Guest Randy Cox Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are more of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to the global warming problem. Well, man does burn a lot of fossil fuel. It is a fact that we dump more emissions in the air, and by the sheer numbers of combustion explosions going on down the interstates is pretty much an common sense indication that we raise the temperature to some degree. The degree we raise the temperatures is a fair question. What if we do take measures to reduce those things we've being doing in mass numbers that weren't being done before we dominated the earth? What if we reduced the filth in the air? I live in Dallas, Texas; in the summer we see the brown sky. My Dad died from an insufficiency of oxygen. A little more clean air, he might have lived another decade. How bad would it be to do those things if there was actually some unseen effect that neutralized those things we've been doing. Someone, in another post, mentioned the irrational left. How about the irrational right? The rational right, of course, would understand supply and demand enough to know, that for every gallon of oil we replace with a green source of energy, there is a downward pressure on supply which causes a downward pressure on oil prices. How bad would that be if we needed a little less oil? Every generation has its superficial thinkers and its deeper visionaries. The superficial minds see the immediate cost of a new technology where the deeper minded see the prospect of energy technologies beyond our wildest dreams. It wasn't the flat earth society that brought us the internet, folks. Al Gore was there, decades before the superficial. The superficial want to deny his contribution. That is just more irrational and uninformed thinking. None of the pioneers of the internet ignore the part Al Gore played...only the irrational shallow minded people that choose one delusion after another. Many of them are still searching for weapons of mass destruction. Some of them actually see WMD where there are none. The rational green thinkers know we need to invest in new energy technology. Capital investment is the process of withdrawing profits from consumption and immediate gratification and converting them into capital, then invested in research that could lead us into undreamed of discoveries. What's wrong with that? The old energy companies, the oil companies are deeply invested in yesterday. Yes, they buy up new technologies, but they store them. They say they save them for when needed. They will only need them when THEY no longer have oil to sell at a premium price. We need them right now. I believe the rational approach is keep our mind open on global warming. We should listen to Al Gore and consider as many of his suggestions as are wise. He can have his HOV lane back! So to those who hate America first, and Al Gore second, I ask them what are some of Al Gore's energy suggestions. If they know none, then I know they know very little and are not the people to listen to. If they are knowledgeable and tell me some bad things Al Gore wants...and then admit to some of the good things. We can find good things to agree on. If they are just ignorant protesters slobbering mantra from talk radio, without any real thoughts of their own, I can just ignore them as they should be ignored. Randy Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Joe S. Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 "Randy Cox" <randycox1947@verizon.net> wrote in message news:rGbQi.9847$uC1.9828@trnddc04... > Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are more > of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to the global > warming problem. Well, man does burn a lot of fossil fuel. It is a fact > that we dump more emissions in the air, and by the sheer numbers of > combustion explosions going on down the interstates is pretty much an > common sense indication that we raise the temperature to some degree. The > degree we raise the temperatures is a fair question. > > What if we do take measures to reduce those things we've being doing in > mass numbers that weren't being done before we dominated the earth? What > if we reduced the filth in the air? I live in Dallas, Texas; in the > summer we see the brown sky. My Dad died from an insufficiency of oxygen. > A little more clean air, he might have lived another decade. > > How bad would it be to do those things if there was actually some unseen > effect that neutralized those things we've been doing. Someone, in > another post, mentioned the irrational left. How about the irrational > right? The rational right, of course, would understand supply and demand > enough to know, that for every gallon of oil we replace with a green > source of energy, there is a downward pressure on supply which causes a > downward pressure on oil prices. How bad would that be if we needed a > little less oil? > > Every generation has its superficial thinkers and its deeper visionaries. > The superficial minds see the immediate cost of a new technology where the > deeper minded see the prospect of energy technologies beyond our wildest > dreams. It wasn't the flat earth society that brought us the internet, > folks. Al Gore was there, decades before the superficial. The > superficial want to deny his contribution. That is just more irrational > and uninformed thinking. None of the pioneers of the internet ignore the > part Al Gore played...only the irrational shallow minded people that > choose one delusion after another. Many of them are still searching for > weapons of mass destruction. Some of them actually see WMD where there > are none. > > The rational green thinkers know we need to invest in new energy > technology. Capital investment is the process of withdrawing profits from > consumption and immediate gratification and converting them into capital, > then invested in research that could lead us into undreamed of > discoveries. What's wrong with that? > > The old energy companies, the oil companies are deeply invested in > yesterday. Yes, they buy up new