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I ws told to shorten my message but I urge you to protect your family from

real conspiracies. I at least told you and I am not happy having to tell you

but someone does. The things going on in America is not all good . So here

goes, I am sorry if it sounds too long and drawn out. I seriously believe

everything I write about with all my heart.

 

There are many conspiracies in the US based on power and control. One can

say power and control influences all societies in the positive and negative.

One needs to have very powerful allies ( armies often enought) to attain

power. How to maintain power and really promote freedom for everyone with

equal opportunities for everyone based on our Constitution is the US way or

was. If I am wrong I am sure to hear about it. In the rest of the world ,

there is no guarantees of freedoms and fairness and this is what makes or

made the US great. Now I am afraid, the freedom to control and abuse power

has been mandated by the way our elected politicians been elected to power,

basically by allot of money. If you need allot of money to come to power

your not going to represent all people fairly and while some people can get

elected thru hard work and little money most people can't . Politicias need

to be rich usually to be elected and so if you need to be rich or get

special interests to support you, power and government representation is not

for the average people its for the rich that need special rules in order

often to do the wrong things and maintain power and thats what has been

happening in our policies. Big business has been allowed to corrupt our

policies. Big business doesn't have to be bad but when you can't maintain

power unless you pay someone else off to influence special legislation , the

idea for and by the people is trashed in difference to who has the most

power.

Why has this been allowed to happened and what are the ramifications? News

corporations and tv news has been consolidated by fewer and fewer of the

same companies and people. The things that need to be examined are swept

under the rug so special interest and advertisers who of course have been

consoldiating for long time can only get their messages out if only because

they have more money and at the worse because the peoople who own the

stations might have a tendency to air only certain view points

Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We will

soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to all if

we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences.

People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are

forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford to

complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because after

all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people around

me complain about limited access and censureship now from our local abc

channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from

phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free message

boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who don't

trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for whatever

reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to

rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of

frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed how

frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show why I

am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of all

and everyone is given equal opportunity but its simply not happening

anymore. We live in an informational age so there are many contradictions

going on now about what is really happening and what is allowed to happen.

 

Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not told en

mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has

harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes now we

know more of the consequences and the changes while happening need to happen

faster to reverse global warming and keep people from being harmed from

pollution. News and tv of course can keep quiet about the damages in order

to collect payment from drug companies and asthma and nebulizer medication

companies instead of telling people why and if they are being harmed. Every

day in this life I am made to breathe moderate or worse particulate

pollution I have trouble breathing. I believe the only fact left that hasn't

been proving conclusively is if MODERATE doesn't mean in reality harmful. I

have trouble believing our government doesn't know of this damage and can't

do more to stop it instead of making more rules for the companies that emit

it to allow it to continue at least to the year 2020 or 2025 . Why do I have

to then search for studies to show harm from pollution and be the only one

to put some of the links together to show cause and effect. Are people going

to see my links or believe me over their government or leaders? Of course

not, yet that is what I am saying is happening . My air filter turns black

in 29 days and this is what people who get moderate pollution face and of

course even more ominous is also increasing illness much moret then people

who get clean air too. My contention is and please remember this for your

families, that people are being adversely harmed by breathing pollution the

closer they live and work to polluted and congest streets, malls, bus depots

and truck depots and in states and cities with few days of good air and or

with most pollution compared to people with good air . There is a huge

descrepency in health and lost savings that can be measured if they want to

.. One can though fill in the pieces with the links that I have from

pollution damage, that more or less shows harm in areas that have been

tested for pollution and its affects. Realize because of big business and

our energy companies who are often very rich, and influential all this is

not packaged together as being a major concern for danger from news and

business. Please remember your city doesn't have to get the most pollution

for you to be at risk because studies suggest and I am here to verify that,

by just breathing moderate pollution can be harmful as in particulate

pollution. Why this comparision of health based on pollution is not being

done or compared is one way not to inform people of their probable harm from

this. Yet the gov does put out the measurement of this pollution and other

sites judge the quality of air in different places. Whats sad is even when

one knows of the dangers some people can't afford to move , There are

already tens of thousands homeless and basically thats the only way I could

afford to move to clean air places. I will provide the links to some of the

dangers after this.

