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Big anti-U.S. protest in Iraq, Baghdad under curfew
By Khaled Farhan2 hours, 37 minutes ago

Baghdad was under curfew on Monday, the fourth anniversary of the fall of
the capital to U.S. forces, as Iraqis gathered in the city of Najaf for a
big anti-U.S. protest called by fiery cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

"No, no, to the occupation, no, no to America," thousands of marching
Iraqis, mainly men and young boys waving Iraqi flags, chanted as they
marched through the southern Shi'ite holy city.

Iraq imposed a 24-hour vehicle ban in Baghdad from 5 a.m. (0100 GMT) to
prevent any attacks on the anniversary. Car bombs still plague the capital,
despite a new security crackdown by tens of thousands of U.S. and Iraqi
troops that is seen as a last attempt to avert sectarian civil war.

Sadr, who blames the U.S.-led invasion for Iraq's unrelenting violence,
issued a statement on Sunday urging Iraqis to protest against the presence
of U.S. troops in Iraq.

Protesters in Najaf burnt the American flag and spray painted the slogans
"May America fall" and "Bush is a dog" on the ground. Thousands were
marching from nearby Kufa, while others clogged roads as they came by car
and bus from Baghdad and Shi'ite cities in the south.

The powerful young cleric led two uprisings against U.S. forces in 2004 but
has since become a major political player. His movement holds a quarter of
the seats in the ruling Shi'ite Alliance of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

"In order to end the occupation, you will go out and demonstrate," said
Sadr, who had been keeping a low profile in recent months.

U.S. President George W. Bush has insisted U.S. troops will not leave until
Iraqis can take over security and has repeatedly rejected setting a
timetable for withdrawal.

The U.S. military says Sadr, who leads the Mehdi Army militia which is
blamed for fuelling sectarian strife with minority Sunni Muslims, is in
neighboring Iran. His aides say the cleric is in Iraq and have denied
suggestions he fled to escape the security crackdown.

His Mehdi army fought gunbattles with U.S. and Iraqi forces in the southern
city of Diwaniya at the weekend after the troops swept into neighborhoods to
hunt for militiamen.

ANNIVERSARY

Four years ago to the day, the world watched as Iraqis, helped by U.S.
soldiers, toppled Saddam's 20-foot statue in Baghdad's central Firdous
Square. A crowd swarmed over what was left of the statue and danced for joy.

Saddam had vowed to defeat the U.S.-led invasion launched on March 20, 2003,
but his forces offered little resistance as U.S. forces thrust deep into the
heart of the Iraqi capital.

By then the war had cost 96 American dead, 30 British dead and unknown
thousands of Iraqi military and civilian casualties.

Four years on those tolls have soared to more than 3,270 U.S. soldiers
killed, 140 British soldiers, 124 from other nations, and tens of thousands
of Iraqis.

Four U.S. soldiers were killed in attacks south of Baghdad on Sunday while
another two died from wounds suffered in operations north of the capital,
the U.S. military said.

The toll brought to 10 the number of soldiers killed at the weekend and 35
in the first eight days of April.

What largely began as a Sunni Arab insurgency against U.S. and Iraqi
government forces after the 2003 invasion has since widened into a sectarian
conflict between the country's Shi'ite majority and minority Sunnis, once
dominant under Saddam.

"This day is a good one because it is the anniversary of the fall of Saddam,
but the security is poor. There's no water, no electricity. The situation is
poor everywhere," said one Baghdad resident, Hatem Karim.

U.S. military commanders counter that the capital now gets up to nine hours
of electricity a day and that the security crackdown has succeeded in
reducing the daily killings by sectarian hit squads and needs more time to
show results.

Bush is sending 30,000 more troops to Iraq, mainly for the Baghdad
operation.

