Cheney to AIPAC: Early Iraq pullout would be disasterous for Israel (No coverage of this on the pro-

Cheney to AIPAC: Early Iraq pullout would be disasterous for Israel

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/836374.html

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney addressing the annual AIPAC conference

in Washington D.C. on Sunday. (Reuters)

Last update - 03:03 13/03/2007

Livni to AIPAC: U.S. can't show weakness on Iraq, Iran

By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent, and The Associated Press

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said Monday warned the

U.S. not to show weakness in Iraq, during an address to the American

Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington, D.C.

In a region where "impressions are important," said Livni, countries

must be careful not to demonstrate weakness and surrender to

extremists.

"If we appease the extremists - if they feel that we are backing down

- they will sense victory and become more dangerous not only to the

region, but to the world," she said. "This applies to the decisions

made on Iran, it is true for Iraq, and it is true across the Middle

East."

The comments could be construed as expressing support for the Bush

administration's policy of toughing out a war that is increasingly

unpopular domestically.

Livni said Iran was at the forefront of extremist threats to Israel,

the greater Middle East and the world in general because of its

nuclear ambitions.

"To address extremism is to address Iran," she said, urging tougher UN

sanctions over its nuclear program. "It is a regime which denies the

Holocaust while threatening the world with a new one."

"To those states who know the threat but still hesitate because of

narrow economic or political interests, let me say this: History will

remember."

Also addressing AIPAC, United States Vice President Dick Cheney said

Monday that an early withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq would lead to

disaster and chaos in the Middle East, with either Al-Qaida or Iran

emerging dominant from a bloody sectarian battle.

Cheney laid out a dire sequence of events - all dangerous to Israel -

that could arise if critics of the war, particularly those in

Congress, mandate troop withdrawals or limit funding.

"A precipitous American withdrawal from Iraq would be a disaster for

the United States and the entire Middle East," he said.

"A sudden withdrawal of our coalition would dissipate much of the

effort that's gone into fighting the global war on terror and result

in chaos and mounting danger," he said.

As Congress prepares to debate a Bush administration request for

nearly $100 billion to fund operations in Iraq and Afghanistan for the

rest of the year, Cheney predicted that rejection could lead to a

major new surge in clashes between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.

"Moderates would be crushed, Shiite extremists backed by Iran would be

in an all-out war with Sunni extremists led by Al-Qaida and remnants

of the old Saddam regime," he said.

The scenario, Cheney said, could then lead Sunni governments, such as

Saudi Arabia, to support their compatriots in Iraq and counter Iran's

influence, causing an escalation in sectarian violence and widening

the conflict into a regional war.

If Sunni extremists prevailed, Al-Qaida and its allies could recreate

the safe haven they lost in Afghanistan, except now with the oil

wealth producing weapons of mass destruction and underwriting their

terrorist designs, including their pledge to destroy Israel.

"If Iran's allies prevailed, the regime in Tehran's own designs for

the Middle East would be advanced and the threat to our friends in the

region would only be magnified," Cheney said.

The vice president took aim at congressional efforts to reduce funding

for the Iraq war or impose timelines for withdrawing troops, saying

anti-war lawmakers are undermining U.S. troops in Iraq while

professing in public to support them.

"When members of Congress pursue an anti-war strategy that's been

called 'slow bleeding,' they are not supporting the troops, they are

undermining them," he said. "Anyone can say they support the troops

and we should take them at their word, but the proof will come when

it's time to provide the money."

Cheney noted that some war opponents are among those calling for

tougher action against Iran for both its support of anti-U.S. forces

in Iraq and its nuclear program that Washington alleges is a cover for

atomic weapons development.

"It is simply not consistent for anyone to demand aggressive action

against the menace posed by the Iranian regime while at the same time

acquiescing in a retreat from Iraq that would leave our worst enemies

dramatically emboldened and Israel's best friend, the United States,

dangerously weakened," Cheney said.

"Either we are serious in fighting the war on terror or not."

