Guest Gandalf Grey Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Dead Men and Women Walking By Dave Lindorff Created Oct 24 2007 - 8:47am The Democratic Party in Congress, and indeed the leading candidates for the party's presidential nomination, are all dead men and women walking. They look alive. They may even think they're alive. But their political futures are close to moribund. Faced with grave moral issues--a criminal and unpopular war that is costing the country the lives of thousands of its young people, and hundreds of billions of dollars a year, a president who treats the Constitution like so much toiletpaper, and an economy that is being hollowed out like a Halloween pumpkin, these Democrats are doing nothing. Repeatedly offered chances to stand up and act, they have ducked each time instead. Twice already, President Bush, himself backed by only one in four Americans today (a lower level of public support than even Nixon had after his resignation in disgrace following the impeachment vote against him by the House Judiciary Committee) has come to Congress requesting another more than $100 billion in funding for his war in Iraq, and Congress has rolled over and given it to him. Bush has responded to the resignation in disgrace of his lying, cheating attorney general, former White House lawyer Alberto Gonzales, by nominating a man, former Federal District Judge Michael Mukasey, who refuses to condemn torture and who insists that the president is not bound by the Constitution or the law. Congressional Democrats could, and should, refuse such an outrageous sycophant to power for the nation's top law enforcement office, but instead, they look like they plan to okay him for the job. Over the summer, the President asked for legislation retroactively sanctioning his illegal National Security Agency wiretapping program, which has enlisted the help of the nation's telecom firms to help them spy on you and me and hundreds of thousands- perhaps millions--of Americans. Congress could have said no and won the respect and gratitude of Americans across the political spectrum, who are alarmed at the dramatic erosion of American liberty that has occurred in seven years of Bush/Cheney administration Constitution trampling. Instead, they gave Bush what he wanted--a "temporary" bill that endorsed the secret, warrantless spying, and even gave retroactive sanction. Now the Democratic Congress is on the verge of making that sanction permanent, while extending immunity from civil litigation to the phone companies that have been going along with the spying. In all this, the Democratic Party leadership and its minions in House and Senate have not been cowards. Rather, they have apparently decided that they can gain power in November 2008 not by playing the part of feisty and principled opposition, but by playing dead for two years. The idea appears to be to pass no controversial legislation, indeed to do nothing of consequence, and to leave the massively unpopular Bush in power, while allowing his massively unpopular Iraq War continue along its bloody way. They will complain about the constitutional violations, and complain about the war, but when presented with golden opportunities to act, and to bring an end to those crimes, they have done nothing, and will continue to do nothing. The American public is seeing through this Machiavellian strategy, however, which is why the Congress is now supported by only 11 percent--a figure that is less than half Bush's anemic favorable rating, and only within the margin of error of Cheney's 9 percent support base. The joke is that in the end, this strategy, if it can be called that, may end up backfiring. Americans traditionally have a pretty low opinion of politicians. They may not be very good at spotting hucksters, but when they do feel that they are being played, they are quick to punish. I think the public has caught on to what the Democrats are doing, and may well decide next November that they'd rather go with Republicans who, while crazy and bad with checkbooks, are at least willing to act on their wacky beliefs, than with Democrats, who just cynically sit back and watch, hoping to win by default. _______ About author Dave Lindorff is the author of Killing Time: an Investigation into the Death Row Case of Mumia Abu-Jamal [1]. His new book of columns titled "This Can't be Happening! [2]" is published by Common Courage Press. Lindorff's new book is "The Case for Impeachment [3]," co-authored by Barbara Olshansky. He can be reached at: dlindorff@yahoo.com [4] -- NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material available to advance understanding of political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues. I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107 "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake." -Thomas Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest B1ackwater Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:54:01 -0700, "Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote: >Dead Men and Women Walking > >By Dave Lindorff >Created Oct 24 2007 - 8:47am > >The Democratic Party in Congress, and indeed the leading candidates for the >party's presidential nomination, are all dead men and women walking. > >They look alive. They may even think they're alive. But their political >futures are close to moribund. > >Faced with grave moral issues--a criminal and unpopular war that is costing >the country the lives of thousands of its young people, and hundreds of >billions of dollars a year, a president who treats the Constitution like so >much toiletpaper, and an economy that is being hollowed out like a Halloween >pumpkin, these Democrats are doing nothing. > >Repeatedly offered chances to stand up and act, they have ducked each time >instead. The Dems won't do anything to fix the administrations mistakes and excesses - and neither will the Republicans OR any of the Republican candidates (except maybe Ron Paul, but he wouldn't get any help from either party). As for the Dems ... I think that they're secretly drooling over that shredded constitution, envisioning all the ways they can use the existing palette of extraordinary powers to wreak revenge on the GOP and GOP interests plus hammer through some of their favored social-engineering ideas. The "Patriot act" and related surveillance-state legislation could be even more dangerous in DNC hands than in the GOPs hands (to date). At least the GOP sees foreign devils everywhere and tends to abuse its power persecuting them. The enemies the Dems see ... not foreigners, but ye and me and the guy next door too. In short, the entire slate of '08 presidental candidates is LAME. It's like we've run out of real leader types and have to play the 2nd-stringers. I'm still concerned that by convention-time, the most noted 2nd-stringer, AlGore, will be drafted ... as everyone realizes just HOW bad the other hopefuls are. Al could win - not because he's "better", just because he's "more famous" these days. He was an acceptable VP, but not the guy I'd want behind the Big Desk where all the bucks come to die. In a contest of lame-o's the "most famous" one is the likely winner. We may get a DNC White House for no better reason than that. Yea, yea Gandy ... I'm sure YOU think Al is a demigod ... but he's not. Just another 2nd-string politician and all that description implies. As I see it, no matter WHAT the outcome of the '08 contest we're all screwed. And for '12 ... the 3rd-stringers, likely ... '16 ? Dunno. Maybe we'll be part of the Chinese Empire by then ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zob95@yahoo.com Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 On Oct 25, 4:52 pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:54:01 -0700, "Gandalf Grey" > > > > > > <gandalfg...@infectedmail.com> wrote: > >Dead Men and Women Walking > > >By Dave Lindorff > >Created Oct 24 2007 - 8:47am > > >The Democratic Party in Congress, and indeed the leading candidates for the > >party's presidential nomination, are all dead men and women walking. > > >They look alive. They may even think they're alive. But their political > >futures are close to moribund. > > >Faced with grave moral issues--a criminal and unpopular war that is costing > >the country the lives of thousands of its young people, and hundreds of > >billions of dollars a year, a president who treats the Constitution like so > >much toiletpaper, and an economy that is being hollowed out like a Halloween > >pumpkin, these Democrats are doing nothing. > > >Repeatedly offered chances to stand up and act, they have ducked each time > >instead. > > The Dems won't do anything to fix the administrations > mistakes and excesses - and neither will the Republicans > OR any of the Republican candidates (except maybe Ron > Paul, but he wouldn't get any help from either party). > > As for the Dems ... I think that they're secretly drooling > over that shredded constitution, envisioning all the ways > they can use the existing palette of extraordinary powers > to wreak revenge on the GOP and GOP interests plus hammer > through some of their favored social-engineering ideas. > > The "Patriot act" and related surveillance-state legislation > could be even more dangerous in DNC hands than in the GOPs > hands (to date). At least the GOP sees foreign devils > everywhere and tends to abuse its power persecuting them. > The enemies the Dems see ... not foreigners, but ye and me > and the guy next door too. > > In short, the entire slate of '08 presidental candidates > is LAME. It's like we've run out of real leader types > and have to play the 2nd-stringers. > > I'm still concerned that by convention-time, the most > noted 