technologies, but they store them. They > say they save them for when needed. > They will only need them when THEY no longer have oil to sell at a premium > price. We need them right now. > > I believe the rational approach is keep our mind open on global warming. > We should listen to Al Gore and consider as many of his suggestions as > are wise. He can have his HOV lane back! > > So to those who hate America first, and Al Gore second, I ask them what > are some of Al Gore's energy suggestions. If they know none, then I know > they know very little and are not the people to listen to. If they are > knowledgeable and tell me some bad things Al Gore wants...and then admit > to some of the good things. We can find good things to agree on. If they > are just ignorant protesters slobbering mantra from talk radio, without > any real thoughts of their own, I can just ignore them as they should be > ignored. > > Randy Cox > > > > > You must be an enviro-nazi and a tree-hugger who hates America. NOBODY is going to take away my Ford Excursion with a 500CI engine and 8 MPG. It's my right under the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 "Randy Cox" <randycox1947@verizon.net> wrote in message news:rGbQi.9847$uC1.9828@trnddc04... > Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are more > of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to the global > warming problem. Of course we add to global warming. The problem is - is global warming a problem or is it what the Earth does anyway? > The degree we raise the temperatures is a fair question. Its a stupid question. > How bad would that be if we needed a little less oil? It wouldn't be bad at all. > It wasn't the flat earth society that brought us the internet, folks. True, but they made it funny. > Al Gore was there, decades before the superficial. Al is always first in line when they're serving donuts. > The rational green thinkers know we need to invest in new energy > technology. Capital investment is the process of withdrawing profits from > consumption and immediate gratification and converting them into capital, > then invested in research that could lead us into undreamed of > discoveries. What's wrong with that? The people who OWN that capital are doing that now. > The old energy companies, the oil companies are deeply invested in > yesterday. Yes, they buy up new technologies, but they store them. They > say they save them for when needed. > They will only need them when THEY no longer have oil to sell at a premium > price. We need them right now. They aren't being stored. They're here right now. You can toss some solar on your roof right now and reduce your electricity by 15% and you can install a tankless water heater and reduce your water consumption by 30%. What's stopping you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lorad474@cs.com Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 On Oct 13, 3:56 pm, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote: > "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:rGbQi.9847$uC1.9828@trnddc04... > > > > > > > Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are more > > of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to the global > > warming problem. Well, man does burn a lot of fossil fuel. It is a fact > > that we dump more emissions in the air, and by the sheer numbers of > > combustion explosions going on down the interstates is pretty much an > > common sense indication that we raise the temperature to some degree. The > > degree we raise the temperatures is a fair question. > > > What if we do take measures to reduce those things we've being doing in > > mass numbers that weren't being done before we dominated the earth? What > > if we reduced the filth in the air? I live in Dallas, Texas; in the > > summer we see the brown sky. My Dad died from an insufficiency of oxygen. > > A little more clean air, he might have lived another decade. > > > How bad would it be to do those things if there was actually some unseen > > effect that neutralized those things we've been doing. Someone, in > > another post, mentioned the irrational left. How about the irrational > > right? The rational right, of course, would understand supply and demand > > enough to know, that for every gallon of oil we replace with a green > > source of energy, there is a downward pressure on supply which causes a > > downward pressure on oil prices. How bad would that be if we needed a > > little less oil? > > > Every generation has its superficial thinkers and its deeper visionaries. > > The superficial minds see the immediate cost of a new technology where the > > deeper minded see the prospect of energy technologies beyond our wildest > > dreams. It wasn't the flat earth society that brought us the internet, > > folks. Al Gore was there, decades before the superficial. The > > superficial want to deny his contribution. That is just more irrational > > and uninformed thinking. None of the pioneers of the internet ignore the > > part Al Gore played...only the irrational shallow minded people that > > choose one delusion after another. Many of them are still searching for > > weapons of mass destruction. Some of them actually see WMD where there > > are none. > > > The rational green thinkers know we need to invest in new energy > > technology. Capital investment is the process of withdrawing profits from > > consumption and immediate gratification and converting them into capital, > > then invested in research that could lead us into undreamed of > > discoveries. What's wrong with that? > > > The old energy companies, the oil companies are deeply invested in > > yesterday. Yes, they buy up new technologies, but they store them. They > > say they save them for when needed. > > They will only need them when THEY no longer have oil to sell at a premium > > price. We need them right now. > > > I believe the rational approach is keep our mind open on global warming. > > We should listen to Al Gore and consider as many of his suggestions as > > are wise. He can have his HOV lane back! > > > So