Guest sandman Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Permanent Top Post This site deals primarily with the mechanism of demolition of the WTC. See "China Syndrome at the WTC" for articles pertaining to the aftermath of the WTC nuclear demolition and the extreme heat phenomena seen at "Ground Zero". posted by spooked @ 8:21 AM Friday, August 24, 2007 Brief Evidence of Nuclear bombs used at the WTC on 9/11/01 From the Anonymous Physicist, extracted from here. -- the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes -- massive outward explosions as seen in videos of the towers' "collapses" -- the vaporization of a large steel press in the WTC basement -- the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel/concrete door -- the spherical blast wave destruction -- the "nuclear meteorite" (a chunk of WTC debris with 4 floors fused together) -- the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses -- the burned or hanging skin (Felipe David), without fire, like so many Hiroshima victims -- the responders' teeth later falling out (Tartaglia), like numerous American Army A-Bomb test veterans/victims -- the missing, presumably vaporized, building contents -- the missing, presumably vaporized 1157 people, unaccounted for at Ground Zero -- the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed (and photographed) by so many firefighter and responders at least six months after 9/11 -- the clothing discarding from rescue workers -- the decontamination procedures of rescue workers -- EMT Ondrovic's account of Electromagnetic Pulse and instantaneous resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5,6, were being exploded from within, near her (explained here) -- the micro- or nano-fine particle debris/dust size -- much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear bombs in the WTC on 9/11. The witnesses for nukes that my articles have cited, included: -- numerous WTC workers, including Felipe David, -- numerous firefighters, including Bronx firefighter Joe O'Toole -- EMT worker Patricia Ondrovic -- numerous first responders, including Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia -- WTC stationary engineer Pecoraro -- fire engineering professor Dr. Barnett -- top British and American Structural Engineers including Keith Eaton, PhD who were shown "secret" molten steel photos denied to the rest of us -- Leslie E. Robertson, {American] Structural Engineer (and partial designer of WTC) -- Kenneth Holden NYC Commissioner -- Thomas von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner -- policeman: many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) -- other on-scene witnesses have-- for the moment-likely have been silenced, as detailed herein-- which is witness tampering, and worse. Scientific data have also been cited, including - -- AVIRIS, -- LIDAR, -- seismic readings before "collapse", -- Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study) -- the now exploding number of "rare" CANCERS among responders, including thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims posted by spooked @ 7:48 AM More Evidence & Testimony Indicating Nuclear Blasts, Nuclear Radiation, & China Syndrome at the WTC By The Anonymous Physicist Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia, a WTC responder, rescue worker, counselor, and FEMA consultant has made many remarkable statements related to the nuking of the WTC, and its China Syndrome aftermath. Tartaglia, said he believes "tactical nukes" took down the towers, and was responsible for the high temperatures weeks and months later (but does not know of the existence of the China Syndrome.) His statements include these: ".There were only certain parts of the site that you could not legally leave without going through decontamination..They would tackle you and take your camera away. I watched people be tackled." Most responders couldn't go "down in the garages.The rescue people - when our clothes got so contaminated, we were told not to bring our clothes off that site. Don't wear anything on the site you're not prepared to leave there because it's contaminated." Note that "discarding clothing", and "going through decontamination" are standard nuclear industry methods of dealing with radiation-exposed individuals. I do not know if other industries necessitate the use of these methods as well. In 2005, Sgt. Tartaglia said, "My teeth are falling out." Like hanging skin resulting from a nuclear bomb, teeth falling out is a common symptom, months or years later, from nuclear radiation exposure. (Other factors can also possibly cause this, but are less likely.) Read about this Army veteran sent to Hiroshima, just days after it was nuked, to bulldoze roads. This was apparently much too soon to send Americans in to Hiroshima, but the PTB apparently cared as much about Americans, as they did about the Japanese women and children who were nuked. I note that after the July 16, 1945 Trinity "A-Bomb" test, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer and General Leslie Groves did not return to Ground Zero until five weeks later on Sept 11, 1945. Yes, there is 9/11 again. So man did not walk again on the first alleged Ground Zero which resulted from the "Manhattan Project" until 9/11/45. Also read here about 3 veterans of atomic bomb tests in Nevada in the 1950's who had their teeth fall out within a few years of their radiation exposure. [To quickly find the 3 veterans cited, search on "teeth."] That article also indicates that the gov't lied to them as to the amount of radiation they had received. It is excerpted from the book, "They Never Knew: The Victims of Atomic Testing", [not read here] by Glenn Alan Cheney. See also "The Plutonium Files" by Welsome, and the two books on the "Making of the A-Bomb", and the H-Bomb, "Dark Sun", both by Rhodes--all three read here. But please read this (portions of the book, They Never Knew) in its entirety. It includes the following remarkable quote that may be very relevant to 9/11 research. A whistleblower came forward decades later about the actual radiation exposure Army personnel were subjected to. "In 1982, a former Army medic, Van R. Brandon, admitted that he had been ordered to keep two sets of books. "One set was to show that no one received an exposure above the approved dosimeter reading," he said. "The other set of books was to show what the actual reading was. That set of books was brought in a locked briefcase attached to [an officer]'s wrist by a set of handcuffs every morning." Army personnel were denied medical benefits and disability because the regime publicly used the "cooked" book. Do you think this same govt has gotten more or less evil, corrupt, and duplicitous, in the ensuing decades--and in a matter that relates to possibly irradiating tens of thousands of WTC workers, responders, and near-by residents. The statements made by Mike Pecoraro, a WTC1 stationary engineer, and 9/11 survivor, are also remarkable. Pecoraro first knew something was wrong after observing flickering lights (EMP?), and then he ascended to the sub-basement C level, from below. He says, "There was nothing there but rubble, we're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press gone!" Pecoraro and a co-worker "made their way to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone". As they ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they "were astonished to see a steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up like a piece of aluminum foil" and lying on the floor. Now I assert that this too is a likely sign that a nuclear bomb went off. Perhaps only the multi-million degree temperature at the hypocenter, or neutron bombardment, is capable of doing that to that heavy steel door. The article continues: ""They got us again,"" Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist attack at the center in 1993. Having been through that bombing, Mike recalled seeing similar things happen to the building's structure." This last statement from Pecoraro, I assert may be corroboration of nuclear engineer/geologist Phil Schneider's statement that his inspection of the 1993 WTC explosion damage revealed to him that it was a nuclear blast, that may have gone awry, that is, was insufficient. (See my previous articles at wtcdemolition.blogspot.com.) Pecoraro states that as WTC2 "collapsed," "there was a wind that came through the revolving doors that blew me [in the WTC1 lobby area] 100 feet to the far wall" Was this a nuclear pressure blast? You've probably seen the videos of A-bomb test sites, and resultant winds blowing down model houses, and heat causing fires. Like this and this. More evidence of the likely nuking of the WTC, and China Syndrome aftermath, comes from no less than CNN's Larry King Show. This show aired on 10/6/01, and was taped at the WTC, and a nearby burn unit, in the days prior to the air-date. The transcript is here. Regarding the likely China Syndrome of high heat three weeks later, Thomas Von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner, says, at the WTC, ".it's so hot, it's a really hot fire. The steel has been hot for three weeks now. Tremendous heat below, you know. It's -- the fire is not out down below." From my earlier articles, you know that this went on for at least six months after 9/11. At the Weill Burn Center at the Cornell Medical Hospital, Larry King interviews two women who received burns-without any fire--while trying to flee WTC1. King: "So, did you know you were on fire, in a sense?" Yang: "No, I wasn't on fire, I think it was from the heat." Mary Jo: "That's what we were told, it was the heat." So like Felipe David, like the Hiroshima survivors, these two women have no clue as to why their skin was burned. And who told them "it was from the heat"? And if it was the doctors, who told them to say this to the patients? Note that King says ".fire in a sense." I assert that that sense is not fire per se, but bombardment by radiation (thermal rays, gamma rays, neutrons) that can cause heat at the skin, and damage the skin--if the flux is large enough (relevant parameters include distance, shielding, intensity and type of radiation). King also interviews burn victim Brian Reeves, a security guard starting his rounds in the lobby of one of the towers. Reeves says: "I don't know when I got burned, but I just know when it knocked me over, there was -- there was something, the windows blew out. And when the windows blew out, I was on the ground, and like I said, there was a gust of wind. And when I opened my eyes, I seen a bright orange light." Reeves, feeling heat on his back, takes his jacket off and falls on the ground while fleeing. There is the issue of whether his jacket is on fire or not. [Months later, the media would morph the "bright orange light" into "fireball."] We must ask, did Reeves see the flash of, and receive the radiation, and air pressure blast from, a mini-nuke? Like the Hiroshima victims, he knows there had to be "something" but he/they didn't see what burned him/them. In this video, months after 9/11, Reeves then says "the fire was this close to my face" (and holds his hand near his face). He did not say any such thing 2-3 weeks after 9/11, when interviewed by King. Getting back to the King show, Dr. Roger Yurt of the Weill Burn Center says, "[Reeve's] worst burns were on his back, some burns up on his head. Burns on your arms also." My possible interpretation is the following. Likely his jacket was not on fire (note the burns on his head), and the jacket likely shielded him from receiving even more radiation! The source of which was apparently behind him, as his burns were mostly on his back, but also on his head. But if the flux of radiation is high enough, a person and/or their clothes will catch fire from the radiation. Many Hiroshima victims were immediately killed and left in a charred state. The "bright orange flash" he "saw" may well have been a flux of radiation onto his retina. This kind of thing is again known from Army veterans of the nuclear blasts in Nevada in the 1950's. In the worst cases, numerous Army personnel were forced to be, in ditches, only a football field away from an atomic bomb going off! But when Brian tells his story months later, the reporter adds "fireball" several times in her telling the story. Even the direction of the alleged fireball is cleverly, and falsely, inserted: ". a fireball that roared down the elevator shaft." In actuality, from numerous lobby, and sub-basement witnesses, a non-fireball, a likely nuclear detonation, occurred below the lobby, and its effects traveled UP a few floors-and not down some 80-90 floors from the likely conventional explosion above. In any case, Reeves did not observe what may, or may not, have been traversing the elevator shaft. It appears that in the telling of the 9/11 survivors' accounts, the MSM, and the 911 pseudo-truth media, are doing everything they can to add "fire" and "fireball" to the later retelling of numerous survivors' tales. And these survivors, who did not report "fire" initially, and not knowing about such things as radiation-induced burns-without any fire-may later start including this in their own accounts, after doctors, or reporters, or hidden (or not so hidden) handlers either keep repeating the "fire" and "fireball" memes to them; or perhaps in some cases threatening/rewarding the survivors to start telling it the way their handlers demand. Never forget how FBI, or secret service agents, both on the scene in Dallas and later during depositions, threatened eyewitnesses to President Kennedy's assassination, if they either said they clearly saw the Secret Service driver do it, or that there also were shots from the grassy knoll. Experts in eyewitness testimony tell us that the most accurate account is the closest in time to the event. Remember how sub-basement, 9/11 burn victim Felipe David's own accounting never mentions "fire" or "fireball," but his alleged rescuer, William Rodriquez added fire or fireball to his accounting of David's experiences. You will have to be the judge after reading survivors' accounts shortly after the event, and then months later after media/(govt?) interviews. This is a crucial point in the likely tampering of witnesses to a heinous crime. It is particularly odious as this may be ongoing from deep-cover intel assets in the major, AND internet "truth", media. But if the government/media had nothing to fear, or cover-up, why do they have to change so many burn victims' testimonies? Likewise they are frequently inserting "plane hits" into statements, when the witness couldn't possibly have seen that, even if the plane hits were real, instead of CGI. I believe we are only scratching the surface regarding evidence of the use of mini-nukes on 9/11. Many fire and police witnesses fear losing their jobs, or their pensions. Beginning a month after 9/11, NYC Fire Commissioner von Essen's office took depositions of 503 fire personnel, port authority police and EMT first responders. The report is 12,000 pages long and rarely read [and not read here]. It was deliberately excluded from the 911 Commission, and NIST, reports (scroll down at link). Could they be hiding evidence, not of the widely known explosions/controlled demolition, but specifically of the nuking of the towers and 3000 people? After von Essen's 503 witness interviews, former CIA director Robert Woolsey, was inserted into this in 2002, as the NYC Fire Department's "Anti-terrorism Consultant." (It's interesting that Wikipedia omits this job in his bio.) He issued a gag order, under threat of job loss and worse, down the ranks, under the guise of "anti-terrorism." This report is the one that includes EMT, Patricia Ondrovic' [see my articles on her here] heavily redacted, but remarkable interview. Recall my analysis demonstrated she witnessed Electromagnetic Pulse from a nuclear bomb causing flickering lights and making cars catch fire, for no apparent reason ("toasted cars"), right near her, and also jets shooting down other jets in the sky over the Hudson. Was Woolsey in charge of the redacting, of her, and other, testimony? I make the assertion that the very purpose of interviewing these 503 9/11 witnesses and responders was to find out who had witnessed evidence of the nuking of the WTC, and to then threaten, and silence them! Perhaps too many to kill, so first try to silence them! Here are the full 503 interviews. It would be good if some real 911 researcher could read them all or search for when portions are redacted. Note my scanning them indicates that numerous witnesses report "explosions;" this was not reason enough for redaction! There is other eyewitness (or should I say skinwitness) evidence, I believe of the heat, and radiation, wave which emanates outwards from a nuclear blast from numerous people who happened to be in the vicinity of the towers. This article states that "John Axisa, who was getting off a commuter train to the World Trade Center, .