Bush pleads with Saudis for more oil; OPEC replies "Kiss our asses,George" -- then they decide to ke

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Remember a couple of weeks ago when the Liar-in-Chief made the rounds
of the Middle East where he shacked up in a tent in the desert with
his asshole buddies, the Saudis? In addition to doing a Michael
Jackson imitation while trying to do the Saudi sword dance, George
Bush summoned the courage to get on his knees, give the Saudis a blow
job, wipe the result off his chin, and beg: "Please, Mr. Raghead,
could we have some more oil?"

Today he got his answer. OPEC -- at the urging of the Saudis -- has
decided to NOT increase output.

Maybe if Bush had not invaded a fellow Arab country and maybe if he
was not threatening war with Iran and maybe if he'd back away from
Israel . . . . . .

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OPEC ministers turned down calls for extra output on Thursday, voicing
concern that the weak US economy may cause oil prices to drop further
from recent historic peaks above 100 dollars.

Most members of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries,
which pumps 40 percent of world oil, said the cartel should maintain
its production level at its official meeting in the Austrian capital
on Friday.

A freeze would be a snub to the United States, the world's biggest
energy consumer, whose President George W. Bush recently urged OPEC to
hike output to help further reduce high oil prices that stunt economic
growth and fuel inflation.

However, lower oil prices are not welcomed by crude producers as their
income from exporting the commodity drops.

"We have no option now" but to hold our output target of 29.67 million
oil barrels, Qatar's Minister of Energy and Industry, Abdullah bin
Hamad Al Attiyah, said on arrival in Vienna.

"We are very concerned about the world economy (...) The American
economy will (influence) oil prices," he told reporters.

By Thursday, the price of oil had slumped by about 10 percent since
New York crude struck a record high of 100.09 dollars a barrel at the
start of January.

Kuwait's acting oil minister, Mohammed Al-Aleem, told reporters that
the 13-member OPEC was "a little worried about the impact of a
slowdown or a recession in the United States" on oil prices.

"The price, for the time being, has been going a little bit down," he
said.

"Within three weeks, it's been about 10 dollars. We have to see why,
what the problem is, and whether it's going to continue at the same
pace."

OPEC President and Algeria's Energy Minister Chakib Khelil indicated
that the cartel could discuss at its meeting whether a hike would help
to support the world economy.

Venezuela's Minister of Energy and Petroleum, Rafael Ramirez, said he
would call for a cut in output at OPEC's scheduled meeting in March
should prices continue to fall.

Meanwhile some members of OPEC were "more sensitive to political
pressure," Khelil said Thursday, in an apparent reference to the Gulf
States and Saudi Arabia which were more likely to listen to US
complaints about high prices.

On Wednesday, OPEC kingpin Saudi Arabia, the world's biggest crude
producer, voiced satisfaction at the present levels of crude supply
and demand.

"The fundamentals are sound," Saudi Oil Minister Ali al-Nuaimi had
told reporters, as he expressed his views on the current demand and
supply situation for crude oil.

OPEC's meeting on Friday is an extraordinary get-together that was
scheduled at the group's last official gathering on December 5 in Abu
Dhabi.

There, OPEC decided against increasing production, insisting the
market was well supplied and that high prices were caused by
speculative activity, not a reaction to the demand and supply
situation.

Ministers repeated this view in Vienna on Thursday.

OPEC comprises Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq,
Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates
and Venezuela.

Iraq is the only member without an output quota owing to unrest in the
country, while analysts say OPEC is in fact producing above its
official ceiling by about 180,000 barrels of oil each day.
 
"Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fceaa6b7-4671-4ddf-8358-23da4ccdb9ac@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> Remember a couple of weeks ago when the Liar-in-Chief made the rounds
> of the Middle East where he shacked up in a tent in the desert with
> his asshole buddies, the Saudis? In addition to doing a Michael
> Jackson imitation while trying to do the Saudi sword dance, George
> Bush summoned the courage to get on his knees, give the Saudis a blow
> job, wipe the result off his chin, and beg: "Please, Mr. Raghead,
> could we have some more oil?"
>
> Today he got his answer. OPEC -- at the urging of the Saudis -- has
> decided to NOT increase output.
>
> Maybe if Bush had not invaded a fellow Arab country and maybe if he
> was not threatening war with Iran and maybe if he'd back away from
> Israel . . . . . .
>


Gosh, that's a very Ron Paulian position you have there. Who are you
supporting, again? If I remember correctly, it's OBAMA, who has made clear
that he is a "friend of Israel". So expecting anything different under his
administration is foolish. Same for Clinton, McCain, Romney, and the
Bible-thumping fundie Huckleberry.
 
<lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 8:43 pm, "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"
<PopUlist...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> OPEC ministers turned down calls for extra output on Thursday, voicing
> concern that the weak US economy may cause oil prices to drop further
> from recent historic peaks above 100 dollars.


Two things...

- Maybe Bush should crawl into Chavez's tent next?
- OPEC seems determined to drive the world economy into a recession.

Three:
- Ain't it time we replaced the US's dependency upon foreign oil for
its very existence.. with our own energy sources?

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---The largest consumer of petro-energy is the AUTOMOBILE. Until you get
people out of their cars and into/onto alternative means of transportation
the problem will not lessen. This is a problem that will take decades to
solve. Decades.

---Hybrid cars are a joke. The mileage they achieve is possible with more
efficient gasoline engines. The modern diesel engines made by VW are capable
of excellent mileage as well.

---Americans' love affair with big vehicles will have to end. We saw this in
the 1970s, when Detroit land yachts were replaced with compact Japanese and
European cars. One problem---Americans weren't overwhelmingly obese then.
Can you imagine the obese people you see everyday driving Toyota Yaris-sized
cars? Putting two 300 pounders in a car with a small engine would yield the
accelleration of a riding lawn mower.

---Electric cars? Sure. Fine. If the cost of lithium-ion batteries(or
superior technology) can be reduced through economy of scale or through
government subsidies, they can have a chance. If the cruising range is 300
miles or so on a charge, that would allow lots of people to use one for
their daily driving. Using one on a long trip would require planning and
massive infrastructure improvements(charging stations nationwide at
acceptable intervals). Not likely to happen.

---Mass transit? Again, this would require a total rethinking of the layout
of our population centers, and prohibitive amounts of money. Who's going to
build the millions of miles of track? Are cities ready to have trolley cars?
No.

---Bicycles? In a perfect world, yes. Putting people on bicycles would
reduce oil consumption, reduce pollution, and reduce obesity. But even if
the government gave EVERY American a free bicycle and spent billions and
billions of dollars to make urban centers bicycle friendly, that doesn't
help the people who live 20+ miles from work, or have to haul kids around.

---In short, we're out of luck. We will continue to be at the mercy of OPEC
and whatever price they deem to charge. It's not going to get any cheaper
because global demand isn't going to lessen. Get used to paying $3 or more
forever.
 
PopUlist349@hotmail.com (Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names) wrote in
news:fceaa6b7-4671-4ddf-8358-23da4ccdb9ac@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> Maybe if Bush had not invaded a fellow Arab country and maybe if he
> was not threatening war with Iran and maybe if he'd back away from
> Israel . . . . . .


So, you're saying that the US is the only country that gets any oil
from OPEC and that they're holding their output steady just to harm
the US?

Now, that's interesting.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
 
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