Bush Honors Firefighters, Dems Ignore Them

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299965,00.html

Bush Honors Firefighters Killed in the Line of Duty

Sunday, October 07, 2007

EMMITSBURG, Md. - President Bush on Sunday honored fallen firefighters for

their dedication and service to the nation.

From the Sept. 11 attacks to Hurricane Katrina, "there were firefighters

from around the country there to help," Bush said at a ceremony where he and

others paid tribute to firefighters killed on the job.

"The bond between firefighters is obviously unique. It is definitely a

source of strength and it's a reminder that the work here is a calling, not

a job."

A plaque with the names of 87 firefighters who died in the line of duty last

year was added to the National Fallen Firefighters Memorial on the campus at

the National Fire Academy. The names of four others killed in previous years

and not honored before also were added.

"It takes a special kind of person to be a firefighter," the president told

their families and others in the audience. "It begins with a different sense

of direction. When an area becomes too dangerous for everybody else, you

take it over. When others are looking for the exits, our firefighters are

looking for the way in."

In his speech, Bush mentioned three of the fallen by name: Kevin A. Apuzzio,

of the East Franklin Volunteer Fire Department in Somerset, N.J.; John

Destry Horton, of Rush Springs, Okla.; and Amy L. Schnearle-Pennywitt, of

Ann Arbor, Mich. He briefly recounted their stories and wondered, "Where do

people like this get their courage?"

Plaques surrounding the memorial, created in 1981, now show the names of

more than 3,100 firefighters, according to the National Fallen Firefighters

Foundation. The fallen include five U.S. Forest Service firefighters who

died from injuries sustained last year from a fire in California's San

Bernardino National Forest that investigators say was deliberately set.

Bush also visited Emmitsburg less than a month after the attacks of Sept.

11, 2001, paying tribute to the more than 300 New York City firefighters

killed in the strikes on the World Trade Center.

Speaking in praise of the commitment by first responders, the president said

Sunday: "And to all Americans: Across our great country, homes still stand

and families can go about their lives because firefighters put themselves in

harm's way to protect us. So when you walk by a firehouse, or see an

ambulance on the street corner, take a moment to go up and say, 'Thank

you."'

On Oct 8, 7:46 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299965,00.html

>

> Bush Honors Firefighters Killed in the Line of Duty

> Sunday, October 07, 2007

>

> EMMITSBURG, Md. - President Bush on Sunday honored fallen firefighters for

> their dedication and service to the nation.

>

> From the Sept. 11 attacks to Hurricane Katrina, "there were firefighters

> from around the country there to help," Bush said at a ceremony where he and

> others paid tribute to firefighters killed on the job.

>

> "The bond between firefighters is obviously unique. It is definitely a

> source of strength and it's a reminder that the work here is a calling, not

> a job."

>

> A plaque with the names of 87 firefighters who died in the line of duty last

> year was added to the National Fallen Firefighters Memorial on the campus at

> the National Fire Academy. The names of four others killed in previous years

> and not honored before also were added.

>

> "It takes a special kind of person to be a firefighter," the president told

> their families and others in the audience. "It begins with a different sense

> of direction. When an area becomes too dangerous for everybody else, you

> take it over. When others are looking for the exits, our firefighters are

> looking for the way in."

>

> In his speech, Bush mentioned three of the fallen by name: Kevin A. Apuzzio,

> of the East Franklin Volunteer Fire Department in Somerset, N.J.; John

> Destry Horton, of Rush Springs, Okla.; and Amy L. Schnearle-Pennywitt, of

> Ann Arbor, Mich. He briefly recounted their stories and wondered, "Where do

> people like this get their courage?"

>

> Plaques surrounding the memorial, created in 1981, now show the names of

> more than 3,100 firefighters, according to the National Fallen Firefighters

> Foundation. The fallen include five U.S. Forest Service firefighters who

> died from injuries sustained last year from a fire in California's San

> Bernardino National Forest that investigators say was deliberately set.

>

> Bush also visited Emmitsburg less than a month after the attacks of Sept.

> 11, 2001, paying tribute to the more than 300 New York City firefighters

> killed in the strikes on the World Trade Center.