2nd-stringer, AlGore, will be drafted ... as > everyone realizes just HOW bad the other hopefuls are. > Al could win - not because he's "better", just because > he's "more famous" these days. He was an acceptable VP, > but not the guy I'd want behind the Big Desk where all > the bucks come to die. > > In a contest of lame-o's the "most famous" one is the > likely winner. We may get a DNC White House for no > better reason than that. > > Yea, yea Gandy ... I'm sure YOU think Al is a demigod ... > but he's not. Just another 2nd-string politician and all > that description implies. As I see it, no matter WHAT > the outcome of the '08 contest we're all screwed. > > And for '12 ... the 3rd-stringers, likely ... > > '16 ? Dunno. Maybe we'll be part of the Chinese Empire > by then ... Gore's 2000 campaign may not have reacted well to the media turning against him, but still, does that make him a second stringer? Outline why you think he's a "second stringer", I'm honestly curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zob95@yahoo.com Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 On Oct 25, 5:01 pm, zo...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Oct 25, 4:52 pm, b...@barrk.net (B1ackwater) wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:54:01 -0700, "Gandalf Grey" > > > <gandalfg...@infectedmail.com> wrote: > > >Dead Men and Women Walking > > > >By Dave Lindorff > > >Created Oct 24 2007 - 8:47am > > > >The Democratic Party in Congress, and indeed the leading candidates for the > > >party's presidential nomination, are all dead men and women walking. > > > >They look alive. They may even think they're alive. But their political > > >futures are close to moribund. > > > >Faced with grave moral issues--a criminal and unpopular war that is costing > > >the country the lives of thousands of its young people, and hundreds of > > >billions of dollars a year, a president who treats the Constitution like so > > >much toiletpaper, and an economy that is being hollowed out like a Halloween > > >pumpkin, these Democrats are doing nothing. > > > >Repeatedly offered chances to stand up and act, they have ducked each time > > >instead. > > > The Dems won't do anything to fix the administrations > > mistakes and excesses - and neither will the Republicans > > OR any of the Republican candidates (except maybe Ron > > Paul, but he wouldn't get any help from either party). > > > As for the Dems ... I think that they're secretly drooling > > over that shredded constitution, envisioning all the ways > > they can use the existing palette of extraordinary powers > > to wreak revenge on the GOP and GOP interests plus hammer > > through some of their favored social-engineering ideas. > > > The "Patriot act" and related surveillance-state legislation > > could be even more dangerous in DNC hands than in the GOPs > > hands (to date). At least the GOP sees foreign devils > > everywhere and tends to abuse its power persecuting them. > > The enemies the Dems see ... not foreigners, but ye and me > > and the guy next door too. > > > In short, the entire slate of '08 presidental candidates > > is LAME. It's like we've run out of real leader types > > and have to play the 2nd-stringers. > > > I'm still concerned that by convention-time, the most > > noted 2nd-stringer, AlGore, will be drafted ... as > > everyone realizes just HOW bad the other hopefuls are. > > Al could win - not because he's "better", just because > > he's "more famous" these days. He was an acceptable VP, > > but not the guy I'd want behind the Big Desk where all > > the bucks come to die. > > > In a contest of lame-o's the "most famous" one is the > > likely winner. We may get a DNC White House for no > > better reason than that. > > > Yea, yea Gandy ... I'm sure YOU think Al is a demigod ... > > but he's not. Just another 2nd-string politician and all > > that description implies. As I see it, no matter WHAT > > the outcome of the '08 contest we're all screwed. > > > And for '12 ... the 3rd-stringers, likely ... > > > '16 ? Dunno. Maybe we'll be part of the Chinese Empire > > by then ... > > Gore's 2000 campaign may not have reacted well to the media turning > against him, but still, does that make him a second stringer? Outline > why you think he's a "second stringer", I'm honestly curious. Still curious about the "Problem with Gore". Anyone care to step up? Let's skip the B.S. about inventing the internet, Love Story, Love Canal, earth tones, sighing reels, etc. etc. those are media inventions. What's wrong with Gore, in reference to his work as a politician / policymaker / bill author / leader. Is he too ~boring~? Oh dear. Too ~professorlike~? Perhaps he's just too ~awkward~? Let's cut to the chase. Is it because he's too ~smart~? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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