R
Raymond
Guest
Christians United for Israel: New Christian Zionism Lobby Hopes to
Rival AIPAC.
(A Real Con Job)
Bible Pounding Pastor John Hagee spearheads Christians United for
Israel
Why?
We take a look at a new recently established group called Christians
United for Israel-an evangelical organization that believes supporting
expansionist policies of the Israeli government is: "a biblical
imperative." We speak with investigative journalist Max Blumenthal who
reports they lobbied the Bush administration to adopt a
confrontational posture toward Iran, refuse aid to the Palestinians
and give Israel a free hand in its attack on Lebanon. [includes rush
transcript]
In March of this year, a study on the role of the Israel lobby in US
foreign policy caused an uproar in the academic community and in the
media. The paper's authors, Professor Stephen Walt of Harvard
University and John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago, argued
the pro-Israel lobby has unduly influenced the United States to set
aside its own security in order to advance the interests of Israel.
The study emphasized the activities of the pro-Israel lobby group the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC.
Well, there's another side of the pro-Israel lobby that's drawing
increasing attention--and some say its far more influential. A new
group was recently established called Christians United for Israel-
CUFI. They're an evangelical organization that believes supporting
expansionist policies of the Israeli government is: "a biblical
imperative." In a new article for The Nation, journalist Max
Blumenthal reports group members have held several meetings with White
House officials to talk about US policy in the Middle East. They've
apparently lobbied the administration to adopt a confrontational
posture toward Iran, refuse aid to the Palestinians and give Israel a
free hand in its attack on Lebanon.
We're going to speak with Max Blumenthal in a moment but first, we
hear from Christians United for Israel. Their inaugural event was held
last month in Washington, DC. More than 3,000 people were in
attendance to hear speeches from Israeli and American dignitaries.
Among the speakers was Kansas Republican Senator Sam Brownback.
SEN. SAM BROWNBACK: Thank you in your energy. Thank you in your
prayers. Thank you for standing with Israel in this difficult time. I
close with noting that the recently elected Prime Minister of Israel
addressed a joint session of Congress about a month or so ago. And he
spoke there, and I sat as I listened to him give an eloquent speech,
uniting speech, thinking to myself, the United States doesn't have a
closer partner in the world than Israel today. And it is true. And
it's important for us, when our friend is in difficulty, Israel, that
we stand by them in this difficult time. Thank you for being here. God
bless you all. God bless the United States of America. And God bless
the Israeli people.
The group's founder, Texas television evangelist, John Hagee, also
spoke.
JOHN HAGEE: We gather in Washington, D.C., tonight for one of the most
dramatic moments in the history of American Christiandom. We gather
here from every state in the nation. We gather here with more than
3,400 spiritual leaders. We gather for one purpose: to express our
solidarity with the state of Israel and the Jewish people, because
this historic event is being telecast across the nation and around the
world; because this telecast is being seen in Iran, where a new
Hitler, the President of Iran, threatens to annihilate Israel with a
nuclear holocaust, saying Israel should be wiped off the map and
saying, like it or not, the Zionist regime is headed toward total
annihilation, to be ended with a sudden storm; because the enemies of
Israel are doubtless watching this telecast and question our resolve
as Christians to stand with Israel until Islamofascism is totally
defeated; because this will be seen in Israel by a war-weary people
who at this very hour are once again fighting Hamas terrorists whose
covenant calls for the death of Jewish people and total destruction of
Israel; because God in heaven is watching and has commanded us, keep
not silent concerning Israel. Well, those of you in this audience who
stand in solidarity with Israel, until victory comes, stand and send a
message to the U.S. Congress, to the people of Israel, to the enemies
of Israel: We are with you. We stand with you. Israel, you are not
alone.
Max Blumenthal, who writes about Christians United for Israel in a new
piece for The Nation. He's a Puffin Foundation Writing Fellow at the
Nation Institute. He's based in Washington, D.C. His pieces have
appeared in The Nation, and Salon, American Prospect, Washington
Monthly. His piece is called "Birth Pangs of a New Christian Zionism."
MAX BLUMENTHAL: Christian Zionism has been a force within the
Christian right for over 20 years, and they've made--the Christian
Zionist movement, they've made themselves an asset to Israel by
sending millions in aid money to Israel. They're a major source of
Israeli tourism, especially during the Second Intifada. They were
perhaps the only source of tourism revenue for Israel, which is a key
source of revenue for the Israeli government. And on an individual
basis, leaders of the Christian Zionist movement have lobbied the
government, especially the Bush administration, which has had an open
door policy to them. But never before has there been an official
Washington lobbying organization for the Christian Zionist movement.