[after the alleged first plane hit]. Then there was a second explosion, and he felt heat on the back of [his] neck." Note the timing of the "second" explosion he heard--nothing from which was seen exiting the building--and yet he felt the heat at that exact time! This again could only be from a nuke, I assert. (The DEW hangout theorists always say their alleged DEW is cold.) Also at a 911 forum, a forum administrator named Quest noted that, "I have an acquaintance who was a NYC cop on 9/11 when the second tower came down. He was 3 blocks away and told me there was "incredible heat" during the "collapse"." Heat indeed is the thing that would be felt furthest out from a nuclear blast. Read this account of physicist, Dr. Phillip Morrison 10 miles from the Trinity nuclear test site. He said, "Suddenly, not only was there a bright light, but where we were, 10 miles away, there was the heat of the sun on our faces." [This was before the Sun came up.] So we see the similarity of statements, regarding heat during a nuclear blast, made by the Trinity witness, John Axisa, Quest's policeman, Felipe David, and the three burn victims interviewed by Larry King. I have written that the nukes used on 9/11 were 1/100th to 1/1000th (each) of the intensity of the Trinity blast (with several per tower used, and only one per smaller WTC buildings) and we also have some shielding by the building. So the distance that radiation would be able to propagate would be vastly less than the 10 miles felt by Dr. Morrison (noted above), where the test was in the open air. Those in the towers, and nearby, would indeed be bombarded by the (unseen) radiation from a mini-nuke. Given these ideas from this physicist, who has taught physics at several universities, can Quest please further interview his cop friend, and get back to us here at comments, or via email to Spooked? There has been at least one study published of WTC responders' medical problems treated on scene, from 9/14/01 to 11/20/1, at the WTC. This was published in May-June, 2005, of "Prehospital and Disaster Medicine," and was authored by: K.R. Peritt, W.L. Boal, and "The Helix Group, Inc." This third "author" listed is a media corporation. (I did not know that corporations, per se, could now be authors?) This study related to a 10 week period whereby a Federal govt agency, the "United States Public Health Service (USPHS), deployed Disaster Medical Assistance Teams (DMATs) and the Commissioned Corps to provide on-site, primary medical care to anyone who presented." The authors conclusion admits, the "USPHS visits probably were skewed to milder complaints when compared to analyses of employer medical department reports or hospital cases." This appears to mean that the more serious cases went straight to the hospital. There were 9,349 on-site patient visits, which included some surrounding residents. There were 30 cases of nausea and vomiting. Let us look at skin conditions reported. There were 253 1st or 2nd degree burns, of which 107 (42%) were said to be related to equipment use. There is no word on what caused the other 58% of these burns. In addition, there are 132 cases of "other" skin problems reported. There is not a single case of third degree burns (the most serious), and no comment on this lack! Were there people with more serious burns that went straight to the hospital, and thus are not counted? There are some curious statistics: "Other injury or illness: 696 cases," and "Not classifiable as an injury or illness: 920 cases." That's quite a lot of cases that are either "other" or "not classifiable," about 17%. Why such a high percentage? They're not "psychological" because they reported 78 cases of this. Is any medical condition being covered up? Did they test for radiation which is not mentioned? And what caused the 146 cases of burns that were not due to equipment handling? And how many people had third degree burns among the responders? Or is this classified information, related to what really was happening at the WTC, even after its demolition? This study is very troubling, and looks very "doctored." In conclusion now, this article, and my previous articles archived at wtcdemolition.blogspot.com and wtc-ChinaSyndrome.blogspot.com indicate the following. The proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes , the massive outward explosions seen, the vaporization of a steel press, the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel door, spherical blast wave destruction, the "nuclear meteorite,[parts of 4 storeys fused together at extreme temp.,]" the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses, the burned or hanging skin--without fire, the responders' teeth later falling out, the vaporized building contents, the 1157 vaporized people, the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed by many at least six months after 9/11, and photographed, the clothing discarding, and decontamination procedures, my detailed explanation of Ondrovic' account of Electromagnetic Pulse and resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5, 6, were being exploded from within, near her, the micro- or nano-fine particle size, and much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear bombs in the WTC on 9/11. The witnesses that my articles have cited, included numerous WTC workers, numerous firefighters, EMT worker, responders, stationary engineer, fire engineering professor, top British and American Structural Engineers who have been shown "secret" photos denied to the rest of us, NYC Commissioner, NYC Fire Commissioner, policeman, and others. Many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) other on-scene witnesses have-for the moment-likely been silenced, as detailed herein-which is witness tampering, and worse. Scientific data have also been cited, including -AVIRIS, LIDAR, seismic readings before "collapse", Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study), and the now exploding number of "rare" cancers among responders, including thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims. Other data, I have asserted has been altered, or is totally hidden--second long-delayed AVIRIS data set, and the lack of any further AVIRIS released. I assert and accuse- J'Accuse"-that the preponderance of this evidence demonstrates that the federal government of the United States of America did explode nuclear bombs inside most of the WTC buildings on 9/11/01. Furthermore, there was a resultant China Syndrome (through mechanisms detailed here by me previously) of nuclear reacting fragments releasing ionizing radiation, and high heat, for at least six months after 9/11, causing molten steel, and radiation exposure to thousands of responders and NYC residents. This was an act of treason, conspiracy, mass murder, genocide, and a ruse for waging war on innocent peoples around the world-crimes against humanity, and a ruse for blatantly eradicating American citizens freedoms and rights. The 9/11 WTC nuclear holocaust was not likely even the first time the American regime did this to its own citizens! Too few people know of this research into the American government's probable nuking of American sailors in 1944. The 9/11 perpetrators have used, and are using, limited hangouts and psyops to keep the people from knowing this. These hangouts, ultimately from the U.S. regime's "intelligence" agencies, include the bogus "theories" of the official planes/fuel/gravity/pancaking nonsense, and also thermite, DEW, and Depleted Uranium [D.U.] (any uranium used on 9/11 at the WTC, and the China Syndrome aftermath, would have been highly enriched, not depleted). The observed American military helicopters and planes directing the initial explosions, and the final nuclear destruction prove that this was not done by Arabs, Muslims, Iranians, Israelis, Russians, or Chinese. As with the Kennedy Assassination, this massive set of actions, and massive cover-up, could only have been perpetrated by the so-called government of the United States, and not by any small "rogue elements" therein. Complicit in the original act, and/or its cover-up, are all the branches of the federal government, its military, and intelligence agencies, and the Main Stream Media, and even much of the so-called alternative or internet media which is also laden with intel agents posing as "truthers," while pushing the hangouts listed above. The people of the world must get together, in what may be their final hour, and act literally to save themselves from extermination, from the handful of monsters that control humanity. Nature has demonstrated that individuals trained to be fearful can all come together, and overcome this fear, and act and defeat the small number who had previously seemed to be so invincible and bloodthirsty. We are indeed likewise in the jaws of these monsters, and have been for a long time; but likewise again, it is still possible to break free, and be free. We must try. Like this last video, there are so many more of us, than of them. posted by spooked @ 6:34 AM Monday, August 20, 2007 Proof of the Existence of Mini-Nukes and Micro-Nukes From the Anonymous Physicist More and more people are realizing that other theories proposed could not have destroyed the WTC, and are limited hangouts. As more people realize that the WTC was likely demolished via small nuclear bombs (likely with subsidiary conventional explosives), some are now claiming that milli-nukes (mini-nukes), or micro-nukes don't even exist. Spooked and I have addressed this issue before. Here first is proof of the "Nuclear rifle" from the 1950's, no less. The .01 kiloton (kt) TNT equivalent is about 1/1000th of the Hiroshima (20KT) blast. And here is a govt scientist, Peter Leitner, PhD, speaking to a Congressional Committee, in 1998. This is proof of nuclear bombs down into the range of "several pounds of TNT." He stated, "These experiments involve the ACTUAL TESTING of extremely low-yield fission devices (as low as the equivalent of several pounds of TNT) within a confined environment." Several pounds of TNT is equivalent to about 1/10,000,000th (one ten millionth) of the Hiroshima blast. Thus the U.S. Govt admitted having micro-nukes, and beyond in 1998. Note that this public admission stated that the testing was done "in a controlled environment." Clearly, the gov't has had milli-nukes and micro-nukes for some time. posted by spooked @ 7:43 AM Monday, July 09, 2007 Hanging Skin and Nuclear Blasts Another remarkable finding from Anonymous Physicist-- the hanging skin of 9/11 casualty Felipe David is a striking piece of evidence indicating a nuclear blast in the basement of the WTC. Where in the World is Felipe David-- and Did He Survive Exposure to Nuclear Radiation? By The Anonymous Physicist Assuming the following tale is not completely psyops, then on 9/11, Felipe David, employed by Aramark Corp., was checking or replenishing vending machines in one of the basement levels of WTC1. (Curiously Aramark Corp has Thomas Kean-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission--as one of its Board Directors since 1994.) The following is supposedly Felipe David's account of what happened beginning just before the first plane "hit." "That day I was in the basement in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the explosion below, dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got real hot. I threw myself onto the floor, covered my face because I felt like I was burned. I sat there for a couple of seconds on the floor and felt like I was going to die, saying to myself 'God, please give me strength.' "When I went in, I told them it was an explosion," said David, who was then helped out of the WTC by Rodriguez and eventually taken by ambulance to New York Hospital. "When people looked at me with my skin hanging, they started crying but I heard others say 'OK, good, good, you made it alive. [This ends the extract from the first URL above.] Now I would like people to note that nowhere in the above quote, allegedly direct from Mr. David, does he mention fire. He states that he felt and heard explosion(s), and then "it got real hot." He never says he saw any fire. This may be crucial. However when you read of his story through the words of William Rodriguez, "fire" is added into the story. "He had been standing in front of a freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries." Reports, as we shall see, differ greatly as to how he got to the vicinity of other workers for help, including keymaster William Rodriguez, of whom we have already seen much "coincidence" and strangeness. We have the "most official" story (always the one to be most wary of for those in the know) that he staggered into Rodriguez' office or area, and Rodriguez helped him outside, and into an ambulance. Some earlier reports even stated that Rodriguez carried Mr. David. The following site no longer works, but I copied the following from google: "Rodriguez carried Felipe David out of the building and re-entered it to rescue two men trapped on the elevator who were in danger of ... " But this Christian organization's website quotes Mr David saying he ran six blocks for help! "I asked God to give me strength. And I was able to get up and run six blocks to find an exit," Mr. David says. Then we have this remarkable TV interview that morning with Kenny Johannemann. Mr. Johannemann states that he was the one who helped David, "I dragged a guy off. His skin was hanging. I helped him into an ambulance" Note that there is no mention of Rodriguez. Wise individuals have suggested that perhaps no one interviewed on TV on 9/11 was genuine. Notice how the camera angle changes and zooms in on him, just as he is asked about "terrorism." The regime had long range plans, and a carefully crafted script. Note how Johannemann's arms flail just like another 9/11 witness that morning who has been shown to be bogus. He, of course, could be telling the truth (and each of you will have to draw your own conclusions), but I cannot find anything on him in recent years. So we have at least four accounts as follows: Rodriquez helped David to an ambulance. Rodriquez carried David to an ambulance. Johannemann helped David to an ambulance. David ran six blocks to an ambulance. Of course, in the shock and excitement of such events, we know that accounts can differ, and we cannot make any definitive conclusions in this regard. Now, let us return to Felipe David's "hanging skin." What caused this? It is always possible that some conventional fire or explosives caused his burns and the hanging skin on his face and arms. But we saw that David himself did not mention "fire." So we may conclude that it wasn't any direct fire that caused this. A conventional explosive blast could have done this. But this too may not be so likely, as such blasts may be expected to cause different types of wounds deep into the face and arms. But that is still a possibility, as is a fire that he just didn't see. That brings us to one possible cause of his hanging skin, that indeed he couldn't possibly have seen! That is radiation from a mini-nuke, which may have just exploded, at that time, in one of the sub-basement levels. One is not capable of seeing the radiation (gamma rays, neutrons) emitted by a nuclear blast. One will just feel the heat, then pain and then the skin will be damaged, and may either be vaporized, charred or hanging-depending on the flux intensity (distance, wavelength/type of the radiation etc. are factors here). This eyewitness account on the survivors of the Hiroshima nuclear attack describes how common was damaged, hanging skin amongst them. (You can use your "find" function and search on "hanging.") I assert my following interpretation of Mr. David's words is the most likely account of what happened to Mr. David. He hears and feels explosion(s). He doesn't see any fire coming at him, but is surprised to feel great heat on his skin, and goes to the floor. He then is further shocked to feel and see his skin burned and hanging. All this is very much like what the burn victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki reported. Now radiation exposure to the skin should result in significant swelling. But we have no photos or videos of Mr. David, until this Youtube video (in Spanish) allegedly three months later, when Mr. Rodriguez visits Mr. David. David's face does look (still?) a bit swollen, but not much. But this is allegedly three months later, without any allowed record of what his face, arms and legs looked like until that point in time. Why do we not have any photos or video of Mr David until that point in time? Could he have had massive skin swelling, beginning almost immediately after his skin was damaged by "something," possibly radiation from a nuclear blast? Could they have only trotted Mr. David out after his swelling had come down to a "normal" level? Finally I note that there seems to be nothing in the public record on Felipe David for the last five years or so! Even though he "too" could be regarded as a "hero." Why do we not know where he is, and his status? Hopefully Felipe David is OK. Hopefully he did not get cancer, or other medical problems, or suffer a strange "accident." Hopefully truly independent researchers will find him, and get his story direct from him, when he wouldn't be surrounded by any public media, or "handlers" from the government, or any other interference. With the dearth of information forced upon us, we may ask: Where in the world is Felipe David? What has he been doing these last five years or so? And is Felipe David the (only?) radiation survivor of a mini-nuke at the World Trade Center on 9/11? Does he share a kindred experience with those who were in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in those early days of August 1945 that marked the dawn of a new, horrible age? We must recognize that just like the World Trade Center on 9/11, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also called.Ground Zero. posted by spooked @ 5:15 AM China Syndrome The "China Syndrome" Came to New York City on 9/11 By The Anonymous Physicist Some people may not have not fully grasped the significance, and necessity, of my hypothesis on heat generating criticality sites at the WTC after 9/11. Some shills have actually, and laughably, attempted to claim thermite could have been been responsible for these high temperatures and molten steel. Any attempt to have a complete theory of 9/11 must include the WTC demolition on 9/11 itself, and crucially its aftermath of the great hotpsots and molten steel, up to five months afterwards. The latter being supported by irrefutable, numerous eyewitnesses, and photographs and at least one AVIRIS overflight temperature data set. (With the second, long-delayed release of overflight data likely being bogus, as claimed here.) It is risible that a shill physicist claims this photo, of a crane lifting molten steel weeks after 9/11, as "proof" of thermite use on 9/11. Now while thermite, or other conventional explosive, may have been used in some subsidiary capacity on 9/11, my earlier articles have highlighted how only mini-nukes could have accounted for all the phenomena of the 9/11 WTC demolitions. It is not unexpected, but still sickening, to see how a shill physicist has claimed that the molten steel weeks after 9/11 "proves" thermite alone brought down the WTC towers. He HAS to claim that, for he knows well that the real source of this molten steel, weeks later, is nuclear reactions. I have stated that only nuclear criticality sites could be the source of heat GENERATION weeks, and months after 9/11. You can find, say on Youtube, numerous videos of thermite being used to melt things, yes, including metal- but no vaporization. Note that the thermite is not being used as an explosive when it is seen melting through a car, e.g. But some of those videos clearly show that after just a few minutes, the molten thermite residue cools off and no longer glows. It is highly likely that any thermite at the WTC on 9/11 would have cooled off within hours. Indeed, I have stated that even the momentary maximum temperature of a nuke's hypocenter (up to 100 million degrees), is known to cool off relatively quickly. You can ascertain this rapid cooling off in regards to the Trinity Site, or Hiroshima or Nagasaki, or even H-Bomb test sites. The temperatures returned to normal at all these sites relatively quickly. Now some claim that oxygen starved fires could allow for vastly longer high temperature fires underground at the WTC. These people don't seem to realize they have just proven the case ONLY for nuclear chain reactions!! Because only nuclear chain reactions release massive heat almost indefinitely, without needing ANY oxygen whatsoever! This is not the case for any conventional (non-nuclear) fire. This "indefinite" massive heat source was the basis for the term "China Syndrome" in regards to a nuclear reactor mishap which, in theory (but not really due to other factors), could have massive indefinite heat leading to a nuclear reactor criticality (core) remnant burning all the way through to China. This remarkable article on Chernobyl actually states that the China Syndrome occurred at Chernobyl. It says, "'China Syndrome' of meltdown had taken place inside the reactor core. Thermal explosion and outbreak of fires in over thirty places were due to high-temperature and falling uranium core fragments on to the roofs of adjacent buildings." So here we see learn that the nuclear core had exploded into many pieces of- apparently still critically reacting uranium fragments--with their concomitant high temperatures. But this is just the kind of thing I cited in my WTC 9/11 nuclear demolition hypothesis of nukes exploding either other unexploded mini-nukes, or nukes exploding the reactors in the Nuclear Borers. So perhaps my previous term, "criticality sites" regarding the source of high temperatures and molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 is too vague. Instead I propose that from now on we think of this aftermath of molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 as. "The China Syndrome came to New York City on 9/11." posted by spooked @ 5:14 AM Sunday, July 01, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 You ever notice that the same morons and nuts who believe in the science and scientist of gullible warming. Completely discount the science and scientist and engineers who explained the collapse of the WTC? What's wrong with this picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest B Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:180oej.jtu.19.1@news.alt.net... > Paranoid imbecile moron's like you are going to go to your grave. Foaming and drooling at the mouth, mumbling something about "micronukes" and the WTC. Please make it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Docky Wocky Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 One thing for sure. Whenever kooks grab onto something and other kooks begin explaining the whys and wherefors of the something, the orginal kooks have to do the other kooks one better and invent kookier and kookier theories to explain the original something.They even bring in kook scientists, who, under other circumstances and before political correctness, would have been termed kookie scientists. It is oneupskookship in action. It always eventually comes down to one set of kooks oyvaysmearing the other kooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sandman Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 See "China Syndrome at the WTC" for articles pertaining to the aftermath of the WTC nuclear demolition and the extreme heat phenomena seen at "Ground Zero". posted by spooked @ 8:21 AM Friday, August 24, 2007 Brief Evidence of Nuclear bombs used at the WTC on 9/11/01 From the Anonymous Physicist, extracted from here. -- the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes -- massive outward explosions as seen in videos of the towers' "collapses" -- the vaporization of a large steel press in the WTC basement -- the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel/concrete door -- the spherical blast wave destruction -- the "nuclear meteorite" (a chunk of WTC debris with 4 floors fused together) -- the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses -- the burned or hanging skin (Felipe David), without fire, like so many Hiroshima victims -- the responders' teeth later falling out (Tartaglia), like numerous American Army A-Bomb test veterans/victims -- the missing, presumably vaporized, building contents -- the missing, presumably vaporized 1157 people, unaccounted for at Ground Zero -- the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed (and photographed) by so many firefighter and responders at least six months after 9/11 -- the clothing discarding from rescue workers -- the decontamination procedures of rescue workers -- EMT Ondrovic's account of Electromagnetic Pulse and instantaneous resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5,6, were being exploded from within, near her (explained here) -- the micro- or nano-fine particle debris/dust size -- much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear bombs in the WTC on 9/11. The witnesses for nukes that my articles have cited, included: -- numerous WTC workers, including Felipe David, -- numerous firefighters, including Bronx firefighter Joe O'Toole -- EMT worker Patricia Ondrovic -- numerous first responders, including Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia -- WTC stationary engineer Pecoraro -- fire engineering professor Dr. Barnett -- top British and American Structural Engineers including Keith Eaton, PhD who were shown "secret" molten steel photos denied to the rest of us -- Leslie E. Robertson, {American] Structural Engineer (and partial designer of WTC) -- Kenneth Holden NYC Commissioner -- Thomas von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner -- policeman: many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) -- other on-scene witnesses have-- for the moment-likely have been silenced, as detailed herein-- which is witness tampering, and worse. Scientific data have also been cited, including - -- AVIRIS, -- LIDAR, -- seismic readings before "collapse", -- Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study) -- the now exploding number of "rare" CANCERS among responders, including thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims posted by spooked @ 7:48 AM More Evidence & Testimony Indicating Nuclear Blasts, Nuclear Radiation, & China Syndrome at the WTC By The Anonymous Physicist Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia, a WTC responder, rescue worker, counselor, and FEMA consultant has made many remarkable statements related to the nuking of the WTC, and its China Syndrome aftermath. Tartaglia, said he believes "tactical nukes" took down the towers, and was responsible for the high temperatures weeks and months later (but does not know of the existence of the China Syndrome.) His statements include these: ".There were only certain parts of the site that you could not legally leave without going through decontamination..They would tackle you and take your camera away. I watched people be tackled." Most responders couldn't go "down in the garages.The rescue people - when our clothes got so contaminated, we were told not to bring our clothes off that site. Don't wear anything on the site you're not prepared to leave there because it's contaminated." Note that "discarding clothing", and "going through decontamination" are standard nuclear industry methods of dealing with radiation-exposed individuals. I do not know if other industries necessitate the use of these methods as well. In 2005, Sgt. Tartaglia said, "My teeth are falling out." Like hanging skin resulting from a nuclear bomb, teeth falling out is a common symptom, months or years later, from nuclear radiation exposure. (Other factors can also possibly cause this, but are less likely.) Read about this Army veteran sent to Hiroshima, just days after it was nuked, to bulldoze roads. This was apparently much too soon to send Americans in to Hiroshima, but the PTB apparently cared as much about Americans, as they did about the Japanese women and children who were nuked. I note that after the July 16, 1945 Trinity "A-Bomb" test, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer and General Leslie Groves did not return to Ground Zero until five weeks later on Sept 11, 1945. Yes, there is 9/11 again. So man did not walk again on the first alleged Ground Zero which resulted from the "Manhattan Project" until 9/11/45. Also read here about 3 veterans of atomic bomb tests in Nevada in the 1950's who had their teeth fall out within a few years of their radiation exposure. [To quickly find the 3 veterans cited, search on "teeth."] That article also indicates that the gov't lied to them as to the amount of radiation they had received. It is excerpted from the book, "They Never Knew: The Victims of Atomic Testing", [not read here] by Glenn Alan Cheney. See also "The Plutonium Files" by Welsome, and the two books on the "Making of the A-Bomb", and the H-Bomb, "Dark Sun", both by Rhodes--all three read here. But please read this (portions of the book, They Never Knew) in its entirety. It includes the following remarkable quote that may be very relevant to 9/11 research. A whistleblower came forward decades later about the actual radiation exposure Army personnel were subjected to. "In 1982, a former Army medic, Van R. Brandon, admitted that he had been ordered to keep two sets of books. "One set was to show that no one received an exposure above the approved dosimeter reading," he said. "The other set of books was to show what the actual reading was. That set of books was brought in a locked briefcase attached to [an officer]'s wrist by a set of handcuffs every morning." Army personnel were denied medical benefits and disability because the regime publicly used the "cooked" book. Do you think this same govt has gotten more or less evil, corrupt, and duplicitous, in the ensuing decades--and in a matter that relates to possibly irradiating tens of thousands of WTC workers, responders, and near-by residents. The statements made by Mike Pecoraro, a WTC1 stationary engineer, and 9/11 survivor, are also remarkable. Pecoraro first knew something was wrong after observing flickering lights (EMP?), and then he ascended to the sub-basement C level, from below. He says, "There was nothing there but rubble, we're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press gone!" Pecoraro and a co-worker "made their way to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone". As they ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they "were astonished to see a steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up like a piece of aluminum foil" and lying on the floor. Now I assert that this too is a likely sign that a nuclear bomb went off. Perhaps only the multi-million degree temperature at the hypocenter, or neutron bombardment, is capable of doing that to that heavy steel door. The article continues: ""They got us again,"" Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist attack at the center in 1993. Having been through that bombing, Mike recalled seeing similar things happen to the building's structure." This last statement from Pecoraro, I assert may be corroboration of nuclear engineer/geologist Phil Schneider's statement that his inspection of the 1993 WTC explosion damage revealed to him that it was a nuclear blast, that may have gone awry, that is, was insufficient. (See my previous articles at wtcdemolition.blogspot.com.) Pecoraro states that as WTC2 "collapsed," "there was a wind that came through the revolving doors that blew me [in the WTC1 lobby area] 100 feet to the far wall" Was this a nuclear pressure blast? You've probably seen the videos of A-bomb test sites, and resultant winds blowing down model houses, and heat causing fires. Like this and this. More evidence of the likely nuking of the WTC, and China Syndrome aftermath, comes from no less than CNN's Larry King Show. This show aired on 10/6/01, and was taped at the WTC, and a nearby burn unit, in the days prior to the air-date. The transcript is here. Regarding the likely China Syndrome of high heat three weeks later, Thomas Von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner, says, at the WTC, ".it's so hot, it's a really hot fire. The steel has been hot for three weeks now. Tremendous heat below, you know. It's -- the fire is not out down below." From my earlier articles, you know that this went on for at least six months after 9/11. At the Weill Burn Center at the Cornell Medical Hospital, Larry King interviews two women who received burns-without any fire--while trying to flee WTC1. King: "So, did you know you were on fire, in a sense?" Yang: "No, I wasn't on fire, I think it was from the heat." Mary Jo: "That's what we were told, it was the heat." So like Felipe David, like the Hiroshima survivors, these two women have no clue as to why their skin was burned. And who told them "it was from the heat"? And if it was the doctors, who told them to say this to the patients? Note that King says ".fire in a sense." I assert that that sense is not fire per se, but bombardment by radiation (thermal rays, gamma rays, neutrons) that can cause heat at the skin, and damage the skin--if the flux is large enough (relevant parameters include distance, shielding, intensity and type of radiation). King