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Look how the JINSA/PNAC associated Cheney pushed US to attack Iraq for

Israel:

Bush is intent on painting allies and enemies in the Middle East as

evil

By Robert Fisk - 10 September 2002

http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=332011

Just as Americans are recovering from the harrowing television re-runs

of the 11 September attacks, their President is going to launch the

biggest reshaping of the Middle East since the British and French

parcelled out the Arab lands after the 1914-18 war. When he addresses

the United Nations on Thursday, George Bush will be threatening not

only Iraq - which had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes against

humanity in New York and Washington - but Syria, Iran and, by

extension, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

The Syrian Accountability Act, which accuses Damascus of supporting

"terrorism", will come into force as President Bush is speaking and

will follow only days after the State Department branded the Lebanese

Hizbollah as the "A-team of terrorism", more dangerous even than Osama

bin Laden's al-Qa'ida. Like Iraq, the Hizbollah had nothing to do with

the 11 September attacks - indeed, they were among the first to

condemn them - but the White House now seems set on painting allies

and enemies alike in the Middle East as a focus of evil.

Only The Nation among all of America's newspapers and magazines has

dared to point out that a large number of former Israeli lobbyists are

now working within the American administration and the Bush plans for

the Middle East - which could cause a massive political upheaval in

the Arab world - fit perfectly into Israel's own dreams for the

region. The magazine listed Vice-President Dick Cheney - the arch-hawk

in the US administration - and John Bolton, now under-secretary of

state for Arms Control, with Douglas Feith, the third most senior

executive at the Pentagon, as members of the advisory board of the pro-

Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (Jinsa) before

joining the Bush government. Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's

Defence Policy Board, is still an adviser on the institute, as is the

former CIA director James Woolsey.

Michael Ledeen, described by The Nation as "one of the most

influential 'Jinsans' in Washington" has been calling for "total war"

against "terror" - with "regime change" for Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi

Arabia and the Palestinian Authority. Mr Perle advises the Defence

Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld - who refers to the West Bank and Gaza as

"the so-called occupied territories" - and arranged the anti-Saudi

"kernel of evil" briefing by Laurent Murawiec that so outraged the

Saudi royal family last month. The Saudi regime may itself be in great

danger as the princes of the House of Saud attempt to seize more power

for themselves in advance of the depart-ure of the dying King Fahd.

Jinsa's website says it exists to "inform the American defence and

foreign affairs community about the important role Israel can and does

play in bolstering democratic interests in the Mediterranean and the

Middle East". Next month, Michael Rubin of the right-wing and pro-

Israeli American Enterprise Institute - who referred to the outgoing

UN human rights commissioner Mary Robinson as an abettor of

"terrorism" - joins the US Defence Department as an Iran-Iraq

"expert".

According to The Nation, Irving Moskovitz, the California bingo

magnate who has funded settlements in the Israeli-occupied

territories, is a donor as well as a director of Jinsa.

President Bush, of course, will not be talking about the influence of

these pro-Israeli lobbyists when he presents his vision of the Middle

East at the United Nations on Thursday.

Nor will he give the slightest indication that the region is, in the

words of its own kings and dictators, a powder keg of resentment and

anger. The tectonic plates of the Arab world are now grinding with

increasing violence. Into this political earthquake zone, Mr Bush now

seems intent on leading his country, with his loyal British ally.

Most of today's Arab nations were fashioned out of the ruins of the

Ottoman Empire by Britain and France in the aftermath of the First

World War - and Palestinians still blame Britain today for supporting

the formation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

Both European nations stationed tens of thousands of troops across the

region, suppressing Arab revolts in Palestine, Syria and Lebanon -

itself created by the French at the request of its Christian Maronite

community. The whole colonial framework led to the loss of tens of

thousands of lives before both the British and French retreated from

the Middle East.

Now President Bush seems set on following the colonial powers into the

region for another military and political adventure - ostensibly to

spread "democracy" among those nations it most despises (Iraq,

Palestine and Iran) but in fact more likely to increase American

control of an increasingly anti-Western Arab world.