So now you have Christians United for Israel, which was founded in
February by John Hagee, who commands a mega-church in San Antonio with
18,000 members. He's a huge force in Texas politics, a close, personal
friend of Tom DeLay. And what this organization has done is they've
convened all of the major Christian Zionist mega-churches in the
country under one umbrella group, and they've hired a lobbyist. Hagee
has a lot of money through his congregation. And their lobbyist is a
guy named David Brog, who's the former chief of staff to Arlen
Specter, and he's Jewish, so this makes him a huge asset to this
organization, because he can beat back criticism from other Jewish
leaders that Christian Zionists harbor ulterior motives for supporting
Israel, that they have an Armageddon-based agenda for supporting
Israel.
And if you look at what John Hagee has written in his books, like
Jerusalem Countdown, his most recent book, which cites 17 unnamed
Israeli intelligence sources to claim that Iran is producing nuclear
suitcase bombs and that Israel must engage in a "nuclear showdown"
with Iran or risk committing national suicide, if you look at what
he's written, he does have an Armageddon-based agenda. And so I think
what this lobby does, it plays an instrumental PR role on behalf of
the Christian Zionist movement in preventing legitimate criticism of
their motives for supporting Israel, and they are bolstering what
AIPAC is doing and possibly even radicalizing what AIPAC is doing, by
providing them a grassroots base in the heartland.
The majority of America's 60 million evangelicals are premillenial
dispensationalists. They believe that the end times could come at any
moment, and they're looking for signs of that, so they're sympathetic
to supporting Israel for these reasons. And so they provide a strong
grassroots base. This is the Republican base. This is the only
component of the Republican base that still supports Bush's policies
in Iraq without question, unconditionally, and supports Israel's
expansionism. While the American Jewish community is willing to, you
know, stand for Israel and show solidarity for Israel, they also
support a peace process, and they support a sovereign Palestinian
state. But this group doesn't.
You know, for instance, Pat Robertson went on the 700 Club and said
that Ariel Sharon's descent into a comatose state was punishment for
dividing the land for the Gaza withdrawal, for pulling 9,000 extremist
settlers out of a huge swath of land. And, you know, then last week,
Pat Robertson was flown to Israel to pray with Ehud Olmert and go on
the 700 Club and tell his viewership that the Lebanese civilians, the
Lebanese society was harboring terrorists, and therefore, civilian
casualties were justified. So they play a PR role on behalf of the
extremist wing of Israeli political culture. They're very connected to
people like Benjamin Netanyahu, who's positioning himself to succeed
Ehud Olmert in the wake of Olmert's possibly imminent resignation. So
I think there's a real danger here...... Well, we know in the past
that Karl Rove and people in Karl Rove's shop, like Tim Goeglein and
Elliott Abrams, who's in the State Department, who's traveling, you
know, to Israel with Condoleezza Rice, have met with Christian Zionist
groups, so this is not an anomaly. But this group has a much larger
voice than any of the other groups that have met with the Bush
administration, and they claim--David Brog claimed to me that their
principal achievement has been keeping a ceasefire off the table for
the past month. So, their principal achievement has been essentially
giving Israel a free hand and the IDF a free hand to kind of, you
know, ramp up the war, and I think this has had catastrophic
consequences for the Middle East and the peace process.
I'm not discounting the influence of AIPAC. I'm not saying that
Christians United has anywhere near the influence of AIPAC, but in a
Republican-dominated Washington, Christians United represents where
the Republican base is at, and that's why you have Sam Brownback going
to their banquet. That's why Ken Mehlman, the head of the RNC, spoke
at their banquet.
SEE COMPLETE PROPAGANA ARTICLE FOR EVANGELICAL FINANCIAL AND US
MILITARY
SUPPORT FOR ZIONISM ANDWAR FOR ISRAEL
IN THE MIDDLE EAST
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/8/15/christians_united_for_israel_new_christian
Why all of this Christian support for Israel when Christians believe
that the Jews killed their Messiah-Jesus Christ?
Could it be because without the Jews and their Old Testament promise
of a second coming of a Messaih,
Jesus Christ would have been just another Jew causing
problems for the Roman invaders and the collaberating Jewish
leaders.?