Now I will try to talk about big business and evolution of the stock market

which I believe causes many if not most average investors to lose

To cut to the chase, big companies have more ways to rape you because of

legislation that allows them to charge you interest if you don't pay your

credit card bills . I payed one bill on time every month and I still

eventually got a bill for 39 dollars for being one day late so help me God .

Of course I sent the bill days before the due date but eventually that don't

spell profits so they can claim they didn't get it in time and ruin your

credit by lying and making you pay for that. In addition with credit and

penalites one can be gouged by huge interest rates and penalty fees.

Oil prices and the dependency of such has contributed to more health bills

due to pollution and of course more expenses then most anything in our lives

combined., instead of mandating with alternatives sooner, and at least

protecting the people at most at risk we still have done precious little to

bring or mandate changes sooner. The free market system don't work and is

not protecting children or the planet from harm because big business has

unfair advantage to not bring forth these things sooner.

Now the evolution of the stock market and the possible manipulation who

have unfair advantage . Has this trading system always been this unfair ? I

dont know, this much I do know,

 

 

 

> Once your money shows up in stocks or a horse in a race, especially big

> money the less chance your stock or gamble will win. . over and over again

> you will lose and believe me often they know why after of course you lose.

> Its like a factory where they try to rationalize your losss after you

> already lost and they gained or right before. The streetcoms and market

> gurus have quotes always ready about broker comments to justify the loss.

> Someone says the industry is tanking or crop is rising prices and thus

> profit will suffer. Whats amazing these things like stocks tanking so fast

> in spite of terrific ratings for week after week prior to your investment

> tanking ...What makes the changing conditions happen where your investment

> loses so often? YOUR MONEY showing up ,, thats the golden rule in

> horseracing or in stocks. once it shows up the big boys find ways to go

> against your play.

In fact I bet you, you will lose much more

> then you will gain. Stocks have evolved.. to where your money shows up its

> played against.

>

>

> I found the exact theory in horse racing too but like who cares right?

> Look I try to explain in more detail below, but to be crude it all comes

> down to this: (stocks) They all go down relative to how many people

> invested

> and when. When the kitty ( pot) gets too saturated, its time to clean out

> the peoples investment no matter how good. sometimes its becauses insiders

> selling with good information and other times its because brokers know

> something you don't but often they don't have to even have a reason..they

> say stocks move for no particular reason when they don't have to give a

> reason Well don't believe it, believe this, once your big money shows up

> thats when the stocks start going opposite your play over and over again

> ..Thats the changing condition they talk about. This recent recession

> where the nasdaq went down more in two weeks then in two years in the up

> market. Why because its easier to take your money faster then slower.

This is not the first time the good stocks that were popular took a dive

that way remember early 2000?

>> coincidence when the markets tank they tank fast and take your money down

> wih it Its no accident when they go up and write about

> great movers, your stock is not the one they talk about you should have

> had. The stocks that skyrocket are always without your money in it just

> under the radar. I guarantee your uncle was not in it either. Gosh I just

> missed playing that one! lol why is that?

> Stocks are a bonafide ponzi scheme.. Why is that , because they can!

>

>> Please read and send to others before you invest in the markets

>> today.Please

>> send this to others please

>>

>> -----

>>I can ask people not to use BP and Scottrade and Sprint because these

>>people not only ripped me but never admitted it and some even lied.. but I

>>might not be able to prove it, but will anyone

>>>care? >>>

>>> We need election reform

>>>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family from more ways

>>>> to

>>>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the

>>>> big

>>>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers and

>>>> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape you,

>>>> without trying to sponser alternatives or fairer ways to act fast

>>>> enough

>>>> or strong enough. I

>>>> just got a bill from BP and they charged me 39 dollars after they claim

>>>> I

>>>> sent the payment one day late., It was actually sent days before due

>>>> date..

>>>> This is what big business is now allowed to do to you because they can

>>>> and politicians need them to get elected.