>

> Speaking in praise of the commitment by first responders, the president said

> Sunday: "And to all Americans: Across our great country, homes still stand

> and families can go about their lives because firefighters put themselves in

> harm's way to protect us. So when you walk by a firehouse, or see an

> ambulance on the street corner, take a moment to go up and say, 'Thank

> you."'

a) if you are going to say that Dems ignore firefighters on a day that

a republican honors them, you should also say that Repubs ignore

firefighters on a day that a democrat honors them. Otherwise, it'll

look like you're a mindless lackey.

b) Hillary Clinton (the first "Dem" that popped into my head) has also

honored firefighters. The following is, ironically enough, from a

list of Clinton's accomplishments compiled by Newsmax for the purpose

of demonstrating that she has a "paltry record".

- Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters

who lost their lives on duty.

So can I assume on that day you started a thread entitled "Clinton

Honors Firefighters, Repubs Ignore Them" ?

This is why you shouldn't start threads, Chuckles.

Poor, dumb hick.

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 8, 7:46 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299965,00.html

>> Bush Honors Firefighters Killed in the Line of Duty

>> Sunday, October 07, 2007

>> EMMITSBURG, Md. - President Bush on Sunday honored fallen firefighters

>> for

>> their dedication and service to the nation.

> a) if you are going to say that Dems ignore firefighters on a day that

> a republican honors them, you should also say that Repubs ignore

> firefighters on a day that a democrat honors them. Otherwise, it'll

> look like you're a mindless lackey.

You be sure to let me know when the Dems pick a day to honor firefighters.

> b) Hillary Clinton (the first "Dem" that popped into my head) has also

> honored firefighters. The following is, ironically enough, from a

> list of Clinton's accomplishments compiled by Newsmax for the purpose

> of demonstrating that she has a "paltry record".

> - Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters

> who lost their lives on duty.

3 out of 350... I'm impressed that she managed to attend funerals ONE

DAY....

> So can I assume on that day you started a thread entitled "Clinton

> Honors Firefighters, Repubs Ignore Them" ?

See above.

> This is why you shouldn't start threads, Chuckles.

> Poor, dumb hick.

Here's an extra credit question for you, Sparkey. How many firefighter

funerals did Rudy attend?

Here's an extra credit question for you, Sparkey. How many police funerals

did Rudy attend?

Here's an extra credit question for you, Sparkey. How many police funerals

did Hitlery attend?

On Oct 8, 6:32 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1191878165.257362.4420@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Oct 8, 7:46 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> >>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299965,00.html

> >> Bush Honors Firefighters Killed in the Line of Duty

> >> Sunday, October 07, 2007

> >> EMMITSBURG, Md. - President Bush on Sunday honored fallen firefighters

> >> for

> >> their dedication and service to the nation.

> > a) if you are going to say that Dems ignore firefighters on a day that

> > a republican honors them, you should also say that Repubs ignore

> > firefighters on a day that a democrat honors them. Otherwise, it'll

> > look like you're a mindless lackey.

>

> You be sure to let me know when the Dems pick a day to honor firefighters.

>

> > b) Hillary Clinton (the first "Dem" that popped into my head) has also

> > honored firefighters. The following is, ironically enough, from a

> > list of Clinton's accomplishments compiled by Newsmax for the purpose

> > of demonstrating that she has a "paltry record".

> > - Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters

> > who lost their lives on duty.

>

> 3 out of 350... I'm impressed that she managed to attend funerals ONE

> DAY....

>

> > So can I assume on that day you started a thread entitled "Clinton

> > Honors Firefighters, Repubs Ignore Them" ?

>

> See above.

>

> > This is why you shouldn't start threads, Chuckles.

> > Poor, dumb hick.

>

> Here's an extra credit question for you, Sparkey. How many firefighter

> funerals did Rudy attend?

>

> Here's an extra credit question for you, Sparkey. How many police funerals

> did Rudy attend?

>

> Here's an extra credit question for you, Sparkey. How many police funerals

> did Hitlery attend?

Gee, you seem so excited about your reply it almost pains to me to

shred it to bits.

Almost.

For starters, you're assuming that Hillary only attended the 3 that I

mentioned. I think it's safe to say we have no fucking idea how many

she attended, unless each was attended by press, a record of her

absence was noted and confirmed, and the story archived (not to

mention archived in a foolproof way, ie if it doesn't show up on our

search we know the story doesn't exist).

More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

"doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

death to score political points? For once, I agree with Newsmax in

saying 'yes' to that last question.

So your "argument" is basically fake numbers offered for the purpose

of making a point you don't understand.

