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Mulit-millionaire JOHN HAGEE DEMANDS WAR \with IRAN IN THE NAME OF
EVANGELICALS!
(He is also a member of the Elites, which are Satanic (for real) and he is a
CFR member along with that and in the pocket of Israel. [How can these
"Christians" belong to the CNP and the CFR and secret societies all of which
are dedicated to wealth and power. The Christian leaders of today live in
multimillion dollar homes, have questionable financial dealings in other
countries and extort money from the well meaning people who watch their
television programs. I think they're just thugs with good acting skills. ]
Critics say Hagee's compensation too high
http://www.rickross.com/reference/tv_preachers/tv_preachers7.html
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Hagee, Israel backers push a get-tough policy: Immediate attack on Iran
demanded.
July 22, 2007
by Abe Levy
Express-News
WASHINGTON - Inside a reserved Senate room, several hundred evangelical
activists who came by plane and bus Wednesday waited for the arrival of
Texas' two senators.
As their leader, Pastor John Hagee, entered the room, they erupted in
cheers, snapping photos of the face of modern Christian Zionism, a movement
that promotes Israel as a biblical mandate.
The room turned silent as Hagee greeted Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison and John
Cornyn near the stage. Hagee looked the senators in the eye and said: "These
people are from Texas - and they are voters."
That message came through loud and clear last week as Hagee and 4,500
like-minded Christians visited the Capitol to lobby for Israel and a
get-tough policy against Iran. Motivating them is their belief that Israel's
fate is tied to that of the free world.
"We didn't come to Washington to figure out what Washington thinks," Hagee
said. "We came to Washington to express our views, and we came as people.
People hold the power in America."
Pastor of the 18,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio and a
world-reknowned TV evangelist, Hagee organized the lobbying blitz (the
second in two years) to try to exert political power in Middle East policy,
including consideration of a pre-emptive strike on Iran.
He founded a non-profit organization, Christians United for Israel, 18
months ago, to give a louder voice to Christian Zionists, who are among the
60 million to 100 million evangelicals in the U.S. Many of them believe they
are living in the final days described in prophetic books of the Bible and
that standing with Israel assures them of being on God's side when it is all
said and done.
Known for his fiery apocalyptic sermons and books, such as "Jerusalem
Countdown," Hagee, 67, is no stranger to conservative Republican politics
and mobilizing Christians to vote.
Last week, along with the visit to Congress, CUFI conducted a three-day
summit for 4,500 delegates that included seminars on the evils of militant
Islamic groups, lessons on effective lobbying, the showing of pro-Israel
documentaries, banquets for donors and its signature event, Night to Honor
Israel, which was broadcast on Israeli TV.
The ceremony drew nearly 5,000 participants inside the Washington Convention
Center and 15 protesters outside.
The dissenters, part of "Project Straight Gate," based in Phoenix, held
signs that read "Hagee's apostacy kills Palestinians" and "Blessed are the
peacemakers." The group, representing six states, started five years ago to
counter the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
To them, Hagee is the next Rev. Jerry Falwell, who they say misrepresented
Christian faith through his political activities.
"The whole Christian Zionism movement is causing Christianity to be a
laughing stock all over the world," said Charles Carlson, the group's
founder and director. "It's bringing (Hagee) fame and fortune by putting
Israel on the throne right beside Christ."
Inside the convention center, high-profile Israeli and U.S. government
leaders revved up the audience with impassioned speeches by, among others,
former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay
also attended.
At a banquet for $1,000-plus donors the night before, Sen. Joe Lieberman, a
Connecticut independent and practicing Jew, praised CUFI and likened Hagee
to Moses as a "leader of a multitude."
"The support of Christian Zionists is critical to Israel's security and
strength," he said, "and to America's security and strength."
The average delegate found in the seminars the material they would need for
lobbying and later grassroots activism. Panelists, both Jewish and
Christian, promoted the use of alternative fuels as a way to wean America
from Arab oil and deeper study of pro-Israel arguments to clarify biased
media reports, win converts in their neighborhoods and vote pro-Israel
candidates into office. There was particular emphasis on one core belief
that Israel must not give up any land to Palestinians for peace, a view that
comes from the Bible and history.
They also detailed the threat of militant Islamic groups who incite children
to hate Jews and teach that being suicide bombers would give them the glory
of martyrdom.
"It is a sick philosophy that goes by many names, but I haven't found a
better name for this than islamofascism," Gary Bauer, a former presidential
candidate who served in the Reagan administration and current CUFI board
member, said during a workshop.