Without that promise there could be no
Christianity.
The Evangelical Christians need the Jews to establish their claims
about Jesus being the Son-of-G-d. Without the Jewish prediction of a
"Second Coming", Jesus
would have been just another Jewish street magician.
Why Evangelicals, like snake oil salesman, Pat "Chazer" Robertson,
support Israel.
Allegedly:
Christians support Israel out of a sense of spiritual debt to the
Jews, noting that the majority of the Bible was written in Hebrew and
ordained by God to the Jews. It is through this original covenant
between God and His "chosen people," that gentiles are able to come to
God. Paul speaks of this spiritual debt and instructs us to assist the
Jews (Romans 15: 27).
"They were pleased to do this, and indeed they owe it to them; for if
the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual
blessings, they ought also to be of service to them in
material things."
The REAL reason:
Because the Christians really don't have a choice. We must
not forget that there would be no Christian religion if it were
not for the Jews. Remember the Jewish promise of a second
coming of a messiah? The Christian conservatives believe that Jesus is
that dude.
Christians MUST quote the Old Testament since that is where the whole
idea of a Jesus came from in the first place. Remember the promise of
a messiah?
I have often wondered why the Christians are so willing to approve and
defend the Zionist colonization of Palestine when, at the same time,
they complain that the Jews killed their leader? Could it be that, for
Christianity the Jewish prophesy of the second coming of a messiah is
necessary for the Christ of the New Testament to be real?
It doesn't matter that the Jews do not accept Jesus as their
messiah; the Christians are stuck with the second coming tale and the
rest of the Old Testament with its violence, gardens, sea-splitting
and the rest of the deal - warts and all.
Christians have been trying for years to eliminate the OT and the
insane and viscious deeds committed in the Jewish book, but they
can't. Without the "Promise" of a second coming and their argument
that Jesus Christ is the promised product itself, they are stuck with
it.
Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." Christiands confirmed it at
the Council of Nicea.
The First Council of Nicaea, convoked by the Roman Emperor Constantine
I in 325, was the first ecumenical conference of bishops of the
Christian Church.
The purpose of the council (also called a synod) was to resolve
disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in
relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the
same or of similar substance as God the Father. This is where Jesus
became divine. Until then he was just another unemployed Jew with a
political message. Just another man.
"Jesus Christ - Just a man just as a painter must needs paint him as a
man We shall tell what we have believed about Jesus of Nazareth, but
him we shall treat as being what he appeared to be, a man...
"Almost our only resources of information about the personality of
Jesus are derived from the four Gospels, all of which were certainly
in existence a few decades after his death, and from allusions to his
life in the letters (epistles) of the early Christian propagandists.
The first three Gospels, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, many
suppose to be derived from some earlier documents; the Gospel of
St.John has more idiosyncracy and is couloured by theology of a
strongly Hellenic type. Critics are disposed to regard the Gospel of
St. Mark as being the most trustworthy account of the personality and
actual words of Jesus. but all four agree in giving us a picture of a
very definite personality; they carry the same conviction of reality
that the early accounts of Buddha do. In spite of miraculous and
incredible additions, one must be obliged to say, "Here Is a Man. This
part of the tale could not have been invented."
--- H.G.Wells
Outline of History
It's all money and politics friends. The Jews need the political
support of the Evangelical community and its financial support to
continue their warmongering tactics in
Palestine and continued American mercenary troops dying in Iraq for
the defense of Israel in the Arab world and the badly needed oil from
Iraq.
It's that simple. Jews don't like Christians and Christians
don't trust the Jews. ( Read the Torah) However, at this time in
history,the two will pretend to love one another until there is nomore
Palestine and the US military controls all of the oil fields in the
Forbidden Zone.of the Planet of the Apes
www.torah.com serves the world-wide Jewish Community with guidance
and support for learning and living the Jewish Tradition with a
particular emphasis on being Jewish in a Gentile world
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SEE: Kirkuk to Haifa Pipeline: Reason for the War?
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/category/netanyahu-watch/
US discusses plan to pump fuel to its regional ally and solve energy
headache at a stroke Ed Vuillamy in Washington Sunday April 20, 2003
The Observer
By Steven Scheer
LONDON (Reuters) - Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he
expected an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel to be reopened in the
near future after being closed when Israel became a state in 1948.
"It won't be long when you will see Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa," the
port city in northern Israel, Netanyahu told a group of British
investors, declining to give a timetable.
"It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is reconstituted and
Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean."
