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baxter

Guest
(Dec. 14) - A perplexing new chapter is unfolding in Barack Obama's

racial saga: Many people insist that "the first black president" is

actually not black.

Debate over whether to call this son of a white Kansan and a black

Kenyan biracial, African-American, mixed-race, half-and-half,

multiracial ? or, in Obama's own words, a "mutt" ? has reached a

crescendo since Obama's election shattered assumptions about race.

Obama has said, "I identify as African-American ? that's how I'm

treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words,

the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to

oblige.

But the world has changed since the young Obama found his place in it.

Intermarriage and the decline of racism are dissolving ancient

definitions. The candidate Obama, in achieving what many thought

impossible, was treated differently from previous black generations.

And many white and mixed-race people now view President-elect Obama as

something other than black.

So what now for racial categories born of a time when those from far-

off lands were property rather than people, or enemy instead of

family?

"They're falling apart," said Marty Favor, a Dartmouth professor of

African and African-American studies and author of the book "Authentic

Blackness."

"In 1903, W.E.B. DuBois said the question of the 20th century is the

question of the color line, which is a simplistic black-white thing,"

said Favor, who is biracial. "This is the moment in the 21st century

when we're stepping across that."

Rebecca Walker, a 38-year-old writer with light brown skin who is of

Russian, African, Irish, Scottish and Native American descent, said

she used to identify herself as "human," which upset people of all

backgrounds. So she went back to multiracial or biracial, "but only

because there has yet to be a way of breaking through the need to

racially identify and be identified by the culture at large."

"Of course Obama is black. And he's not black, too," Walker said.

"He's white, and he's not white, too. Obama is whatever people project

onto him ... he's a lot of things, and neither of them necessarily

exclude the other."

----------->

i'm not sure what the big issue is. remember in 1998, when tom beck

was president?? he was black. i had considered he did a marvelous job

devising the lottery idea to put a million people in underground

shelters when that comet was gonna hit the earth. it's not the color

of skin that evaluates the man, but the greater good which is carried

out by the president of the united states of america. richard nixon

wasn't a wonderful president by any means, and he was black. see my

point?? one good president and one bad president. both black. it's not

the skin color, but the man which comes from within.

- bax

 
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mimus

Guest
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:19:41 -0800, baxter wrote:


> (Dec. 14) - A perplexing new chapter is unfolding in Barack Obama's



> racial saga: Many people insist that "the first black president" is



> actually not black.



> Debate over whether to call this son of a white Kansan and a black



> Kenyan biracial, African-American, mixed-race, half-and-half,



> multiracial — or, in Obama's own words, a "mutt" — has reached a



> crescendo since Obama's election shattered assumptions about race.



> Obama has said, "I identify as African-American — that's how I'm



> treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words,



> the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to



> oblige.



> But the world has changed since the young Obama found his place in it.



> Intermarriage and the decline of racism are dissolving ancient



> definitions. The candidate Obama, in achieving what many thought



> impossible, was treated differently from previous black generations.



> And many white and mixed-race people now view President-elect Obama as



> something other than black.



> So what now for racial categories born of a time when those from far-



> off lands were property rather than people, or enemy instead of



> family?



> "They're falling apart," said Marty Favor, a Dartmouth professor of



> African and African-American studies and author of the book "Authentic



> Blackness."



> "In 1903, W.E.B. DuBois said the question of the 20th century is the



> question of the color line, which is a simplistic black-white thing,"



> said Favor, who is biracial. "This is the moment in the 21st century



> when we're stepping across that."



> Rebecca Walker, a 38-year-old writer with light brown skin who is of



> Russian, African, Irish, Scottish and Native American descent, said



> she used to identify herself as "human," which upset people of all



> backgrounds. So she went back to multiracial or biracial, "but only



> because there has yet to be a way of breaking through the need to



> racially identify and be identified by the culture at large."



> "Of course Obama is black. And he's not black, too," Walker said.



> "He's white, and he's not white, too. Obama is whatever people project



> onto him ... he's a lot of things, and neither of them necessarily



> exclude the other."



>



> ----------->



>



> i'm not sure what the big issue is. remember in 1998, when tom beck



> was president?? he was black. i had considered he did a marvelous job



> devising the lottery idea to put a million people in underground



> shelters when that comet was gonna hit the earth. it's not the color



> of skin that evaluates the man, but the greater good which is carried



> out by the president of the united states of america. richard nixon



> wasn't a wonderful president by any means, and he was black. see my



> point?? one good president and one bad president. both black. it's not



> the skin color, but the man which comes from within.


