and killing himself," State Police

Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said on Tuesday.

Roberts also indicated he was anguished over the death of a daughter

who died shortly after birth nine years ago. In his notes, he said he

was "filled with so much hate" and "unimaginable emptiness," but

everyone who knew him said they never saw signs of his psychological

distress.

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> Bible-Spouting Group Plans to Picket Amish Funerals

>

> By Susan Jones

>

> CNSNews.com Senior Editor

>

> (CNSNews.com) - A Kansas-based group that says "God hates fags" plans

> to picket the funerals of the Amish girls killed by a disturbed man in

> Lancaster County, Pa.

>

> The Westboro Baptist Church -- described as a hate group by the

> Anti-Defamation League -- has made a name for itself by picketing the

> funerals of U.S. troops killed in Iraq. The troops are dying as

> punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality, the group says.

>

> The Westboro group says the Amish school girls were "killed by a madman

> in punishment for Gov. Ed Rendell's blasphemous sins against Westboro

> Baptist Church.

>

> "Gov. Ed Rendell -- speaking and acting in his official capacity to

> bind the State of Pennsylvania -- slandered and mocked and ridiculed

> and condemned Westboro Baptist Church on national Fox TV," the group

> says on its website.

>

> "Rendell also revealed a conspiracy to employ the State's police powers

> to destroy WBC in order to silence WBC's Gospel message.

> Co-conspirators identified by Rendell included state officials,

> citizens, lawyers, legislators and media," the website says.

>

> Westboro Baptist Church said it is "continuing to pray for even worse

> punishment upon Pennsylvania."

>

> A number of states have passed laws to keep groups like Westboro away

> from grieving families at funerals, but last month, a federal judge

> ruled that a Kentucky law barring protests within 300 feet of military

> funerals and memorial services is too broad and may not be enforced.

>

> In other developments, the man who shot and killed five Amish

> schoolgirls apparently planned to sexually abuse them first,

> investigators said. But he apparently didn't get a chance: Charles Carl

> Roberts IV killed himself when police arrived on the scene.

>

> Suicide notes left by Roberts indicate he was dreaming of molesting

> girls. He reportedly told his wife he had molested two young relatives

> 20 years ago - and wanted to do it again.

>

> "It's very possible that he intended to victimize these children in

> many ways prior to executing them and killing himself," State Police

> Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said on Tuesday.

>

> Roberts also indicated he was anguished over the death of a daughter

> who died shortly after birth nine years ago. In his notes, he said he

> was "filled with so much hate" and "unimaginable emptiness," but

> everyone who knew him said they never saw signs of his psychological

> distress.

>

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Ahhhhh......... but those good an christian people of the religious

conservative (republican) right will NOT let this indecency happen

............................

(chirp .......... chirp ... chirp)

Maybe these guys will get in on the action.

http://patriotguard.org/

"ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen@MYOB.com> spake thusly and wrote:

>> Bible-Spouting Group Plans to Picket Amish Funerals

Those scum are not Christians. They are trinitarians.

Pastor Winter

--

Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal / / PreRapture Ministry

http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)

Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?

http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon

Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

> "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen@MYOB.com> spake thusly and wrote:

>

> >> Bible-Spouting Group Plans to Picket Amish Funerals

>

> Those scum are not Christians. They are trinitarians.

So do you think that going to a funeral and yelling vile statements an

acceptable apologitic??

By the way why dont you go over to old fred's site and tell him he is a

scum. Come to think of it why dont you go to any of the sites on the

net and do that? You are a real preacher, right??

>

>

pastor_neanderthal@yahoo.com wrote:

> Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

> > "ZenIsWhen" <ZenIsWhen@MYOB.com> spake thusly and wrote:

> >

> > >> Bible-Spouting Group Plans to Picket Amish Funerals

> >

> > Those scum are not Christians. They are trinitarians.

>

> So do you think that going to a funeral and yelling vile statements an

> acceptable apologitic??

>

> By the way why dont you go over to old fred's site and tell him he is a

> scum. Come to think of it why dont you go to any of the sites on the

> net and do that? You are a real preacher, right??