Netanyahu later told Reuters the government was in the early stages of
looking into the possibility of reopening the pipeline, which during
the British Mandate sent oil from Mosul to Haifa via Jordan.
Shalom:
"It's not a pipe-dream," Netanyahu said.
Plans to build a pipeline to siphon oil from newly conquered Iraq to
Israel are being discussed between Washington, Tel Aviv and potential
future government figures in Baghdad.The plan envisages the
reconstruction of an old pipeline, inactive since the end of the
British mandate in Palestine in 1948, when the flow from Iraq's
northern oilfields to Palestine was re-directed to Syria.
Sunday, November 4, 2007
Iraqi invasion: oil perspective
The British built the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pipeline in 1927. In 1934, they
completed a 12-inch pipeline from the Kirkuk fields to Al-Haditha on
the Euphrates River. At that point the pipeline forked. One branch
went through Syria to Tripoli (Lebanon). The other went across Jordan
to Haifa. The British built refineries at both Tripoli and Haifa to
handle this Iraq oil. (In World War II, Germany wanted to get control
of this oil.)
In 1945 the British added a parallel 16-inch pipeline in Syria.
When Jews started to invade Palestine in 1945, Syria shut down its
branch to Tripoli. Iraq shut down all oil from from Kirkuk to Haifa.
At that point, most of northern Iraq's oil went to the Turkish port
city of Gihan, which was OK with the US, since Turkey was a US ally
against the USSR. Turkey collect transit fees for this oil.
In 1947 the British oil refinery at Haifa still handled trickle of oil
from miscellaneous areas, and still employed some 1,700 Arab workers,
plus 360 Jewish employees. The Arab and Jewish workers formed a union
to oppose British tyranny. Then Israel was created. Immediately Irgun
(commanded by Menachem Begin), the Hagana and other terrorist groups
moved in. Irgun had bombed the King David Hotel the year before, and
they started massacring Arabs in Haifa and elsewhere.
In 1952, western oil companies built two new lines through Syria to
Tripoli. The pipeline to Haifa was allowed to decay. Pieces of it were
dismantled. Various interests used the pieces to build water
pipelines.
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa (Kirkuk oil fields were said to contain
perhaps 40% of Iraq's oil), and partly to bring oil deals to his
personal friends, such as Ray L. Hunt. Small American oil companies
like Hunt Oil will extract Kurdish oil as soon as and if Mosul and
Kirkuk are broken off from Iraq (17 November 2007). Mosul is the first
stop for Kirkuk oil.
When the Haifa pipeline opens back up, only Jordan (not Israel) will
collect hefty transit fees. Kurdish oil will go to Europe via Israel,
not Turkey. This might be a reason why Turkey is threatening to
invade. The minute Bush invaded Iraq, the Turkish realized that the
pipeline to Haifa would be opened back up. Therefore Turkey tried to
make deals with Central Asian states (such as Azerbaijan) to get new
pipelines to Turkey, but now Iran and Russia have foiled Turkish plans
by forming the new alliance of Caspian Sea states. Turkey feels
squeezed. This is yet another reason why they are threatening to
invade northern Iraq.
Shortly after the 2003 invasion, Benyamin Netanyahu (the then Israeli
finance minister) boasted, "Soon you will see Iraqi oil flowing to
Haifa. It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is
reconstituted, and Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean. It's not
a pipe dream."
Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) the US guaranteed all
Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. This MoU is quietly
renewed every five years. It commits US taxpayers to maintain a
strategic US reserve for Israel, equivalent to $3 billion in 2002
dollars. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from
restrictions on oil exports from the US. Moreover, the US government
agreed to divert oil from the US, even in case of oil shortages in the
US. The US government also guaranteed delivery of oil in US tankers if
commercial shippers become unable or unwilling to carry oil from the
US to Israel.
SEE
Israel-United States Memorandum of Understanding
(September 1, 1975)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/mou1975.html
Israel can wrench lot of oil from the region if the pipeline were used
again and Kurds were willing to sell the oil. It would also make Kurds
dependent on Israelis for oil revenues and thus give a greater
leverage to Israelis over Kurds of the region...
We are All Jews Now
Aidel gepotchket - Delicately brought up
Consider the present crisis in America and the rise of anti-
Americanism worldwide. "The US has become a Jewish state in more ways
than one. It has the same security checks, the same holocaust museums,
the same poverty for many and riches for a few as Israel
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Jones_Palestine.htm
Azoy gait es! - That's how it goes!
