Bush White House wanted to fire all 93 federal prosecutors

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Remember: Hitler was elected, he did not take over in an armed coup. One
of the first things Hitler did was take over the German judicial system.
All German federal prosecutors and judges were required to attend "training
seminars" where they were instructed, by Nazi officials, as to how they
would decide cases and what cases they would prosecute.



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Firings Had Genesis in White House
Ex-Counsel Miers First Suggested Dismissing Prosecutors 2 Years Ago,
Documents Show

By Dan Eggen and John Solomon
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, March 13, 2007; A01



The White House suggested two years ago that the Justice Department fire all
93 U.S. attorneys, a proposal that eventually resulted in the dismissals of
eight prosecutors last year, according to e-mails and internal documents
that the administration will provide to Congress today.

The dismissals took place after President Bush told Attorney General Alberto
R. Gonzales in October that he had received complaints that some prosecutors
had not energetically pursued voter-fraud investigations, according to a
White House spokeswoman.

Gonzales approved the idea of firing a smaller group of U.S. attorneys
shortly after taking office in February 2005. The aide in charge of the
dismissals -- his chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson -- resigned yesterday,
officials said, after acknowledging that he did not tell key Justice
officials about the extent of his communications with the White House,
leading them to provide incomplete information to Congress.

Lawmakers requested the documents as part of an investigation into whether
the firings were politically motivated. While it is unclear whether the
documents, which were reviewed yesterday by The Washington Post, will answer
Congress's questions, they show that the White House and other
administration officials were more closely involved in the dismissals, and
at a much earlier date, than they have previously acknowledged.

Seven U.S. attorneys were fired on Dec. 7 and another was fired months
earlier, with little explanation from the Justice Department. Several former
prosecutors have since alleged intimidation, including improper telephone
calls from GOP lawmakers or their aides, and have alleged threats of
retaliation by a Justice Department official.

Administration officials have portrayed the firings as a routine personnel
matter, designed primarily to rid the department of a handful of poor
performers.

But the documents and interviews indicate that the idea for the firings
originated at least two years ago, when then-White House counsel Harriet E.
Miers suggested to Sampson in February 2005 that all prosecutors be
dismissed and replaced.

Gonzales rejected that idea as impractical and disruptive, Justice officials
said, but over the next 22 months Sampson orchestrated more limited
dismissals.

"I recommend that the Department of Justice and the Office of the Counsel to
the President work together to seek the replacement of a limited number of
U.S. Attorneys," Sampson wrote to Miers in January 2006. A "limited number
of U.S. attorneys could be targeted for removal and replacement, mitigating
the shock to the system that would result from an across the board firing."

Administration officials say they are braced for a new round of criticism
today from lawmakers who may feel misled by recent testimony from Gonzales,
Deputy Attorney General Paul J. McNulty and William E. Moschella, principal
associate deputy attorney general. Several Democrats have called in recent
days for Gonzales to resign.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said that "it doesn't appear the
president was told about a list nor shown a list" of U.S. attorneys at any
point in the discussions. She said White House political adviser Karl Rove
had an early conversation with Miers about the idea of firing all chief
prosecutors and did not think it was wise.

Bush mentioned complaints about voter-fraud investigations to Gonzales in a
conversation in October 2006, Perino said. Gonzales does not recall the
conversation, Justice Department officials said.

Bush "believes informally he may have mentioned it to the AG during the
meeting discussing other matters," Perino said. "White House officials
including the president did not direct DOJ to take any specific action with
regards to any specific U.S. attorney."

Rove and other White House officials also forwarded complaints that U.S.
attorneys were not doing enough to prosecute voter fraud.

Since the 2000 presidential election ended in dispute in Florida,
Republicans have repeatedly raised concerns about possible voter fraud,
alleging that convicted felons and other ineligible voters have been
permitted to cast ballots to the benefit of Democrats.

Congressional committees yesterday requested that Rove testify before them
about the firings; the House Judiciary Committee also requested that Miers
appear.

The e-mails show that Rove was interested in the appointment of a former
aide, Tim Griffin, as an Arkansas prosecutor. Sampson wrote in one that
"getting him appointed was important to Harriet, Karl, etc."