also interviews burn victim Brian Reeves, a security guard starting his rounds in the lobby of one of the towers. Reeves says: "I don't know when I got burned, but I just know when it knocked me over, there was -- there was something, the windows blew out. And when the windows blew out, I was on the ground, and like I said, there was a gust of wind. And when I opened my eyes, I seen a bright orange light." Reeves, feeling heat on his back, takes his jacket off and falls on the ground while fleeing. There is the issue of whether his jacket is on fire or not. [Months later, the media would morph the "bright orange light" into "fireball."] We must ask, did Reeves see the flash of, and receive the radiation, and air pressure blast from, a mini-nuke? Like the Hiroshima victims, he knows there had to be "something" but he/they didn't see what burned him/them. In this video, months after 9/11, Reeves then says "the fire was this close to my face" (and holds his hand near his face). He did not say any such thing 2-3 weeks after 9/11, when interviewed by King. Getting back to the King show, Dr. Roger Yurt of the Weill Burn Center says, "[Reeve's] worst burns were on his back, some burns up on his head. Burns on your arms also." My possible interpretation is the following. Likely his jacket was not on fire (note the burns on his head), and the jacket likely shielded him from receiving even more radiation! The source of which was apparently behind him, as his burns were mostly on his back, but also on his head. But if the flux of radiation is high enough, a person and/or their clothes will catch fire from the radiation. Many Hiroshima victims were immediately killed and left in a charred state. The "bright orange flash" he "saw" may well have been a flux of radiation onto his retina. This kind of thing is again known from Army veterans of the nuclear blasts in Nevada in the 1950's. In the worst cases, numerous Army personnel were forced to be, in ditches, only a football field away from an atomic bomb going off! But when Brian tells his story months later, the reporter adds "fireball" several times in her telling the story. Even the direction of the alleged fireball is cleverly, and falsely, inserted: ". a fireball that roared down the elevator shaft." In actuality, from numerous lobby, and sub-basement witnesses, a non-fireball, a likely nuclear detonation, occurred below the lobby, and its effects traveled UP a few floors-and not down some 80-90 floors from the likely conventional explosion above. In any case, Reeves did not observe what may, or may not, have been traversing the elevator shaft. It appears that in the telling of the 9/11 survivors' accounts, the MSM, and the 911 pseudo-truth media, are doing everything they can to add "fire" and "fireball" to the later retelling of numerous survivors' tales. And these survivors, who did not report "fire" initially, and not knowing about such things as radiation-induced burns-without any fire-may later start including this in their own accounts, after doctors, or reporters, or hidden (or not so hidden) handlers either keep repeating the "fire" and "fireball" memes to them; or perhaps in some cases threatening/rewarding the survivors to start telling it the way their handlers demand. Never forget how FBI, or secret service agents, both on the scene in Dallas and later during depositions, threatened eyewitnesses to President Kennedy's assassination, if they either said they clearly saw the Secret Service driver do it, or that there also were shots from the grassy knoll. Experts in eyewitness testimony tell us that the most accurate account is the closest in time to the event. Remember how sub-basement, 9/11 burn victim Felipe David's own accounting never mentions "fire" or "fireball," but his alleged rescuer, William Rodriquez added fire or fireball to his accounting of David's experiences. You will have to be the judge after reading survivors' accounts shortly after the event, and then months later after media/(govt?) interviews. This is a crucial point in the likely tampering of witnesses to a heinous crime. It is particularly odious as this may be ongoing from deep-cover intel assets in the major, AND internet "truth", media. But if the government/media had nothing to fear, or cover-up, why do they have to change so many burn victims' testimonies? Likewise they are frequently inserting "plane hits" into statements, when the witness couldn't possibly have seen that, even if the plane hits were real, instead of CGI. I believe we are only scratching the surface regarding evidence of the use of mini-nukes on 9/11. Many fire and police witnesses fear losing their jobs, or their pensions. Beginning a month after 9/11, NYC Fire Commissioner von Essen's office took depositions of 503 fire personnel, port authority police and EMT first responders. The report is 12,000 pages long and rarely read [and not read here]. It was deliberately excluded from the 911 Commission, and NIST, reports (scroll down at link). Could they be hiding evidence, not of the widely known explosions/controlled demolition, but specifically of the nuking of the towers and 3000 people? After von Essen's 503 witness interviews, former CIA director Robert Woolsey, was inserted into this in 2002, as the NYC Fire Department's "Anti-terrorism Consultant." (It's interesting that Wikipedia omits this job in his bio.) He issued a gag order, under threat of job loss and worse, down the ranks, under the guise of "anti-terrorism." This report is the one that includes EMT, Patricia Ondrovic' [see my articles on her here] heavily redacted, but remarkable interview. Recall my analysis demonstrated she witnessed Electromagnetic Pulse from a nuclear bomb causing flickering lights and making cars catch fire, for no apparent reason ("toasted cars"), right near her, and also jets shooting down other jets in the sky over the Hudson. Was Woolsey in charge of the redacting, of her, and other, testimony? I make the assertion that the very purpose of interviewing these 503 9/11 witnesses and responders was to find out who had witnessed evidence of the nuking of the WTC, and to then threaten, and silence them! Perhaps too many to kill, so first try to silence them! Here are the full 503 interviews. It would be good if some real 911 researcher could read them all or search for when portions are redacted. Note my scanning them indicates that numerous witnesses report "explosions;" this was not reason enough for redaction! There is other eyewitness (or should I say skinwitness) evidence, I believe of the heat, and radiation, wave which emanates outwards from a nuclear blast from numerous people who happened to be in the vicinity of the towers. This article states that "John Axisa, who was getting off a commuter train to the World Trade Center, .[after the alleged first plane hit]. Then there was a second explosion, and he felt heat on the back of [his] neck." Note the timing of the "second" explosion he heard--nothing from which was seen exiting the building--and yet he felt the heat at that exact time! This again could only be from a nuke, I assert. (The DEW hangout theorists always say their alleged DEW is cold.) Also at a 911 forum, a forum administrator named Quest noted that, "I have an acquaintance who was a NYC cop on 9/11 when the second tower came down. He was 3 blocks away and told me there was "incredible heat" during the "collapse"." Heat indeed is the thing that would be felt furthest out from a nuclear blast. Read this account of physicist, Dr. Phillip Morrison 10 miles from the Trinity nuclear test site. He said, "Suddenly, not only was there a bright light, but where we were, 10 miles away, there was the heat of the sun on our faces." [This was before the Sun came up.] So we see the similarity of statements, regarding heat during a nuclear blast, made by the Trinity witness, John Axisa, Quest's policeman, Felipe David, and the three burn victims interviewed by Larry King. I have written that the nukes used on 9/11 were 1/100th to 1/1000th (each) of the intensity of the Trinity blast (with several per tower used, and only one per smaller WTC buildings) and we also have some shielding by the building. So the distance that radiation would be able to propagate would be vastly less than the 10 miles felt by Dr. Morrison (noted above), where the test was in the open air. Those in the towers, and nearby, would indeed be bombarded by the (unseen) radiation from a mini-nuke. Given these ideas from this physicist, who has taught physics at several universities, can Quest please further interview his cop friend, and get back to us here at comments, or via email to Spooked? There has been at least one study published of WTC responders' medical problems treated on scene, from 9/14/01 to 11/20/1, at the WTC. This was published in May-June, 2005, of "Prehospital and Disaster Medicine," and was authored by: K.R. Peritt, W.L. Boal, and "The Helix Group, Inc." This third "author" listed is a media corporation. (I did not know that corporations, per se, could now be authors?) This study related to a 10 week period whereby a Federal govt agency, the "United States Public Health Service (USPHS), deployed Disaster Medical Assistance Teams (DMATs) and the Commissioned Corps to provide on-site, primary medical care to anyone who presented." The authors conclusion admits, the "USPHS visits probably were skewed to milder complaints when compared to analyses of employer medical department reports or hospital cases." This appears to mean that the more serious cases went straight to the hospital. There were 9,349 on-site patient visits, which included some surrounding residents. There were 30 cases of nausea and vomiting. Let us look at skin conditions reported. There were 253 1st or 2nd degree burns, of which 107 (42%) were said to be related to equipment use. There is no word on what caused the other 58% of these burns. In addition, there are 132 cases of "other" skin problems reported. There is not a single case of third degree burns (the most serious), and no comment on this lack! Were there people with more serious burns that went straight to the hospital, and thus are not counted? There are some curious statistics: "Other injury or illness: 696 cases," and "Not classifiable as an injury or illness: 920 cases." That's quite a lot of cases that are either "other" or "not classifiable," about 17%. Why such a high percentage? They're not "psychological" because they reported 78 cases of this. Is any medical condition being covered up? Did they test for radiation which is not mentioned? And what caused the 146 cases of burns that were not due to equipment handling? And how many people had third degree burns among the responders? Or is this classified information, related to what really was happening at the WTC, even after its demolition? This study is very troubling, and looks very "doctored." In conclusion now, this article, and my previous articles archived at wtcdemolition.blogspot.com and wtc-ChinaSyndrome.blogspot.com indicate the following. The proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes , the massive outward explosions seen, the vaporization of a steel press, the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel door, spherical blast wave destruction, the "nuclear meteorite,[parts of 4 storeys fused together at extreme temp.,]" the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses, the burned or hanging skin--without fire, the responders' teeth later falling out, the vaporized building contents, the 1157 vaporized people, the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed by many at least six months after 9/11, and photographed, the clothing discarding, and decontamination procedures, my detailed explanation of Ondrovic' account of Electromagnetic Pulse and resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5, 6, were being exploded from within, near her, the micro- or nano-fine particle size, and much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear bombs in the WTC on 9/11. The witnesses that my articles have cited, included numerous WTC workers, numerous firefighters, EMT worker, responders, stationary engineer, fire engineering professor, top British and American Structural Engineers who have been shown "secret" photos denied to the rest of us, NYC Commissioner, NYC Fire Commissioner, policeman, and others. Many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) other on-scene witnesses have-for the moment-likely been silenced, as detailed herein-which is witness tampering, and worse. Scientific data have also been cited, including -AVIRIS, LIDAR, seismic readings before "collapse", Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study), and the now exploding number of "rare" cancers among responders, including thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims. Other data, I have asserted has been altered, or is totally hidden--second long-delayed AVIRIS data set, and the lack of any further AVIRIS released. I assert and accuse- J'Accuse"-that the preponderance of this evidence demonstrates that the federal government of the United States of America did explode nuclear bombs inside most of the WTC buildings on 9/11/01. Furthermore, there was a resultant China Syndrome (through mechanisms detailed here by me previously) of nuclear reacting fragments releasing ionizing radiation, and high heat, for at least six months after 9/11, causing molten steel, and radiation exposure to thousands of responders and NYC residents. This was an act of treason, conspiracy, mass murder, genocide, and a ruse for waging war on innocent peoples around the world-crimes against humanity, and a ruse for blatantly eradicating American citizens freedoms and rights. The 9/11 WTC nuclear holocaust was not likely even the first time the American regime did this to its own citizens! Too few people know of this research into the American government's probable nuking of American sailors in 1944. The 9/11 perpetrators have used, and are using, limited hangouts and psyops to keep the people from knowing this. These hangouts, ultimately from the U.S. regime's "intelligence" agencies, include the bogus "theories" of the official planes/fuel/gravity/pancaking nonsense, and also thermite, DEW, and Depleted Uranium [D.U.] (any uranium used on 9/11 at the WTC, and the China Syndrome aftermath, would have been highly enriched, not depleted). The observed American military helicopters and planes directing the initial explosions, and the final nuclear destruction prove that this was not done by Arabs, Muslims, Iranians, Israelis, Russians, or Chinese. As with the Kennedy Assassination, this massive set of actions, and massive cover-up, could only have been perpetrated by the so-called government of the United States, and not by any small "rogue elements" therein. Complicit in the original act, and/or its cover-up, are all the branches of the federal government, its military, and intelligence agencies, and the Main Stream Media, and even much of the so-called alternative or internet media which is also laden with intel agents posing as "truthers," while pushing the hangouts listed above. The people of the world must get together, in what may be their final hour, and act literally to save themselves from extermination, from the handful of monsters that control humanity. Nature has demonstrated that individuals trained to be fearful can all come together, and overcome this fear, and act and defeat the small number who had previously seemed to be so invincible and bloodthirsty. We are indeed likewise in the jaws of these monsters, and have been for a long time; but likewise again, it is still possible to break free, and be free. We must try. Like this last video, there are so many more of us, than of them. posted by spooked @ 6:34 AM Monday, August 20, 2007 Proof of the Existence of Mini-Nukes and Micro-Nukes From the Anonymous Physicist More and more people are realizing that other theories proposed could not have destroyed the WTC, and are limited hangouts. As more people realize that the WTC was likely demolished via small nuclear bombs (likely with subsidiary conventional explosives), some are now claiming that milli-nukes (mini-nukes), or micro-nukes don't even exist. Spooked and I have addressed this issue before. Here first is proof of the "Nuclear rifle" from the 1950's, no less. The .01 kiloton (kt) TNT equivalent is about 1/1000th of the Hiroshima (20KT) blast. And here is a govt scientist, Peter Leitner, PhD, speaking to a Congressional Committee, in 1998. This is proof of nuclear bombs down into the range of "several pounds of TNT." He stated, "These experiments involve the ACTUAL TESTING of extremely low-yield fission devices (as low as the equivalent of several pounds of TNT) within a confined environment." Several