The Arabs themselves warn that this will lead to massive instability

and widespread violence. The Israelis - and their allies in the US

administration - are hell bent on the whole shebang.

http://www.robert-fisk.com

Fisk saw the following 'Men from JINSA and CSP' article from 'The

Nation' and referred to it in the above piece:

Men from JINSA and CSP:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest

Pro-Israel lobby (AIPAC, JINSA, etc.) pushed for US to attack Iraq for

Israel like the fifth columnist traitors to America are currently

doing with Iran (how many more Americans will continue to die/get

horribly maimed for Israel like they currently are in Iraq - no wonder

traitorous Jews have been kicked out of countries over the

generations):

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800

AIPAC and the Neocon (War for Israel) agenda:

Israel's influence of US policy & the Israeli lobby:

"AIPAC is pushing us to war with Iran. AIPAC is the reason that no

Democrats are coming out strongly against war with Iran. AIPAC's

funding is extremely wealthy American Jews and AIPAC is pushing for

war with Iran. So, when people go to Democratic politicians and they

say "listen, I don't want you gettin' out in front and opposing war

with Iran, particularly since you have national aspirations," they

don't say it in the New York Times." - Eric Alterman

Even Colin Powell conveyed in Karen DeYoung's new bio book about him

that the 'JINSA crowd' was/is control of the Pentagon:

A War for Israel? Colin Powell seems to think so:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=61128

(Jewish) Groups Fear Public Backlash Over Iran

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=69107

On 13 Mar 2007 02:20:24 -0700, NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com wrote:

>Cheney to AIPAC: Early Iraq pullout would be disasterous for Israel

>

Once again Arther (remember when you posted under the name

"Arther Miller" years ago, and I challenged you to actually respond to

a response, and you had someone post a fake one you could respond to?

Yeah, I didn't forget you Mr. National Alliance), you're missing the

point.

In case you're still missing it, that's Cheney trying to sell

the Israelis on the war. Will you now change your name to

"NOMOREWAR_FORBIGOIL@FinallyGettingIt.com"?

>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/836374.html

>

>U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney addressing the annual AIPAC conference

>in Washington D.C. on Sunday. (Reuters)

>

>Last update - 03:03 13/03/2007

>

>Livni to AIPAC: U.S. can't show weakness on Iraq, Iran

>

>By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent, and The Associated Press

>

>WASHINGTON, D.C. - Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said Monday warned the

>U.S. not to show weakness in Iraq, during an address to the American

>Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington, D.C.

>

>In a region where "impressions are important," said Livni, countries

>must be careful not to demonstrate weakness and surrender to

>extremists.

>

>"If we appease the extremists - if they feel that we are backing down

>- they will sense victory and become more dangerous not only to the

>region, but to the world," she said. "This applies to the decisions

>made on Iran, it is true for Iraq, and it is true across the Middle

>East."

>

>The comments could be construed as expressing support for the Bush

>administration's policy of toughing out a war that is increasingly

>unpopular domestically.

>

>Livni said Iran was at the forefront of extremist threats to Israel,

>the greater Middle East and the world in general because of its

>nuclear ambitions.

>

>"To address extremism is to address Iran," she said, urging tougher UN

>sanctions over its nuclear program. "It is a regime which denies the

>Holocaust while threatening the world with a new one."

>

>"To those states who know the threat but still hesitate because of

>narrow economic or political interests, let me say this: History will

>remember."

>

>Also addressing AIPAC, United States Vice President Dick Cheney said

>Monday that an early withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq would lead to

>disaster and chaos in the Middle East, with either Al-Qaida or Iran

>emerging dominant from a bloody sectarian battle.

>

>Cheney laid out a dire sequence of events - all dangerous to Israel -

>that could arise if critics of the war, particularly those in

>Congress, mandate troop withdrawals or limit funding.

>

>"A precipitous American withdrawal from Iraq would be a disaster for

>the United States and the entire Middle East," he said.

>

>"A sudden withdrawal of our coalition would dissipate much of the

>effort that's gone into fighting the global war on terror and result

>in chaos and mounting danger," he said.