Sorry this isn't going the way you thought it would, but you really

just need to think more about what you say.

I can partially understand your constant fumblings in that you're just

a stupid hick. But even so, you CAN do better. I know it.

On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>

> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

> death to score political points?

<crickets.wav>

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

>> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

>> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

>> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

>> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

>> death to score political points?

> <crickets.wav>

Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

ways...

Like cancelling my posts....

Anyway...

Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following the WTC

Bombing.

Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the ones where

TV cameras were present.

Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

> >> death to score political points?

> > <crickets.wav>

>

> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

> ways...

>

> Like cancelling my posts....

>

> Anyway...

>

> Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following the WTC

> Bombing.

>

> Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the ones where

> TV cameras were present.

>

> Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

>

> So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

"hitlery" <eyes rolling at how lame that is> was "cashing in on our

nation's dead heros" when she attended and "ignored them" when she

didn't. Meanwhile, Bush was 'honoring them' when he attended.

Come on. Even delusional, retarded, dumb hick YOU must acknowledge

how bizarre that is.

Oh, and to finish it up, if 'dems' are "ignoring" firefighters when

they miss funerals, what is Bush doing when he misses them?

Can't wait for this...

On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

> >> death to score political points?

> > <crickets.wav>

>

> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

> ways...

>

> Like cancelling my posts....

>

NOW what are you babbling about? How could I cancel your posts?

And why would I want to not keep your stupidity in the archives

forever?

That reminds me, are you the idiot who accused me of 'hiding behind

googlegroups', or was that some other hapless douche bag grasping at

straws? It's hard to keep you poor saps straight.

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

>> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

>> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

>> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

>> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

>> >> death to score political points?

>> > <crickets.wav>

>> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

>> ways...

>> Like cancelling my posts....

>> Anyway...

>> Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following the WTC

>> Bombing.

>> Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the ones

>> where

>> TV cameras were present.

>> Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

>> So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

> "hitlery" <eyes rolling at how lame that is> was "cashing in on our

> nation's dead heros" when she attended and "ignored them" when she

> didn't. Meanwhile, Bush was 'honoring them' when he attended.

I don't think Bush attended ANY 9/11 WTC Funerals.

> Come on. Even delusional, retarded, dumb hick YOU must acknowledge

> how bizarre that is.

Its not bizarre in any way. Rudy was the Mayor. He should have attebded

the funerals and he did. Hitlary was the Senator. She should have attended

the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.) These are

just facts.

Is it a coincidence that Hitlary ONLY attended those few funerals that were

televised?

You decide.

> Oh, and to finish it up, if 'dems' are "ignoring" firefighters when

> they miss funerals, what is Bush doing when he misses them?

> Can't wait for this...

They made the decision that since the President can't attend EVERY funeral

he shouldn't attend ANY funeral so as to not suggest that he favored any

particular person or firehouse or cops vesus firefighters, etc.

I always thought that was a stupid (although accurate and true) explanation.

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

>> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

>> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

>> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

>> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

>> >> death to score political points?

>> > <crickets.wav>

>> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

>> ways...

>> Like cancelling my posts....

> NOW what are you babbling about? How could I cancel your posts?

I didn't say you did.

> And why would I want to not keep your stupidity in the archives

> forever?

> That reminds me, are you the idiot who accused me of 'hiding behind

> googlegroups', or was that some other hapless douche bag grasping at

> straws? It's hard to keep you poor saps straight.

You DO hide behind GoogleGroups so its entirely possible I said that.

On Oct 19, 9:35 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1192736736.640875.254290@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

> > On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >>news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> >> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

> >> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

> >> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

> >> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

> >> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

> >> >> death to score political points?

> >> > <crickets.wav>

> >> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

> >> ways...

> >> Like cancelling my posts....

> >> Anyway...

> >> Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following the WTC

> >> Bombing.

> >> Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the ones

> >> where

> >> TV cameras were present.

> >> Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

> >> So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

> > "hitlery" <eyes rolling at how lame that is> was "cashing in on our

> > nation's dead heros" when she attended and "ignored them" when she

> > didn't. Meanwhile, Bush was 'honoring them' when he attended.

>

> I don't think Bush attended ANY 9/11 WTC Funerals.

>

> > Come on. Even delusional, retarded, dumb hick YOU must acknowledge

> > how bizarre that is.