pounds of TNT is equivalent to about 1/10,000,000th (one ten millionth) of the Hiroshima blast. Thus the U.S. Govt admitted having micro-nukes, and beyond in 1998. Note that this public admission stated that the testing was done "in a controlled environment." Clearly, the gov't has had milli-nukes and micro-nukes for some time. posted by spooked @ 7:43 AM Monday, July 09, 2007 Hanging Skin and Nuclear Blasts Another remarkable finding from Anonymous Physicist-- the hanging skin of 9/11 casualty Felipe David is a striking piece of evidence indicating a nuclear blast in the basement of the WTC. Where in the World is Felipe David-- and Did He Survive Exposure to Nuclear Radiation? By The Anonymous Physicist Assuming the following tale is not completely psyops, then on 9/11, Felipe David, employed by Aramark Corp., was checking or replenishing vending machines in one of the basement levels of WTC1. (Curiously Aramark Corp has Thomas Kean-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission--as one of its Board Directors since 1994.) The following is supposedly Felipe David's account of what happened beginning just before the first plane "hit." "That day I was in the basement in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the explosion below, dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got real hot. I threw myself onto the floor, covered my face because I felt like I was burned. I sat there for a couple of seconds on the floor and felt like I was going to die, saying to myself 'God, please give me strength.' "When I went in, I told them it was an explosion," said David, who was then helped out of the WTC by Rodriguez and eventually taken by ambulance to New York Hospital. "When people looked at me with my skin hanging, they started crying but I heard others say 'OK, good, good, you made it alive. [This ends the extract from the first URL above.] Now I would like people to note that nowhere in the above quote, allegedly direct from Mr. David, does he mention fire. He states that he felt and heard explosion(s), and then "it got real hot." He never says he saw any fire. This may be crucial. However when you read of his story through the words of William Rodriguez, "fire" is added into the story. "He had been standing in front of a freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries." Reports, as we shall see, differ greatly as to how he got to the vicinity of other workers for help, including keymaster William Rodriguez, of whom we have already seen much "coincidence" and strangeness. We have the "most official" story (always the one to be most wary of for those in the know) that he staggered into Rodriguez' office or area, and Rodriguez helped him outside, and into an ambulance. Some earlier reports even stated that Rodriguez carried Mr. David. The following site no longer works, but I copied the following from google: "Rodriguez carried Felipe David out of the building and re-entered it to rescue two men trapped on the elevator who were in danger of ... " But this Christian organization's website quotes Mr David saying he ran six blocks for help! "I asked God to give me strength. And I was able to get up and run six blocks to find an exit," Mr. David says. Then we have this remarkable TV interview that morning with Kenny Johannemann. Mr. Johannemann states that he was the one who helped David, "I dragged a guy off. His skin was hanging. I helped him into an ambulance" Note that there is no mention of Rodriguez. Wise individuals have suggested that perhaps no one interviewed on TV on 9/11 was genuine. Notice how the camera angle changes and zooms in on him, just as he is asked about "terrorism." The regime had long range plans, and a carefully crafted script. Note how Johannemann's arms flail just like another 9/11 witness that morning who has been shown to be bogus. He, of course, could be telling the truth (and each of you will have to draw your own conclusions), but I cannot find anything on him in recent years. So we have at least four accounts as follows: Rodriquez helped David to an ambulance. Rodriquez carried David to an ambulance. Johannemann helped David to an ambulance. David ran six blocks to an ambulance. Of course, in the shock and excitement of such events, we know that accounts can differ, and we cannot make any definitive conclusions in this regard. Now, let us return to Felipe David's "hanging skin." What caused this? It is always possible that some conventional fire or explosives caused his burns and the hanging skin on his face and arms. But we saw that David himself did not mention "fire." So we may conclude that it wasn't any direct fire that caused this. A conventional explosive blast could have done this. But this too may not be so likely, as such blasts may be expected to cause different types of wounds deep into the face and arms. But that is still a possibility, as is a fire that he just didn't see. That brings us to one possible cause of his hanging skin, that indeed he couldn't possibly have seen! That is radiation from a mini-nuke, which may have just exploded, at that time, in one of the sub-basement levels. One is not capable of seeing the radiation (gamma rays, neutrons) emitted by a nuclear blast. One will just feel the heat, then pain and then the skin will be damaged, and may either be vaporized, charred or hanging-depending on the flux intensity (distance, wavelength/type of the radiation etc. are factors here). This eyewitness account on the survivors of the Hiroshima nuclear attack describes how common was damaged, hanging skin amongst them. (You can use your "find" function and search on "hanging.") I assert my following interpretation of Mr. David's words is the most likely account of what happened to Mr. David. He hears and feels explosion(s). He doesn't see any fire coming at him, but is surprised to feel great heat on his skin, and goes to the floor. He then is further shocked to feel and see his skin burned and hanging. All this is very much like what the burn victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki reported. Now radiation exposure to the skin should result in significant swelling. But we have no photos or videos of Mr. David, until this Youtube video (in Spanish) allegedly three months later, when Mr. Rodriguez visits Mr. David. David's face does look (still?) a bit swollen, but not much. But this is allegedly three months later, without any allowed record of what his face, arms and legs looked like until that point in time. Why do we not have any photos or video of Mr David until that point in time? Could he have had massive skin swelling, beginning almost immediately after his skin was damaged by "something," possibly radiation from a nuclear blast? Could they have only trotted Mr. David out after his swelling had come down to a "normal" level? Finally I note that there seems to be nothing in the public record on Felipe David for the last five years or so! Even though he "too" could be regarded as a "hero." Why do we not know where he is, and his status? Hopefully Felipe David is OK. Hopefully he did not get cancer, or other medical problems, or suffer a strange "accident." Hopefully truly independent researchers will find him, and get his story direct from him, when he wouldn't be surrounded by any public media, or "handlers" from the government, or any other interference. With the dearth of information forced upon us, we may ask: Where in the world is Felipe David? What has he been doing these last five years or so? And is Felipe David the (only?) radiation survivor of a mini-nuke at the World Trade Center on 9/11? Does he share a kindred experience with those who were in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in those early days of August 1945 that marked the dawn of a new, horrible age? We must recognize that just like the World Trade Center on 9/11, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also called.Ground Zero. posted by spooked @ 5:15 AM China Syndrome The "China Syndrome" Came to New York City on 9/11 By The Anonymous Physicist Some people may not have not fully grasped the significance, and necessity, of my hypothesis on heat generating criticality sites at the WTC after 9/11. Some shills have actually, and laughably, attempted to claim thermite could have been been responsible for these high temperatures and molten steel. Any attempt to have a complete theory of 9/11 must include the WTC demolition on 9/11 itself, and crucially its aftermath of the great hotpsots and molten steel, up to five months afterwards. The latter being supported by irrefutable, numerous eyewitnesses, and photographs and at least one AVIRIS overflight temperature data set. (With the second, long-delayed release of overflight data likely being bogus, as claimed here.) It is risible that a shill physicist claims this photo, of a crane lifting molten steel weeks after 9/11, as "proof" of thermite use on 9/11. Now while thermite, or other conventional explosive, may have been used in some subsidiary capacity on 9/11, my earlier articles have highlighted how only mini-nukes could have accounted for all the phenomena of the 9/11 WTC demolitions. It is not unexpected, but still sickening, to see how a shill physicist has claimed that the molten steel weeks after 9/11 "proves" thermite alone brought down the WTC towers. He HAS to claim that, for he knows well that the real source of this molten steel, weeks later, is nuclear reactions. I have stated that only nuclear criticality sites could be the source of heat GENERATION weeks, and months after 9/11. You can find, say on Youtube, numerous videos of thermite being used to melt things, yes, including metal- but no vaporization. Note that the thermite is not being used as an explosive when it is seen melting through a car, e.g. But some of those videos clearly show that after just a few minutes, the molten thermite residue cools off and no longer glows. It is highly likely that any thermite at the WTC on 9/11 would have cooled off within hours. Indeed, I have stated that even the momentary maximum temperature of a nuke's hypocenter (up to 100 million degrees), is known to cool off relatively quickly. You can ascertain this rapid cooling off in regards to the Trinity Site, or Hiroshima or Nagasaki, or even H-Bomb test sites. The temperatures returned to normal at all these sites relatively quickly. Now some claim that oxygen starved fires could allow for vastly longer high temperature fires underground at the WTC. These people don't seem to realize they have just proven the case ONLY for nuclear chain reactions!! Because only nuclear chain reactions release massive heat almost indefinitely, without needing ANY oxygen whatsoever! This is not the case for any conventional (non-nuclear) fire. This "indefinite" massive heat source was the basis for the term "China Syndrome" in regards to a nuclear reactor mishap which, in theory (but not really due to other factors), could have massive indefinite heat leading to a nuclear reactor criticality (core) remnant burning all the way through to China. This remarkable article on Chernobyl actually states that the China Syndrome occurred at Chernobyl. It says, "'China Syndrome' of meltdown had taken place inside the reactor core. Thermal explosion and outbreak of fires in over thirty places were due to high-temperature and falling uranium core fragments on to the roofs of adjacent buildings." So here we see learn that the nuclear core had exploded into many pieces of- apparently still critically reacting uranium fragments--with their concomitant high temperatures. But this is just the kind of thing I cited in my WTC 9/11 nuclear demolition hypothesis of nukes exploding either other unexploded mini-nukes, or nukes exploding the reactors in the Nuclear Borers. So perhaps my previous term, "criticality sites" regarding the source of high temperatures and molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 is too vague. Instead I propose that from now on we think of this aftermath of molten steel, weeks and months after 9/11 as. "The China Syndrome came to New York City on 9/11." "B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Freedom Fighter Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Most of those putting forth these "nuke" and other far-fetched theories re. 9/11 are no more than disinformationists - shills whose purpose is to make ALL conspiracy theorists appear unworthy of serious consideration. Their intention is to obfuscate the truth and sustain the government coverup. The use of thermate incendiary and high explosive charges for controlled demolition is sufficient to explain all the observed phenomena. Yes, the towers were struck by planes, but WTC building 7 WAS NOT. The explosives had to be put in place in WTC 7 BEFORE the planes struck the towers, and this provides the strongest evidence that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! So what, American Sheeple, are we going to do about these mass-murdering fascist TRAITORS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kevin Cunningham Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 On Sep 10, 2:24 pm, "sandman" <sand...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Permanent Top Post > > This site deals primarily with the mechanism of demolition of the WTC. > > See "China Syndrome at the WTC" for articles pertaining to the aftermath of > the WTC nuclear demolition and the extreme heat phenomena seen at "Ground > Zero". > > posted by spooked @ 8:21 AM > > Friday, August 24, 2007 > Brief Evidence of Nuclear bombs used at the WTC on 9/11/01 > > From the Anonymous Physicist, extracted from here. > > -- the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes > > -- massive outward explosions as seen in videos of the towers' "collapses" > > -- the vaporization of a large steel press in the WTC basement > > -- the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel/concrete door > > -- the spherical blast wave destruction > > -- the "nuclear meteorite" (a chunk of WTC debris with 4 floors fused > together) > > -- the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses > > -- the burned or hanging skin (Felipe David), without fire, like so many > Hiroshima victims > > -- the responders' teeth later falling out (Tartaglia), like numerous > American Army A-Bomb test veterans/victims > > -- the missing, presumably vaporized, building contents > > -- the missing, presumably vaporized 1157 people, unaccounted for at Ground > Zero > > -- the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting > fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed (and > photographed) by so many firefighter and responders at least six months > after 9/11 > > -- the clothing discarding from rescue workers > > -- the decontamination procedures of rescue workers > > -- EMT Ondrovic's account of Electromagnetic Pulse and instantaneous > resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5,6, were being > exploded from within, near her (explained here) > > -- the micro- or nano-fine particle debris/dust size > > -- much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear > bombs in the WTC on 9/11. > > The witnesses for nukes that my articles have cited, included: > > -- numerous WTC workers, including Felipe David, > > -- numerous firefighters, including Bronx firefighter Joe O'Toole > > -- EMT worker Patricia Ondrovic > > -- numerous first responders, including Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia > > -- WTC stationary engineer Pecoraro > > -- fire engineering professor Dr. Barnett > > -- top British and American Structural Engineers including Keith Eaton, PhD > who were shown "secret" molten steel photos denied to the rest of us > > -- Leslie E. Robertson, {American] Structural Engineer (and partial designer > of WTC) > > -- Kenneth Holden NYC Commissioner > > -- Thomas von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner > > -- policeman: many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) > > -- other on-scene witnesses have-- for the moment-likely have been silenced, > as detailed herein-- which is witness tampering, and worse. > > Scientific data have also been cited, including - > > -- AVIRIS, > > -- LIDAR, > > -- seismic readings before "collapse", > > -- Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study) > > -- the now exploding number of "rare" CANCERS among responders, including > thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims > > posted by spooked @ 7:48 AM > > More Evidence & Testimony Indicating Nuclear Blasts, Nuclear Radiation, & > China Syndrome at the WTC > > By The Anonymous Physicist > > Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia, a WTC responder, rescue worker, counselor, and FEMA > consultant has made many remarkable statements related to the nuking of the > WTC, and its China Syndrome aftermath. > > Tartaglia, said he believes "tactical nukes" took down the towers, and was > responsible for the high temperatures weeks and months later (but does not > know of the existence of the China Syndrome.) His statements include these: > ".There were only certain parts of the site that you could not legally leave > without going through decontamination..They would tackle you and take your > camera away. I watched people be tackled." Most responders couldn't go "down > in the garages.The rescue people - when our clothes got so contaminated, we > were told not to bring our clothes off that site. Don't wear anything on the > site you're not prepared to leave there because it's contaminated." Note > that "discarding clothing", and "going through decontamination" are standard > nuclear industry methods of dealing with radiation-exposed individuals. I do > not know if other industries necessitate the use of these methods as well. > > In 2005, Sgt. Tartaglia said, "My teeth are falling out." Like hanging skin > resulting from a nuclear bomb, teeth falling out is a common symptom, months > or years later, from nuclear radiation exposure. (Other factors can also > possibly cause this, but are less likely.) Read about this Army veteran sent > to Hiroshima, just days after it was nuked, to bulldoze roads. This was > apparently much too soon to send Americans in to Hiroshima, but the PTB > apparently cared as much about Americans, as they did about the Japanese > women and children who were nuked. I note that after the July 16, 1945 > Trinity "A-Bomb" test, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer and General Leslie Groves > did not return to Ground Zero until five weeks later on Sept 11, 1945. Yes, > there is 9/11 again. So man did not walk again on the first alleged Ground > Zero which resulted from the "Manhattan Project" until 9/11/45. Also read > here about 3 veterans of atomic bomb tests in Nevada in the 1950's who had > their teeth fall out within a few years of their radiation exposure. [To > quickly find the 3 veterans cited, search on "teeth."] That article also > indicates that the gov't lied to them as to the amount of radiation they had > received. It is excerpted from the book, "They Never Knew: The Victims of > Atomic Testing", [not read here] by Glenn Alan Cheney. See also "The > Plutonium Files" by Welsome, and the two books on the "Making of the A-Bomb", > and the H-Bomb, "Dark Sun", both by Rhodes--all three read here. > > But please read this (portions of the book, They Never Knew) in its > entirety. It includes the following remarkable quote that may be very > relevant to 9/11 research. A whistleblower came forward decades later about > the actual radiation exposure Army personnel were subjected to. "In 1982, a > former Army medic, Van R. Brandon, admitted that he had been ordered to keep > two sets of books. "One set was to show that no one received an exposure > above the approved dosimeter reading," he said. "The other set of books was > to show what the actual reading was. That set of books was brought in a > locked briefcase attached to [an officer]'s wrist by a set of handcuffs > every morning." Army personnel were denied medical benefits and disability > because the regime publicly used the "cooked" book. Do you think this same > govt has gotten more or less evil, corrupt, and duplicitous, in the ensuing > decades--and in a matter that relates to possibly irradiating tens of > thousands of WTC workers, responders, and near-by residents. > > The statements made by Mike Pecoraro, a WTC1 stationary engineer, and 9/11 > survivor, are also remarkable. Pecoraro first knew something was wrong after > observing flickering lights (EMP?), and then he ascended to the sub-basement > C level, from below. He says, "There was nothing there but rubble, we're > talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press gone!" Pecoraro and a co-worker "made > their way to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone". As they > ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they "were astonished to see a > steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up like > a piece of aluminum foil" and lying on the floor. Now I assert that this too > is a likely sign that a nuclear bomb went off. Perhaps only the > multi-million degree temperature at the hypocenter, or neutron bombardment, > is capable of doing that to that heavy steel door. The article continues: > ""They got us again,"" Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist > attack at the center in 1993. Having been through that bombing, Mike > recalled seeing similar things happen to the building's structure." This > last statement from Pecoraro, I assert may be corroboration of nuclear > engineer/geologist Phil Schneider's statement that his inspection of the > 1993 WTC explosion damage revealed to him that it was a nuclear blast, that > may have gone awry, that is, was insufficient. (See my previous articles at > wtcdemolition.blogspot.com.) Pecoraro states that as WTC2 "collapsed," > "there was a wind that came through the revolving doors that blew me [in the > WTC1 lobby area] 100 feet to the far wall" Was this a nuclear pressure > blast? You've probably seen the videos of A-bomb test sites, and resultant > winds blowing down model houses, and heat causing fires. Like this and this. > > More evidence of the likely nuking of the WTC, and China Syndrome aftermath, > comes from no less than CNN's Larry King Show. This show aired on 10/6/01, > and was taped at the WTC, and a nearby burn unit, in the days prior to the > air-date. The transcript is here. > > Regarding the likely China Syndrome of high heat three weeks later, Thomas > Von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner, says, at the WTC, ".it's so hot, it's a > really hot fire. The steel has been hot for three weeks now. Tremendous heat > below, you know. It's -- the fire is not out down below." From my earlier > articles, you know that this went on for at least six months after 9/11. > > At the Weill Burn Center at the Cornell Medical Hospital, Larry King > interviews two women who received burns-without any fire--while trying to > flee WTC1. > > King: "So, did you know you were on fire, in a sense?" > > Yang: "No, I wasn't on fire, I think it was from the heat." > > Mary Jo: "That's what we were told, it was the heat." > > So like Felipe David, like the Hiroshima survivors, these two women have no > clue as to why their skin was burned. And who told them "it was from the > heat"? And if it was the doctors, who told them to say this to the patients? > Note that King says ".fire in a sense." I assert that that sense is not fire > per se, but bombardment ... > > read more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron O'Neal Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:180nkp.6mj.17.1@news.alt.net... > Permanent Top Post > > This site deals primarily with the mechanism of demolition of the WTC. > > See "China Syndrome at the WTC" for articles pertaining to the aftermath of > the WTC nuclear demolition and the extreme heat phenomena seen at "Ground > Zero". > > posted by spooked @ 8:21 AM > > Friday, August 24, 2007 > Brief Evidence of Nuclear bombs used at the WTC on 9/11/01 > > From the Anonymous Physicist, extracted from here. > > -- the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes > > -- massive outward explosions as seen in videos of the towers' "collapses" > > -- the vaporization of a large steel press in the WTC basement > > -- the wrinkling into "foil" of a steel/concrete door > > -- the spherical blast wave destruction > > -- the "nuclear meteorite" (a chunk of WTC debris with 4 floors fused > together) > > -- the feeling of heat without fire of numerous witnesses > > -- the burned or hanging skin (Felipe David), without fire, like so many > Hiroshima victims > > -- the responders' teeth later falling out (Tartaglia), like numerous > American Army A-Bomb test veterans/victims > > -- the missing, presumably vaporized, building contents > > -- the missing, presumably vaporized 1157 people, unaccounted for at Ground > Zero > > -- the massive evidence of the China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting > fragments causing the very high heat and molten steel witnessed (and > photographed) by so many firefighter and responders at least six months > after 9/11 > > -- the clothing discarding from rescue workers > > -- the decontamination procedures of rescue workers > > -- EMT Ondrovic's account of Electromagnetic Pulse and instantaneous > resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5,6, were being > exploded from within, near her (explained here) > > -- the micro- or nano-fine particle debris/dust size > > -- much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear > bombs in the WTC on 9/11. > > > > The witnesses for nukes that my articles have cited, included: > > -- numerous WTC workers, including Felipe David, > > -- numerous firefighters, including Bronx firefighter Joe O'Toole > > -- EMT worker Patricia Ondrovic > > -- numerous first responders, including Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia > > -- WTC stationary engineer Pecoraro > > -- fire engineering professor Dr. Barnett > > -- top British and American Structural Engineers including Keith Eaton, PhD > who were shown "secret" molten steel photos denied to the rest of us > > -- Leslie E. Robertson, {American] Structural Engineer (and partial designer > of WTC) > > -- Kenneth Holden NYC Commissioner > > -- Thomas von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner > > -- policeman: many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) > > -- other on-scene witnesses have-- for the moment-likely have been silenced, > as detailed herein-- which is witness tampering, and worse. > > > > Scientific data have also been cited, including - > > -- AVIRIS, > > -- LIDAR, > > -- seismic readings before "collapse", > > -- Tritium finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study) > > -- the now exploding number of "rare" CANCERS among responders, including > thyroid, leukemia, and lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims > > posted by spooked @ 7:48 AM > > More Evidence & Testimony Indicating Nuclear Blasts, Nuclear Radiation, & > China Syndrome at the WTC > > By The Anonymous Physicist > > Sgt. Matthew Tartaglia, a WTC responder, rescue worker, counselor, and FEMA > consultant has made many remarkable statements related to the nuking of the > WTC, and its China Syndrome aftermath. > > Tartaglia, said he believes "tactical nukes" took down the towers, and was > responsible for the high temperatures weeks and months later (but does not > know of the existence of the China Syndrome.) His statements include these: > ".There were only certain parts of the site that you could not legally leave > without going through decontamination..They would tackle you and take your > camera away. I watched people be tackled." Most responders couldn't go "down > in the garages.The rescue people - when our clothes got so contaminated, we > were told not to bring our clothes off that site. Don't wear anything on the > site you're not prepared to leave there because it's contaminated." Note > that "discarding clothing", and "going through decontamination" are standard > nuclear industry methods of dealing with radiation-exposed individuals. I do > not know if other industries necessitate the use of these methods as well. > > In 2005, Sgt. Tartaglia said, "My teeth are falling out." Like hanging skin > resulting from a nuclear bomb, teeth falling out is a common symptom, months > or years later, from nuclear radiation exposure. (Other factors can also > possibly cause this, but are less likely.) Read about this Army veteran sent > to Hiroshima, just days after it was nuked, to bulldoze roads. This was > apparently much too soon to send Americans in to Hiroshima, but the PTB > apparently cared as much about Americans, as they did about the Japanese > women and children who were nuked. I note that after the July 16, 1945 > Trinity "A-Bomb" test, Dr. J. Robert Oppenheimer and General Leslie Groves > did not return to Ground Zero until five weeks later on Sept 11, 1945. Yes, > there is 9/11 again. So man did not walk again on the first alleged Ground > Zero which resulted from the "Manhattan Project" until 9/11/45. Also read > here about 3 veterans of atomic bomb tests in Nevada in the 1950's who had > their teeth fall out within a few years of their radiation exposure. [To > quickly find the 3 veterans cited, search on "teeth."] That article also > indicates that the gov't lied to them as to the amount of radiation they had > received. It is excerpted from the book, "They Never Knew: The Victims of > Atomic Testing", [not read here] by Glenn Alan Cheney. See also "The > Plutonium Files" by Welsome, and the two books on the "Making of the A-Bomb", > and the H-Bomb, "Dark Sun", both by Rhodes--all three read here. > > But please read this (portions of the book, They Never Knew) in its > entirety. It includes the following remarkable quote that may be very > relevant to 9/11 research. A whistleblower came forward decades later about > the actual radiation exposure Army personnel were subjected to. "In 1982, a > former Army medic, Van R. Brandon, admitted that he had been ordered to keep > two sets of books. "One set was to show that no one received an exposure > above the approved dosimeter reading," he said. "The other set of books was > to show what the actual reading was. That set of books was brought in a > locked briefcase attached to [an officer]'s wrist by a set of handcuffs > every morning." Army personnel were denied medical benefits and disability > because the regime publicly used the "cooked" book. Do you think this same > govt has gotten more or less evil, corrupt, and duplicitous, in the ensuing > decades--and in a matter that relates to possibly irradiating tens of > thousands of WTC workers, responders, and near-by residents. > > The statements made by Mike Pecoraro, a WTC1 stationary engineer, and 9/11 > survivor, are also remarkable. Pecoraro first knew something was wrong after > observing flickering lights (EMP?), and then he ascended to the sub-basement > C level, from below. He says, "There was nothing there but rubble, we're > talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press gone!" Pecoraro and a co-worker "made > their way to the parking garage, but found that it, too, was gone". As they > ascended to the B Level, one floor above, they "were astonished to see a > steel and concrete fire door that weighed about 300 pounds, wrinkled up like > a piece of aluminum foil" and lying on the floor. Now I assert that this too > is a likely sign that a nuclear bomb went off. Perhaps only the > multi-million degree temperature at the hypocenter, or neutron bombardment, > is capable of doing that to that heavy steel door. The article continues: > ""They got us again,"" Mike told his co-worker, referring to the terrorist > attack at the center in 1993. Having been through that bombing, Mike > recalled seeing similar things happen to the building's structure." This > last statement from Pecoraro, I assert may be corroboration of nuclear > engineer/geologist Phil Schneider's statement that his inspection of the > 1993 WTC explosion damage revealed to him that it was a nuclear blast, that > may have gone awry, that is, was insufficient. (See my previous articles at > wtcdemolition.blogspot.com.) Pecoraro states that as WTC2 "collapsed," > "there was a wind that came through the revolving doors that blew me [in the > WTC1 lobby area] 100 feet to the far wall" Was this a nuclear pressure > blast? You've probably seen the videos of A-bomb test sites, and resultant > winds blowing down model houses, and heat causing fires. Like this and this. > > More evidence of the likely nuking of the WTC, and China Syndrome aftermath, > comes from no less than CNN's Larry King Show. This show aired on 10/6/01, > and was taped at the WTC, and a nearby burn unit, in the days prior to the > air-date. The transcript is here. > > Regarding the likely China Syndrome of high heat three weeks later, Thomas > Von Essen, NYC Fire Commissioner, says, at the WTC, ".it's so hot, it's a > really hot fire. The steel has been hot for three weeks now. Tremendous heat > below, you know. It's -- the fire is not out down below." From my earlier > articles, you know that this went on for at least six months after 9/11. > > At the Weill Burn Center at the Cornell Medical Hospital, Larry King > interviews two women who received burns-without any fire--while trying to > flee WTC1. > > King: "So, did you know you were on fire, in a sense?" > > Yang: "No, I wasn't on fire, I think it was from the