Well, there are still, and probably will be long as we're around on this

planet, racial poles associated with geography, eg take a typical Central

European (Caucasoid), Central Asian (Mongoloid) and Central African

(Negroid), with no funny business, and ask a geneticist, a physical

anthropologist and an ordinary person to pick which of those locations

each is most likely from, and each will score one hundred percent on the

test.

There are of course interbred gradations between those poles, and

variations within those populations (there are at least two distinct

varieties of "blacks" in Africa-- Negroids and San ("Bushmen")-- and the

Tutsi aren't "black"-- Negroids-- at all, they're Caucasoids).

I note the PC crowd is busily trying to deny the reality of race nowadays,

which is typical of them (see their views on *** if you really want a

good laugh, although they prefer to pontificate on "gender", which is

less restricted by actual biology), and reflected as usual in Wikipedia,

which seems to be very heavily patrolled and edited by that crowd, on each

and every subject of interest to them.

--

tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

"You are either insane or a fool."

"I am a sanitary inspector."

< _Maske: Thaery_

 
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baxter

Guest
On Dec 14, 12:39?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:19:41 -0800, baxter wrote:



> > (Dec. 14) - A perplexing new chapter is unfolding in Barack Obama's



> > racial saga: Many people insist that "the first black president" is



> > actually not black.



> > Debate over whether to call this son of a white Kansan and a black



> > Kenyan biracial, African-American, mixed-race, half-and-half,



> > multiracial ? or, in Obama's own words, a "mutt" ? has reached a



> > crescendo since Obama's election shattered assumptions about race.



> > Obama has said, "I identify as African-American ? that's how I'm



> > treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words,



> > the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to



> > oblige.



> > But the world has changed since the young Obama found his place in it.



> > Intermarriage and the decline of racism are dissolving ancient



> > definitions. The candidate Obama, in achieving what many thought



> > impossible, was treated differently from previous black generations.



> > And many white and mixed-race people now view President-elect Obama as



> > something other than black.



> > So what now for racial categories born of a time when those from far-



> > off lands were property rather than people, or enemy instead of



> > family?



> > "They're falling apart," said Marty Favor, a Dartmouth professor of



> > African and African-American studies and author of the book "Authentic



> > Blackness."



> > "In 1903, W.E.B. DuBois said the question of the 20th century is the



> > question of the color line, which is a simplistic black-white thing,"



> > said Favor, who is biracial. "This is the moment in the 21st century



> > when we're stepping across that."



> > Rebecca Walker, a 38-year-old writer with light brown skin who is of



> > Russian, African, Irish, Scottish and Native American descent, said



> > she used to identify herself as "human," which upset people of all



> > backgrounds. So she went back to multiracial or biracial, "but only



> > because there has yet to be a way of breaking through the need to



> > racially identify and be identified by the culture at large."



> > "Of course Obama is black. And he's not black, too," Walker said.



> > "He's white, and he's not white, too. Obama is whatever people project



> > onto him ... he's a lot of things, and neither of them necessarily



> > exclude the other."



>



> > ----------->



>



> > i'm not sure what the big issue is. remember in 1998, when tom beck



> > was president?? he was black. i had considered he did a marvelous job



> > devising the lottery idea to put a million people in underground



> > shelters when that comet was gonna hit the earth. it's not the color



> > of skin that evaluates the man, but the greater good which is carried



> > out by the president of the united states of america. richard nixon



> > wasn't a wonderful president by any means, and he was black. see my



> > point?? one good president and one bad president. both black. it's not



> > the skin color, but the man which comes from within.



>



> Well, there are still, and probably will be long as we're around on this



> planet, racial poles associated with geography, eg take a typical Central



> European (Caucasoid), Central Asian (Mongoloid) and Central African



> (Negroid), with no funny business, and ask a geneticist, a physical



> anthropologist and an ordinary person to pick which of those locations



> each is most likely from, and each will score one hundred percent on the



> test.



>



> There are of course interbred gradations between those poles, and



> variations within those populations (there are at least two distinct



> varieties of "blacks" in Africa-- Negroids and San ("Bushmen")-- and the



> Tutsi aren't "black"-- Negroids-- at all, they're Caucasoids).



>



> I note the PC crowd is busily trying to deny the reality of race nowadays,



> which is typical of them (see their views on *** if you really want a



> good laugh, although they prefer to pontificate on "gender", which is



> less restricted by actual biology), and reflected as usual in Wikipedia,



> which seems to be very heavily patrolled and edited by that crowd, on each



> and every subject of interest to them.



>



> --



> tinmimu...@hotmail.com



>



> smeeter 11 or maybe 12



>



> mp 10



>



> mhm 29x13



>



> "You are either insane or a fool."



> "I am a sanitary inspector."



