Guest Igor The Terrible Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Americans convert to Islam? Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will be more than happy to arrange that for him. The time is long overdue to exterminate this dangerous cult of cockroaches--once and for all. =================================================================== Bin Laden urges Americans to convert By LEE KEATH, Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end. American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy even though the video had not been posted yet by al-Qaida - and intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it was authentic and looking for clues about bin Laden's health. The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington- based group that monitors terrorist messages, and provided to the Associated Press. The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region - and it underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. In the video, a short excerpt of which was broadcast to the Arab world by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden wears a white robe, a white circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an address to the American people from papers in front of him. His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is fully black - apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. U.S. President George W. Bush made the rare move of speaking about an al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," Bush said. In the video, Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly call for attacks. Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public opposition in the U.S. He says there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin Laden said. "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace Islam," he said. One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and this alternative is Islam." He derided Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: He harvests nothing but failure." Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the real terrorists and threats to human freedom. "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," he said. Bin Laden's attacks in the video on capitalism, multinational corporations and globalization led several current and former government officials to believe an American - 28-year-old Adam Gadahn - may have written at least part of the speech. Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al- Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization and making insider references to American culture. "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May. He also shows a grasp of current events, dropping mentions of global warming and saying Americans are "reeling under the burdens" of a mortgage crisis. And he praises author Noam Chomsky, an early critic of the Iraq war, as well as Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, who has said poor U.S. leadership was losing the war against terrorist groups. Bin Laden "knows Bush has low approval ratings, knows the significance of a growing awareness of global warming," said Thomas Sanderson, deputy director of the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "He's trying to capitalize on what he sees as a shift back to the middle in American politics." Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the United States. But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his longest period without a message. His deputy, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahri, has issued numerous videos and audiotapes in the meantime as al-Qaida has increased the sophistication and speed of its media operations. Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup. "There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, Jones said. He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it more receptive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida. "It's really created a sanctuary," Jones said. Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that its core bases are more scattered than previously, comprising several training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan. She said it was likely bin Laden is hidden in a more secure location, away from any of those sites. During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of about 3 1/2 minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while his remarks continue. A former senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said it might have resulted from a technical glitch while al-Qaida passed the video through a variety of computer sites to mask its cyber trail. The United States intercepted the video before it was released on Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical characteristics - for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease. Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went down and were inaccessible. Hours later, the sites were back up, but by late Friday, the video still had not been released on the militant Web sites. The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known. Evan H. Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the video leaked to U.S. officials. ___ Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe S. Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message news:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > Americans convert to Islam? Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men and women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my neighborhood knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? Just like the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons??? > Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In > the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like > for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? > > LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems > to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really > looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will > be more than happy to arrange that for him. > > > The time is long overdue to exterminate this dangerous cult of > cockroaches--once and for all. > > > =================================================================== > > > Bin Laden urges Americans to convert By LEE KEATH, Associated Press > Writer > > > CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three > years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the > Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if > they want the war in Iraq to end. > > American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy even > though the video had not been posted yet by al-Qaida - and > intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it > was authentic and looking for clues about bin Laden's health. > > The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington- > based group that monitors terrorist messages, and provided to the > Associated Press. > > The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely > avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes > at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is > regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region - and it > underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. > > In the video, a short excerpt of which was broadcast to the Arab world > by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden wears a white robe, a white > circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an > address to the American people from papers in front of him. > > His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is > fully black - apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly > gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under > his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. > > U.S. President George W. Bush made the rare move of speaking about an > al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in > which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of > Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. > > "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect > ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," > Bush said. > > In the video, Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly > call for attacks. > > Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of > their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public > opposition in the U.S. > > He says there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is > from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against > you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin > Laden said. > > "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace > Islam," he said. > > One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. > He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to > appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and > this alternative is Islam." > > He derided Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" > and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: > He harvests nothing but failure." > > Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the > real terrorists and threats to human freedom. > > "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the > slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves > from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," > he said. > > Bin Laden's attacks in the video on capitalism, multinational > corporations and globalization led several current and former > government officials to believe an American - 28-year-old Adam Gadahn > - may have written at least part of the speech. > > Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for > serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al- > Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization > and making insider references to American culture. > > "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior > intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition > of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. > > The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden > mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of > the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to > the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election > and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May. > > He also shows a grasp of current events, dropping mentions of global > warming and saying Americans are "reeling under the burdens" of a > mortgage crisis. > > And he praises author Noam Chomsky, an early critic of the Iraq war, > as well as Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, > who has said poor U.S. leadership was losing the war against terrorist > groups. > > Bin Laden "knows Bush has low approval ratings, knows the significance > of a growing awareness of global warming," said Thomas Sanderson, > deputy director of the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for > Strategic and International Studies. "He's trying to capitalize on > what he sees as a shift back to the middle in American politics." > > Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks > on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda > opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the > United States. > > But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The > al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October > 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his > longest period without a message. > > His deputy, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahri, has issued numerous videos > and audiotapes in the meantime as al-Qaida has increased the > sophistication and speed of its media operations. > > Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while > the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a > time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup. > > "There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal > areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, > Jones said. > > He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it more > receptive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida. "It's really > created a sanctuary," Jones said. > > Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly > that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that its core bases are more > scattered than previously, comprising several training camps in > Pakistan and Afghanistan. She said it was likely bin Laden is hidden > in a more secure location, away from any of those sites. > > During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of about 3 > 1/2 minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while > his remarks continue. > > A former senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of > anonymity, said it might have resulted from a technical glitch while > al-Qaida passed the video through a variety of computer sites to mask > its cyber trail. > > The United States intercepted the video before it was released on > Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. > counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had > analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were > leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because > of the sensitivity of the issue. > > The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical > characteristics - for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors > earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease. > > Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic > militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went > down and were inaccessible. > > Hours later, the sites were back up, but by late Friday, the video > still had not been released on the militant Web sites. > > The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known. Evan H. > Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he > suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the > video leaked to U.S. officials. > > ___ > > Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew > Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this > report. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 1 Kings 12:18 Then king Rehoboam sent Adoram, who was over the tribute; and all Israel stoned him with stones, that he died. Therefore king Rehoboam made speed to get him up to his chariot, to flee to Jerusalem. Joshua 7:25 And Joshua said, Why hast thou troubled us? the LORD shall trouble thee this day. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. Genesis 38:24 About three months later Judah was told, "Your daughter-in-law Tamar is guilty of prostitution, and as a result she is now pregnant." Judah said, "Bring her out and have her burned to death!" Exodus 32:20 And he took the calf they had made and burned it in the fire; then he ground it to powder, scattered it on the water and made the Israelites drink it. Numbers 15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. 1 Kings 21:13 And there came in two men, children of Belial, and sat before him: and the men of Belial witnessed against him, even against Naboth, in the presence of the people, saying, Naboth did blaspheme God and the king. Then they carried him forth out of the city, and stoned him with stones, that he died. Acts 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul. "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message news:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > Americans convert to Islam? Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In > the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like > for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? > > LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems > to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really > looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will > be more than happy to arrange that for him. > > > The time is long overdue to exterminate this dangerous cult of > cockroaches--once and for all. > > > =================================================================== > > > Bin Laden urges Americans to convert By LEE KEATH, Associated Press > Writer > > > CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three > years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the > Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if > they want the war in Iraq to end. > > American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy even > though the video had not been posted yet by al-Qaida - and > intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it > was authentic and looking for clues about bin Laden's health. > > The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington- > based group that monitors terrorist messages, and provided to the > Associated