jokersarewild Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060521/NEWS05/605210647/1007/NEWS This dude is a fucking freak! He should be shot...with bean bags...in the balls...until he dies from shock. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Hey Vortex! You know this guy? Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Its disturbing how often people like this are so religious... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Hey Vortex! You know this guy? I dont even find that remotely funny..... 1 Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I really can't get my head around people like this. WTF is there damn problem? They know its wrong and yet they still do it. Don't they know it fucks the child up for life and often leads them to becoming abusers themselves? It makes me wonder about the whole soul argument and if there are people who are born without on? Just another reason why humanity has run it course and should be removed, we as a race have failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriAllen Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 These are the kind of criminals that scare me. They have a mental illness. It is not something that can be changed through incarceration or any other kinds of legal punishment. They will never be rehabilitated, and they should never be released. No amount of social integration training will help them function in society and it is not safe to allow them to walk freely among us. What a waste of human life. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I dont even find that remotely funny..... Sorry, guy! I was REAL stoned last night and this seemed funny at the time... I now see how stupid it is! Give me some bad rep, I deserve it! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 These are the kind of criminals that scare me. They have a mental illness. It is not something that can be changed through incarceration or any other kinds of legal punishment. They will never be rehabilitated, and they should never be released. No amount of social integration training will help them function in society and it is not safe to allow them to walk freely among us. What a waste of human life. I whole heartedly agree...and unfortunately they don't all look as scary as Hugo so we would be forewarned about what too expect. sorry I just couldn't resist beating that dead horse again re: Hugo. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 These are the kind of criminals that scare me. They have a mental illness. It is not something that can be changed through incarceration or any other kinds of legal punishment. They will never be rehabilitated, and they should never be released. No amount of social integration training will help them function in society and it is not safe to allow them to walk freely among us. What a waste of human life. There is one cure for a pedophile and that is physical Castration, in the case of a male, you chops his balls of and put them in some alcohol for him to take home. In the case of a female pedophile you remove her clit and labia, and put them in some alcohol for her to take home. This is the only cure, my dad has working in the mental health field for 39+ years and you cannot reform them, they don't think they're sick, they think they're normal and we are the ones who are sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 There is one cure for a pedophile and that is physical Castration, in the case of a male, you chops his balls of and put them in some alcohol for him to take home. In the case of a female pedophile you remove her clit and labia, and put them in some alcohol for her to take home. This is the only cure, my dad has working in the mental health field for 39+ years and you cannot reform them, they don't think they're sick, they think they're normal and we are the ones who are sick. Wrong. Removing testes (castration) does not remove desire, nor does it stop the castratee from gaining and maintaining an erection. Removing a woman's clitoris likewise does not remove the desire for sex. Why remove the labia? They're just folds of protective skin. Sex offenders, not just paedaophiles, prey on people for psychological reasons. Mostly power trips, sometimes revenge attacks for what they have had happen to them. The mental illness is rarely about orgasm. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Wrong. Removing testes (castration) does not remove desire, nor does it stop the castratee from gaining and maintaining an erection. Removing a woman's clitoris likewise does not remove the desire for sex. Why remove the labia? They're just folds of protective skin. Sex offenders, not just paedaophiles, prey on people for psychological reasons. Mostly power trips, sometimes revenge attacks for what they have had happen to them. The mental illness is rarely about orgasm. I agree, even eunuchs were used as sex slaves because they could maintain a longer erection BECAUSE of being castrated. Some people just need to be put out of their misery, simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 oh, and also because eunuchs couldn't impregnate a woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Wrong. Removing testes (castration) does not remove desire, nor does it stop the castratee from gaining and maintaining an erection. Removing a woman's clitoris likewise does not remove the desire for sex. Why remove the labia? They're just folds of protective skin. Sex offenders, not just paedaophiles, prey on people for psychological reasons. Mostly power trips, sometimes revenge attacks for what they have had happen to them. The mental illness is rarely about orgasm. I hate to say it but I have heard this argument again and again, I agree with parts and strongly disagree with others. As to a man being able to get an erection with no nuts, I think you need to read up on the physical mechanics of human anatomy, once the balls have been removed a male cannot get an erection, because