>

>As Congress prepares to debate a Bush administration request for

>nearly $100 billion to fund operations in Iraq and Afghanistan for the

>rest of the year, Cheney predicted that rejection could lead to a

>major new surge in clashes between Shiite and Sunni Muslims.

>

>"Moderates would be crushed, Shiite extremists backed by Iran would be

>in an all-out war with Sunni extremists led by Al-Qaida and remnants

>of the old Saddam regime," he said.

>

>The scenario, Cheney said, could then lead Sunni governments, such as

>Saudi Arabia, to support their compatriots in Iraq and counter Iran's

>influence, causing an escalation in sectarian violence and widening

>the conflict into a regional war.

>

>If Sunni extremists prevailed, Al-Qaida and its allies could recreate

>the safe haven they lost in Afghanistan, except now with the oil

>wealth producing weapons of mass destruction and underwriting their

>terrorist designs, including their pledge to destroy Israel.

>

>"If Iran's allies prevailed, the regime in Tehran's own designs for

>the Middle East would be advanced and the threat to our friends in the

>region would only be magnified," Cheney said.

>

>The vice president took aim at congressional efforts to reduce funding

>for the Iraq war or impose timelines for withdrawing troops, saying

>anti-war lawmakers are undermining U.S. troops in Iraq while

>professing in public to support them.

>

>"When members of Congress pursue an anti-war strategy that's been

>called 'slow bleeding,' they are not supporting the troops, they are

>undermining them," he said. "Anyone can say they support the troops

>and we should take them at their word, but the proof will come when

>it's time to provide the money."

>

>Cheney noted that some war opponents are among those calling for

>tougher action against Iran for both its support of anti-U.S. forces

>in Iraq and its nuclear program that Washington alleges is a cover for

>atomic weapons development.

>

>"It is simply not consistent for anyone to demand aggressive action

>against the menace posed by the Iranian regime while at the same time

>acquiescing in a retreat from Iraq that would leave our worst enemies

>dramatically emboldened and Israel's best friend, the United States,

>dangerously weakened," Cheney said.

>

>"Either we are serious in fighting the war on terror or not."

>

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>Look how the JINSA/PNAC associated Cheney pushed US to attack Iraq for

>Israel:

>

>Bush is intent on painting allies and enemies in the Middle East as

>evil

>By Robert Fisk - 10 September 2002

>

>http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=332011

>

>Just as Americans are recovering from the harrowing television re-runs

>of the 11 September attacks, their President is going to launch the

>biggest reshaping of the Middle East since the British and French

>parcelled out the Arab lands after the 1914-18 war. When he addresses

>the United Nations on Thursday, George Bush will be threatening not

>only Iraq - which had absolutely nothing to do with the crimes against

>humanity in New York and Washington - but Syria, Iran and, by

>extension, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

>

>The Syrian Accountability Act, which accuses Damascus of supporting

>"terrorism", will come into force as President Bush is speaking and

>will follow only days after the State Department branded the Lebanese

>Hizbollah as the "A-team of terrorism", more dangerous even than Osama

>bin Laden's al-Qa'ida. Like Iraq, the Hizbollah had nothing to do with

>the 11 September attacks - indeed, they were among the first to

>condemn them - but the White House now seems set on painting allies

>and enemies alike in the Middle East as a focus of evil.

>

>Only The Nation among all of America's newspapers and magazines has

>dared to point out that a large number of former Israeli lobbyists are

>now working within the American administration and the Bush plans for

>the Middle East - which could cause a massive political upheaval in

>the Arab world - fit perfectly into Israel's own dreams for the

>region. The magazine listed Vice-President Dick Cheney - the arch-hawk

>in the US administration - and John Bolton, now under-secretary of

>state for Arms Control, with Douglas Feith, the third most senior

>executive at the Pentagon, as members of the advisory board of the pro-

>Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (Jinsa) before

>joining the Bush government. Richard Perle, chairman of the Pentagon's

>Defence Policy Board, is still an adviser on the institute, as is the

>former CIA director James Woolsey.