Press. > > The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely > avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes > at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is > regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region - and it > underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. > > In the video, a short excerpt of which was broadcast to the Arab world > by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden wears a white robe, a white > circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an > address to the American people from papers in front of him. > > His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is > fully black - apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly > gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under > his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. > > U.S. President George W. Bush made the rare move of speaking about an > al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in > which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of > Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. > > "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect > ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," > Bush said. > > In the video, Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly > call for attacks. > > Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of > their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public > opposition in the U.S. > > He says there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is > from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against > you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin > Laden said. > > "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace > Islam," he said. > > One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. > He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to > appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and > this alternative is Islam." > > He derided Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" > and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: > He harvests nothing but failure." > > Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the > real terrorists and threats to human freedom. > > "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the > slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves > from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," > he said. > > Bin Laden's attacks in the video on capitalism, multinational > corporations and globalization led several current and former > government officials to believe an American - 28-year-old Adam Gadahn > - may have written at least part of the speech. > > Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for > serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al- > Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization > and making insider references to American culture. > > "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior > intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition > of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. > > The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden > mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of > the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to > the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election > and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May. > > He also shows a grasp of current events, dropping mentions of global > warming and saying Americans are "reeling under the burdens" of a > mortgage crisis. > > And he praises author Noam Chomsky, an early critic of the Iraq war, > as well as Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, > who has said poor U.S. leadership was losing the war against terrorist > groups. > > Bin Laden "knows Bush has low approval ratings, knows the significance > of a growing awareness of global warming," said Thomas Sanderson, > deputy director of the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for > Strategic and International Studies. "He's trying to capitalize on > what he sees as a shift back to the middle in American politics." > > Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks > on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda > opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the > United States. > > But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The > al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October > 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his > longest period without a message. > > His deputy, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahri, has issued numerous videos > and audiotapes in the meantime as al-Qaida has increased the > sophistication and speed of its media operations. > > Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while > the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a > time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup. > > "There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal > areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, > Jones said. > > He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it more > receptive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida. "It's really > created a sanctuary," Jones said. > > Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly > that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that its core bases are more > scattered than previously, comprising several training camps in > Pakistan and Afghanistan. She said it was likely bin Laden is hidden > in a more secure location, away from any of those sites. > > During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of about 3 > 1/2 minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while > his remarks continue. > > A former senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of > anonymity, said it might have resulted from a technical glitch while > al-Qaida passed the video through a variety of computer sites to mask > its cyber trail. > > The United States intercepted the video before it was released on > Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. > counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had > analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were > leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because > of the sensitivity of the issue. > > The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical > characteristics - for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors > earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease. > > Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic > militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went > down and were inaccessible. > > Hours later, the sites were back up, but by late Friday, the video > still had not been released on the militant Web sites. > > The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known. Evan H. > Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he > suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the > video leaked to U.S. officials. > > ___ > > Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew > Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this > report. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Igor The Terrible Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 On Sep 8, 7:28 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote: > "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in messagenews:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > > > Americans convert to Islam? > > Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men and > women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my neighborhood > knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? They could, but don't bank on it. That requires "constructive" effort on their part. They are like cockroaches; they go and scavenge for the easy pickings. Unfortunately they won't find any around my neck of the woods. There are simply too many households with too many . 338s, 30.06s, 5.56mms, 7.62mms,....... .357s, .40s .44 mag, 9mms, 10mms, and among other things pointing at them that say "Fuck off". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 "Joe S." <noone@nowhere.net> wrote in message news:fbu134012ec@news5.newsguy.com... > "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message > news:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >> Americans convert to Islam? > Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men and > women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my > neighborhood knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? Just like the > Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons??? I hope so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neolibertarian Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 In article <1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, Igor The Terrible <igor_the_terrible@mad.scientist.com> wrote: > Americans convert to Islam? Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In > the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like > for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? > > LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems > to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really > looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will > be more than happy to arrange that for him. Not as long as he's living in comfort and ease on the south shores of the Caspian Sea. -- NeoLibertarian "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." --- Benjamin Franklin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Delancy Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 On Sep 8, 4:28 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote: > "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in messagenews:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > > > Americans convert to Islam? > > Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men and > women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my neighborhood > knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? Just like the Jehovah's > Witnesses and the Mormons??? In our lifetime, Christian extremists will be committing acts of suicidal terrorism. It's only a matter of a charismatic leader and enough hysteria. See the film 'Jesus Camp'. Tom > > Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In > > the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like > > for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? > > > LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems > > to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really > > looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will > > be more than happy to arrange that for him. > > > The time is long overdue to exterminate this dangerous cult of > > cockroaches--once and for all. > > > =================================================================== > > > Bin Laden urges Americans to convert By LEE KEATH, Associated Press > > Writer > > > CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three > > years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the > > Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if > > they want the war in Iraq to end. > > > American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy even > > though the video had not been posted yet by al-Qaida - and > > intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it > > was authentic and looking for clues about bin Laden's health. > > > The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington- > > based group that monitors terrorist messages, and provided to the > > Associated Press. > > > The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely > > avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes > > at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is > > regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region - and it > > underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. > > > In the video, a short excerpt of which was broadcast to the Arab world > > by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden wears a white robe, a white > > circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an > > address to the American people from papers in front of him. > > > His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is > > fully black - apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly > > gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under > > his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. > > > U.S. President George W. Bush made the rare move of speaking about an > > al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in > > which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of > > Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. > > > "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect > > ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," > > Bush said. > > > In the video, Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly > > call for attacks. > > > Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of > > their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public > > opposition in the U.S. > > > He says there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is > > from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against > > you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin > > Laden said. > > > "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace > > Islam," he said. > > > One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. > > He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to > > appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and > > this alternative is Islam." > > > He derided Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" > > and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: > > He harvests nothing but failure." > > > Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the > > real terrorists and threats to human freedom. > > > "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the > > slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves > > from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," > > he said. > > > Bin Laden's attacks in the video on capitalism, multinational > > corporations and globalization led several current and former > > government officials to believe an American - 28-year-old Adam Gadahn > > - may have written at least part of the speech. > > > Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for > > serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al- > > Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization > > and making insider references to American culture. > > > "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior > > intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition > > of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. > > > The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden > > mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of > > the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to > > the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election > > and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May. > > > He also shows a grasp of current events, dropping mentions of global > > warming and saying Americans are "reeling under the burdens" of a > > mortgage crisis. > > > And he praises author Noam Chomsky, an early critic of the Iraq war, > > as well as Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, > > who has said poor U.S. leadership was losing the war against terrorist > > groups. > > > Bin Laden "knows Bush has low approval ratings, knows the significance > > of a growing awareness of global warming," said Thomas Sanderson, > > deputy director of the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for > > Strategic and International Studies. "He's trying to capitalize on > > what he sees as a shift back to the middle in American politics." > > > Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks > > on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda > > opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the > > United States. > > > But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The > > al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October > > 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his > > longest period without a message. > > > His deputy, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahri, has issued numerous videos > > and audiotapes in the meantime as al-Qaida has increased the > > sophistication and speed of its media operations. > > > Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while > > the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a > > time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup. > > > "There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal > > areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, > > Jones said. > > > He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it more > > receptive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida. "It's really > > created a sanctuary," Jones said. > > > Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly > > that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that its core bases are more > > scattered than previously, comprising several training camps in > > Pakistan and Afghanistan. She said it was likely bin Laden is hidden > > in a more secure location, away from any of those sites. > > > During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of about 3 > > 1/2 minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while > > his remarks continue. > > > A former senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of > > anonymity, said it might have resulted from a technical glitch while > > al-Qaida passed the video through a variety of computer sites to mask > > its cyber trail. > > > The United States intercepted the video before it was released on > > Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. > > counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had > > analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were > > leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because > > of the sensitivity of the issue. > > > The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical > > characteristics - for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors > > earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease. > > > Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic > > militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went > > down and were inaccessible. > > > Hours later, the sites were back up, but by late Friday, the video > > still had not been released on the militant Web sites. > > > The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known. Evan H. > > Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he > > suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the > > video leaked to U.S. officials. > > > ___ > > > Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew > > Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this > > report.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Econotron Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 "Tom Delancy" <tomdelancy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1189261442.683354.110360@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 8, 4:28 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote: >> "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in >> messagenews:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >> >> > Americans convert to Islam? >> >> Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men >> and >> women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my >> neighborhood >> knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? Just like the Jehovah's >> Witnesses and the Mormons??? > > In our lifetime, Christian extremists will be committing acts of > suicidal terrorism. [snip] > How long are you planning to live? e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Delancy Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 On Sep 8, 7:33 am, "Econotron" <njmfi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "Tom Delancy" <tomdela...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1189261442.683354.110360@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Sep 8, 4:28 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote: > >> "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in > >> messagenews:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... > > >> > Americans convert to Islam? > > >> Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men > >> and > >> women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my > >> neighborhood > >> knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? Just like the Jehovah's > >> Witnesses and the Mormons??? > > > In our lifetime, Christian extremists will be committing acts of > > suicidal terrorism. > [snip] > > How long are you planning to live? > e.- We can't even guarantee the next few hours. Crazy evangelicals are plotting the Apocalypse, even as I type these words. :/ Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pers3id Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Tom Delancy <tomdelancy@yahoo.com> Spat the Words > On Sep 8, 7:33 am, "Econotron" <njmfi...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Tom Delancy" <tomdela...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1189261442.683354.110360@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Sep 8, 4:28 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote: >> >> "Igor The Terrible" <igor_the_terri...@mad.scientist.com> wrote in >> >> messagenews:1189225274.668385.33670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > Americans convert to Islam? >> >> >> Does this mean that Osama is now preparing to send hordes of young men >> >> and >> >> women, neatly dressed, very polite -- who will walk through my >> >> neighborhood >> >> knocking on doors and asking me to convert?? Just like the Jehovah's >> >> Witnesses and the Mormons??? >> >> > In our lifetime, Christian extremists will be committing acts of >> > suicidal terrorism. >> [snip] >> >> How long are you planning to live? >> e.- > > We can't even guarantee the next few hours. Crazy evangelicals are > plotting the Apocalypse, even as I type these words. Someone should declare war on them and invade their country. Do they have any oil ? >:/ > Tom > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bill Rood Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Igor The Terrible wrote: > Americans convert to Islam? Bin Laden spoke in Arabic. What he said has been translated as "embrace islam". It's questionable whether bin Laden was actually saying that Americans should convert to Islam. I doubt he's so ignorant of American culture that he would believe that's possible or that it would benefit him to suggest it. "Islam" is not just the name of a religion; it's also an Arabic word that means peace or surrender. It could be what bin Laden was saying was that Americans should embrace peace and surrender in Iraq. > Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In > the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like > for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? > > LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems > to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really > looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will > be more than happy to arrange that for him. > > > The time is long overdue to exterminate this dangerous cult of > cockroaches--once and for all. > > > =================================================================== > > > Bin Laden urges Americans to convert By LEE KEATH, Associated Press > Writer > > > CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three > years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the > Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if > they want the war in Iraq to end. > > American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy even > though the video had not been posted yet by al-Qaida - and > intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it > was authentic and looking for clues about bin Laden's health. > > The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington- > based group that monitors terrorist messages, and provided to the > Associated Press. > > The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely > avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes > at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is > regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region - and it > underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. > > In the video, a short excerpt of which was broadcast to the Arab world > by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden wears a white robe, a white > circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an > address to the American people from papers in front of him. > > His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is > fully black - apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly > gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under > his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. > > U.S. President George W. Bush made the rare move of speaking about an > al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in > which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of > Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. > > "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect > ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," > Bush said. > > In the video, Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly > call for attacks. > > Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of > their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public > opposition in the U.S. > > He says there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is > from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against > you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin > Laden said. > > "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace > Islam," he said. > > One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. > He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to > appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and > this alternative is Islam." > > He derided Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" > and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: > He harvests nothing but failure." > > Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the > real terrorists and threats to human freedom. > > "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the > slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves > from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," > he said. > > Bin Laden's attacks in the video on capitalism, multinational > corporations and globalization led several current and former > government officials to believe an American - 28-year-old Adam Gadahn > - may have written at least part of the speech. > > Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for > serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al- > Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization > and making insider references to American culture. > > "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior > intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition > of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. > > The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden > mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of > the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to > the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election > and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May. > > He also shows a grasp of current events, dropping mentions of global > warming and saying Americans are "reeling under the burdens" of a > mortgage crisis. > > And he praises author Noam Chomsky, an early critic of the Iraq war, > as well as Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, > who has said poor U.S. leadership was losing the war against terrorist > groups. > > Bin Laden "knows Bush has low approval ratings, knows the significance > of a growing awareness of global warming," said Thomas Sanderson, > deputy director of the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for > Strategic and International Studies. "He's trying to capitalize on > what he sees as a shift back to the middle in American politics." > > Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks > on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda > opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the > United States. > > But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The > al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October > 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his > longest period without a message. > > His deputy, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahri, has issued numerous videos > and audiotapes in the meantime as al-Qaida has increased the > sophistication and speed of its media operations. > > Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while > the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a > time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup. > > "There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal > areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, > Jones said. > > He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it more > receptive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida. "It's really > created a sanctuary," Jones said. > > Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly > that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that its core bases are more > scattered than previously, comprising several training camps in > Pakistan and Afghanistan. She said it was likely bin Laden is hidden > in a more secure location, away from any of those sites. > > During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of about 3 > 1/2 minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while > his remarks continue. > > A former senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of > anonymity, said it might have resulted from a technical glitch while > al-Qaida passed the video through a variety of computer sites to mask > its cyber trail. > > The United States intercepted the video before it was released on > Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. > counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had > analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were > leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because > of the sensitivity of the issue. > > The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical > characteristics - for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors > earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease. > > Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic > militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went > down and were inaccessible. > > Hours later, the sites were back up, but by late Friday, the video > still had not been released on the militant Web sites. > > The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known. Evan H. > Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he > suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the > video leaked to U.S. officials. > > ___ > > Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew > Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this > report. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Galt Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 "Bill Rood" <wjrood@magnaspeed.net> wrote in message news:wfMEi.597$ZU7.135@newsfe04.lga... > > > Igor The Terrible wrote: >> Americans convert to Islam? > > Bin Laden spoke in Arabic. What he said has been translated as "embrace > islam". It's questionable whether bin Laden was actually saying that > Americans should convert to Islam. "Embrace" is the traditional phraseology used by Islam to describe the conversion process. If you read any Muslim convert/revert stories on the 'net, you'll find that the converts refer to themselves as "embracing Islam" as much as using the more Western terms. I doubt he's so ignorant of American > culture that he would believe that's possible or that it would benefit him > to suggest it. "Islam" is not just the name of a religion; it's also an > Arabic word that means peace or surrender. It could be what bin Laden was > saying was that Americans should embrace peace and surrender in Iraq. There is virtually no chance of that being the accurate interpretation. Add to that the fact that the fulfillment of Islamic eschatology requires a future time where 100% of the Earth's population is Muslim, and bin Laden has been quite clear in prior missives about what he believes his role is in bringing that about. JG > >> Yes sir Osama, we'll get right on it. In >> the mean time, do you have any preference as to how you would you like >> for us to put your fucking brain to sleep? >> >> LMAO!!! This loony, camel humpin' flea bag is something else. Seems >> to me he hasn't had any pussy since pussy had him and he's really >> looking forward to the company of his allocated 72 virgins. We will >> be more than happy to arrange that for him. >> >> >> The time is long overdue to exterminate this dangerous cult of >> cockroaches--once and for all. >> >> >> =================================================================== >> >> >> Bin Laden urges