>

> Its not bizarre in any way. Rudy was the Mayor. He should have attebded

> the funerals and he did. Hitlary was the Senator. She should have attended

> the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.) These are

> just facts.

Saying that someone should go to a funeral a FACT. Too funny.

Anyway, in your opinion Rudy should have attended, Hillary should have

attended, but Bush shouldn't have attended?

I wonder where are you getting these rules from.

>

> Is it a coincidence that Hitlary ONLY attended those few funerals that were

> televised?

I also wonder where you got a list of not only who attended which

funerals, but which funerals were televised. You had better provide

some records. Otherwise, I'll have to assume you're talking out of

your ass.

>

> You decide.

>

> > Oh, and to finish it up, if 'dems' are "ignoring" firefighters when

> > they miss funerals, what is Bush doing when he misses them?

> > Can't wait for this...

>

> They made the decision that since the President can't attend EVERY funeral

> he shouldn't attend ANY funeral so as to not suggest that he favored any

> particular person or firehouse or cops vesus firefighters, etc.

>

> I always thought that was a stupid (although accurate and true) explanation.

Well it's certainly a convenient excuse.

Anyway, I hesitate to give Rudy credit for going to, as you say, all

300+ funerals. On the one hand it could have been a sincere

expression of respect, on the other a calculated publicity stunt

motivated by political aspirations. Do you think Rudy has political

aspirations?

Oh, and I'll wait for your explanation of why the line is drawn

between state and country, when it comes to who should attend

funerals.

IOW it happened in NY City (in the state of NY, country of USA), so

your opinion (even though you incorrectly called it a fact) is as

follows:

city representatives (eg mayor) SHOULD attend funerals

state representatives (eg senators) SHOULD attend funerals

country representative (the president) DOESN'T NEED TO attend funerals

On Oct 19, 9:37 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1192737237.490358.301420@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >>news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> >> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going. Why

> >> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

> >> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary actually

> >> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

> >> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using their

> >> >> death to score political points?

> >> > <crickets.wav>

> >> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

> >> ways...

> >> Like cancelling my posts....

> > NOW what are you babbling about? How could I cancel your posts?

>

> I didn't say you did.

Look up 4 lines, stupid.

Or maybe it was a different Patriot Games.

>

> > And why would I want to not keep your stupidity in the archives

> > forever?

> > That reminds me, are you the idiot who accused me of 'hiding behind

> > googlegroups', or was that some other hapless douche bag grasping at

> > straws? It's hard to keep you poor saps straight.

>

> You DO hide behind GoogleGroups so its entirely possible I said that.

I guess when you've got nothing else you have to make meaningless

accusations.

Let me try:

You hide behind [whatever you use to post]!!!

Nah, I take it back. I tried to play along but that's just too

stupid.

Like you!!!

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 19, 9:35 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1192736736.640875.254290@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

>> > On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >>news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> >> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going.

>> >> >> Why

>> >> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

>> >> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary

>> >> >> actually

>> >> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

>> >> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using

>> >> >> their

>> >> >> death to score political points?

>> >> > <crickets.wav>

>> >> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

>> >> ways...

>> >> Like cancelling my posts....

>> >> Anyway...

>> >> Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following the

>> >> WTC

>> >> Bombing.

>> >> Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the ones

>> >> where

>> >> TV cameras were present.

>> >> Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

>> >> So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

>> > "hitlery" <eyes rolling at how lame that is> was "cashing in on our

>> > nation's dead heros" when she attended and "ignored them" when she

>> > didn't. Meanwhile, Bush was 'honoring them' when he attended.

>> I don't think Bush attended ANY 9/11 WTC Funerals.

>> > Come on. Even delusional, retarded, dumb hick YOU must acknowledge

>> > how bizarre that is.

>> Its not bizarre in any way. Rudy was the Mayor. He should have attebded

>> the funerals and he did. Hitlary was the Senator. She should have

>> attended

>> the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.) These

>> are

>> just facts.

> Saying that someone should go to a funeral a FACT. Too funny.

> Anyway, in your opinion Rudy should have attended, Hillary should have

> attended, but Bush shouldn't have attended?

> I wonder where are you getting these rules from.

Common sense.

>> Is it a coincidence that Hitlary ONLY attended those few funerals that

>> were

>> televised?

> I also wonder where you got a list of not only who attended which

> funerals, but which funerals were televised. You had better provide

> some records. Otherwise, I'll have to assume you're talking out of

> your ass.