Pressing their points
Armed with talking points, CUFI delegates brought their message to a
Congress largely in agreement, given that Israel was created by the United
Nations in the aftermath of the Holocaust.
They reported meeting with 279 lawmakers, including 57 senators, and
according to CUFI leaders, were generally well received.
Still, the suggestion of threatening Iran with a pre-emptive strike before
exhausting diplomacy and the dismissal of a two-state solution in the Holy
Land were not met with support from all lawmakers.
Some were skeptical that an American public growing weary of the U.S.
presence in Iraq could stomach an attack on Iran. They would rather try to
persuade other powerful nations in Europe and Asia to end trade with Iran
and enact other economic and diplomatic sanctions.
"I've found that diplomacy sure does a lot of good," said Senate Majority
Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, who didn't meet with CUFI members but was asked
about them while en route to the Senate chambers. "Ronald Reagan proved that
in the Cold War. He sent emissaries to the Soviet Union. We can never take
the military option off the table as a world power, but we need to exhaust
all diplomatic ways first."
Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., made time to meet briefly with 85 CUFI members who
waited for him on the Capitol steps. State directors Mike and Jean Ann
McNally stuck to four talking points as instructed during CUFI workshops:
opposition to a two-state solution, support for sanctions on Iran, a U.N.
crackdown on the terrorist group Hezbollah and continuing and increasing the
$2.4 billion in yearly U.S. aid to Israel.
"One of their great strengths is their succinct message," Corker said after
the visit, noting he took a first-ever trip to Israel during his election
campaign last year. "The clarity of that message has endeared them to many
people."
Several CUFI members lingered after the visit, holding hands in a circle and
whispering prayers.
"We know we'll get blessed because we're blessing Israel," said Jean Ann
McNally, the co-state director for Tennessee. "We're not here to lose."
In contrast, fundamental disagreements emerged during his meeting with seven
CUFI members, said Bill Harper, chief of staff for Congresswoman Betty
McCollum, D-St. Paul.
McCollum earlier this year was invited to attend a Night to Honor Israel in
her home state. She declined in an April 25 letter, citing "repugnant"
publicized statements by Hagee, including his calling Hurricane Katrina
God's judgment on a sinful city and saying those who live by the Koran have
a mandate to kill Christians and Jews.
After the meeting, Harper said he couldn't agree with CUFI's assertion that
a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians would hurt progress in
the Middle East.
He pointed to Israel's freeing of 250 Palestinian prisoners Friday and
Bush's release of a multimillion-dollar aid package for the Palestinian
Authority Cabinet.
"This is really frankly a radical leadership," Harper said of CUFI. "They
are dangerous to any prospects of ending the conflict between Israelis and
Palestinians."
Texas' two Republican senators were more welcoming of CUFI's message.
"I think this is a group that gets it from the standpoint of the threat to
not only our nation but also to the Iraqis and Afghans and to Israel," said
Cornyn. "And that is the threat of Islamic extremism that justifies the
murder of innocent civilians in pursuit of its ideological agenda."
Hutchison described CUFI as the Christian equivalent to the Jewish lobbying
group AIPAC, and credible.
But she parts company with it over, for example, her preference for a
two-state solution to bring "long-standing peace and economic development."
Challenges ahead
Hagee's meeting with Texas lawmakers was one of the few public appearances
he made during the week. Instead, during 12-hour, tightly scheduled days, he
was immersed in private CUFI strategy meetings with pastors and lawmakers.
CUFI claims about 50,000 members from churches representing 2 million people
and has directors in each state and representatives in 10 countries.
Even with Congress' strong pro-Israel leanings, Hagee and CUFI have to gain
traction at a time when one presidency is nearing an end and the next is a
big unknown.
As CUFI met in Washington last week, President Bush, who banked on the same
evangelical base as CUFI's, announced plans to pursue a two-state solution
for the Holy Land.
Also last week, the State Department appeared headed to diplomatic talks
with Iran to discuss charges that it is arming Iraqi militias. Such a move
runs contrary to one of CUFI's strongest convictions - that Iran's pursuit
of nuclear capabilities by its president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is part of a
ploy to wipe out Israel and establish an Islamic world order.
Hagee also has to convince an increasingly fragmented evangelical community
that Israel should be its top agenda item, despite competing issues such as
global warming, poverty, abortion and homosexuality.
Perhaps one of Hagee's biggest hurdles will be his status as a controversial
end-time theologian who, with great certainty, purports to understand future
events based on his reading of the Book of Revelation and Old Testament
prophecies.