Rival AIPAC.
(A Real Con Job)
Bible Pounding Pastor John Hagee spearheads Christians United for
Israel
Why?
We take a look at a new recently established group called Christians
United for Israel-an evangelical organization that believes supporting
expansionist policies of the Israeli government is: "a biblical
imperative." We speak with investigative journalist Max Blumenthal who
reports they lobbied the Bush administration to adopt a
confrontational posture toward Iran, refuse aid to the Palestinians
and give Israel a free hand in its attack on Lebanon. [includes rush
transcript]
In March of this year, a study on the role of the Israel lobby in US
foreign policy caused an uproar in the academic community and in the
media. The paper's authors, Professor Stephen Walt of Harvard
University and John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago, argued
the pro-Israel lobby has unduly influenced the United States to set
aside its own security in order to advance the interests of Israel.
The study emphasized the activities of the pro-Israel lobby group the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC.
Well, there's another side of the pro-Israel lobby that's drawing
increasing attention--and some say its far more influential. A new
group was recently established called Christians United for Israel-
CUFI. They're an evangelical organization that believes supporting
expansionist policies of the Israeli government is: "a biblical
imperative." In a new article for The Nation, journalist Max
Blumenthal reports group members have held several meetings with White
House officials to talk about US policy in the Middle East. They've
apparently lobbied the administration to adopt a confrontational
posture toward Iran, refuse aid to the Palestinians and give Israel a
free hand in its attack on Lebanon.
We're going to speak with Max Blumenthal in a moment but first, we
hear from Christians United for Israel. Their inaugural event was held
last month in Washington, DC. More than 3,000 people were in
attendance to hear speeches from Israeli and American dignitaries.
Among the speakers was Kansas Republican Senator Sam Brownback.
SEN. SAM BROWNBACK: Thank you in your energy. Thank you in your
prayers. Thank you for standing with Israel in this difficult time. I
close with noting that the recently elected Prime Minister of Israel
addressed a joint session of Congress about a month or so ago. And he
spoke there, and I sat as I listened to him give an eloquent speech,
uniting speech, thinking to myself, the United States doesn't have a
closer partner in the world than Israel today. And it is true. And
it's important for us, when our friend is in difficulty, Israel, that
we stand by them in this difficult time. Thank you for being here. God
bless you all. God bless the United States of America. And God bless
the Israeli people.
The group's founder, Texas television evangelist, John Hagee, also
spoke.
JOHN HAGEE: We gather in Washington, D.C., tonight for one of the most
dramatic moments in the history of American Christiandom. We gather
here from every state in the nation. We gather here with more than
3,400 spiritual leaders. We gather for one purpose: to express our
solidarity with the state of Israel and the Jewish people, because
this historic event is being telecast across the nation and around the
world; because this telecast is being seen in Iran, where a new
Hitler, the President of Iran, threatens to annihilate Israel with a
nuclear holocaust, saying Israel should be wiped off the map and
saying, like it or not, the Zionist regime is headed toward total
annihilation, to be ended with a sudden storm; because the enemies of
Israel are doubtless watching this telecast and question our resolve
as Christians to stand with Israel until Islamofascism is totally
defeated; because this will be seen in Israel by a war-weary people
who at this very hour are once again fighting Hamas terrorists whose
covenant calls for the death of Jewish people and total destruction of
Israel; because God in heaven is watching and has commanded us, keep
not silent concerning Israel. Well, those of you in this audience who
stand in solidarity with Israel, until victory comes, stand and send a
message to the U.S. Congress, to the people of Israel, to the enemies
of Israel: We are with you. We stand with you. Israel, you are not
alone.
Max Blumenthal, who writes about Christians United for Israel in a new
piece for The Nation. He's a Puffin Foundation Writing Fellow at the
Nation Institute. He's based in Washington, D.C. His pieces have
appeared in The Nation, and Salon, American Prospect, Washington
Monthly. His piece is called "Birth Pangs of a New Christian Zionism."
MAX BLUMENTHAL: Christian Zionism has been a force within the
Christian right for over 20 years, and they've made--the Christian
Zionist movement, they've made themselves an asset to Israel by
sending millions in aid money to Israel. They're a major source of
Israeli tourism, especially during the Second Intifada. They were
perhaps the only source of tourism revenue for Israel, which is a key
source of revenue for the Israeli government. And on an individual
basis, leaders of the Christian Zionist movement have lobbied the
government, especially the Bush administration, which has had an open
door policy to them. But never before has there been an official
Washington lobbying organization for the Christian Zionist movement.