a male requires testosterone to do so and no nuts equals no testosterone, chemical castration does just this by lowering the testosterone in the testes, so no hard on. The human genitalia are directly linked to sexual desire, yes the brain is also involved, but in case of physical castration tests have shown the part of the brain responsible for sexual desire shuts down in time, thus removing the sexual desire. Yes I do agree sex offenders are more involved in the act of domination and the sexual act is almost secondary, and yes most sex offenders have also been abused, thus completing the cycle. But did you know most serial killers cum while killing, Ten Bunby said the act of killing was better that sex and his desire to kill was sexual in nature. I do agree sex offenders are mentally ill, be it a child abuser, rapist, animal fucker or any other sick arse sexual act out there. However most refuse to be treated and most of those who are treated re-offend. Why? Because it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I agree, even eunuchs were used as sex slaves because they could maintain a longer erection BECAUSE of being castrated. Some people just need to be put out of their misery, simple as that. Sorry but this a fable, nothing more, pure bullshit. The eunuchs were used as body guards and go betweens between the harem and court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Sorry but this a fable' date=' nothing more, pure bullshit. The eunuchs were used as body guards and go betweens between the harem and court.[/quote'] Sorry sweety, YOU are mistaken, do some research. Here's a simple, sloppy search: http://www.eros-la.com/articles/2005-06-07/trivia0607/-"What culture's ladies enjoyed having sex slaves? Castration was not just reserved for those defeated in battle. Living castrati (eunuchs) were also in great demand. The Romans enjoyed the services of spadones: men who had their testicles removed but retained the penis. A Roman woman's prestige was enhanced by the number of these soft, beardless sex slaves who attended to her every whim. A spado enabled the ladies to copulate all they wanted without the fear of pregnancy." http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/castration/eunuch/-"But dirty old men were not alone in their appetites for eunuchs. Many rich women preferred the hard shafts of those ox-like men castrated after puberty. If still able to achieve an erection, such a eunuch could pleasure the mistress without impregnating her. And being the slave, it was his job to satisfy her (while in the marriage bed it was the woman who was the utility)." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuchs-"According to Tom Burnam's Dictionary of Misinformation, a common misconception about eunuchs is that, since they were castrated, they were either unable or unwanting to defile or perform sexual intercourse with the women in the harem they were employed to watch over. This was not always true, however. Though they would be expected to have a lower sex drive, eunuchs could often achieve an erection and engage in coitus, though no pregnancy could result. According to Burnham, some women preferred eunuchs as lovers since they never ejaculated and could, therefore, maintain erections longer." http://gendertree.com/Eunuch.htm-Clement of Alexandria warned Christians against the evils of eunuch servants being placed in charge of women, because they will act as pimps for the women, and moreover, "the true eunuch is not unable, but [merely?] unwilling to have sex." In other words, the women might get the eunuchs to sleep with them, as seen in Juvenal and Martial and at the beginning of the Arabian Nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 etc., etc...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriAllen Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 There is one cure for a pedophile and that is physical Castration, in the case of a male, you chops his balls of and put them in some alcohol for him to take home. In the case of a female pedophile you remove her clit and labia, and put them in some alcohol for her to take home. This is the only cure, my dad has working in the mental health field for 39+ years and you cannot reform them, they don't think they're sick, they think they're normal and we are the ones who are sick. I Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Chi 1, Quarky 0 Before Chi's head swells up she needs to know that Quarky once lost a debate against a retarded eggplant. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I 1 Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToriAllen Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 As to a man being able to get an erection with no nuts' date=' I think you need to read up on the physical mechanics of human anatomy, once the balls have been removed a male cannot get an erection, because a male requires testosterone to do so and no nuts equals no testosterone, chemical castration does just this by lowering the testosterone in the testes, so no hard on. [/quote'] All of the evidence that is used to support the legal argument in favor of chemical or physical castration comes from studies done on animals. Animals are much more hormone dependant than humans. Castration is unpredictable. Many men continue to have sex for years after castration. Desire may be reduced but it is not eraticated and there is not loss in ability to preform sex acts, which by the way, include much more than just intercourse. You really should get out more. The human genitalia are directly linked to sexual desire' date=' yes the brain is also involved, but in case of physical castration tests have shown the part of the brain responsible for sexual desire shuts down in time, thus removing the sexual desire. [/quote'] The part of the brain responsible for sexual desire does not shut down upon castration. Sexual desire and aggressive behaviors are reduces in some people. Again the effect is