>



> < _Maske: Thaery_- Hide quoted text -



>



> - Show quoted text -


i guess i'm still of the "what does it matter??" crowd. i just can't

investigate or worry about any issue that just doesn't make sense to

me. even though it could be something pretty **** big. it's just me

being naive i guess.

- bax

 
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mimus

Guest
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:16:09 -0800, baxter wrote:


> On Dec 14, 12:39 pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:



>



>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:19:41 -0800, baxter wrote:



>>



>>> (Dec. 14) - A perplexing new chapter is unfolding in Barack Obama's



>>> racial saga: Many people insist that "the first black president" is



>>> actually not black.



>>> Debate over whether to call this son of a white Kansan and a black



>>> Kenyan biracial, African-American, mixed-race, half-and-half,



>>> multiracial — or, in Obama's own words, a "mutt" — has reached a



>>> crescendo since Obama's election shattered assumptions about race.



>>> Obama has said, "I identify as African-American — that's how I'm



>>> treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words,



>>> the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to



>>> oblige.



>>> But the world has changed since the young Obama found his place in it.



>>> Intermarriage and the decline of racism are dissolving ancient



>>> definitions. The candidate Obama, in achieving what many thought



>>> impossible, was treated differently from previous black generations.



>>> And many white and mixed-race people now view President-elect Obama as



>>> something other than black.



>>> So what now for racial categories born of a time when those from far-



>>> off lands were property rather than people, or enemy instead of



>>> family?



>>> "They're falling apart," said Marty Favor, a Dartmouth professor of



>>> African and African-American studies and author of the book "Authentic



>>> Blackness."



>>> "In 1903, W.E.B. DuBois said the question of the 20th century is the



>>> question of the color line, which is a simplistic black-white thing,"



>>> said Favor, who is biracial. "This is the moment in the 21st century



>>> when we're stepping across that."



>>> Rebecca Walker, a 38-year-old writer with light brown skin who is of



>>> Russian, African, Irish, Scottish and Native American descent, said



>>> she used to identify herself as "human," which upset people of all



>>> backgrounds. So she went back to multiracial or biracial, "but only



>>> because there has yet to be a way of breaking through the need to



>>> racially identify and be identified by the culture at large."



>>> "Of course Obama is black. And he's not black, too," Walker said.



>>> "He's white, and he's not white, too. Obama is whatever people project



>>> onto him ... he's a lot of things, and neither of them necessarily



>>> exclude the other."



>>



>>> ----------->



>>



>>> i'm not sure what the big issue is. remember in 1998, when tom beck



>>> was president?? he was black. i had considered he did a marvelous job



>>> devising the lottery idea to put a million people in underground



>>> shelters when that comet was gonna hit the earth. it's not the color



>>> of skin that evaluates the man, but the greater good which is carried



>>> out by the president of the united states of america. richard nixon



>>> wasn't a wonderful president by any means, and he was black. see my



>>> point?? one good president and one bad president. both black. it's not



>>> the skin color, but the man which comes from within.



>>



>> Well, there are still, and probably will be long as we're around on this



>> planet, racial poles associated with geography, eg take a typical Central



>> European (Caucasoid), Central Asian (Mongoloid) and Central African



>> (Negroid), with no funny business, and ask a geneticist, a physical



>> anthropologist and an ordinary person to pick which of those locations



>> each is most likely from, and each will score one hundred percent on the



>> test.



>>



>> There are of course interbred gradations between those poles, and



>> variations within those populations (there are at least two distinct



>> varieties of "blacks" in Africa-- Negroids and San ("Bushmen")-- and the



>> Tutsi aren't "black"-- Negroids-- at all, they're Caucasoids).



>>



>> I note the PC crowd is busily trying to deny the reality of race nowadays,



>> which is typical of them (see their views on *** if you really want a



>> good laugh, although they prefer to pontificate on "gender", which is



>> less restricted by actual biology), and reflected as usual in Wikipedia,



>> which seems to be very heavily patrolled and edited by that crowd, on each



>> and every subject of interest to them.



>



> i guess i'm still of the "what does it matter??" crowd. i just can't



> investigate or worry about any issue that just doesn't make sense to



> me. even though it could be something pretty **** big. it's just me



> being naive i guess.


Only biologically, and to some extent medically, since some inherited

diseases are race-linked-- for example, sickle-cell anemia represents an

African genetic adaptation that makes the individuals in question's red

blood cells resistant to one or more strains of African malaria, but when

those cells are subjected to cold they function abnormally (it's a typical

genetic trade-off, good in Africa, not so good in Europe or North America).

--

tinmimus99@hotmail.com

smeeter 11 or maybe 12

mp 10

mhm 29x13

Here is the World.