> >

Telling old Fred and Family that they are Scum just eggs them on they

treat it as a badge of honor that they are hated by everyone for

"Telling the Truth of Gods Word" That was a quote from the last e-mail

I got from them when I pointed out the utter hypocrisy of their

actions. They are not Christians and they do not want to be Christians

they are a Terrorist Organization and under the Patriot Act they should

be swooped up and sent off to Gitmo for the rest of their lives. You

think old George will do that?

sighs, shakes her head People have nothing better to do. This is part

of the reason why we have atheists. Other people see how those who

profess to be Christians act and then they say "There's no God".

There's a certain way Christians are to conduct themselves. Screaming

at those because they are homosexuals or whatever isn't the way. Now I

am not making any excuses for atheists nor other unbelievers but you

can see some logic in this (maybe not). I saw a comicstrip once of a

group of Christians, Nazis, other religious groups and they were

holding pickets signs that read "God Hate Fags", "Fags Are Going To

Hell" and "Remember Sodom and Gomorrah". Really this is very sad. When

I myself believe in God, am a Christian and don't conduct myself this

way and I hear people say things like "God isn't real" or "See how that

man/woman act and they are suppose to be a Christian", I understand why

and how the rest of the world don't believe those who profess to be

Christians.

Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,

Chellie

I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

"Chellie" <TNotch1@aol.com> wrote in message

news:1160275520.959241.132970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> sighs, shakes her head People have nothing better to do. This is part

> of the reason why we have atheists. Other people see how those who

> profess to be Christians act and then they say "There's no God".

> There's a certain way Christians are to conduct themselves. Screaming

> at those because they are homosexuals or whatever isn't the way. Now I

> am not making any excuses for atheists nor other unbelievers but you

> can see some logic in this (maybe not). I saw a comicstrip once of a

> group of Christians, Nazis, other religious groups and they were

> holding pickets signs that read "God Hate Fags", "Fags Are Going To

> Hell" and "Remember Sodom and Gomorrah". Really this is very sad. When

> I myself believe in God, am a Christian and don't conduct myself this

> way and I hear people say things like "God isn't real" or "See how that

> man/woman act and they are suppose to be a Christian", I understand why

> and how the rest of the world don't believe those who profess to be

> Christians.

>

>

> Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,

> Chellie

>

God chooses.

Atheists have not been chosen.

BUT

That is not excuse for pretend Christians to act hateful.

AND

There is no excuse within Christianity for homosexual behavior.

AND

Most who claim to be Christians just have a religion.

"Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

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>I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

> bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

>

Homosexuality is an action.

It is not a birth defect.

ALL humans are born in sin.

Most humans "learn" not to murder.

Most humans "learn" not to rape.

Most humans "learn" not to steal.

Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

engages in homosexual activity.

Vernon wrote:

> "Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

> news:1160279820.819847.107410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

> > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

> >

>

> Homosexuality is an action.

> It is not a birth defect.

> ALL humans are born in sin.

> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> engages in homosexual activity.

> >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

> > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

> Homosexuality is an action.

> It is not a birth defect.

> ALL humans are born in sin.

> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> engages in homosexual activity.

What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

attracted to another man today." People just find themselves attracted

to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

Vernon wrote:

> "Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

> news:1160279820.819847.107410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

> > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

> >

>

> Homosexuality is an action.

> It is not a birth defect.

> ALL humans are born in sin.

> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> engages in homosexual activity.

You are both idiots. Homosexuals are found throughout Nature. There are

fundamental differences in the brains of homosexuals and heterosexuals

this a fact there is even some research that is showing a genetic link

to being a homosexual. Homosexuality is no more a sin or a birth defect

or activity than heterosexuality is and when you two grow up both

intellectually and spiritually perhaps you will learn that lesson.

Though hold out little hope that you will learn that this lesson this

life or even in the next thousand lives.

Divine Holiness Church for Dogs wrote:

> > >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

> > > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> > > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> > > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> > > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> > > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> > > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

>

> > Homosexuality is an action.

> > It is not a birth defect.

> > ALL humans are born in sin.

> > Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> > Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> > Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> > Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> > There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> > engages in homosexual activity.

>

> What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

> attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

> dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

> attracted to another man today." People just find themselves attracted

> to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

> age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

> probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

> with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

Being a Homosexual is not a Dysfunction it is a different state of

being and perception there is nothing more wrong with it than there is

with being a Heterosexual. Homosexuality is a state that exists

throughout Nature and it is just as natural as Heterosexuality. The

fact that somebody decided at some time to allegedly write that their

god said that it was evil has no relation to reality.

"Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

news:1160346842.467267.295640@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>> >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

>> > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

>> > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

>> > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

>> > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

>> > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

>> > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

>

>> Homosexuality is an action.

>> It is not a birth defect.

>> ALL humans are born in sin.

>> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

>> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

>> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

>> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

>> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

>> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

>> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

>> engages in homosexual activity.

>

> What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

> attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

> dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

> attracted to another man today." People just find themselves attracted

> to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

> age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

> probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

> with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

>

You know nothing about anything.

There is no such thing as a homosexual.

Men are sexual and they find outlets.

Homosexuality is an action.

It is not a birth defect.

ALL humans are born in sin.

Most humans "learn" not to murder.

Most humans "learn" not to rape.

Most humans "learn" not to steal.

Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

engages in homosexual activity.

"Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

news:1160355302.403853.72500@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

>

> Divine Holiness Church for Dogs wrote:

>> > >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That

>> > >is

>> > > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

>> > > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

>> > > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

>> > > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

>> > > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

>> > > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

>>

>> > Homosexuality is an action.

>> > It is not a birth defect.

>> > ALL humans are born in sin.

>> > Most humans "learn" not to murder.

>> > Most humans "learn" not to rape.

>> > Most humans "learn" not to steal.

>> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

>> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

>> > Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

>> > There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone

>> > who

>> > engages in homosexual activity.

>>

>> What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

>> attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

>> dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

>> attracted to another man today." People just find themselves attracted

>> to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

>> age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

>> probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

>> with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

>

> Being a Homosexual is not a Dysfunction it is a different state of

> being and perception there is nothing more wrong with it than there is

> with being a Heterosexual. Homosexuality is a state that exists

> throughout Nature and it is just as natural as Heterosexuality. The

> fact that somebody decided at some time to allegedly write that their

> god said that it was evil has no relation to reality.

>

Sexuality is a state that exists in nature.

Homosexual activity is throughout nature.

PREFERENCE for same sex is a perversion, every time.

Humans are more capable of learning.

"Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

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>

> Vernon wrote:

>> "Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

>> news:1160279820.819847.107410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>> >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

>> > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

>> > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

>> > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

>> > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

>> > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

>> > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

>> >

>>

>> Homosexuality is an action.

>> It is not a birth defect.

>> ALL humans are born in sin.

>> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

>> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

>> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

>> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

>> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

>> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

>> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

>> engages in homosexual activity.

>

> You are both idiots. Homosexuals are found throughout Nature. There are

> fundamental differences in the brains of homosexuals and heterosexuals

> this a fact there is even some research that is showing a genetic link

> to being a homosexual.

O.K The SAME genetic difference for pedophiles and rapists, THE SAME gene

difference.

Fine.

>Homosexuality is no more a sin or a birth defect

> or activity than heterosexuality is and when you two grow up both

> intellectually and spiritually perhaps you will learn that lesson.

> Though hold out little hope that you will learn that this lesson this

> life or even in the next thousand lives.

>

O.K The SAME genetic difference for pedophiles and rapists, THE SAME gene

difference.

Fine.

Vernon wrote:

> "Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

> news:1160355302.403853.72500@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

> >

> > Divine Holiness Church for Dogs wrote:

> >> > >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That

> >> > >is

> >> > > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> >> > > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> >> > > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> >> > > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> >> > > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> >> > > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

> >>

> >> > Homosexuality is an action.

> >> > It is not a birth defect.

> >> > ALL humans are born in sin.

> >> > Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> >> > Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> >> > Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> >> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> >> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> >> > Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> >> > There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone

> >> > who

> >> > engages in homosexual activity.

> >>

> >> What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

> >> attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

> >> dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

> >> attracted to another man today." People just find themselves attracted

> >> to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

> >> age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

> >> probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

> >> with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

> >

> > Being a Homosexual is not a Dysfunction it is a different state of

> > being and perception there is nothing more wrong with it than there is

> > with being a Heterosexual. Homosexuality is a state that exists

> > throughout Nature and it is just as natural as Heterosexuality. The

> > fact that somebody decided at some time to allegedly write that their

> > god said that it was evil has no relation to reality.

> >

>

> Sexuality is a state that exists in nature.

> Homosexual activity is throughout nature.

> PREFERENCE for same sex is a perversion, every time.