Sampson sent an e-mail to Miers in March 2005 that ranked all 93 U.S.
attorneys. Strong performers "exhibited loyalty" to the administration; low
performers were "weak U.S. attorneys who have been ineffectual managers and
prosecutors, chafed against Administration initiatives, etc." A third group
merited no opinion.

At least a dozen prosecutors were on a "target list" to be fired at one time
or another, the e-mails show.

Only three of those eventually fired were given low rankings: Margaret
Chiara in Grand Rapids, Mich.; Bud Cummins in Little Rock; and Carol S. Lam
in San Diego. Two were given strong evaluations: David C. Iglesias in
Albuquerque, who has alleged political interference from GOP lawmakers, and
Kevin V. Ryan in San Francisco, whose firing has generated few complaints
because of widespread management and morale problems in his office.

Justice Department spokeswoman Tasia Scolinos said last night that Gonzales
will announce new ways of evaluating U.S. attorneys, but said the department
still believes the firings were "based on performance-related
considerations."

In January 2006, Sampson sent to the White House the first list of seven
candidates for dismissal, including four who were fired at year's end:
Chiara, Cummins, Lam and Ryan. The list also recommended Griffin and other
replacements, most of whom were edited from documents viewed by The Post.

In September, Sampson produced another list of firing candidates, telling
the White House that Cummins was "in the process of being pushed out" and
providing the names of eight others whom "we should consider pushing out."
Five on that list were fired in December; the others were spared.

Iglesias, the New Mexico prosecutor, was not on that list. Justice officials
said Sampson added him in October, based in part on complaints from Sen.
Pete V. Domenici and other New Mexico Republicans that he was not
prosecuting enough voter-fraud cases.

Sampson also strongly urged bypassing Congress in naming replacements, using
a little-known power slipped into the renewal of the USA Patriot Act in
March 2006 that allows the attorney general to name interim replacements
without Senate confirmation.

"I am only in favor of executing on a plan to push some USAs out if we
really are ready and willing to put in the time necessary to select
candidates and get them appointed," Sampson wrote in a Sept. 17 memo to
Miers. "It will be counterproductive to DOJ operations if we push USAs out
and then don't have replacements ready to roll immediately.

"I strongly recommend that as a matter of administration, we utilize the new
statutory provisions that authorize the AG to make USA appointments," he
wrote.

By avoiding Senate confirmation, Sampson added, "we can give far less
deference to home state senators and thereby get 1.) our preferred person
appointed and 2.) do it far faster and more efficiently at less political
costs to the White House."

"Kyle thanks for this," Miers wrote back. "I have not forgotten I need to
follow up on the info. But things have been crazy."

On the day of the Dec. 7 firings, Miers's deputy, William Kelley, wrote that
Domenici's chief of staff "is happy as a clam" about Iglesias.

A week later, Sampson wrote: "Domenici is going to send over names tomorrow
(not even waiting for Iglesias's body to cool)."

Miers resigned as White House counsel this January.

The documents also provide new details about the case of Griffin, a former
Republican National Committee researcher who was named interim U.S. attorney
in Little Rock in December.

E-mails show that Justice officials discussed bypassing the two Democratic
senators in Arkansas, who normally would have had input into the
appointment, as early as last August. By mid-December, Sampson was
suggesting that Gonzales exercise his newfound appointment authority to put
Griffin in place until the end of Bush's term.

"f we don't ever exercise it then what's the point of having it?" Sampson
wrote to a White House aide.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/12/AR2007031201818.html

END QUOTE
 
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 07:02:02 -0400, "Joe S." <no_one@nowhere.net>
wrote:

>Remember: Hitler was elected, he did not take over in an armed coup.


I thought he was appointed chancellor? Guess I was wrong.