So now you have Christians United for Israel, which was founded in
February by John Hagee, who commands a mega-church in San Antonio with
18,000 members. He's a huge force in Texas politics, a close, personal
friend of Tom DeLay. And what this organization has done is they've
convened all of the major Christian Zionist mega-churches in the
country under one umbrella group, and they've hired a lobbyist. Hagee
has a lot of money through his congregation. And their lobbyist is a
guy named David Brog, who's the former chief of staff to Arlen
Specter, and he's Jewish, so this makes him a huge asset to this
organization, because he can beat back criticism from other Jewish
leaders that Christian Zionists harbor ulterior motives for supporting
Israel, that they have an Armageddon-based agenda for supporting
Israel.
And if you look at what John Hagee has written in his books, like
Jerusalem Countdown, his most recent book, which cites 17 unnamed
Israeli intelligence sources to claim that Iran is producing nuclear
suitcase bombs and that Israel must engage in a "nuclear showdown"
with Iran or risk committing national suicide, if you look at what
he's written, he does have an Armageddon-based agenda. And so I think
what this lobby does, it plays an instrumental PR role on behalf of
the Christian Zionist movement in preventing legitimate criticism of
their motives for supporting Israel, and they are bolstering what
AIPAC is doing and possibly even radicalizing what AIPAC is doing, by
providing them a grassroots base in the heartland.
The majority of America's 60 million evangelicals are premillenial
dispensationalists. They believe that the end times could come at any
moment, and they're looking for signs of that, so they're sympathetic
to supporting Israel for these reasons. And so they provide a strong
grassroots base. This is the Republican base. This is the only
component of the Republican base that still supports Bush's policies
in Iraq without question, unconditionally, and supports Israel's
expansionism. While the American Jewish community is willing to, you
know, stand for Israel and show solidarity for Israel, they also
support a peace process, and they support a sovereign Palestinian
state. But this group doesn't.
You know, for instance, Pat Robertson went on the 700 Club and said
that Ariel Sharon's descent into a comatose state was punishment for
dividing the land for the Gaza withdrawal, for pulling 9,000 extremist
settlers out of a huge swath of land. And, you know, then last week,
Pat Robertson was flown to Israel to pray with Ehud Olmert and go on
the 700 Club and tell his viewership that the Lebanese civilians, the
Lebanese society was harboring terrorists, and therefore, civilian
casualties were justified. So they play a PR role on behalf of the
extremist wing of Israeli political culture. They're very connected to
people like Benjamin Netanyahu, who's positioning himself to succeed
Ehud Olmert in the wake of Olmert's possibly imminent resignation. So
I think there's a real danger here...... Well, we know in the past
that Karl Rove and people in Karl Rove's shop, like Tim Goeglein and
Elliott Abrams, who's in the State Department, who's traveling, you
know, to Israel with Condoleezza Rice, have met with Christian Zionist
groups, so this is not an anomaly. But this group has a much larger
voice than any of the other groups that have met with the Bush
administration, and they claim--David Brog claimed to me that their
principal achievement has been keeping a ceasefire off the table for
the past month. So, their principal achievement has been essentially
giving Israel a free hand and the IDF a free hand to kind of, you
know, ramp up the war, and I think this has had catastrophic
consequences for the Middle East and the peace process.
I'm not discounting the influence of AIPAC. I'm not saying that
Christians United has anywhere near the influence of AIPAC, but in a
Republican-dominated Washington, Christians United represents where
the Republican base is at, and that's why you have Sam Brownback going
to their banquet. That's why Ken Mehlman, the head of the RNC, spoke
at their banquet.
SEE COMPLETE PROPAGANA ARTICLE FOR EVANGELICAL FINANCIAL AND US
MILITARY
SUPPORT FOR ZIONISM ANDWAR FOR ISRAEL
IN THE MIDDLE EAST
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/8/15/christians_united_for_israel_new_christian
Why all of this Christian support for Israel when Christians believe
that the Jews killed their Messiah-Jesus Christ?
Could it be because without the Jews and their Old Testament promise
of a second coming of a Messaih,
Jesus Christ would have been just another Jew causing
problems for the Roman invaders and the collaberating Jewish
leaders.?
Without that promise there could be no
Christianity.