>>>> I

>>>> then after swearing all this happens ask people if they are surprised,

>>>> they can then get away at poisoning you and not tell you enmass? (via

>>>> pollution) so help me God.

>>> Business is good, if its fair, its horrible when Big

>>>> Business and people are allowed to honestly take advantage of

>>>> people.These scam artists think that they have a license to steal..

>>>> they

>>>> have no idea their greed will be judged by others someday.. There are

>>>> big differences between rich and poor that needs

>>>> to be addressed.

>> . ) Stock

>> brokers and online trade investors , market makers, short insiders

>> whatever you want to callthem often play against

>>>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once you

>>>> come

>>>> on line to watch porn (yeah this is the tradeoff people have to accept

>>>> sometimes lol )

>>>> and trade stocks that once your money show, they will take your money

>>>> or

>>>> go opposite you and they don't lose!. Your

>>>> money

>>>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find

>>>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it.. I honestly believe

>>>> in

>>>> the stock market and horse racing and maybe even in professional

>>>> sports,

>>>> people win when others capitalize on your play or investment. The thing

>>>> I

>>>> am protesting is the unfair advantage insiders and market makers ,

>>>> maybe

>>>> brokerages have to leverage against your big money. Its like they know

>>>>when your money shows up because the same people who bet against you

>>>>pump

>>>> the things they hope you invest in so they can bet against you and win

>>>> and rest assured they win and you lose most of the time.>>>> you

>>>> choose, they will find a reason to go against you seriously. They

>>>> have unfair inside knowledge to be used against your investment.

>> Take

>>>> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot , if

>>>> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated.! Even If

>>>> you

>>>> invested years before it was mandated you might have often lost too!

>>>> >>>> Can you make money ? I guess, I certainly have not and no one i

>>>> know has

>>>> . I don't know if this is how it use to be or its changes over the

>>>> years>>>> How popular and great is your stock? The more popular and the

>>>> more money

>>>> you

>>>> put in the more reasons the people in the markets can bet against you

>>>> and

>>>> you

>>>> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just

>>>> opposite

>>>> your positions!!!!

>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on the

>>>> conclusions I left below:

>>>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?

>>>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv

>>>>> ownership?

>>>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?

>>>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of

>>>>> the

>>>>> world?

>>>>> Do you see your stocks going up?

>>>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?

>>>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance

>>>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?

>> Do you see credit card companies and big business have a lock to ruin

>> your

>> credit and charge outrageous fees ? If they lie, how much time do you

>> have

>> to save every letter and transaction? And mark my words they will lie to

>> collect and steal from you because they can

>> Congress is now a group of people who basically make rules because

>> millionaires supported their wins in elections.

>>>>>>

>>>> >>

>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my opinion

>>>>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a

>>>>>>> reason

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in jobs (

>>>>>>> same

>>>>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was not in

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,

>>>>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker

>>>>>>> upgrades,

>>>>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it don't

>>>>>>> go

>>>>>>> up

>>>>>>> enough.. read on, The stock

>>>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually

>>>>>>> goes

>>>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for

>>>>>>> big

>>>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! . This

>>>>>>> post

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> got more email then any other.

>>>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com

>>>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.

>>>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is

>>>>>>> real

>>>>>>> links

>>>>>>> to real studies .

>>>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.

>>>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who

>>>>>>>>>>> invested

>>>>>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in

>>>>>>>>>>>> usually

>>>>>>>>>>>> go

>>>>>>>>>>>> down,

>>>>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it

>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>> go up ( as opposed to investing in short markets) . But it can

>>>>>>>>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.

>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have just

>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' be

>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows

>>>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip

>>>> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money shows

>>>> up.almost

>>>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring

>>>> it

>>>> back up when your no

>>>> longer

>>>> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (

>>>> usually when the least

>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say to

>>>> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast

>>>> after

>>>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or

>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.