heat." > > Mary Jo: "That's what we were told, it was the heat." > > So like Felipe David, like the Hiroshima survivors, these two women have no > clue as to why their skin was burned. And who told them "it was from the > heat"? And if it was the doctors, who told them to say this to the patients? > Note that King says ".fire in a sense." I assert that that sense is not fire > per se, but bombardment by radiation (thermal rays, gamma rays, neutrons) > that can cause heat at the skin, and damage the skin--if the flux is large > enough (relevant parameters include distance, shielding, intensity and type > of radiation). > > King also interviews burn victim Brian Reeves, a security guard starting his > rounds in the lobby of one of the towers. Reeves says: "I don't know when I > got burned, but I just know when it knocked me over, there was -- there was > something, the windows blew out. And when the windows blew out, I was on the > ground, and like I said, there was a gust of wind. And when I opened my > eyes, I seen a bright orange light." Reeves, feeling heat on his back, takes > his jacket off and falls on the ground while fleeing. There is the issue of > whether his jacket is on fire or not. [Months later, the media would morph > the "bright orange light" into "fireball."] We must ask, did Reeves see the > flash of, and receive the radiation, and air pressure blast from, a > mini-nuke? Like the Hiroshima victims, he knows there had to be "something" > but he/they didn't see what burned him/them. In this video, months after > 9/11, Reeves then says "the fire was this close to my face" (and holds his > hand near his face). He did not say any such thing 2-3 weeks after 9/11, > when interviewed by King. > > Getting back to the King show, Dr. Roger Yurt of the Weill Burn Center says, > "[Reeve's] worst burns were on his back, some burns up on his head. Burns on > your arms also." My possible interpretation is the following. Likely his > jacket was not on fire (note the burns on his head), and the jacket likely > shielded him from receiving even more radiation! The source of which was > apparently behind him, as his burns were mostly on his back, but also on his > head. But if the flux of radiation is high enough, a person and/or their > clothes will catch fire from the radiation. Many Hiroshima victims were > immediately killed and left in a charred state. The "bright orange flash" he > "saw" may well have been a flux of radiation onto his retina. This kind of > thing is again known from Army veterans of the nuclear blasts in Nevada in > the 1950's. In the worst cases, numerous Army personnel were forced to be, > in ditches, only a football field away from an atomic bomb going off! > > But when Brian tells his story months later, the reporter adds "fireball" > several times in her telling the story. Even the direction of the alleged > fireball is cleverly, and falsely, inserted: ". a fireball that roared down > the elevator shaft." In actuality, from numerous lobby, and sub-basement > witnesses, a non-fireball, a likely nuclear detonation, occurred below the > lobby, and its effects traveled UP a few floors-and not down some 80-90 > floors from the likely conventional explosion above. In any case, Reeves did > not observe what may, or may not, have been traversing the elevator shaft. > It appears that in the telling of the 9/11 survivors' accounts, the MSM, and > the 911 pseudo-truth media, are doing everything they can to add "fire" and > "fireball" to the later retelling of numerous survivors' tales. And these > survivors, who did not report "fire" initially, and not knowing about such > things as radiation-induced burns-without any fire-may later start including > this in their own accounts, after doctors, or reporters, or hidden (or not > so hidden) handlers either keep repeating the "fire" and "fireball" memes to > them; or perhaps in some cases threatening/rewarding the survivors to start > telling it the way their handlers demand. Never forget how FBI, or secret > service agents, both on the scene in Dallas and later during depositions, > threatened eyewitnesses to President Kennedy's assassination, if they either > said they clearly saw the Secret Service driver do it, or that there also > were shots from the grassy knoll. Experts in eyewitness testimony tell us > that the most accurate account is the closest in time to the event. > > Remember how sub-basement, 9/11 burn victim Felipe David's own accounting > never mentions "fire" or "fireball," but his alleged rescuer, William > Rodriquez added fire or fireball to his accounting of David's experiences. > You will have to be the judge after reading survivors' accounts shortly > after the event, and then months later after media/(govt?) interviews. This > is a crucial point in the likely tampering of witnesses to a heinous crime. > It is particularly odious as this may be ongoing from deep-cover intel > assets in the major, AND internet "truth", media. But if the > government/media had nothing to fear, or cover-up, why do they have to > change so many burn victims' testimonies? Likewise they are frequently > inserting "plane hits" into statements, when the witness couldn't possibly > have seen that, even if the plane hits were real, instead of CGI. > > I believe we are only scratching the surface regarding evidence of the use > of mini-nukes on 9/11. Many fire and police witnesses fear losing their > jobs, or their pensions. Beginning a month after 9/11, NYC Fire Commissioner > von Essen's office took depositions of 503 fire personnel, port authority > police and EMT first responders. The report is 12,000 pages long and rarely > read [and not read here]. It was deliberately excluded from the 911 > Commission, and NIST, reports (scroll down at link). Could they be hiding > evidence, not of the widely known explosions/controlled demolition, but > specifically of the nuking of the towers and 3000 people? After von Essen's > 503 witness interviews, former CIA director Robert Woolsey, was inserted > into this in 2002, as the NYC Fire Department's "Anti-terrorism Consultant." > (It's interesting that Wikipedia omits this job in his bio.) He issued a gag > order, under threat of job loss and worse, down the ranks, under the guise > of "anti-terrorism." This report is the one that includes EMT, Patricia > Ondrovic' [see my articles on her here] heavily redacted, but remarkable > interview. Recall my analysis demonstrated she witnessed Electromagnetic > Pulse from a nuclear bomb causing flickering lights and making cars catch > fire, for no apparent reason ("toasted cars"), right near her, and also jets > shooting down other jets in the sky over the Hudson. Was Woolsey in charge > of the redacting, of her, and other, testimony? I make the assertion that > the very purpose of interviewing these 503 9/11 witnesses and responders was > to find out who had witnessed evidence of the nuking of the WTC, and to then > threaten, and silence them! Perhaps too many to kill, so first try to > silence them! Here are the full 503 interviews. It would be good if some > real 911 researcher could read them all or search for when portions are > redacted. Note my scanning them indicates that numerous witnesses report > "explosions;" this was not reason enough for redaction! > > There is other eyewitness (or should I say skinwitness) evidence, I believe > of the heat, and radiation, wave which emanates outwards from a nuclear > blast from numerous people who happened to be in the vicinity of the towers. > This article states that "John Axisa, who was getting off a commuter train > to the World Trade Center, .[after the alleged first plane hit]. Then there > was a second explosion, and he felt heat on the back of [his] neck." Note > the timing of the "second" explosion he heard--nothing from which was seen > exiting the building--and yet he felt the heat at that exact time! This > again could only be from a nuke, I assert. (The DEW hangout theorists always > say their alleged DEW is cold.) Also at a 911 forum, a forum administrator > named Quest noted that, "I have an acquaintance who was a NYC cop on 9/11 > when the second tower came down. He was 3 blocks away and told me there was > "incredible heat" during the "collapse"." Heat indeed is the thing that > would be felt furthest out from a nuclear blast. Read this account of > physicist, Dr. Phillip Morrison 10 miles from the Trinity nuclear test site. > He said, "Suddenly, not only was there a bright light, but where we were, 10 > miles away, there was the heat of the sun on our faces." [This was before > the Sun came up.] So we see the similarity of statements, regarding heat > during a nuclear blast, made by the Trinity witness, John Axisa, Quest's > policeman, Felipe David, and the three burn victims interviewed by Larry > King. I have written that the nukes used on 9/11 were 1/100th to 1/1000th > (each) of the intensity of the Trinity blast (with several per tower used, > and only one per smaller WTC buildings) and we also have some shielding by > the building. So the distance that radiation would be able to propagate > would be vastly less than the 10 miles felt by Dr. Morrison (noted above), > where the test was in the open air. Those in the towers, and nearby, would > indeed be bombarded by the (unseen) radiation from a mini-nuke. Given these > ideas from this physicist, who has taught physics at several universities, > can Quest please further interview his cop friend, and get back to us here > at comments, or via email to Spooked? > > There has been at least one study published of WTC responders' medical > problems treated on scene, from 9/14/01 to 11/20/1, at the WTC. This was > published in May-June, 2005, of "Prehospital and Disaster Medicine," and was > authored by: K.R. Peritt, W.L. Boal, and "The Helix Group, Inc." This third > "author" listed is a media corporation. (I did not know that corporations, > per se, could now be authors?) This study related to a 10 week period > whereby a Federal govt agency, the "United States Public Health Service > (USPHS), deployed Disaster Medical Assistance Teams (DMATs) and the > Commissioned Corps to provide on-site, primary medical care to anyone who > presented." The authors conclusion admits, the "USPHS visits probably were > skewed to milder complaints when compared to analyses of employer medical > department reports or hospital cases." This appears to mean that the more > serious cases went straight to the hospital. There were 9,349 on-site > patient visits, which included some surrounding residents. There were 30 > cases of nausea and vomiting. Let us look at skin conditions reported. There > were 253 1st or 2nd degree burns, of which 107 (42%) were said to be related > to equipment use. There is no word on what caused the other 58% of these > burns. In addition, there are 132 cases of "other" skin problems reported. > There is not a single case of third degree burns (the most serious), and no > comment on this lack! Were there people with more serious burns that went > straight to the hospital, and thus are not counted? There are some curious > statistics: "Other injury or illness: 696 cases," and "Not classifiable as > an injury or illness: 920 cases." That's quite a lot of cases that are > either "other" or "not classifiable," about 17%. Why such a high percentage? > They're not "psychological" because they reported 78 cases of this. Is any > medical condition being covered up? Did they test for radiation which is not > mentioned? And what caused the 146 cases of burns that were not due to > equipment handling? And how many people had third degree burns among the > responders? Or is this classified information, related to what really was > happening at the WTC, even after its demolition? This study is very > troubling, and looks very "doctored." > > In conclusion now, this article, and my previous articles archived at > wtcdemolition.blogspot.com and wtc-ChinaSyndrome.blogspot.com indicate the > following. The proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes , the massive > outward explosions seen, the vaporization of a steel press, the wrinkling > into "foil" of a steel door, spherical blast wave destruction, the "nuclear > meteorite,[parts of 4 storeys fused together at extreme temp.,]" the feeling > of heat without fire of numerous witnesses, the burned or hanging > skin--without fire, the responders' teeth later falling out, the vaporized > building contents, the 1157 vaporized people, the massive evidence of the > China Syndrome of resultant nuclear reacting fragments causing the very high > heat and molten steel witnessed by many at least six months after 9/11, and > photographed, the clothing discarding, and decontamination procedures, my > detailed explanation of Ondrovic' account of Electromagnetic Pulse and > resultant car fire, and the door exploding into her as WTC 5, 6, were being > exploded from within, near her, the micro- or nano-fine particle size, and > much more, all indicate the federal regime set off numerous mini-nuclear > bombs in the WTC on 9/11. The witnesses that my articles have cited, > included numerous WTC workers, numerous firefighters, EMT worker, > responders, stationary engineer, fire engineering professor, top British and > American Structural Engineers who have been shown "secret" photos denied to > the rest of us, NYC Commissioner, NYC Fire Commissioner, policeman, and > others. Many (or the vast majority of the 503 who were found) other on-scene > witnesses have-for the moment-likely been silenced, as detailed herein-which > is witness tampering, and worse. Scientific data have also been cited, > including -AVIRIS, LIDAR, seismic readings before "collapse", Tritium > finding (UCAL/Berkeley, and subsequent Tahil study), and the now exploding > number of "rare" cancers among responders, including thyroid, leukemia, and > lymph cancer-all common among radiation victims. Other data, I have asserted > has been altered, or is totally hidden--second long-delayed AVIRIS data set, > and the lack of any further AVIRIS released. > > I assert and accuse- J'Accuse"-that the preponderance of this evidence > demonstrates that the federal government of the United States of America did > explode nuclear bombs inside most of the WTC buildings on 9/11/01. > Furthermore, there was a resultant China Syndrome (through mechanisms > detailed here by me previously) of nuclear reacting fragments releasing > ionizing radiation, and high heat, for at least six months after 9/11, > causing molten steel, and radiation exposure to thousands of responders and > NYC residents. This was an act of treason, conspiracy, mass murder, > genocide, and a ruse for waging war on innocent peoples around the > world-crimes against humanity, and a ruse for blatantly eradicating American > citizens freedoms and rights. The 9/11 WTC nuclear holocaust was not likely > even the first time the American regime did this to its own citizens! Too > few people know of this research into the American government's probable > nuking of American sailors in 1944. > > The 9/11 perpetrators have used, and are using, limited hangouts and psyops > to keep the people from knowing this. These hangouts, ultimately from the > U.S. regime's "intelligence" agencies, include the bogus "theories" of the > official planes/fuel/gravity/pancaking nonsense, and also thermite, DEW, and > Depleted Uranium [D.U.] (any uranium used on 9/11 at the WTC, and the China > Syndrome aftermath, would have been highly enriched, not depleted). The > observed American military helicopters and planes directing the initial > explosions, and the final nuclear destruction prove that this was not done > by Arabs, Muslims, Iranians, Israelis, Russians, or Chinese. As with the > Kennedy Assassination, this massive set of actions, and massive cover-up, > could only have been perpetrated by the so-called government of the United > States, and not by any small "rogue elements" therein. Complicit in the > original act, and/or its cover-up, are all the branches of the federal > government, its military, and intelligence agencies, and the Main Stream > Media, and even much of the so-called alternative or internet media which is > also laden with intel agents posing as "truthers," while pushing the > hangouts listed above. The people of the world must get together, in what > may be their final hour, and act literally to save themselves from > extermination, from the handful of monsters that control humanity. Nature > has demonstrated that individuals trained to be fearful can all come > together, and overcome this fear, and act and defeat the small number who > had previously seemed to be so invincible and bloodthirsty. We are indeed > likewise in the jaws of these monsters, and have been for a long time; but > likewise again, it is still