> Humans are more capable of learning.

Tell that to the Wolves, all Primates and countless other species that

are also homosexuals. You are projecting your religious interpretation

which is in turn is based on a poor translation and changes made to

your texts to dictate what is and is not normal for the rest of the

world. Most homophobes like yourself are hiding their own homosexual

desires, this is primarily the reason for these things seeping into the

Bible. I am not saying this is true in your case, but you do seem to

projecting a lot here. Perhaps you should tend to your own house and

leave the rest of the world alone. The fact is that anything that is

found in Nature is Natural and thus not a Perversion or put another way

it is just How God Made them.

Vernon wrote:

> "Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

> news:1160354807.944951.234860@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> >

> > Vernon wrote:

> >> "Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

> >> news:1160279820.819847.107410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

> >> >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays. That is

> >> > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents and

> >> > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> >> > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish people

> >> > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people, and

> >> > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the outside

> >> > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

> >> >

> >>

> >> Homosexuality is an action.

> >> It is not a birth defect.

> >> ALL humans are born in sin.

> >> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> >> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> >> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> >> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> >> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> >> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> >> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> >> engages in homosexual activity.

> >

> > You are both idiots. Homosexuals are found throughout Nature. There are

> > fundamental differences in the brains of homosexuals and heterosexuals

> > this a fact there is even some research that is showing a genetic link

> > to being a homosexual.

>

> O.K The SAME genetic difference for pedophiles and rapists, THE SAME gene

> difference.

> Fine.

No Rape and Pedophilia has nothing to do with sex and everything to do

with violence and control. This is different from having a consensual

and natural relationship with another consenting adult. You seem to

think that everything is about sex it is not always the case sometimes

it is about Control. For instance your insistence on trying to control

others with your little Book of Myths.

> >Homosexuality is no more a sin or a birth defect

> > or activity than heterosexuality is and when you two grow up both

> > intellectually and spiritually perhaps you will learn that lesson.

> > Though hold out little hope that you will learn that this lesson this

> > life or even in the next thousand lives.

> >

> O.K The SAME genetic difference for pedophiles and rapists, THE SAME gene

> difference.

> Fine.

See Above. Your Myths are no better than anyone else's Myths.

> You know nothing about anything.

You only "know" what your religion tells you to know.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual.

There are people who are attracted to people of the same sex. Many of

these men appear to be feminized and many of the homosexual women are

masculine. That would incidate an imbalance of hormones.

> Men are sexual and they find outlets.

True. And some are attracted to other men, feel nothing for women, and

don't want to live without sex all their lives.

> Homosexuality is an action. It is not a birth defect.

So how did they get that way then? Did their mothers feed them female

hormones?

> ALL humans are born in sin.

Babies are innocent. That's the main reason I can't stand your stupid

religion; you accuse innocent little babies of being bad and beat up

children.

> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

Not the same, although a lot of murderers have brain damage.

> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

Not the same.

> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

They will if they're starving.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

Probably not biologically caused.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

I can't imagine what would cause this.

> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> engages in homosexual activity.

If they're not homosexuals, then why do they want to have sex with

others of the same sex?

Vernon wrote:

> Homosexuality is an action.

> It is not a birth defect.

> ALL humans are born in sin.

> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> engages in homosexual activity.

WOW! claps I know I am in for it but so what. I agree with you. I

remember between 2000-2003, all these females were all of a sudden

"bi-curious/bi-sexual". This was because some men has the fantasy of

being with 2 women, blah, blah, blah. You don't just be straight one

day and next homosexual. I don't go picketing against homosexuality

because a Christian don't do that. I have enough sense to know God will

handle that but I don't condone the activity. Do you know there's a

show in Mexico called "The Donkey Ride/Show"? Anyone who knows what I

am typing about also knows what goes on there. People I have spoken to

who have seen it said they were disgusted but they had to see it.

I had a co-worker who was a homosexual, said he didn't chose the

lifestyle of homosexuality, is married to a woman (which he finds

attractive) and thinks Janet Jackson is sexy and have said on many

occasions he would have sex with her. Can I say confused? I believe he

added Mariah Carey to the mix as well.

Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,

Chellie

Vernon wrote:

> Homosexuality is an action.

> It is not a birth defect.

> ALL humans are born in sin.

> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

> engages in homosexual activity.