>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to

>>>> vulnerable at higher prices and only they make the profits.. and just

>>>> start the process

>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market

>>>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade make out too be

>>>>cause of commissions. Don't ever

>>>>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade, thats just my opinion. I saw a stock in

>>>>>>>>>>>> real

>>>>>>>>>>>> time selling for

>>>>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price WITHIN

>>>>>>>>>>>> SECONDS IT was 11.54,,

>>>>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my

>>>>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68,

>>>>>>>>>>>> again.seconds later

>>>>>>>>>>>> Do

>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time

>>>>>>>>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they

>>>>>>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>>>> get away with it, is it legal? Why should it be? . then I

>>>>>>>>>>>> bought a stock in real time that was

>>>>>>>>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made

>>>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. Did I have to

>>>> buy ? no but I said to

>>>>>>>>>>>> myself its remotely possible the market price is honest but as

>>>>>>>>>>>> soon as I looked at real time

>>>>>>>>>>>> after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone raised

>>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a

>>>>>>>>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents seconds

>>>>>>>>>>>> later. They can say I didn't have to buy but I can say is it

>>>>>>>>>>>> legal to raise the price to whatever they can get after you

>>>>>>>>>>>> fill

>>>>>>>>>>>> out a market order/ maybe it is maybe its not, its surely not

>>>>>>>>>>>> ethical!

>>>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. This is in

>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get the traders. Never invest in

>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott

>>>>>>>>>>>> trade. but of course this in addition to other ways to get

>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>> money from big business.. Legal what? . Never ever

>>>> put a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out , the market

>>>> makers can swoop down and find a reason why the stock dropped so fast

>>>> and

>>>> bring it back up after the stock tanked to get your stop order . Never

>>>> ever day

>>>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best thing

>>>> is

>>>> to wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day traders

>>>> lose.!!!!! not because they made the wrong trade, they lose because

>>>> they

>>>> know what you bought and they know you are waiting for a gain fast..

>>>> The

>>>> market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or market

>>>> makers or brokers play

>>>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the

>>>> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to

>>>> be

>>>> played against!! . the human element is killing

>>>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the

>>>> wind...The

>>>> key questions are this if money market protect the value of the stocks

>>>> why should insiders and others gain from your lack of insight all the

>>>> time/? . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating the

>>>> stock

>>>> price

>>>> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went

>>>> for

>>>> however long they want

>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes this

>>>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built into

>>>> the

>>>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six months

>>>> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months ago

>>>> and

>>>> this is really true.in order to take your hard earned dollars, its like

>>>> a

>>>> ponzi scheme.

>>>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes

>>>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against Where

>>>> does

>>>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency recent

>>>> decision ( I

>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station owners

>>>> to

>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and

>>>> fewer

>>>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse

>>>> viewpoints.

>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view points.

>>>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality

>>>>>> They say or some say they ignore it because its not true. It is true

>>>>>> what

>>>>>> I am writing about, but don't lose your hard earned money to find

>>>>>> out.

>>>>>> Can you gain? Sure but it takes a special investor to gain with big

>>>>>> money. Now more contentions I make about how big gov and industry fix

>>>>>> things have unfair advantages

>>>>

>>>> violence and pollution is ignored in general elections and we have

>>>> basically come to expect thousands of victims with more and more people

>>>> studies to show the cost of harm from all this is in the billions. Can

>>>> we

>>>> do more to reduce crime/ Of course , do we/ of course not.

>>>>

>>>> . Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without your

>>>> knowledge, ( you know they show the stats of stocks you and your uncle

>>>> never had and you just happened to MISS! and say if you only bought

>>>> such

>>>> and such time) , then they talk which ones to get in now,, rarely

>>>> going

>>>> up

>>>> the same percentages if at all , but if you were to know which ones

>>>> the

>>>> most people put their money in I assure you the stock would stop going

>>>> up

>>>> as fast as the money showed up... almost a dead certain bet...and be

>>>> played against.. ..The ones that go up the most ...all just happen to

>>>> fall beneath the

>>>> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says

>>>> something.like

>>>> .."TILL Wall Street

>>>> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers

>>>> it... Why woulda stock stop going up

>>>> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the more

>>>> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of

>>>> course,

>>>> now

>>>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the

>>>> US.