Israel, he says, will come under attack from Arab enemies led by the
Antichrist, pitting the forces of good and evil in the Battle of Armageddon.
The Jews in Israel will be killed, except for 144,000 who are spared and
foretold to convert to the Christian faith before Jesus' return.
Somewhat tongue-in-cheek, Jewish leaders with CUFI have said the only
difference between them and their Christian counterparts is whether the
Messiah's future arrival will be his first or second time on Earth.
This end-time theology was intentionally left out of the CUFI trip last week
and in all other related events, Hagee said.
"We come here and make it very clear that end-time theology has absolutely
nothing to do with our support for Israel," he said. "We're supporting
Israel because Israel is threatened like no other time in all of her
history."
But for others, his end-time views cause them to question his motives,
especially since he's outspoken about his desire to affect U.S. foreign
policy.
"As a Christian, I continue to be concerned about this militant crusader
projected into the world that's categorically the opposite of the message of
Jesus as I understand it," said Don Wagner, a founder of the Institute for
the Study of Christian Zionism.
This issue deeply divides Jews, some of whom, while they praise Hagee's work
to eradicate anti-Semitism, see him as using them as pawns to fulfill
Christian prophecy, including the annihilation of most Jews.
David Brog, CUFI's executive director and a practicing Jew, said Christian
Zionists are not motivated by end-time prophecy, despite their belief in it.
Instead, Brog said, Jews who partner with CUFI are recognizing their shared
dedication to moral lifestyles, the same sacred texts and the same God and a
common goal of peace by combating the modern threat of global terrorism.
"If (Hagee) wanted a war, then he'd want to let Iran get the bombs," he
said. "I think (Hagee's critics) are misunderstanding Christian theology.
God has no set time for the Second Coming. And there's nothing you or I can
do about it."
Comment: These creatures are giving lunatics a bad name. The world would be
much better off if we cut off all support for both Israel and the Arabs and
let them slaughter each other. Now, we have to put up with senile religious
people ranting in Our Sacred Capitol when they would be better off drowning,
slowly, in a septic tank.. I doubt if there was a First Coming and the
Second has been in train for two thousand years without noticeable results
Like the early Zionists, now the Arabs are chanting, "Next year in
Jerusalem!" BH
EVANGELICALS!
(He is also a member of the Elites, which are Satanic (for real) and he is a
CFR member along with that and in the pocket of Israel. [How can these
"Christians" belong to the CNP and the CFR and secret societies all of which
are dedicated to wealth and power. The Christian leaders of today live in
multimillion dollar homes, have questionable financial dealings in other
countries and extort money from the well meaning people who watch their
television programs. I think they're just thugs with good acting skills. ]
Critics say Hagee's compensation too high
http://www.rickross.com/reference/tv_preachers/tv_preachers7.html
-------------------------
Hagee, Israel backers push a get-tough policy: Immediate attack on Iran
demanded.
July 22, 2007
by Abe Levy
Express-News
WASHINGTON - Inside a reserved Senate room, several hundred evangelical
activists who came by plane and bus Wednesday waited for the arrival of
Texas' two senators.
As their leader, Pastor John Hagee, entered the room, they erupted in
cheers, snapping photos of the face of modern Christian Zionism, a movement
that promotes Israel as a biblical mandate.
The room turned silent as Hagee greeted Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison and John
Cornyn near the stage. Hagee looked the senators in the eye and said: "These
people are from Texas - and they are voters."
That message came through loud and clear last week as Hagee and 4,500
like-minded Christians visited the Capitol to lobby for Israel and a
get-tough policy against Iran. Motivating them is their belief that Israel's
fate is tied to that of the free world.
"We didn't come to Washington to figure out what Washington thinks," Hagee
said. "We came to Washington to express our views, and we came as people.
People hold the power in America."
Pastor of the 18,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio and a
world-reknowned TV evangelist, Hagee organized the lobbying blitz (the
second in two years) to try to exert political power in Middle East policy,
including consideration of a pre-emptive strike on Iran.
He founded a non-profit organization, Christians United for Israel, 18
months ago, to give a louder voice to Christian Zionists, who are among the
60 million to 100 million evangelicals in the U.S. Many of them believe they
are living in the final days described in prophetic books of the Bible and
that standing with Israel assures them of being on God's side when it is all
said and done.
Known for his fiery apocalyptic sermons and books, such as "Jerusalem
Countdown," Hagee, 67, is no stranger to conservative Republican politics
and mobilizing Christians to vote.