The Evangelical Christians need the Jews to establish their claims
about Jesus being the Son-of-G-d. Without the Jewish prediction of a
"Second Coming", Jesus
would have been just another Jewish street magician.
Why Evangelicals, like snake oil salesman, Pat "Chazer" Robertson,
support Israel.
Allegedly:
Christians support Israel out of a sense of spiritual debt to the
Jews, noting that the majority of the Bible was written in Hebrew and
ordained by God to the Jews. It is through this original covenant
between God and His "chosen people," that gentiles are able to come to
God. Paul speaks of this spiritual debt and instructs us to assist the
Jews (Romans 15: 27).
"They were pleased to do this, and indeed they owe it to them; for if
the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual
blessings, they ought also to be of service to them in
material things."
The REAL reason:
Because the Christians really don't have a choice. We must
not forget that there would be no Christian religion if it were
not for the Jews. Remember the Jewish promise of a second
coming of a messiah? The Christian conservatives believe that Jesus is
that dude.
Christians MUST quote the Old Testament since that is where the whole
idea of a Jesus came from in the first place. Remember the promise of
a messiah?
I have often wondered why the Christians are so willing to approve and
defend the Zionist colonization of Palestine when, at the same time,
they complain that the Jews killed their leader? Could it be that, for
Christianity the Jewish prophesy of the second coming of a messiah is
necessary for the Christ of the New Testament to be real?
It doesn't matter that the Jews do not accept Jesus as their
messiah; the Christians are stuck with the second coming tale and the
rest of the Old Testament with its violence, gardens, sea-splitting
and the rest of the deal - warts and all.
Christians have been trying for years to eliminate the OT and the
insane and viscious deeds committed in the Jewish book, but they
can't. Without the "Promise" of a second coming and their argument
that Jesus Christ is the promised product itself, they are stuck with
it.
Jesus said, "I and the Father are one." Christiands confirmed it at
the Council of Nicea.
The First Council of Nicaea, convoked by the Roman Emperor Constantine
I in 325, was the first ecumenical conference of bishops of the
Christian Church.
The purpose of the council (also called a synod) was to resolve
disagreements in the Church of Alexandria over the nature of Jesus in
relationship to the Father; in particular, whether Jesus was of the
same or of similar substance as God the Father. This is where Jesus
became divine. Until then he was just another unemployed Jew with a
political message. Just another man.
"Jesus Christ - Just a man just as a painter must needs paint him as a
man We shall tell what we have believed about Jesus of Nazareth, but
him we shall treat as being what he appeared to be, a man...
"Almost our only resources of information about the personality of
Jesus are derived from the four Gospels, all of which were certainly
in existence a few decades after his death, and from allusions to his
life in the letters (epistles) of the early Christian propagandists.
The first three Gospels, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, many
suppose to be derived from some earlier documents; the Gospel of
St.John has more idiosyncracy and is couloured by theology of a
strongly Hellenic type. Critics are disposed to regard the Gospel of
St. Mark as being the most trustworthy account of the personality and
actual words of Jesus. but all four agree in giving us a picture of a
very definite personality; they carry the same conviction of reality
that the early accounts of Buddha do. In spite of miraculous and
incredible additions, one must be obliged to say, "Here Is a Man. This
part of the tale could not have been invented."
--- H.G.Wells
Outline of History
It's all money and politics friends. The Jews need the political
support of the Evangelical community and its financial support to
continue their warmongering tactics in
Palestine and continued American mercenary troops dying in Iraq for
the defense of Israel in the Arab world and the badly needed oil from
Iraq.
It's that simple. Jews don't like Christians and Christians
don't trust the Jews. ( Read the Torah) However, at this time in
history,the two will pretend to love one another until there is nomore
Palestine and the US military controls all of the oil fields in the
Forbidden Zone.of the Planet of the Apes
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SEE: Kirkuk to Haifa Pipeline: Reason for the War?
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/category/netanyahu-watch/
US discusses plan to pump fuel to its regional ally and solve energy
headache at a stroke Ed Vuillamy in Washington Sunday April 20, 2003
The Observer
By Steven Scheer
LONDON (Reuters) - Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he
expected an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel to be reopened in the
near future after being closed when Israel became a state in 1948.
"It won't be long when you will see Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa," the
port city in northern Israel, Netanyahu told a group of British
investors, declining to give a timetable.
"It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is reconstituted and
Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean."