WOW! claps I know I am in for it but so what. I agree with you. I

remember between 2000-2003, all these females were all of a sudden

"bi-curious/bi-sexual". This was because some men has the fantasy of

being with 2 women, blah, blah, blah. You don't just be straight one

day and next homosexual. I don't go picketing against homosexuality

because a Christian don't do that. I have enough sense to know God will

handle that but I don't condone the activity. Do you know there's a

show in Mexico called "The Donkey Ride/Show"? Anyone who knows what I

am typing about also knows what goes on there. People I have spoken to

who have seen it said they were disgusted but they had to see it.

I had a co-worker who was a homosexual, said he didn't chose the

lifestyle of homosexuality, is married to a woman (which he finds

attractive) and thinks Janet Jackson is sexy and have said on many

occasions he would have sex with her. Can I say confused? I believe he

added Mariah Carey to the mix as well.

Striving to perfection and holiness in Jesus Christ,

Chellie

"Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

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>

> Vernon wrote:

>> "Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

>> news:1160355302.403853.72500@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

>> >

>> > Divine Holiness Church for Dogs wrote:

>> >> > >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays.

>> >> > >That

>> >> > >is

>> >> > > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents

>> >> > > and

>> >> > > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

>> >> > > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish

>> >> > > people

>> >> > > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people,

>> >> > > and

>> >> > > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the

>> >> > > outside

>> >> > > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

>> >>

>> >> > Homosexuality is an action.

>> >> > It is not a birth defect.

>> >> > ALL humans are born in sin.

>> >> > Most humans "learn" not to murder.

>> >> > Most humans "learn" not to rape.

>> >> > Most humans "learn" not to steal.

>> >> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

>> >> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

>> >> > Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

>> >> > There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of

>> >> > someone

>> >> > who

>> >> > engages in homosexual activity.

>> >>

>> >> What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

>> >> attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

>> >> dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

>> >> attracted to another man today." People just find themselves

>> >> attracted

>> >> to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

>> >> age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

>> >> probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

>> >> with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

>> >

>> > Being a Homosexual is not a Dysfunction it is a different state of

>> > being and perception there is nothing more wrong with it than there is

>> > with being a Heterosexual. Homosexuality is a state that exists

>> > throughout Nature and it is just as natural as Heterosexuality. The

>> > fact that somebody decided at some time to allegedly write that their

>> > god said that it was evil has no relation to reality.

>> >

>>

>> Sexuality is a state that exists in nature.

>> Homosexual activity is throughout nature.

>> PREFERENCE for same sex is a perversion, every time.

>> Humans are more capable of learning.

>

> Tell that to the Wolves, all Primates and countless other species that

> are also homosexuals.

Humans happen to be above other animals in purposeful actions and predicting

consequences.

Most humans.

All "animals" rape and steal, therefore it's O.K.

Perverted humans have perverted actions.

Homosexuality is no less perverted than rapists or thieves.

OR, just eliminate all laws, prisons and hospitals.

AND, I suggest you learn the statistics of psychology and the action /

reaction syndrome in the psychology of humans vs. other animals before you

try to discuss the subject to justify perverted activities.

You have obviously been trained by perverts who seem to drift into the

educational system to teach perversion to others.

"Divine Holiness Church for Dogs" <DedNdogYrs@AOL.com> wrote in message

news:1160372315.198902.232080@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

>> You know nothing about anything.

>

> You only "know" what your religion tells you to know.

>

>> There is no such thing as a homosexual.

>

> There are people who are attracted to people of the same sex. Many of

> these men appear to be feminized and many of the homosexual women are

> masculine. That would incidate an imbalance of hormones.

>

>> Men are sexual and they find outlets.

>

> True. And some are attracted to other men, feel nothing for women, and

> don't want to live without sex all their lives.

>

>> Homosexuality is an action. It is not a birth defect.

>

> So how did they get that way then? Did their mothers feed them female

> hormones?

>

>> ALL humans are born in sin.

>

> Babies are innocent. That's the main reason I can't stand your stupid

> religion; you accuse innocent little babies of being bad and beat up

> children.

>

>> Most humans "learn" not to murder.

>

> Not the same, although a lot of murderers have brain damage.

>

>> Most humans "learn" not to rape.

>

> Not the same.

>

>> Most humans "learn" not to steal.