Last week, along with the visit to Congress, CUFI conducted a three-day
summit for 4,500 delegates that included seminars on the evils of militant
Islamic groups, lessons on effective lobbying, the showing of pro-Israel
documentaries, banquets for donors and its signature event, Night to Honor
Israel, which was broadcast on Israeli TV.
The ceremony drew nearly 5,000 participants inside the Washington Convention
Center and 15 protesters outside.
The dissenters, part of "Project Straight Gate," based in Phoenix, held
signs that read "Hagee's apostacy kills Palestinians" and "Blessed are the
peacemakers." The group, representing six states, started five years ago to
counter the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
To them, Hagee is the next Rev. Jerry Falwell, who they say misrepresented
Christian faith through his political activities.
"The whole Christian Zionism movement is causing Christianity to be a
laughing stock all over the world," said Charles Carlson, the group's
founder and director. "It's bringing (Hagee) fame and fortune by putting
Israel on the throne right beside Christ."
Inside the convention center, high-profile Israeli and U.S. government
leaders revved up the audience with impassioned speeches by, among others,
former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay
also attended.
At a banquet for $1,000-plus donors the night before, Sen. Joe Lieberman, a
Connecticut independent and practicing Jew, praised CUFI and likened Hagee
to Moses as a "leader of a multitude."
"The support of Christian Zionists is critical to Israel's security and
strength," he said, "and to America's security and strength."
The average delegate found in the seminars the material they would need for
lobbying and later grassroots activism. Panelists, both Jewish and
Christian, promoted the use of alternative fuels as a way to wean America
from Arab oil and deeper study of pro-Israel arguments to clarify biased
media reports, win converts in their neighborhoods and vote pro-Israel
candidates into office. There was particular emphasis on one core belief
that Israel must not give up any land to Palestinians for peace, a view that
comes from the Bible and history.
They also detailed the threat of militant Islamic groups who incite children
to hate Jews and teach that being suicide bombers would give them the glory
of martyrdom.
"It is a sick philosophy that goes by many names, but I haven't found a
better name for this than islamofascism," Gary Bauer, a former presidential
candidate who served in the Reagan administration and current CUFI board
member, said during a workshop.
Pressing their points
Armed with talking points, CUFI delegates brought their message to a
Congress largely in agreement, given that Israel was created by the United
Nations in the aftermath of the Holocaust.
They reported meeting with 279 lawmakers, including 57 senators, and
according to CUFI leaders, were generally well received.
Still, the suggestion of threatening Iran with a pre-emptive strike before
exhausting diplomacy and the dismissal of a two-state solution in the Holy
Land were not met with support from all lawmakers.
Some were skeptical that an American public growing weary of the U.S.
presence in Iraq could stomach an attack on Iran. They would rather try to
persuade other powerful nations in Europe and Asia to end trade with Iran
and enact other economic and diplomatic sanctions.
"I've found that diplomacy sure does a lot of good," said Senate Majority
Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, who didn't meet with CUFI members but was asked
about them while en route to the Senate chambers. "Ronald Reagan proved that
in the Cold War. He sent emissaries to the Soviet Union. We can never take
the military option off the table as a world power, but we need to exhaust
all diplomatic ways first."
Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., made time to meet briefly with 85 CUFI members who
waited for him on the Capitol steps. State directors Mike and Jean Ann
McNally stuck to four talking points as instructed during CUFI workshops:
opposition to a two-state solution, support for sanctions on Iran, a U.N.
crackdown on the terrorist group Hezbollah and continuing and increasing the
$2.4 billion in yearly U.S. aid to Israel.
"One of their great strengths is their succinct message," Corker said after
the visit, noting he took a first-ever trip to Israel during his election
campaign last year. "The clarity of that message has endeared them to many
people."
Several CUFI members lingered after the visit, holding hands in a circle and
whispering prayers.
"We know we'll get blessed because we're blessing Israel," said Jean Ann
McNally, the co-state director for Tennessee. "We're not here to lose."
In contrast, fundamental disagreements emerged during his meeting with seven
CUFI members, said Bill Harper, chief of staff for Congresswoman Betty
McCollum, D-St. Paul.
McCollum earlier this year was invited to attend a Night to Honor Israel in
her home state. She declined in an April 25 letter, citing "repugnant"
publicized statements by Hagee, including his calling Hurricane Katrina
God's judgment on a sinful city and saying those who live by the Koran have
a mandate to kill Christians and Jews.