Netanyahu later told Reuters the government was in the early stages of
looking into the possibility of reopening the pipeline, which during
the British Mandate sent oil from Mosul to Haifa via Jordan.
Shalom:
"It's not a pipe-dream," Netanyahu said.
Plans to build a pipeline to siphon oil from newly conquered Iraq to
Israel are being discussed between Washington, Tel Aviv and potential
future government figures in Baghdad.The plan envisages the
reconstruction of an old pipeline, inactive since the end of the
British mandate in Palestine in 1948, when the flow from Iraq's
northern oilfields to Palestine was re-directed to Syria.
Sunday, November 4, 2007
Iraqi invasion: oil perspective
The British built the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pipeline in 1927. In 1934, they
completed a 12-inch pipeline from the Kirkuk fields to Al-Haditha on
the Euphrates River. At that point the pipeline forked. One branch
went through Syria to Tripoli (Lebanon). The other went across Jordan
to Haifa. The British built refineries at both Tripoli and Haifa to
handle this Iraq oil. (In World War II, Germany wanted to get control
of this oil.)
In 1945 the British added a parallel 16-inch pipeline in Syria.
When Jews started to invade Palestine in 1945, Syria shut down its
branch to Tripoli. Iraq shut down all oil from from Kirkuk to Haifa.
At that point, most of northern Iraq's oil went to the Turkish port
city of Gihan, which was OK with the US, since Turkey was a US ally
against the USSR. Turkey collect transit fees for this oil.
In 1947 the British oil refinery at Haifa still handled trickle of oil
from miscellaneous areas, and still employed some 1,700 Arab workers,
plus 360 Jewish employees. The Arab and Jewish workers formed a union
to oppose British tyranny. Then Israel was created. Immediately Irgun
(commanded by Menachem Begin), the Hagana and other terrorist groups
moved in. Irgun had bombed the King David Hotel the year before, and
they started massacring Arabs in Haifa and elsewhere.
In 1952, western oil companies built two new lines through Syria to
Tripoli. The pipeline to Haifa was allowed to decay. Pieces of it were
dismantled. Various interests used the pieces to build water
pipelines.
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa (Kirkuk oil fields were said to contain
perhaps 40% of Iraq's oil), and partly to bring oil deals to his
personal friends, such as Ray L. Hunt. Small American oil companies
like Hunt Oil will extract Kurdish oil as soon as and if Mosul and
Kirkuk are broken off from Iraq (17 November 2007). Mosul is the first
stop for Kirkuk oil.
When the Haifa pipeline opens back up, only Jordan (not Israel) will
collect hefty transit fees. Kurdish oil will go to Europe via Israel,
not Turkey. This might be a reason why Turkey is threatening to
invade. The minute Bush invaded Iraq, the Turkish realized that the
pipeline to Haifa would be opened back up. Therefore Turkey tried to
make deals with Central Asian states (such as Azerbaijan) to get new
pipelines to Turkey, but now Iran and Russia have foiled Turkish plans
by forming the new alliance of Caspian Sea states. Turkey feels
squeezed. This is yet another reason why they are threatening to
invade northern Iraq.
Shortly after the 2003 invasion, Benyamin Netanyahu (the then Israeli
finance minister) boasted, "Soon you will see Iraqi oil flowing to
Haifa. It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is
reconstituted, and Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean. It's not
a pipe dream."
Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) the US guaranteed all
Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. This MoU is quietly
renewed every five years. It commits US taxpayers to maintain a
strategic US reserve for Israel, equivalent to $3 billion in 2002
dollars. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from
restrictions on oil exports from the US. Moreover, the US government
agreed to divert oil from the US, even in case of oil shortages in the
US. The US government also guaranteed delivery of oil in US tankers if
commercial shippers become unable or unwilling to carry oil from the
US to Israel.
SEE
Israel-United States Memorandum of Understanding
(September 1, 1975)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/mou1975.html
Israel can wrench lot of oil from the region if the pipeline were used
again and Kurds were willing to sell the oil. It would also make Kurds
dependent on Israelis for oil revenues and thus give a greater
leverage to Israelis over Kurds of the region...
We are All Jews Now
Aidel gepotchket - Delicately brought up
Consider the present crisis in America and the rise of anti-
Americanism worldwide. "The US has become a Jewish state in more ways
than one. It has the same security checks, the same holocaust museums,
the same poverty for many and riches for a few as Israel
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Jones_Palestine.htm
Azoy gait es! - That's how it goes!