Feel free to assume anything you want.

>> You decide.

>> > Oh, and to finish it up, if 'dems' are "ignoring" firefighters when

>> > they miss funerals, what is Bush doing when he misses them?

>> > Can't wait for this...

>> They made the decision that since the President can't attend EVERY

>> funeral

>> he shouldn't attend ANY funeral so as to not suggest that he favored any

>> particular person or firehouse or cops vesus firefighters, etc.

>> I always thought that was a stupid (although accurate and true)

>> explanation.

> Well it's certainly a convenient excuse.

Its a reasonable reason. The stupid part is mentioning it.

> Anyway, I hesitate to give Rudy credit for going to, as you say, all

> 300+ funerals. On the one hand it could have been a sincere

> expression of respect, on the other a calculated publicity stunt

> motivated by political aspirations. Do you think Rudy has political

> aspirations?

I don't know if he had political aspirations then.

> Oh, and I'll wait for your explanation of why the line is drawn

> between state and country, when it comes to who should attend

> funerals.

> IOW it happened in NY City (in the state of NY, country of USA), so

> your opinion (even though you incorrectly called it a fact) is as

> follows:

> city representatives (eg mayor) SHOULD attend funerals

> state representatives (eg senators) SHOULD attend funerals

> country representative (the president) DOESN'T NEED TO attend funerals

Yep, that sounds reasonable to me.

There wouldn't be much time left in the day if the President attended every

cop and firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in America would there???

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 19, 9:37 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1192737237.490358.301420@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

>> > On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >>news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> >> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going.

>> >> >> Why

>> >> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

>> >> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary

>> >> >> actually

>> >> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

>> >> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using

>> >> >> their

>> >> >> death to score political points?

>> >> > <crickets.wav>

>> >> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

>> >> ways...

>> >> Like cancelling my posts....

>> > NOW what are you babbling about? How could I cancel your posts?

>> I didn't say you did.

> Look up 4 lines, stupid.

> Or maybe it was a different Patriot Games.

I said: "Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in

unusual ways...Like cancelling my posts...."

Your name isn't mentioned.

Nobody's name is mentioned.

On Oct 8, 5:16 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

> b) Hillary Clinton (the first "Dem" that popped into my head) has also

> honored firefighters.

Yet she is too busy to be present when a resident of her state is

posthumously awarded the MOH.

"Daniel" <sabot120mm@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 8, 5:16 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> b) Hillary Clinton (the first "Dem" that popped into my head) has also

>> honored firefighters.

> Yet she is too busy to be present when a resident of her state is

> posthumously awarded the MOH.

She is truly a disgusting America-hating military-hating bitch!

On Oct 20, 4:55 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1192889287.136505.308860@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

>

>

>

> > On Oct 19, 9:35 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >>news:1192736736.640875.254290@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

> >> > On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> >> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >> >>news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

> >> >> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

> >> >> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going.

> >> >> >> Why

> >> >> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a right

> >> >> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary

> >> >> >> actually

> >> >> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or is

> >> >> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using

> >> >> >> their

> >> >> >> death to score political points?

> >> >> > <crickets.wav>

> >> >> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in unusual

> >> >> ways...

> >> >> Like cancelling my posts....

> >> >> Anyway...

> >> >> Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following the

> >> >> WTC

> >> >> Bombing.

> >> >> Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the ones

> >> >> where

> >> >> TV cameras were present.

> >> >> Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

> >> >> So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

> >> > "hitlery" <eyes rolling at how lame that is> was "cashing in on our

> >> > nation's dead heros" when she attended and "ignored them" when she

> >> > didn't. Meanwhile, Bush was 'honoring them' when he attended.

> >> I don't think Bush attended ANY 9/11 WTC Funerals.

> >> > Come on. Even delusional, retarded, dumb hick YOU must acknowledge

> >> > how bizarre that is.

> >> Its not bizarre in any way. Rudy was the Mayor. He should have attebded

> >> the funerals and he did. Hitlary was the Senator. She should have

> >> attended

> >> the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.) These

> >> are

> >> just facts.

> > Saying that someone should go to a funeral a FACT. Too funny.

> > Anyway, in your opinion Rudy should have attended, Hillary should have

> > attended, but Bush shouldn't have attended?

> > I wonder where are you getting these rules from.

>

> Common sense.