(Additional reporting by Yara Bayoumy and Mussab Al-Khairalla in Baghdad)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070409/ts_nm/iraq_dc_29
 
Roger wrote:
> Big anti-U.S. protest in Iraq, Baghdad under curfew
> By Khaled Farhan2 hours, 37 minutes ago
>
> Baghdad was under curfew on Monday, the fourth anniversary of the fall of
> the capital to U.S. forces, as Iraqis gathered in the city of Najaf for a
> big anti-U.S. protest called by fiery cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
>
> "No, no, to the occupation, no, no to America," thousands of marching
> Iraqis, mainly men and young boys waving Iraqi flags, chanted as they
> marched through the southern Shi'ite holy city.
>


How the NEOCONs and the Idiot in the White House Lost the War!:

http://my.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20070408/4619ba40_3ca6_1552620070409-1230585232

Insider: Missteps Soured Iraqis on U.S.
By CHARLES J. HANLEY (AP Special Correspondent)
>From Associated Press

April 09, 2007 1:08 AM EDT
NEW YORK - In a rueful reflection on what might have been, an Iraqi
government insider details in 500 pages the U.S. occupation's
"shocking" mismanagement of his country - a performance so bad, he
writes, that by 2007 Iraqis had "turned their backs on their would-be
liberators."

"The corroded and corrupt state of Saddam was replaced by the
corroded, inefficient, incompetent and corrupt state of the new
order," Ali A. Allawi concludes in "The Occupation of Iraq," newly
published by Yale University Press.


Allawi writes with authority as a member of that "new order," having
served as Iraq's trade, defense and finance minister at various times
since 2003. As a former academic, at Oxford University before the U.S.-
British invasion of Iraq, he also writes with unusual detachment.

The U.S.- and British-educated engineer and financier is the first
senior Iraqi official to look back at book length on his country's
four-year ordeal. It's an unsparing look at failures both American and
Iraqi, an account in which the word "ignorance" crops up repeatedly.

First came the "monumental ignorance" of those in Washington pushing
for war in 2002 without "the faintest idea" of Iraq's realities. "More
perceptive people knew instinctively that the invasion of Iraq would
open up the great fissures in Iraqi society," he writes.

What followed was the "rank amateurism and swaggering arrogance" of
the occupation, under L. Paul Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority
(CPA), which took big steps with little consultation with Iraqis,
steps Allawi and many others see as blunders:

- The Americans disbanded Iraq's army, which Allawi said could have
helped quell a rising insurgency in 2003. Instead, hundreds of
thousands of demobilized, angry men became a recruiting pool for the
resistance.

- Purging tens of thousands of members of toppled President Saddam
Hussein's Baath party - from government, school faculties and
elsewhere - left Iraq short on experienced hands at a crucial time.

- An order consolidating decentralized bank accounts at the Finance
Ministry bogged down operations of Iraq's many state-owned
enterprises.

- The CPA's focus on private enterprise allowed the "commercial gangs"
of Saddam's day to monopolize business.

- Its free-trade policy allowed looted Iraqi capital equipment to be
spirited away across borders.

- The CPA perpetuated Saddam's fuel subsidies, selling gasoline at
giveaway prices and draining the budget.

In his 2006 memoir of the occupation, Bremer wrote that senior U.S.
generals wanted to recall elements of the old Iraqi army in 2003, but
were rebuffed by the Bush administration. Bremer complained generally
that his authority was undermined by Washington's "micromanagement."

Although Allawi, a cousin of Ayad Allawi, Iraq's prime minister in
2004, is a member of a secularist Shiite Muslim political grouping,
his well-researched book betrays little partisanship.

On U.S. reconstruction failures - in electricity, health care and
other areas documented by Washington's own auditors - Allawi writes
that the Americans' "insipid retelling of `success' stories" merely
hid "the huge black hole that lay underneath."

For their part, U.S. officials have often largely blamed Iraq's
explosive violence for the failures of reconstruction and poor
governance.

The author has been instrumental since 2005 in publicizing extensive
corruption within Iraq's "new order," including an $800-million
Defense Ministry scandal. Under Saddam, he writes, the secret police
kept would-be plunderers in check better than the U.S. occupiers have
done.

As 2007 began, Allawi concludes, "America's only allies in Iraq were
those who sought to manipulate the great power to their narrow
advantage. It might have been otherwise."
 
In article <461a1f9c$0$24786$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> U.S. military commanders counter that the capital now gets up to nine hours
> of electricity a day and that the security crackdown has succeeded in
> reducing the daily killings by sectarian hit squads and needs more time to
> show results.
> Bush is sending 30,000 more troops to Iraq, mainly for the Baghdad
> operation.