to those who hate America first, and Al Gore second, I ask them what > > are some of Al Gore's energy suggestions. If they know none, then I know > > they know very little and are not the people to listen to. If they are > > knowledgeable and tell me some bad things Al Gore wants...and then admit > > to some of the good things. We can find good things to agree on. If they > > are just ignorant protesters slobbering mantra from talk radio, without > > any real thoughts of their own, I can just ignore them as they should be > > ignored. > > > Randy Cox > > You must be an enviro-nazi and a tree-hugger who hates America. > > NOBODY is going to take away my Ford Excursion with a 500CI engine and 8 > MPG. It's my right under the Constitution. Careful with your sarcasm.. some might consider it your true feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lorad474@cs.com Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 On Oct 14, 10:19 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: > "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:rGbQi.9847$uC1.9828@trnddc04... > > > Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are more > > of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to the global > > warming problem. > > Of course we add to global warming. The problem is - is global warming a > problem or is it what the Earth does anyway? > > > The degree we raise the temperatures is a fair question. > > Its a stupid question. > > > How bad would that be if we needed a little less oil? > > It wouldn't be bad at all. > > > It wasn't the flat earth society that brought us the internet, folks. > > True, but they made it funny. > > > Al Gore was there, decades before the superficial. > > Al is always first in line when they're serving donuts. > > > The rational green thinkers know we need to invest in new energy > > technology. Capital investment is the process of withdrawing profits from > > consumption and immediate gratification and converting them into capital, > > then invested in research that could lead us into undreamed of > > discoveries. What's wrong with that? > > The people who OWN that capital are doing that now. > > > The old energy companies, the oil companies are deeply invested in > > yesterday. Yes, they buy up new technologies, but they store them. They > > say they save them for when needed. > > They will only need them when THEY no longer have oil to sell at a premium > > price. We need them right now. > > They aren't being stored. They're here right now. You can toss some solar > on your roof right now and reduce your electricity by 15% and you can > install a tankless water heater and reduce your water consumption by 30%. > > What's stopping you? It only works if a lot of people do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 <lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message news:1192384251.600797.248300@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 14, 10:19 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote: >> "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:rGbQi.9847$uC1.9828@trnddc04... >> > Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are >> > more >> > of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to the >> > global >> > warming problem. >> Of course we add to global warming. The problem is - is global warming a >> problem or is it what the Earth does anyway? >> > The degree we raise the temperatures is a fair question. >> Its a stupid question. >> > How bad would that be if we needed a little less oil? >> It wouldn't be bad at all. >> > It wasn't the flat earth society that brought us the internet, folks. >> True, but they made it funny. >> > Al Gore was there, decades before the superficial. >> Al is always first in line when they're serving donuts. >> > The rational green thinkers know we need to invest in new energy >> > technology. Capital investment is the process of withdrawing profits >> > from >> > consumption and immediate gratification and converting them into >> > capital, >> > then invested in research that could lead us into undreamed of >> > discoveries. What's wrong with that? >> The people who OWN that capital are doing that now. >> > The old energy companies, the oil companies are deeply invested in >> > yesterday. Yes, they buy up new technologies, but they store them. >> > They >> > say they save them for when needed. >> > They will only need them when THEY no longer have oil to sell at a >> > premium >> > price. We need them right now. >> They aren't being stored. They're here right now. You can toss some >> solar >> on your roof right now and reduce your electricity by 15% and you can >> install a tankless water heater and reduce your water consumption by 30%. >> What's stopping you? > It only works if a lot of people do it. Thank GOD they haven't asked you to help balance the budget! Trust me on this, when I put solar on my garage roof to charge the batteries to power the pool water heater THERE WAS NOT someone calculating how much electricity I saved and immediately using that much more! Trust me on this too, when I put in 3 tankless water heaters THERE WAS NOT someone calculating how much water and electricity I saved and immediately using that much more! Here's my suggestion for you: 1) Stay out all night Saturday getting drunk. 2) Post on the Internet Sunday afternoon. Pick ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kT Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Patriot Games wrote: > "Randy Cox" <randycox1947@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:rGbQi.9847$uC1.9828@trnddc04... >> Some want to continue doing what we've always done...only there are >> more of us than before. Some want to challenge whether man adds to >> the global warming problem. > > Of course we add to global warming. The problem is - is global warming > a problem or is it what the Earth does anyway? And a serious problem it is for American redneck hillbillies everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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