unpredictable. Yes I do agree sex offenders are more involved in the act of domination and the sexual act is almost secondary' date=' and yes most sex offenders have also been abused, thus completing the cycle. But did you know most serial killers cum while killing, Ten Bunby said the act of killing was better that sex and his desire to kill was sexual in nature. [/quote'] It is the power and control that gets them off, not the sex act itself, which I believe was Builders point. I do agree sex offenders are mentally ill' date=' be it a child abuser, rapist, animal fucker or any other sick arse sexual act out there. However most refuse to be treated and most of those who are treated re-offend. Why? [/quote'] Because some idiot released them… Because it’s what they are! Most serial killers start out as rapists and it’s a natural if not perverse progression from abuser to killer. Yes, they are ill and need to be locked away. In the case of the pedophile' date=' they see children as a sexual being, not as a child, but as one adult does another. Most of them truly believe the child wants what happens to them and most of them go to great pains to become close to the children and families they’re stalking, they truly feel they are doing the right thing by the child and yes there main goal is to have sex with the child, so your last point about it not being about orgasm is miss informed. Most people refuse to believe the abusers wants to fuck there little baby, but I hate to say it they do. [/quote'] So, what? Castration will change this line of thinking? No. It won’t. That is why it will not work. The way they view children is not the same way a healthy adult views another adult. Healthy adults to not rape those they find attractive and claim the other party wanted it. That is what a sex offender does. Pedophiles are predators by nature; they’re ruled by a miss directed sexual desire and are untreatable. It is more than just misdirected sexual desire. There are many men I have sexually desired in my lifetime and I do not remember trying to force any of them to have sex with me. I never tried to get them alone so I could touch their privates, and I have never strangled any of them. You can not honestly think this is all about sexual desire. There are other behavioral and mental problems involved besides hormones. There are only a limited number of things you can do with them' date=' kill them, lock them up for life, or physical castration. In the few cases where physical castration has occurred the offender has never re-offended. [/quote'] There are only three cases that I know about involving sex offenders being physically castrated and released. The truth is the procedure has not been preformed on enough people to not what the recidivism rate is. It would be extremely careless to perform this procedure under the assumption that it will work and then release them back out into society. There are many more cases involving chemical castration and psychotherapy. Out of these cases fifteen percent re-offend (that they know of). That is a decrease, but it is still fifteen percent too many. Castration has no effect at all if the offender gets a hold of testosterone pills, which seem to be all the rage now among middle aged men. These pills are a dime a dozen. Also in the case of female castration' date=' removal of the clit and labia removes most physical pleasure from sex and intercourse, again this is a proven medical fact. [/quote'] This one made me laugh. Female castration involves the removal of the ovaries, not the clit and labia. You are offering to separate solutions. To remove physical pleasure the clit and labia on a female and the penis on a male should be removed. To remove sex hormones the ovaries on a female and the testis on a male should be removed. Personally, I this all sex offenders should be castrated, but only to help with reduction of aggressive tendencies and make them easier to deal with in the facility they are locked away in. Quote Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Chi 1, Quarky 0 Before Chi's head swells up she needs to know that Quarky once lost a debate against a retarded eggplant. Go crawl back into that dark hole called your mummies anus, or are you to busy blowing your best friend. Everything you say is nothing more than a petty little child trying to bolster there own small idear and half arse ideology, at the expense of others. Also to the debate I so called lost with you (eggplant), I was playing you for the goddamn fucking idiot you are. The problem with you Hogo a go go is that you are so damn stupid to think your smart, retard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Sorry, guy! I was REAL stoned last night and this seemed funny at the time... I now see how stupid it is! Give me some bad rep, I deserve it! Normally I would give bad rep for a comment like that...but since i like and respect you...i just decided to make you feel the guilt that was deserved I knew you were trying to be funny...it just wasnt....bad rep is reserved, IMO, for those that are heartless...gutless...and downright morons! and you are none of those no worries..just needed to at least say it.... Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 (Idiotic babbling.) Not sure what to do with that boy. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 (being a fucking retard as per usual.) The above line sums up Hugo as per usual, what's changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarky1.0 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Now back to the point at hand, name called and payout with standing hehe. I think we can all agree these sick in human monsters that prey on our children and abuse them, need to be dealt with; no one can say other wise. I for one, know they cannot be treated or rehabilitated, for a number of reasons. Firstly its in there nature, they can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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