< _Gravity's Rainbow_

 
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metro-golden-meower

Guest
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:16:09 -0800 (PST), baxter <district29@***.net>

wrote:


>On Dec 14, 12:39?pm, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:



>> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:19:41 -0800, baxter wrote:



>> > (Dec. 14) - A perplexing new chapter is unfolding in Barack Obama's



>> > racial saga: Many people insist that "the first black president" is



>> > actually not black.



>> > Debate over whether to call this son of a white Kansan and a black



>> > Kenyan biracial, African-American, mixed-race, half-and-half,



>> > multiracial ? or, in Obama's own words, a "mutt" ? has reached a



>> > crescendo since Obama's election shattered assumptions about race.



>> > Obama has said, "I identify as African-American ? that's how I'm



>> > treated and that's how I'm viewed. I'm proud of it." In other words,



>> > the world gave Obama no choice but to be black, and he was happy to



>> > oblige.



>> > But the world has changed since the young Obama found his place in it.



>> > Intermarriage and the decline of racism are dissolving ancient



>> > definitions. The candidate Obama, in achieving what many thought



>> > impossible, was treated differently from previous black generations.



>> > And many white and mixed-race people now view President-elect Obama as



>> > something other than black.



>> > So what now for racial categories born of a time when those from far-



>> > off lands were property rather than people, or enemy instead of



>> > family?



>> > "They're falling apart," said Marty Favor, a Dartmouth professor of



>> > African and African-American studies and author of the book "Authentic



>> > Blackness."



>> > "In 1903, W.E.B. DuBois said the question of the 20th century is the



>> > question of the color line, which is a simplistic black-white thing,"



>> > said Favor, who is biracial. "This is the moment in the 21st century



>> > when we're stepping across that."



>> > Rebecca Walker, a 38-year-old writer with light brown skin who is of



>> > Russian, African, Irish, Scottish and Native American descent, said



>> > she used to identify herself as "human," which upset people of all



>> > backgrounds. So she went back to multiracial or biracial, "but only



>> > because there has yet to be a way of breaking through the need to



>> > racially identify and be identified by the culture at large."



>> > "Of course Obama is black. And he's not black, too," Walker said.



>> > "He's white, and he's not white, too. Obama is whatever people project



>> > onto him ... he's a lot of things, and neither of them necessarily



>> > exclude the other."



>>



>> > ----------->



>>



>> > i'm not sure what the big issue is. remember in 1998, when tom beck



>> > was president?? he was black. i had considered he did a marvelous job



>> > devising the lottery idea to put a million people in underground



>> > shelters when that comet was gonna hit the earth. it's not the color



>> > of skin that evaluates the man, but the greater good which is carried



>> > out by the president of the united states of america. richard nixon



>> > wasn't a wonderful president by any means, and he was black. see my



>> > point?? one good president and one bad president. both black. it's not



>> > the skin color, but the man which comes from within.



>>



>> Well, there are still, and probably will be long as we're around on this



>> planet, racial poles associated with geography, eg take a typical Central



>> European (Caucasoid), Central Asian (Mongoloid) and Central African



>> (Negroid), with no funny business, and ask a geneticist, a physical



>> anthropologist and an ordinary person to pick which of those locations



>> each is most likely from, and each will score one hundred percent on the



>> test.



>>



>> There are of course interbred gradations between those poles, and



>> variations within those populations (there are at least two distinct



>> varieties of "blacks" in Africa-- Negroids and San ("Bushmen")-- and the



>> Tutsi aren't "black"-- Negroids-- at all, they're Caucasoids).



>>



>> I note the PC crowd is busily trying to deny the reality of race nowadays,



>> which is typical of them (see their views on *** if you really want a



>> good laugh, although they prefer to pontificate on "gender", which is



>> less restricted by actual biology), and reflected as usual in Wikipedia,



>> which seems to be very heavily patrolled and edited by that crowd, on each



>> and every subject of interest to them.



>>



>> --



>> tinmimu...@hotmail.com



>>



>> smeeter 11 or maybe 12



>>



>> mp 10



>>



>> mhm 29x13



>>



>> "You are either insane or a fool."



>> "I am a sanitary inspector."



>>



>> < _Maske: Thaery_- Hide quoted text -



>>



>> - Show quoted text -



>



>i guess i'm still of the "what does it matter??" crowd. i just can't



>investigate or worry about any issue that just doesn't make sense to



>me. even though it could be something pretty **** big. it's just me



>being naive i guess.



>



>- bax


i think the tv networks over your side of the pond rigged the election

so all the series they make with a black pezz in them don't seem to

far fetched.

 
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