>

> >> Is it a coincidence that Hitlary ONLY attended those few funerals that

> >> were

> >> televised?

> > I also wonder where you got a list of not only who attended which

> > funerals, but which funerals were televised. You had better provide

> > some records. Otherwise, I'll have to assume you're talking out of

> > your ass.

>

> Feel free to assume anything you want.

>

> >> You decide.

> >> > Oh, and to finish it up, if 'dems' are "ignoring" firefighters when

> >> > they miss funerals, what is Bush doing when he misses them?

> >> > Can't wait for this...

> >> They made the decision that since the President can't attend EVERY

> >> funeral

> >> he shouldn't attend ANY funeral so as to not suggest that he favored any

> >> particular person or firehouse or cops vesus firefighters, etc.

> >> I always thought that was a stupid (although accurate and true)

> >> explanation.

> > Well it's certainly a convenient excuse.

>

> Its a reasonable reason. The stupid part is mentioning it.

>

> > Anyway, I hesitate to give Rudy credit for going to, as you say, all

> > 300+ funerals. On the one hand it could have been a sincere

> > expression of respect, on the other a calculated publicity stunt

> > motivated by political aspirations. Do you think Rudy has political

> > aspirations?

>

> I don't know if he had political aspirations then.

hahah. OK, that's all I need to know about you.

That spoke volumes about the common sense you brag about.

>

> > Oh, and I'll wait for your explanation of why the line is drawn

> > between state and country, when it comes to who should attend

> > funerals.

> > IOW it happened in NY City (in the state of NY, country of USA), so

> > your opinion (even though you incorrectly called it a fact) is as

> > follows:

> > city representatives (eg mayor) SHOULD attend funerals

> > state representatives (eg senators) SHOULD attend funerals

> > country representative (the president) DOESN'T NEED TO attend funerals

>

> Yep, that sounds reasonable to me.

Well, at least you came down off of your "it's a fact" stance to a

much more mousy (but appropriate) "it sounds reasonable to me".

>

> There wouldn't be much time left in the day if the President attended every

> cop and firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in America would there???

Nor would there be "if a Senator who attended every cop and

firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in New York , would there???"

It's so much fun blowing gaping holes in your "logic".

On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> I said: "Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in

> unusual ways...Like cancelling my posts...."

>

> Your name isn't mentioned.

>

> Nobody's name is mentioned.

I love it when you try to play lawyer. Unfortunately for you, you're

not very good at it.

In this case, your argument begs the question "How could ANYONE, other

than you, cancel your posts?"

I'll wait for your brilliant response, wannabe counselor.

On Oct 20, 5:52 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 8, 5:16 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>

> > b) Hillary Clinton (the first "Dem" that popped into my head) has also

> > honored firefighters.

>

> Yet she is too busy to be present when a resident of her state is

> posthumously awarded the MOH.

If you read this thread you'll see that I'm simply using HC as an

example to show stupid hick Patriot Games that his logic is not logic

at all, but simply an arbitrary, ever-changing set of rules that

benefits his point of view in every instance. I don't give two shits

about HC, and frankly I hope she does not end up becoming the

democratic nominee. I think if she does, the democrats will lose.

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 20, 4:55 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1192889287.136505.308860@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

>> > On Oct 19, 9:35 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >>news:1192736736.640875.254290@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

>> >> > On Oct 18, 11:25 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> >> >> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >> >>news:1192666403.103759.107790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> >> >> > On Oct 9, 3:38 pm, american.male.1...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> >> >> More importantly, you're actually giving her "credit" for going.

>> >> >> >> Why

>> >> >> >> would you do that? Shouldn't you be saying, like Newsmax (a

>> >> >> >> right

>> >> >> >> wingnut operation), that it's just a photo-op? Is Hilary

>> >> >> >> actually

>> >> >> >> "doing the right thing" or "being respectful" by showing up? Or

>> >> >> >> is

>> >> >> >> she doing the opposite- DISrespecting the firefighters by using

>> >> >> >> their

>> >> >> >> death to score political points?

>> >> >> > <crickets.wav>

>> >> >> Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in

>> >> >> unusual

>> >> >> ways...

>> >> >> Like cancelling my posts....

>> >> >> Anyway...

>> >> >> Bubba and Hitlary NEVER attended a ceremony or funeral following

>> >> >> the

>> >> >> WTC

>> >> >> Bombing.