possible to break free, and be free. We must > try. Like this last video, there are so many more of us, than of them. > > posted by spooked @ 6:34 AM > > Monday, August 20, 2007 > Proof of the Existence of Mini-Nukes and Micro-Nukes > > From the Anonymous Physicist > > More and more people are realizing that other theories proposed could not > have destroyed the WTC, and are limited hangouts. As more people realize > that the WTC was likely demolished via small nuclear bombs (likely with > subsidiary conventional explosives), some are now claiming that milli-nukes > (mini-nukes), or micro-nukes don't even exist. Spooked and I have addressed > this issue before. Here first is proof of the "Nuclear rifle" from the 1950's, > no less. > > The .01 kiloton (kt) TNT equivalent is about 1/1000th of the Hiroshima > (20KT) blast. And here is a govt scientist, Peter Leitner, PhD, speaking to > a Congressional Committee, in 1998. This is proof of nuclear bombs down into > the range of "several pounds of TNT." He stated, "These experiments involve > the ACTUAL TESTING of extremely low-yield fission devices (as low as the > equivalent of several pounds of TNT) within a confined environment." Several > pounds of TNT is equivalent to about 1/10,000,000th (one ten millionth) of > the Hiroshima blast. Thus the U.S. Govt admitted having micro-nukes, and > beyond in 1998. Note that this public admission stated that the testing was > done "in a controlled environment." > > Clearly, the gov't has had milli-nukes and micro-nukes for some time. > > posted by spooked @ 7:43 AM > > Monday, July 09, 2007 > Hanging Skin and Nuclear Blasts > > Another remarkable finding from Anonymous Physicist-- the hanging skin of > 9/11 casualty Felipe David is a striking piece of evidence indicating a > nuclear blast in the basement of the WTC. > > Where in the World is Felipe David-- and Did He Survive Exposure to Nuclear > Radiation? > > By The Anonymous Physicist > > Assuming the following tale is not completely psyops, then on 9/11, Felipe > David, employed by Aramark Corp., was checking or replenishing vending > machines in one of the basement levels of WTC1. (Curiously Aramark Corp has > Thomas Kean-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission--as one of its Board Directors > since 1994.) > > The following is supposedly Felipe David's account of what happened > beginning just before the first plane "hit." "That day I was in the basement > in sub-level 1 sometime after 8:30am. Everything happened so fast, > everything moved so fast. The building started shaking after I heard the > explosion below, dust was flying everywhere and all of a sudden it got real > hot. I threw myself onto the floor, covered my face because I felt like I > was burned. I sat there for a couple of seconds on the floor and felt like I > was going to die, saying to myself 'God, please give me strength.' > > "When I went in, I told them it was an explosion," said David, who was then > helped out of the WTC by Rodriguez and eventually taken by ambulance to New > York Hospital. "When people looked at me with my skin hanging, they started > crying but I heard others say 'OK, good, good, you made it alive. [This ends > the extract from the first URL above.] > > Now I would like people to note that nowhere in the above quote, allegedly > direct from Mr. David, does he mention fire. He states that he felt and > heard explosion(s), and then "it got real hot." He never says he saw any > fire. This may be crucial. However when you read of his story through the > words of William Rodriguez, "fire" is added into the story. "He had been > standing in front of a freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from > the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries." > > Reports, as we shall see, differ greatly as to how he got to the vicinity of > other workers for help, including keymaster William Rodriguez, of whom we > have already seen much "coincidence" and strangeness. We have the "most > official" story (always the one to be most wary of for those in the know) > that he staggered into Rodriguez' office or area, and Rodriguez helped him > outside, and into an ambulance. Some earlier reports even stated that > Rodriguez carried Mr. David. The following site no longer works, but I > copied the following from google: "Rodriguez carried Felipe David out of the > building and re-entered it to rescue two men trapped on the elevator who > were in danger of ... " > > But this Christian organization's website quotes Mr David saying he ran six > blocks for help! "I asked God to give me strength. And I was able to get up > and run six blocks to find an exit," Mr. David says. Then we have this > remarkable TV interview that morning with Kenny Johannemann. Mr. Johannemann > states that he was the one who helped David, "I dragged a guy off. His skin > was hanging. I helped him into an ambulance" Note that there is no mention > of Rodriguez. Wise individuals have suggested that perhaps no one > interviewed on TV on 9/11 was genuine. Notice how the camera angle changes > and zooms in on him, just as he is asked about "terrorism." The regime had > long range plans, and a carefully crafted script. Note how Johannemann's > arms flail just like another 9/11 witness that morning who has been shown to > be bogus. He, of course, could be telling the truth (and each of you will > have to draw your own conclusions), but I cannot find anything on him in > recent years. > > So we have at least four accounts as follows: > Rodriquez helped David to an ambulance. > Rodriquez carried David to an ambulance. > Johannemann helped David to an ambulance. > David ran six blocks to an ambulance. > > Of course, in the shock and excitement of such events, we know that accounts > can differ, and we cannot make any definitive conclusions in this regard. > > Now, let us return to Felipe David's "hanging skin." What caused this? It is > always possible that some conventional fire or explosives caused his burns > and the hanging skin on his face and arms. But we saw that David himself did > not mention "fire." So we may conclude that it wasn't any direct fire that > caused this. A conventional explosive blast could have done this. But this > too may not be so likely, as such blasts may be expected to cause different > types of wounds deep into the face and arms. But that is still a > possibility, as is a fire that he just didn't see. > > That brings us to one possible cause of his hanging skin, that indeed he > couldn't possibly have seen! That is radiation from a mini-nuke, which may > have just exploded, at that time, in one of the sub-basement levels. One is > not capable of seeing the radiation (gamma rays, neutrons) emitted by a > nuclear blast. One will just feel the heat, then pain and then the skin will > be damaged, and may either be vaporized, charred or hanging-depending on the > flux intensity (distance, wavelength/type of the radiation etc. are factors > here). This eyewitness account on the survivors of the Hiroshima nuclear > attack describes how common was damaged, hanging skin amongst them. (You can > use your "find" function and search on "hanging.") > > I assert my following interpretation of Mr. David's words is the most likely > account of what happened to Mr. David. He hears and feels explosion(s). He > doesn't see any fire coming at him, but is surprised to feel great heat on > his skin, and goes to the floor. He then is further shocked to feel and see > his skin burned and hanging. All this is very much like what the burn > victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki reported. > > Now radiation exposure to the skin should result in significant swelling. > But we have no photos or videos of Mr. David, until this Youtube video (in > Spanish) allegedly three months later, when Mr. Rodriguez visits Mr. David. > David's face does look (still?) a bit swollen, but not much. But this is > allegedly three months later, without any allowed record of what his face, > arms and legs looked like until that point in time. Why do we not have any > photos or video of Mr David until that point in time? Could he have had > massive skin swelling, beginning almost immediately after his skin was > damaged by "something," possibly radiation from a nuclear blast? Could they > have only trotted Mr. David out after his swelling had come down to a > "normal" level? > > Finally I note that there seems to be nothing in the public record on Felipe > David for the last five years or so! Even though he "too" could be regarded > as a "hero." Why do we not know where he is, and his status? Hopefully > Felipe David is OK. Hopefully he did not get cancer, or other medical > problems, or suffer a strange "accident." Hopefully truly independent > researchers will find him, and get his story direct from him, when he wouldn't > be surrounded by any public media, or "handlers" from the government, or any > other interference. With the dearth of information forced upon us, we may > ask: Where in the world is Felipe David? What has he been doing these last > five years or so? > > And is Felipe David the (only?) radiation survivor of a mini-nuke at the > World Trade Center on 9/11? Does he share a kindred experience with those > who were in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in those early days of August 1945 that > marked the dawn of a new, horrible age? We must recognize that just like the > World Trade Center on 9/11, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also called.Ground > Zero. > > posted by spooked @ 5:15 AM > > China Syndrome > > The "China Syndrome" Came to New York City on 9/11 > > By The Anonymous Physicist > > Some people may not have not fully grasped the significance, and necessity, > of my hypothesis on heat generating criticality sites at the WTC after 9/11. > Some shills have actually, and laughably, attempted to claim thermite could > have been been responsible for these high temperatures and molten steel. > > Any attempt to have a complete theory of 9/11 must include the WTC > demolition on 9/11 itself, and crucially its aftermath of the great hotpsots > and molten steel, up to five months afterwards. The latter being supported > by irrefutable, numerous eyewitnesses, and photographs and at least one > AVIRIS overflight temperature data set. (With the second, long-delayed > release of overflight data likely being bogus, as claimed here.) It is > risible that a shill physicist claims this photo, of a crane lifting molten > steel weeks after 9/11, as "proof" of thermite use on 9/11. Now while > thermite, or other conventional explosive, may have been used in some > subsidiary capacity on 9/11, my earlier articles have highlighted how only > mini-nukes could have accounted for all the phenomena of the 9/11 WTC > demolitions. It is not unexpected, but still sickening, to see how a shill > physicist has claimed that the molten steel weeks after 9/11 "proves" > thermite alone brought down the WTC towers. He HAS to claim that, for he > knows well that the real source of this molten steel, weeks later, is > nuclear reactions. > <snipped> I Googled a phrase from your post, "Some shills have actually, and laughably, attempted to claim thermite" and got exactly three hits. All three were blogs. And for you, this is "proof"? 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Guest sandman Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message news:2WhFi.522141$p47.167917@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Most of those putting forth these "nuke" and other far-fetched theories > re. 9/11 are no more than disinformationists - shills whose purpose is to > make ALL conspiracy theorists appear unworthy of serious consideration. > Their intention is to obfuscate the truth and sustain the government > coverup. > > The use of thermate incendiary and high explosive charges for controlled > demolition is sufficient to explain all the observed phenomena. You're wrong on the thermate, BTW, has never, ever EVER been used as an explosive, only for cleanup, and Steven Jones is a dangerous man. Also, Crash Physics: Bugs vs. windshields............... speed only changes the size of the splat. no BODIES, no LUGGAGE, no SEATS no PLANE PARTS\ no BUILDING parts..... Only complete fools continue to believe planes were used on the towers on 9/11. http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1303&st=0entry14425767 Yes, the > towers were struck by planes, but WTC building 7 WAS NOT. The explosives > had to be put in place in WTC 7 BEFORE the planes struck the towers, and > this provides the strongest evidence that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! > > So what, American Sheeple, are we going to do about these mass-murdering > fascist TRAITORS? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 "Kevin Cunningham" <smskjc@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:1189456863.789979.212910@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... The above is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Now, on the good side it is the dumbest thing you will ever read or have read to you. Real stupidity brought to you by the really stupid. Look, ass hole, get used to the idea that the WTC was brought down by two air planes. You saw it, you heard it and thousands of competent people proved it over and over again. <<<>>> At last, we agree on something! This guy is an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1815a0.dov.19.1@news.alt.net... > > Only complete fools continue to believe planes were used on the towers on > 9/11. Don't be a fucking assclown. I saw the planes hit with my own two eyes. Get a fucking life you insane loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stu Gotz Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 "sandman" <sandman@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:180nkp.6mj.17.1@news.alt.net... Shhhh....Don't tell anyone...but they were launched from the MOON! Oh, wait....We didn't land on the moon. You told all of us so....Ummmm.....Never mind..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stu Gotz Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 "Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.net> wrote in message news:2WhFi.522141$p47.167917@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... I like garlic baloney, myself. OTOH, I've never tried nuclear baloney. Does it taste good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest SteveL Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:26:27 GMT, "B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SteveL Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 It's brief allright. Nuclear weapons? ROTFLMAO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Black Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 In article <2WhFi.522141$p47.167917@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, liberty@once.net says... > Most of those putting forth these "nuke" and other far-fetched theories re. > 9/11 are no more than disinformationists - shills whose purpose is to make > ALL conspiracy theorists appear unworthy of serious consideration. Their > intention is to obfuscate the truth and sustain the government coverup. LOL. Nothing funnier than two kooks arguing about which wacko theory is too loony to be true. > The use of thermate incendiary and high explosive charges for controlled > demolition is sufficient to explain all the observed phenomena. Yes, the > towers were struck by planes, but WTC building 7 WAS NOT. No, it only had two of the largest buildings in the world fall on it, that's all. > The explosives had > to be put in place in WTC 7 BEFORE the planes struck the towers, and this > provides the strongest evidence that 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB! If the strongest evidence is that you can't figure out why a building which had skyscrapers fall on it collapsed, then you (as everyone knows) have nothing. > So what, American Sheeple, are we going to do about these mass-murdering > fascist TRAITORS? We're fighting the organization that did this in Afghanistan and Iraq. John Black -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Black Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 In article <180nkp.6mj.17.1@news.alt.net>, sandman@hotmail.com says... > the proven existence of mini-nukes and micro-nukes Micronukes! LOL!!!! Now, I've heard it all. John Black -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Erich Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 In article <_LydnTn2YayVqHvbnZ2dnUVZ8qSnnZ2d@giganews.com>, SteveL <stevelon@deletethisbitntlworld.com> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:26:27 GMT, "B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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