>One
>of the first things Hitler did was take over the German judicial system.
>All German federal prosecutors and judges were required to attend "training
>seminars" where they were instructed, by Nazi officials, as to how they
>would decide cases and what cases they would prosecute.
>
>
>
>QUOTE
>
>Firings Had Genesis in White House
>Ex-Counsel Miers First Suggested Dismissing Prosecutors 2 Years Ago,
>Documents Show
>
>By Dan Eggen and John Solomon
>Washington Post Staff Writers
>Tuesday, March 13, 2007; A01
>
>
>
>The White House suggested two years ago that the Justice Department fire all
>93 U.S. attorneys, a proposal that eventually resulted in the dismissals of
>eight prosecutors last year, according to e-mails and internal documents
>that the administration will provide to Congress today.
>
>The dismissals took place after President Bush told Attorney General Alberto
>R. Gonzales in October that he had received complaints that some prosecutors
>had not energetically pursued voter-fraud investigations, according to a
>White House spokeswoman.
>
>Gonzales approved the idea of firing a smaller group of U.S. attorneys
>shortly after taking office in February 2005. The aide in charge of the
>dismissals -- his chief of staff, D. Kyle Sampson -- resigned yesterday,
>officials said, after acknowledging that he did not tell key Justice
>officials about the extent of his communications with the White House,
>leading them to provide incomplete information to Congress.
>
>Lawmakers requested the documents as part of an investigation into whether
>the firings were politically motivated. While it is unclear whether the
>documents, which were reviewed yesterday by The Washington Post, will answer
>Congress's questions, they show that the White House and other
>administration officials were more closely involved in the dismissals, and
>at a much earlier date, than they have previously acknowledged.
>
>Seven U.S. attorneys were fired on Dec. 7 and another was fired months
>earlier, with little explanation from the Justice Department. Several former
>prosecutors have since alleged intimidation, including improper telephone
>calls from GOP lawmakers or their aides, and have alleged threats of
>retaliation by a Justice Department official.
>
>Administration officials have portrayed the firings as a routine personnel
>matter, designed primarily to rid the department of a handful of poor
>performers.
>
>But the documents and interviews indicate that the idea for the firings
>originated at least two years ago, when then-White House counsel Harriet E.
>Miers suggested to Sampson in February 2005 that all prosecutors be
>dismissed and replaced.
>
>Gonzales rejected that idea as impractical and disruptive, Justice officials
>said, but over the next 22 months Sampson orchestrated more limited
>dismissals.
>
>"I recommend that the Department of Justice and the Office of the Counsel to
>the President work together to seek the replacement of a limited number of
>U.S. Attorneys," Sampson wrote to Miers in January 2006. A "limited number
>of U.S. attorneys could be targeted for removal and replacement, mitigating
>the shock to the system that would result from an across the board firing."
>
>Administration officials say they are braced for a new round of criticism
>today from lawmakers who may feel misled by recent testimony from Gonzales,
>Deputy Attorney General Paul J. McNulty and William E. Moschella, principal
>associate deputy attorney general. Several Democrats have called in recent
>days for Gonzales to resign.
>
>White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said that "it doesn't appear the
>president was told about a list nor shown a list" of U.S. attorneys at any
>point in the discussions. She said White House political adviser Karl Rove
>had an early conversation with Miers about the idea of firing all chief
>prosecutors and did not think it was wise.
>
>Bush mentioned complaints about voter-fraud investigations to Gonzales in a
>conversation in October 2006, Perino said. Gonzales does not recall the
>conversation, Justice Department officials said.
>
>Bush "believes informally he may have mentioned it to the AG during the
>meeting discussing other matters," Perino said. "White House officials
>including the president did not direct DOJ to take any specific action with
>regards to any specific U.S. attorney."
>
>Rove and other White House officials also forwarded complaints that U.S.
>attorneys were not doing enough to prosecute voter fraud.
>
>Since the 2000 presidential election ended in dispute in Florida,
>Republicans have repeatedly raised concerns about possible voter fraud,
>alleging that convicted felons and other ineligible voters have been
>permitted to cast ballots to the benefit of Democrats.
>
>Congressional committees yesterday requested that Rove testify before them
>about the firings; the House Judiciary Committee also requested that Miers
>appear.
>