>>>> The

>>>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as more

>>>> and

>>>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill

>>>> people and harms people yet many children and adults are not protected

>>>> from getting too much of this daily or informed of its dangers.

>>>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been made

>>>> to

>>>> show studies of such things yet millions of people arestill not told

>>>> how

>>>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would sooner

>>>> talk

>>>> about tummy tucks or depression in midwest then about real dangers

>>>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away with

>>>> it.

>>>> I

>>>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran this

>>>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here in

>>>> our

>>>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Thats the MOST

>>>> depressed

>>>> and most asthma,, totally ignored. Why because they can? and they can

>>>> sell ads for health care instead. Suffice to say when i showed links to

>>>> show harm here they ingored me as did the politicians.

>>>> They

>>>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going on

>>>> here

>>>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of

>>>> the

>>>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.

>>>> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me god.

>>>> Face

>>>> it

>>>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. The

>>>> media

>>>> would rather stay mum about oil and coal and deisel pollution kill

>>>> their own population but then sell

>>>>>>>>>>>> them

>>>>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only

>>>>>>>>>>>> knew

>>>>>>>>>>>> our

>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , or percentage of days we don't get clean

>>>>>>>>>>>> air

>>>>>>>>>>>> ( thats a number they don't have to do a study for they can

>>>>>>>>>>>> just

>>>>>>>>>>>> say we don't ge the most pollution so stop complaining)

>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us and

>>>> not

>>>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to be

>>>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better. but do nothing

>>>> immediate

>>>> to save people most at risk. its shameful. Trust me its happening

>>>> in

>>>> certain areas., its the Gods truth. Its ok to choke and be ignored if

>>>> tv

>>>> news can sell

>>>> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or

>>>>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area.. People say

>>>>>>>>>>>> write

>>>>>>>>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answer

>>>>>>>>>>>> ya..Thatsthe mentality of the meaness of society now. Of course

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>> >> ..They often totally ignore the reality I

>>>> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in general

>>>> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically

>>>> come

>>>> to

>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing

>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when

>>>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some

>>>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still

>>>> more still then most of the world but thats not

>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people

>>>> in the US

>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder

>>>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in

>>>>

>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't

>>>>>>>>>>>> care..

>>>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get

>>>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing

>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves

>>>>>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election

>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all

>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the

>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep

>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to

>>>>

>>>> $800

>>>> after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. If

>>>> a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a profit

>>>>>>>>>>>> on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging. In

>>>> american the rich and oil companies and brokers get to do it legally

>>>> and

>>>> they

>>>> get to do it daily . How in the hell can they then get more

>>>> legislation

>>>> to

>>>> keep getting more ways to

>>>> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also

>>>> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist

>>>> countries so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you

>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> consider yourself

>>>>>>>>>> lucky

>>>>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have

>>>>>>>>>> watched

>>>>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods.

>>>>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate

>>>>>>>>>> stocks

>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>> tells

>>>>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your

>>>>>>>>>> investment..its

>>>>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can

>>>>>>>>>> do

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>> Finally there are millions without jobs,

>>>> Big companies do away with more operators and use electronic answering

>>>> devices that seldom work. If after 20 minutes an operator does come on

>>>> they

>>>> hang up on you if your not there after waiting so long talking to a

>>>> machine

>>>> that seldome recognizes what you just said.what was the point in

>>>> calling

>>>> them? you know why many big businesses don't want to talk to you now

>>>> seriously in person, they don't want to talk about how they charged you

>>>> too much for whatever reason they can think of . The companies that

>>>> come

>>>> to mind are the credit card companies, telephone companies and stock

>>>> brokerages.

>>>> Why must people talk to a machine that seldom recognizes what the

>>>> caller

>>>> (us) is answering! Its amazing how many companies and gov. uses this to

>>>> keep

>>>> people on telephon foreever before someone live answers. Its not like

>>>> people can't do the same job better because they can! Why hire people

>>>> or

>>>> come to the phone, its easier to rip people off.