Americans to convert By LEE KEATH, Associated Press >> Writer >> >> >> CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three >> years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the >> Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if >> they want the war in Iraq to end. >> >> American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy even >> though the video had not been posted yet by al-Qaida - and >> intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it >> was authentic and looking for clues about bin Laden's health. >> >> The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington- >> based group that monitors terrorist messages, and provided to the >> Associated Press. >> >> The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely >> avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes >> at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is >> regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region - and it >> underlines the U.S. failure to catch him. >> >> In the video, a short excerpt of which was broadcast to the Arab world >> by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden wears a white robe, a white >> circular cap and a beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an >> address to the American people from papers in front of him. >> >> His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is >> fully black - apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly >> gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under >> his eyes, but his appearance dispelled rumors that he had died. >> >> U.S. President George W. Bush made the rare move of speaking about an >> al-Qaida video. The tape is "a reminder about the dangerous world in >> which we live, he told reporters on the sidelines of a summit of >> Pacific Rim nations in Sydney, Australia. >> >> "It's important that we show resolve and determination to protect >> ourselves, deny al-Qaida safe haven and support young democracies," >> Bush said. >> >> In the video, Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly >> call for attacks. >> >> Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of >> their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public >> opposition in the U.S. >> >> He says there were two solutions to stopping the Iraq war. "One is >> from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against >> you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin >> Laden said. >> >> "The second solution is from your side. ... I invite you to embrace >> Islam," he said. >> >> One result of that, bin Laden said, would be an end to the Iraq war. >> He said "warmongering owners of the major corporations" would rush to >> appease voters who showed they are looking for an alternative, "and >> this alternative is Islam." >> >> He derided Bush, saying events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" >> and the American leader "is like the one who plows and sows the sea: >> He harvests nothing but failure." >> >> Bin Laden frequently criticized capitalism, calling its leaders the >> real terrorists and threats to human freedom. >> >> "This is why I tell you: as you liberated yourselves before from the >> slavery of monks, kings and feudalism, you should liberate yourselves >> from the deception, shackles and attrition of the capitalist system," >> he said. >> >> Bin Laden's attacks in the video on capitalism, multinational >> corporations and globalization led several current and former >> government officials to believe an American - 28-year-old Adam Gadahn >> - may have written at least part of the speech. >> >> Gadahn, who has been charged with treason and supporting terrorism for >> serving as an al-Qaida propagandist, has appeared in several past al- >> Qaida-produced videos, lecturing against capitalism and globalization >> and making insider references to American culture. >> >> "It has Adam Gadahn written all over it," one former senior >> intelligence official said of bin Laden's tape, speaking on condition >> of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. >> >> The video appeared to have been recently made. At one point, bin Laden >> mentions that "several days ago" Japan marked the 62nd anniversary of >> the Aug. 6, 1945, atomic bomb attack on Hiroshima. He also refers to >> the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election >> and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May. >> >> He also shows a grasp of current events, dropping mentions of global >> warming and saying Americans are "reeling under the burdens" of a >> mortgage crisis. >> >> And he praises author Noam Chomsky, an early critic of the Iraq war, >> as well as Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, >> who has said poor U.S. leadership was losing the war against terrorist >> groups. >> >> Bin Laden "knows Bush has low approval ratings, knows the significance >> of a growing awareness of global warming," said Thomas Sanderson, >> deputy director of the Transnational Threats Project at the Center for >> Strategic and International Studies. "He's trying to capitalize on >> what he sees as a shift back to the middle in American politics." >> >> Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks >> on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda >> opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the >> United States. >> >> But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The >> al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October >> 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his >> longest period without a message. >> >> His deputy, Egyptian-born Ayman al-Zawahri, has issued numerous videos >> and audiotapes in the meantime as al-Qaida has increased the >> sophistication and speed of its media operations. >> >> Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while >> the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a >> time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup. >> >> "There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal >> areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, >> Jones said. >> >> He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it more >> receptive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida. "It's really >> created a sanctuary," Jones said. >> >> Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly >> that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that its core bases are more >> scattered than previously, comprising several training camps in >> Pakistan and Afghanistan. She said it was likely bin Laden is hidden >> in a more secure location, away from any of those sites. >> >> During the video, bin Laden's image moves for only a total of about 3 >> 1/2 minutes in two segments, staying frozen the rest of the time while >> his remarks continue. >> >> A former senior U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of >> anonymity, said it might have resulted from a technical glitch while >> al-Qaida passed the video through a variety of computer sites to mask >> its cyber trail. >> >> The United States intercepted the video before it was released on >> Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. >> counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had >> analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were >> leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because >> of the sensitivity of the issue. >> >> The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical >> characteristics - for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors >> earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease. >> >> Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic >> militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went >> down and were inaccessible. >> >> Hours later, the sites were back up, but by late Friday, the video >> still had not been released on the militant Web sites. >> >> The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known. Evan H. >> Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he >> suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the >> video leaked to U.S. officials. >> >> ___ >> >> Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan, Pamela Hess and Matthew >> Lee in Washington and Sarah DiLorenzo in New York contributed to this >> report. >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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