>> >> >> Hitlary attended only a FEW funerals following 9/11, and ONLY the

>> >> >> ones

>> >> >> where

>> >> >> TV cameras were present.

>> >> >> Rudy missed LESS funerals than Hitlary attended in total.

>> >> >> So, yes, Hitlary was cashing in on our nation's dead heros.

>> >> > "hitlery" <eyes rolling at how lame that is> was "cashing in on our

>> >> > nation's dead heros" when she attended and "ignored them" when she

>> >> > didn't. Meanwhile, Bush was 'honoring them' when he attended.

>> >> I don't think Bush attended ANY 9/11 WTC Funerals.

>> >> > Come on. Even delusional, retarded, dumb hick YOU must acknowledge

>> >> > how bizarre that is.

>> >> Its not bizarre in any way. Rudy was the Mayor. He should have

>> >> attebded

>> >> the funerals and he did. Hitlary was the Senator. She should have

>> >> attended

>> >> the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.)

>> >> These

>> >> are

>> >> just facts.

>> > Saying that someone should go to a funeral a FACT. Too funny.

>> > Anyway, in your opinion Rudy should have attended, Hillary should have

>> > attended, but Bush shouldn't have attended?

>> > I wonder where are you getting these rules from.

>> Common sense.

>> >> Is it a coincidence that Hitlary ONLY attended those few funerals that

>> >> were

>> >> televised?

>> > I also wonder where you got a list of not only who attended which

>> > funerals, but which funerals were televised. You had better provide

>> > some records. Otherwise, I'll have to assume you're talking out of

>> > your ass.

>> Feel free to assume anything you want.

>> >> You decide.

>> >> > Oh, and to finish it up, if 'dems' are "ignoring" firefighters when

>> >> > they miss funerals, what is Bush doing when he misses them?

>> >> > Can't wait for this...

>> >> They made the decision that since the President can't attend EVERY

>> >> funeral

>> >> he shouldn't attend ANY funeral so as to not suggest that he favored

>> >> any

>> >> particular person or firehouse or cops vesus firefighters, etc.

>> >> I always thought that was a stupid (although accurate and true)

>> >> explanation.

>> > Well it's certainly a convenient excuse.

>> Its a reasonable reason. The stupid part is mentioning it.

>> > Anyway, I hesitate to give Rudy credit for going to, as you say, all

>> > 300+ funerals. On the one hand it could have been a sincere

>> > expression of respect, on the other a calculated publicity stunt

>> > motivated by political aspirations. Do you think Rudy has political

>> > aspirations?

>> I don't know if he had political aspirations then.

> hahah. OK, that's all I need to know about you.

> That spoke volumes about the common sense you brag about.

Nobody is stopping you from doing a little reserarch and finding out if in

2001 Rudy had political aspirations.

>> > Oh, and I'll wait for your explanation of why the line is drawn

>> > between state and country, when it comes to who should attend

>> > funerals.

>> > IOW it happened in NY City (in the state of NY, country of USA), so

>> > your opinion (even though you incorrectly called it a fact) is as

>> > follows:

>> > city representatives (eg mayor) SHOULD attend funerals

>> > state representatives (eg senators) SHOULD attend funerals

>> > country representative (the president) DOESN'T NEED TO attend funerals

>> Yep, that sounds reasonable to me.

> Well, at least you came down off of your "it's a fact" stance to a

> much more mousy (but appropriate) "it sounds reasonable to me".

Its not my fault you're not very smart.

"It's a fact" isn't MY quote. Its not my fault you're not very smart.

My quote would be "These are just facts" and was in regard to who attended

what funeral.

Its not my fault you're not very smart.

>> There wouldn't be much time left in the day if the President attended

>> every

>> cop and firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in America would there???

> Nor would there be "if a Senator who attended every cop and

> firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in New York , would there???"

Of course there would be. There are very few cop and firefighter deaths in

even New York City each year. If this basic math is too hard just say so.

> It's so much fun blowing gaping holes in your "logic".

When are you going to start?

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> I said: "Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in

>> unusual ways...Like cancelling my posts...."

>> Your name isn't mentioned.

>> Nobody's name is mentioned.

> I love it when you try to play lawyer. Unfortunately for you, you're

> not very good at it.

> In this case, your argument begs the question "How could ANYONE, other

> than you, cancel your posts?"

Its not my fault you're not very smart.

There's a standard USENET command protocol used to Cancel a post.