>The e-mails show that Rove was interested in the appointment of a former
>aide, Tim Griffin, as an Arkansas prosecutor. Sampson wrote in one that
>"getting him appointed was important to Harriet, Karl, etc."
>
>Sampson sent an e-mail to Miers in March 2005 that ranked all 93 U.S.
>attorneys. Strong performers "exhibited loyalty" to the administration; low
>performers were "weak U.S. attorneys who have been ineffectual managers and
>prosecutors, chafed against Administration initiatives, etc." A third group
>merited no opinion.
>
>At least a dozen prosecutors were on a "target list" to be fired at one time
>or another, the e-mails show.
>
>Only three of those eventually fired were given low rankings: Margaret
>Chiara in Grand Rapids, Mich.; Bud Cummins in Little Rock; and Carol S. Lam
>in San Diego. Two were given strong evaluations: David C. Iglesias in
>Albuquerque, who has alleged political interference from GOP lawmakers, and
>Kevin V. Ryan in San Francisco, whose firing has generated few complaints
>because of widespread management and morale problems in his office.
>
>Justice Department spokeswoman Tasia Scolinos said last night that Gonzales
>will announce new ways of evaluating U.S. attorneys, but said the department
>still believes the firings were "based on performance-related
>considerations."
>
>In January 2006, Sampson sent to the White House the first list of seven
>candidates for dismissal, including four who were fired at year's end:
>Chiara, Cummins, Lam and Ryan. The list also recommended Griffin and other
>replacements, most of whom were edited from documents viewed by The Post.
>
>In September, Sampson produced another list of firing candidates, telling
>the White House that Cummins was "in the process of being pushed out" and
>providing the names of eight others whom "we should consider pushing out."
>Five on that list were fired in December; the others were spared.
>
>Iglesias, the New Mexico prosecutor, was not on that list. Justice officials
>said Sampson added him in October, based in part on complaints from Sen.
>Pete V. Domenici and other New Mexico Republicans that he was not
>prosecuting enough voter-fraud cases.
>
>Sampson also strongly urged bypassing Congress in naming replacements, using
>a little-known power slipped into the renewal of the USA Patriot Act in
>March 2006 that allows the attorney general to name interim replacements
>without Senate confirmation.
>
>"I am only in favor of executing on a plan to push some USAs out if we
>really are ready and willing to put in the time necessary to select
>candidates and get them appointed," Sampson wrote in a Sept. 17 memo to
>Miers. "It will be counterproductive to DOJ operations if we push USAs out
>and then don't have replacements ready to roll immediately.
>
>"I strongly recommend that as a matter of administration, we utilize the new
>statutory provisions that authorize the AG to make USA appointments," he
>wrote.
>
>By avoiding Senate confirmation, Sampson added, "we can give far less
>deference to home state senators and thereby get 1.) our preferred person
>appointed and 2.) do it far faster and more efficiently at less political
>costs to the White House."
>
>"Kyle thanks for this," Miers wrote back. "I have not forgotten I need to
>follow up on the info. But things have been crazy."
>
>On the day of the Dec. 7 firings, Miers's deputy, William Kelley, wrote that
>Domenici's chief of staff "is happy as a clam" about Iglesias.
>
>A week later, Sampson wrote: "Domenici is going to send over names tomorrow
>(not even waiting for Iglesias's body to cool)."
>
>Miers resigned as White House counsel this January.
>
>The documents also provide new details about the case of Griffin, a former
>Republican National Committee researcher who was named interim U.S. attorney
>in Little Rock in December.
>
>E-mails show that Justice officials discussed bypassing the two Democratic
>senators in Arkansas, who normally would have had input into the
>appointment, as early as last August. By mid-December, Sampson was
>suggesting that Gonzales exercise his newfound appointment authority to put
>Griffin in place until the end of Bush's term.
>
>"f we don't ever exercise it then what's the point of having it?" Sampson
>wrote to a White House aide.
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/12/AR2007031201818.html
>
>END QUOTE
>
 
On Mar 13, 6:02 pm, "Joe S." <no_...@nowhere.net> wrote:
> Remember: Hitler was elected, he did not take over in an armed coup.


The Nazis did pretty well in the election but didn't get a majority.
After the Reichstag fire they held a special election and did slightly
better but still no majority. The Nazi support in the police force
was strong so they had all the opposition congressmen arrested and
thrown in jail. That made it easier to get their bills passed. So
I'd say it was an armed coup, though the army itself was not involved.
 
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