>

>Michael Ledeen, described by The Nation as "one of the most

>influential 'Jinsans' in Washington" has been calling for "total war"

>against "terror" - with "regime change" for Syria, Iran, Iraq, Saudi

>Arabia and the Palestinian Authority. Mr Perle advises the Defence

>Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld - who refers to the West Bank and Gaza as

>"the so-called occupied territories" - and arranged the anti-Saudi

>"kernel of evil" briefing by Laurent Murawiec that so outraged the

>Saudi royal family last month. The Saudi regime may itself be in great

>danger as the princes of the House of Saud attempt to seize more power

>for themselves in advance of the depart-ure of the dying King Fahd.

>

>Jinsa's website says it exists to "inform the American defence and

>foreign affairs community about the important role Israel can and does

>play in bolstering democratic interests in the Mediterranean and the

>Middle East". Next month, Michael Rubin of the right-wing and pro-

>Israeli American Enterprise Institute - who referred to the outgoing

>UN human rights commissioner Mary Robinson as an abettor of

>"terrorism" - joins the US Defence Department as an Iran-Iraq

>"expert".

>

>According to The Nation, Irving Moskovitz, the California bingo

>magnate who has funded settlements in the Israeli-occupied

>territories, is a donor as well as a director of Jinsa.

>

>President Bush, of course, will not be talking about the influence of

>these pro-Israeli lobbyists when he presents his vision of the Middle

>East at the United Nations on Thursday.

>

>Nor will he give the slightest indication that the region is, in the

>words of its own kings and dictators, a powder keg of resentment and

>anger. The tectonic plates of the Arab world are now grinding with

>increasing violence. Into this political earthquake zone, Mr Bush now

>seems intent on leading his country, with his loyal British ally.

>

>Most of today's Arab nations were fashioned out of the ruins of the

>Ottoman Empire by Britain and France in the aftermath of the First

>World War - and Palestinians still blame Britain today for supporting

>the formation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

>

>Both European nations stationed tens of thousands of troops across the

>region, suppressing Arab revolts in Palestine, Syria and Lebanon -

>itself created by the French at the request of its Christian Maronite

>community. The whole colonial framework led to the loss of tens of

>thousands of lives before both the British and French retreated from

>the Middle East.

>

>Now President Bush seems set on following the colonial powers into the

>region for another military and political adventure - ostensibly to

>spread "democracy" among those nations it most despises (Iraq,

>Palestine and Iran) but in fact more likely to increase American

>control of an increasingly anti-Western Arab world.

>

>The Arabs themselves warn that this will lead to massive instability

>and widespread violence. The Israelis - and their allies in the US

>administration - are hell bent on the whole shebang.

>

>http://www.robert-fisk.com

>

>Fisk saw the following 'Men from JINSA and CSP' article from 'The

>Nation' and referred to it in the above piece:

>

>

>Men from JINSA and CSP:

>

>http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020902/vest

>

>Pro-Israel lobby (AIPAC, JINSA, etc.) pushed for US to attack Iraq for

>Israel like the fifth columnist traitors to America are currently

>doing with Iran (how many more Americans will continue to die/get

>horribly maimed for Israel like they currently are in Iraq - no wonder

>traitorous Jews have been kicked out of countries over the

>generations):

>

>

>

>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=49800

>

>

>AIPAC and the Neocon (War for Israel) agenda:

>

>

>

>Israel's influence of US policy & the Israeli lobby:

>

>

>

>

>"AIPAC is pushing us to war with Iran. AIPAC is the reason that no

>Democrats are coming out strongly against war with Iran. AIPAC's

>funding is extremely wealthy American Jews and AIPAC is pushing for

>war with Iran. So, when people go to Democratic politicians and they

>say "listen, I don't want you gettin' out in front and opposing war

>with Iran, particularly since you have national aspirations," they

>don't say it in the New York Times." - Eric Alterman

>

>

>

>

>Even Colin Powell conveyed in Karen DeYoung's new bio book about him

>that the 'JINSA crowd' was/is control of the Pentagon:

>

>A War for Israel? Colin Powell seems to think so:

>

>http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=61128

>

>(Jewish) Groups Fear Public Backlash Over Iran

>

>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=69107