And as soon as they get Baghdad quieted down, they'll claim a victory
like they did in Afghanistan, and Al Maliki will be the president of a
city, not unlike Karzai in Kabul.
Ain't democracy wonderful? We invade two countries and hand them two
cities.
Gosh-oh-gee, Batman, we're a friggin' miracle!
--
FACT: If the mileage of US cars
was equal to the mileage of European cars,
the US could stop importing oil.
Stop importing oil, Stop supporting terrorism.
 
In article <461a1f9c$0$24786$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Big anti-U.S. protest in Iraq, Baghdad under curfew
> By Khaled Farhan2 hours, 37 minutes ago
>
> Baghdad was under curfew on Monday, the fourth anniversary of the fall of
> the capital to U.S. forces, as Iraqis gathered in the city of Najaf for a
> big anti-U.S. protest called by fiery cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
>
> "No, no, to the occupation, no, no to America," thousands of marching
> Iraqis, mainly men and young boys waving Iraqi flags, chanted as they
> marched through the southern Shi'ite holy city.
>
> Iraq imposed a 24-hour vehicle ban in Baghdad from 5 a.m. (0100 GMT) to
> prevent any attacks on the anniversary. Car bombs still plague the capital,
> despite a new security crackdown by tens of thousands of U.S. and Iraqi
> troops that is seen as a last attempt to avert sectarian civil war.
>
> Sadr, who blames the U.S.-led invasion for Iraq's unrelenting violence,
> issued a statement on Sunday urging Iraqis to protest against the presence
> of U.S. troops in Iraq.
>
> Protesters in Najaf burnt the American flag and spray painted the slogans
> "May America fall" and "Bush is a dog" on the ground. Thousands were
> marching from nearby Kufa, while others clogged roads as they came by car
> and bus from Baghdad and Shi'ite cities in the south.
>
> The powerful young cleric led two uprisings against U.S. forces in 2004 but
> has since become a major political player. His movement holds a quarter of
> the seats in the ruling Shi'ite Alliance of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.
>
> "In order to end the occupation, you will go out and demonstrate," said
> Sadr, who had been keeping a low profile in recent months.
>
> U.S. President George W. Bush has insisted U.S. troops will not leave until
> Iraqis can take over security and has repeatedly rejected setting a
> timetable for withdrawal.
>
> The U.S. military says Sadr, who leads the Mehdi Army militia which is
> blamed for fuelling sectarian strife with minority Sunni Muslims, is in
> neighboring Iran. His aides say the cleric is in Iraq and have denied
> suggestions he fled to escape the security crackdown.
>
> His Mehdi army fought gunbattles with U.S. and Iraqi forces in the southern
> city of Diwaniya at the weekend after the troops swept into neighborhoods to
> hunt for militiamen.
>
> ANNIVERSARY
>
> Four years ago to the day, the world watched as Iraqis, helped by U.S.
> soldiers, toppled Saddam's 20-foot statue in Baghdad's central Firdous
> Square. A crowd swarmed over what was left of the statue and danced for joy.
>
> Saddam had vowed to defeat the U.S.-led invasion launched on March 20, 2003,
> but his forces offered little resistance as U.S. forces thrust deep into the
> heart of the Iraqi capital.
>
> By then the war had cost 96 American dead, 30 British dead and unknown
> thousands of Iraqi military and civilian casualties.
>
> Four years on those tolls have soared to more than 3,270 U.S. soldiers
> killed, 140 British soldiers, 124 from other nations, and tens of thousands
> of Iraqis.
>
> Four U.S. soldiers were killed in attacks south of Baghdad on Sunday while
> another two died from wounds suffered in operations north of the capital,
> the U.S. military said.
>
> The toll brought to 10 the number of soldiers killed at the weekend and 35
> in the first eight days of April.
>
> What largely began as a Sunni Arab insurgency against U.S. and Iraqi
> government forces after the 2003 invasion has since widened into a sectarian
> conflict between the country's Shi'ite majority and minority Sunnis, once
> dominant under Saddam.
>
> "This day is a good one because it is the anniversary of the fall of Saddam,
> but the security is poor. There's no water, no electricity. The situation is
> poor everywhere," said one Baghdad resident, Hatem Karim.
>
> U.S. military commanders counter that the capital now gets up to nine hours
> of electricity a day and that the security crackdown has succeeded in
> reducing the daily killings by sectarian hit squads and needs more time to
> show results.
>
> Bush is sending 30,000 more troops to Iraq, mainly for the Baghdad
> operation.
>
> (Additional reporting by Yara Bayoumy and Mussab Al-Khairalla in Baghdad)
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070409/ts_nm/iraq_dc_29


and;
In article <3avj131ru57f5glkkb2n5ok2oko9qhr3l6@4ax.com>,
Old Salt <old777salt@yahoo.com> wrote:

> NEW YORK (AP) - In a rueful reflection on what might have been, an
> Iraqi government insider details in 500 pages the U.S. occupation's
> "shocking" mismanagement of his country - a performance so bad, he
> writes, that by 2007 Iraqis had "turned their backs on their would-be
> liberators."
>
> "The corroded and corrupt state of Saddam was replaced by the
> corroded, inefficient, incompetent and corrupt state of the new
> order," Ali A. Allawi concludes in "The Occupation of Iraq," newly
> published by Yale University Press.
>
> Allawi writes with authority as a member of that "new order," having
> served as Iraq's trade, defense and finance minister at various times
> since 2003. As a former academic, at Oxford University before the
> U.S.-British invasion of Iraq, he also writes with unusual detachment.
>
> The U.S.- and British-educated engineer and financier is the first
> senior Iraqi official to look back at book length on his country's
> four-year ordeal. It's an unsparing look at failures both American and
> Iraqi, an account in which the word "ignorance" crops up repeatedly.
>
> First came the "monumental ignorance" of those in Washington pushing
> for war in 2002 without "the faintest idea" of Iraq's realities. "More
> perceptive people knew instinctively that the invasion of Iraq would
> open up the great fissures in Iraqi society," he writes.
>
> What followed was the "rank amateurism and swaggering arrogance" of
> the occupation, under L. Paul Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority
> (CPA), which took big steps with little consultation with Iraqis,
> steps Allawi and many others see as blunders:
>
> - The Americans disbanded Iraq's army, which Allawi said could have
> helped quell a rising insurgency in 2003. Instead, hundreds of
> thousands of demobilized, angry men became a recruiting pool for the
> resistance.
>
> - Purging tens of thousands of members of toppled President Saddam
> Hussein's Baath party - from government, school faculties and
> elsewhere - left Iraq short on experienced hands at a crucial time.
>
> - An order consolidating decentralized bank accounts at the Finance
> Ministry bogged down operations of Iraq's many state-owned
> enterprises.
>
> - The CPA's focus on private enterprise allowed the "commercial gangs"
> of Saddam's day to monopolize business.
>
> - Its free-trade policy allowed looted Iraqi capital equipment to be
> spirited away across borders.
>
> - The CPA perpetuated Saddam's fuel subsidies, selling gasoline at
> giveaway prices and draining the budget.
>
> In his 2006 memoir of the occupation, Bremer wrote that senior U.S.
> generals wanted to recall elements of the old Iraqi army in 2003, but
> were rebuffed by the Bush administration. Bremer complained generally
> that his authority was undermined by Washington's "micromanagement."
>
> Although Allawi, a cousin of Ayad Allawi, Iraq's prime minister in
> 2004, is a member of a secularist Shiite Muslim political grouping,
> his well-researched book betrays little partisanship.
>
> http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070409/D8OCTHE00.html
>
> Thank you Bush!


bush's legacy will be the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
Loser!

--
My birthday is April 30th, I'll be 64 y.o.

Money: What a concept?
 
"Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Big anti-U.S. protest in Iraq, Baghdad under curfew
> By Khaled Farhan2 hours, 37 minutes ago
>


I guess we've all seen the photos by now. What are those flags the
demonstrators are carrying? Uh-oh ... those look suspiciously like Iraqi
national flags to me.

Bitter, intractable sectarian rivalry in Iraq has played heavily in favor of
the occupying forces, as Iraqis seemed more intent on killing each other
than in uniting to drive an invading army from their country.

That, apparently, is changing.

And there's no way that the neocons are gonna get this train back on the
rails. This is a disastrous failure that may have been years in the making,
but it was inevitable from day one.

Charles
 
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