>>>> Easier to poison them and rip them off like in stocks!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>> there are people who get

>>>> commercial

>>>>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air every

>>>>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who

>>>>>>>>> get

>>>>>>>>> clean air., realize its really happening and I am one of the

>>>>>>>>> victims. To go to bed each night with constricted lungs is not

>>>>>>>>> something I can possibly make up and its based on the govs own air

>>>>>>>>> pollution rating system. Moderate is when my lungs constrict and

>>>>>>>>> other things happen negatively to people even according to many

>>>>>>>>> objective figures but its still called moderate. This kind of

>>>>>>>>> control and play on words is not defaulting to protecting people.

>>>>>>>>> .

>>>>>>>>> The largest

>>>> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The

>>>> peoplewho

>>>> ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded

>>>>>>>>> streets or malls

>>>> with much traffic or near truck depots and or bus depots and or

>>>> downwind

>>>> from coal have much more illness then

>>>> the people who live in clean air. but no one tells them these things.

>>>> .

>>>> there are people who can't afford food or health

>>>> care, yet we poison them even more by not immediately doing whatever it

>>>> takes to protect people. This is not like fast food, the harm done is

>>>> not

>>>> immediately seen but rest assured the harm done is REAL> . We bring

>>>> millions more people here who often need help also!!!

>>>> Often people hates one another and

>>>> only

>>>> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from

>>>> investors.. You

>>>>>>>>> pay

>>>>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often

>>>>>>>>> combined

>>>> while millions live in poverty.. so why you surprised?

>>>>>>>>> Remember this about stocks

>>>>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They

>>>>>>>>> literally

>>>>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your

>>>>>>>>>> likely

>>>>>>>>>> to sell.

>>>>>>> The republican role models and democrats

>>>>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror,

>>>>>>>> violent

>>>>>>>> crime, murder,

>>>>>>>> dependency on court

>>>>>>>> systems,hate, pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role

>>>>>>>> models

>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>> left

>>>>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the

>>>>>>>> people

>>>>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions.

>>>>>>>> Most

>>>>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and

>>>>>>>> yet

>>>>>>>> its

>>>>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs.

>>>>>>>> God help us

>>>>>>>> Are there agood things about US? yes but lets be honest what is

>>>>>>>> happening

>>>>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of

>>>>>>>> death

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work or

>>>>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW

>>>>>>>> wrestling as their role models. Social security

>>>> is going to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going

>>>> to

>>>> need it

>>>> to survive.

>>>> stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,

>>>>>>>>> immigration

>>>>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not

>>>>>>>>> politically

>>>>>>>>> correct), unemployment all virtually ignored by our politicians

>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that

>>>>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie

>>>>>>>>> stars,

>>>>>>>>> and the weather ,

>>>>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like

>>>>>>>>> robots,

>>>>>>>>> .Watch the old movie t=: Time machine and see how people don't

>>>>>>>>> care

>>>>>>>>> anymore in

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> future.. and they

>>>>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after

>>>>>>>>> you..Get

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our

>>>>>>>>> leaders

>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding

>>>>>>>>> cause

>>>>>>>>> they are use to it :Control Control Control control and this

>>>>>>>>> control filters to

>>>> even

>>>> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their

>>>>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.

>>>> Kids and their families are often treated like dirt because they need

>>>>>>>>> help and workers are not trained right or do what they want.. Some

>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>> very good though just so you know I am very objective ... so you

>>>>>>>>> see

>>>>>>>>> how abuse of control filters

>>>> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...and

>>>> end

>>>> up putting people at risk down? Do we have a system in place to help

>>>> people

>>>> at risk earlier? Or do we just let the kids join gangs and continue the

>>>> violent spin off?

>>>>

>>>> about stocks..

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> saw such set up and controls and

>>>>>> stocks go up and down so fast..In two weeks the Nasdaq went down as

>>>>>> much as it took a year ro two to ramp up. Why well of course they can

>>>>>> get your money fster that way!!! Make

>>>>>> no

>>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully?

>>>>>> Look

>>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate or the

>>>>>> best

>>>>>> mouse trap yu can make over others.