>

> They will if they're starving.

>

>> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

>

> Probably not biologically caused.

>

>> Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

>

> I can't imagine what would cause this.

The SAME perversion with a slight twist as homosexual behaviour. They say,

as well as kooky psychologists that they were just born that way.

You can't have it both ways.

>

>> Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

>> There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of someone who

>> engages in homosexual activity.

>

> If they're not homosexuals, then why do they want to have sex with

> others of the same sex?

I know of THREE male "couples" who are deeply in love and have never had sex

with each other. They live together, own houses together, etc. They have a

relationship that would make many mixed couples jealous. They are NOT

homosexuals. They have NO sexual relations with each other, and never have

had.

All animals, especially males look for sexual outlets.

The perverted human animal occasionally has a preference for other of the

same sex.

It makes them no less perverted in a Politically correct world.

Rapists, thieves and murderers are also JUST a variation of the norm.

Now go get an education, even if it makes you feel uncomfortable.

Vernon wrote:

> "Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

> news:1160371092.909081.176490@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...

> >

> > Vernon wrote:

> >> "Draccus" <clm874@aol.com> wrote in message

> >> news:1160355302.403853.72500@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

> >> >

> >> > Divine Holiness Church for Dogs wrote:

> >> >> > >I thought these people who picket funerals only targeted gays.

> >> >> > >That

> >> >> > >is

> >> >> > > bad, too, because homosexuality is a birth defect and the parents

> >> >> > > and

> >> >> > > family members aren't responsible for it. However, to harass the

> >> >> > > parents of these little girls is beyond disgusting. The Amish

> >> >> > > people

> >> >> > > don't bother anyone, don't force their religion on other people,

> >> >> > > and

> >> >> > > allow their children to leave their religion and live in the

> >> >> > > outside

> >> >> > > world if they choose to. They are also incredibly forgiving.

> >> >>

> >> >> > Homosexuality is an action.

> >> >> > It is not a birth defect.

> >> >> > ALL humans are born in sin.

> >> >> > Most humans "learn" not to murder.

> >> >> > Most humans "learn" not to rape.

> >> >> > Most humans "learn" not to steal.

> >> >> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with sub teens.

> >> >> > Most humans "learn" not to have sex with animals.

> >> >> > Then there are those who are called homosexuals.

> >> >> > There is no such thing as a homosexual, just a description of

> >> >> > someone

> >> >> > who

> >> >> > engages in homosexual activity.

> >> >>

> >> >> What homosexuals do is an action. The fact that they find themselves

> >> >> attracted to people of the same sex is some kind of physical

> >> >> dysfunction. Men do not get up one morning and say: "I think I will be

> >> >> attracted to another man today." People just find themselves

> >> >> attracted

> >> >> to certain people when their bodies begin producing hormones, around

> >> >> age 12 or 13. They can refuse to act on it for religious reasons and

> >> >> probably live a very frustated life. I know some Catholics have dealt

> >> >> with this (poorly) by becoming priests and nuns.

> >> >

> >> > Being a Homosexual is not a Dysfunction it is a different state of

> >> > being and perception there is nothing more wrong with it than there is

> >> > with being a Heterosexual. Homosexuality is a state that exists

> >> > throughout Nature and it is just as natural as Heterosexuality. The

> >> > fact that somebody decided at some time to allegedly write that their

> >> > god said that it was evil has no relation to reality.

> >> >

> >>

> >> Sexuality is a state that exists in nature.

> >> Homosexual activity is throughout nature.

> >> PREFERENCE for same sex is a perversion, every time.

> >> Humans are more capable of learning.

> >

> > Tell that to the Wolves, all Primates and countless other species that

> > are also homosexuals.

>

> Humans happen to be above other animals in purposeful actions and predicting

> consequences.

> Most humans.

> All "animals" rape and steal, therefore it's O.K.

>

> Perverted humans have perverted actions.

>

> Homosexuality is no less perverted than rapists or thieves.

>

>

> OR, just eliminate all laws, prisons and hospitals.

>

> AND, I suggest you learn the statistics of psychology and the action /

> reaction syndrome in the psychology of humans vs. other animals before you

> try to discuss the subject to justify perverted activities.

>

> You have obviously been trained by perverts who seem to drift into the

> educational system to teach perversion to others.

Son, you are a mindless little Dink without a brain in your head.