> I'll wait for your brilliant response, wannabe counselor.

Its not my fault you're not very smart.

On Oct 21, 2:25 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>

> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

You need to come up with a better comment for when you're stymied.

>

> "It's a fact" isn't MY quote. Its not my fault you're not very smart.

>

> My quote would be "These are just facts" and was in regard to who attended

> what funeral.

Oh my God- you are making an actual point! Let me check...

Nope, you're wrong. When you refered to "facts", it wasn't just in

regard to who attended what funeral, as you just claimed.

Nope. Here are your words, stupid:

She should have attended

the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.)

These are

just facts.

See- you called your opinion of who should do what 'facts'.

Just like I said you did.

>

> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

This comment should cause you particular embarrassment, given the

above.

>

> >> There wouldn't be much time left in the day if the President attended

> >> every

> >> cop and firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in America would there???

> > Nor would there be "if a Senator who attended every cop and

> > firefighter funeral in EVERY CITY in New York , would there???"

>

> Of course there would be. There are very few cop and firefighter deaths in

> even New York City each year. If this basic math is too hard just say so.

I'm actually starting to feel guilty for sparring with someone of such

obviously low intelligence.

But I must point out that what I said was there wouldn't be much time

left if a Senator attended every cop and firefighter funeral in

EVERY CITY in New York .

Yet, right after I made this statement, you refer only to New York

City. Did you know that New York is also a state, and that the

senator is NY STATE's, not just NY CITY's senator?

>

> > It's so much fun blowing gaping holes in your "logic".

>

> When are you going to start?

Oh, irony.

Poor, dumb hick.

On Oct 21, 2:27 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>

> news:1192977691.059581.110880@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

>

> > On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

> >> I said: "Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me in

> >> unusual ways...Like cancelling my posts...."

> >> Your name isn't mentioned.

> >> Nobody's name is mentioned.

> > I love it when you try to play lawyer. Unfortunately for you, you're

> > not very good at it.

> > In this case, your argument begs the question "How could ANYONE, other

> > than you, cancel your posts?"

>

> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

>

> There's a standard USENET command protocol used to Cancel a post.

>

> > I'll wait for your brilliant response, wannabe counselor.

>

> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

Oh, I see. And it makes the post disappear from everyone's hard

drive?

You're dumb.

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 21, 2:25 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

> You need to come up with a better comment for when you're stymied.

Hahahahahah!!!

>> "It's a fact" isn't MY quote. Its not my fault you're not very smart.

>> My quote would be "These are just facts" and was in regard to who

>> attended

>> what funeral.

> Oh my God- you are making an actual point! Let me check...

> Nope, you're wrong. When you refered to "facts", it wasn't just in

> regard to who attended what funeral, as you just claimed.

> Nope. Here are your words, stupid:

> She should have attended

> the funerals and mostly didn't. (Same with the asshole Schumer.)

> These are

> just facts.

> See- you called your opinion of who should do what 'facts'.

> Just like I said you did.

Its not my fault you're not very smart.

Here, I'm gonna help you: "She should have attended the funerals and mostly

didn't."

"She should have attended the funerals..." IS AN OPINION and can't EVER be a

FACT.

"...and mostly didn't." IS A FACT.

Its not my fault you're not very smart.

<american.male.1986@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Oct 21, 2:27 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> <american.male.1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:1192977691.059581.110880@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

>> > On Oct 20, 4:58 pm, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:

>> >> I said: "Some of my most adoring fans express their adoration for me

>> >> in

>> >> unusual ways...Like cancelling my posts...."

>> >> Your name isn't mentioned.

>> >> Nobody's name is mentioned.

>> > I love it when you try to play lawyer. Unfortunately for you, you're

>> > not very good at it.

>> > In this case, your argument begs the question "How could ANYONE, other

>> > than you, cancel your posts?"

>> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

>> There's a standard USENET command protocol used to Cancel a post.

>> > I'll wait for your brilliant response, wannabe counselor.

>> Its not my fault you're not very smart.

> Oh, I see. And it makes the post disappear from everyone's hard

> drive?

Did I say that? No, it deletes the post from every newsgroup on every

newsserver. It also leaves a copy of itself on the cancel newsgroup.

As I mentioned in another post I don't think a cancel posting is what's

being done.

> You're dumb.

The best thing would be for you to take your asswhooping like a man and live

with it....