>>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like

>>>>>> crap.....We

>>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity

>>>>>> between

>>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a victim

>>>>>> thats

>>>>>> the price you

>>>>>> pay by being ignored. and not represented by Gov. We need election

>>>>>> reform badly.

>>>>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth

>>>>>>>>> fairy.

>>>>>>>>> The idea of

>>>>>>>>> tv

>>>>>>>>> and news

>>>>>>>>> is to get cute

>>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and

>>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and

>>>>>>>>> Jerry

>>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you

>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your

>>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>> out of

>>>>>>>>> state or another

>>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and

>>>>>>>>> big

>>>>>>>>> oil

>>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean

>>>>>>>>> spirited,

>>>>>>>>> WW

>>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,

>>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are

>>>>>>>>> taking

>>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.

>>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing

>>>>>>>>> people

>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>> love

>>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy I can't

>>>>>>>>> control

>>>>>>>>> or influence , and go to sleep

>>>>>>>>> at

>>>>>>>>> night without

>>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be

>>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not

>>>>>>>>> always

>>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. with no responses from politicians.

>>>>>>>>> Change might take place but its too slow and too late for many .

>>>>>>>>> Seriously the next biggest concern I

>>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>> besides crime is

>>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and

>>>>>>>>> transportation

>>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for

>>>>>>>>> years..

>>>>>>>>> Dr. Phil says I need to go out and find a job.. oh ok... Right, Go

>>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of

>>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They have

>>>>>>>>> no

>>>>>>>>> hope

>>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes

>>>>>>>>> close

>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these

>>>>>>>>> things.

>>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.

>>>>>>> cameras,

>>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and

>>>>>>> kids

>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>> identify

>>>>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Job Training! Do we empower

>>>>>>> kids

>>>>>>> to take back

>>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let

>>>>>>> gangs

>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>> control for

>>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> stay together? .is it fair to give ex criminals jobs over people who

>>>>>>> need training and never did crime?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> We should

>>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for

>>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. If I were to really describe real

>>>>>>> deterrents most people would rather see the expectation of 30

>>>>>>> thousand

>>>>>>> kids and women and men murdered each year at least instead of doing

>>>>>>> more to stop these criminals. Torture is when good people hear

>>>>>>> horrible

>>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on

>>>>>>> without

>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people

>>>>>>> murdered

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> shooting

>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on

>>>>>>> inspite

>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area, Fbi is making a database

>>>>>>> for dna.. how about doing that at birth? .Not one idea to do

>>>>>>> anything

>>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death

>>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their

>>>>>>> health

>>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing

>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>> life

>>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all

>>>>>>> that.

>>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have access

>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>> speak out.

>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. I

>>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab

>>>>>>>>>> production

>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for

>>>> it..Man Face it these countries we then give aid to have no obligation

>>>> to fight for peace or freedom without hate..

>> . when the same stations use the same stories over and over

>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more then

>>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea

>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting

>>>>>>>>>> bye

>>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,

>>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone else.

>>>>>>>>>> But

>>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or

>>>>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking more

>>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing the

>>>>>>>>>> right

>>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse

>>>>>>>>>> traps?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't

>>>>> keep

>>>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those who

>>>>> are

>>>>> not.

>>>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect families!

>>>>> so

>>>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal

>>>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the

>>>>> damages

>>>>> of

>>>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care

>>>>> about

>>>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with

>>>>> their

>>>>> life for decisions they had no power about? First never smoke, I did

>>>>> and

>>>>> this

>>>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced

>>>>> though,

>>>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the most

>>>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to examine

>>>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and where,

>>>>> and

>>>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that

>>>>> people

>>>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing their

>>>>> health,

>>>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much

>>>>> clean

>>>>> air

>>>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were compared to

>>>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had the

>>>>> same

>>>>> habits.

>>>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working on streets with

>>>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.I

>>>>> believe

>>>>> anyway..

>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>> People in the US are self destructing.