After the meeting, Harper said he couldn't agree with CUFI's assertion that
a two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians would hurt progress in
the Middle East.
He pointed to Israel's freeing of 250 Palestinian prisoners Friday and
Bush's release of a multimillion-dollar aid package for the Palestinian
Authority Cabinet.
"This is really frankly a radical leadership," Harper said of CUFI. "They
are dangerous to any prospects of ending the conflict between Israelis and
Palestinians."
Texas' two Republican senators were more welcoming of CUFI's message.
"I think this is a group that gets it from the standpoint of the threat to
not only our nation but also to the Iraqis and Afghans and to Israel," said
Cornyn. "And that is the threat of Islamic extremism that justifies the
murder of innocent civilians in pursuit of its ideological agenda."
Hutchison described CUFI as the Christian equivalent to the Jewish lobbying
group AIPAC, and credible.
But she parts company with it over, for example, her preference for a
two-state solution to bring "long-standing peace and economic development."
Challenges ahead
Hagee's meeting with Texas lawmakers was one of the few public appearances
he made during the week. Instead, during 12-hour, tightly scheduled days, he
was immersed in private CUFI strategy meetings with pastors and lawmakers.
CUFI claims about 50,000 members from churches representing 2 million people
and has directors in each state and representatives in 10 countries.
Even with Congress' strong pro-Israel leanings, Hagee and CUFI have to gain
traction at a time when one presidency is nearing an end and the next is a
big unknown.
As CUFI met in Washington last week, President Bush, who banked on the same
evangelical base as CUFI's, announced plans to pursue a two-state solution
for the Holy Land.
Also last week, the State Department appeared headed to diplomatic talks
with Iran to discuss charges that it is arming Iraqi militias. Such a move
runs contrary to one of CUFI's strongest convictions - that Iran's pursuit
of nuclear capabilities by its president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is part of a
ploy to wipe out Israel and establish an Islamic world order.
Hagee also has to convince an increasingly fragmented evangelical community
that Israel should be its top agenda item, despite competing issues such as
global warming, poverty, abortion and homosexuality.
Perhaps one of Hagee's biggest hurdles will be his status as a controversial
end-time theologian who, with great certainty, purports to understand future
events based on his reading of the Book of Revelation and Old Testament
prophecies.
Israel, he says, will come under attack from Arab enemies led by the
Antichrist, pitting the forces of good and evil in the Battle of Armageddon.
The Jews in Israel will be killed, except for 144,000 who are spared and
foretold to convert to the Christian faith before Jesus' return.
Somewhat tongue-in-cheek, Jewish leaders with CUFI have said the only
difference between them and their Christian counterparts is whether the
Messiah's future arrival will be his first or second time on Earth.
This end-time theology was intentionally left out of the CUFI trip last week
and in all other related events, Hagee said.
"We come here and make it very clear that end-time theology has absolutely
nothing to do with our support for Israel," he said. "We're supporting
Israel because Israel is threatened like no other time in all of her
history."
But for others, his end-time views cause them to question his motives,
especially since he's outspoken about his desire to affect U.S. foreign
policy.
"As a Christian, I continue to be concerned about this militant crusader
projected into the world that's categorically the opposite of the message of
Jesus as I understand it," said Don Wagner, a founder of the Institute for
the Study of Christian Zionism.
This issue deeply divides Jews, some of whom, while they praise Hagee's work
to eradicate anti-Semitism, see him as using them as pawns to fulfill
Christian prophecy, including the annihilation of most Jews.
David Brog, CUFI's executive director and a practicing Jew, said Christian
Zionists are not motivated by end-time prophecy, despite their belief in it.
Instead, Brog said, Jews who partner with CUFI are recognizing their shared
dedication to moral lifestyles, the same sacred texts and the same God and a
common goal of peace by combating the modern threat of global terrorism.
"If (Hagee) wanted a war, then he'd want to let Iran get the bombs," he
said. "I think (Hagee's critics) are misunderstanding Christian theology.
God has no set time for the Second Coming. And there's nothing you or I can
do about it."
Comment: These creatures are giving lunatics a bad name. The world would be
much better off if we cut off all support for both Israel and the Arabs and
let them slaughter each other. Now, we have to put up with senile religious
people ranting in Our Sacred Capitol when they would be better off drowning,
slowly, in a septic tank.. I doubt if there was a First Coming and the
Second has been in train for two thousand years without noticeable results
Like the early Zionists, now the Arabs are chanting, "Next year in
Jerusalem!" BH