>>>>> mcsantpollution@yahoo.com

>>>>> Our role models have left us

>>>>> We take drug enhancement pills , kids come to school with guns, we

>>>>> have

>>>>> more

>>>>> murders then most of world including terrorist countries. Murder is

>>>>> the

>>>>> leading cause of death for women in the US in some age groups. Drug

>>>>> use

>>>>> is

>>>>> starting to increase. Many people are unemployed and not counted.

>>>>> Pollution

>>>>> numbers and descriptions from epa are not protecting people!

>>>>> .., rich get more rules

>>>>> to charge you interest. and keep distancing themselves from people who

>>>>> are

>>>>> poor. You have to be a millionaire to run for Senate or

>>>>> Congress almost. Oil prices have sabotaged business. News media

>>>>> consolidation ignores most everything important. while the world hates

>>>>> by

>>>>> religion and nothing is done about it,, and arming to the bones more

>>>>> ways

>>>>> to

>>>>> destroy each other..some of it is political and economics too but

>>>>> instead

>>>>> of

>>>>> dealing with it we ignore it. . the affects from pollution are

>>>>> horrific (some of you have

>>>>> no idea what day after day without good air does to you, ) We are

>>>>> destroying

>>>>> ourselves and the same people made to breathe it have to pay more to

>>>>> doctors

>>>>> to treat conditions they were not responsible for getting. You will

>>>>> see

>>>>> thousands of studies for different conditions that causes illness but

>>>>> few

>>>>> about pollution damage. The greatest conspiracy I have ever seen in my

>>>>> lifetimes. .What ,is going

>>>>> on here? help someone help. stocks are manipulated and allowed to be

>>>>> played

>>>>> against by insiders,. REMEMBER DON"T SMOKE EVER, .. and Its not how

>>>>> good a company is its how much of your

>>>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed to

>>>>> then

>>>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.

>>>>> http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view&current=filter2.jpg

>>>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered, being

>>>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down. How

>>>>> do

>>>>> I

>>>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday in it and when I am not in that

>>>>> type

>>>>> of air I don't have

>> constricted lungs.

>> My air filters turn

>> black in less then

>> 30 days

>> I >>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am

>> thinking

>>>>> there

>>>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not

>>>>> protected

>>>>> from refinery and industry pollution and auto exhausts and so many

>>>>> days

>>>>> without clean air.

>>>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this is

>>>>> like

>>>>> the twilightzone. so should we not complain when someone like me sees

>>>>> all this happening? Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. We are

>>>>> getting

>>>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for allergy

>>>>> and

>>>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business telling

>>>>> you

>>>>> why

>>>>> we need it. Please can we get investigators over here please. What is

>>>>> going

>>>>> on in the us now? what ? what is happening where we get more crime

>>>>> vandalism, and people not graduating.. and crime after crime! What is

>>>>> happening , what has happened in the past.? We need comparisons to

>>>>> people

>>>>> who get clean air. Please someone help..this is totally outrageous our

>>>>> kids

>>>>> are not being protected and we have so many negatives going on here.

>>>>> Please

>>>>> we need lawyers now , and

>>>>> investigators and researchers. Please this is unbelievable

>>>>> remember I told you so Our teams seldom win, American Idol was in

>>>>> Philly

>>>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon and California got the best

>>>>> reviews.

>>>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The

>>>>> negative

>>>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or schizophrenic

>>>>> surprised@) .

>>>>> If

>>>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to rest

>>>>> of

>>>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how harmed we

>>>>> have

>>>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. . I seriously

>>>>> think we need

>>>>> a

>>>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected the

>>>>> people here. The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to

>>>>> continue

>>>>> for

>>>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very

>>>>> depressed

>>>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and

>>>>> respiratory

>>>>> disease and its all ignored. God help --\

>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>> We

>>>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and

>>>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of

>>>>> gasoline,

>>>>> to

>>>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read on

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west

>>>>>>

>>>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and

>>>>>> cancer

>>>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path of

>>>>>> coal

>>>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city

>>>>>> prettty

>>>>>> much

>>>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about worsening

>>>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve

>>>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming ten

>>>>>> years.

>>>>>> ,

>>>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more violence,

>>>>>> (then

>>>>>> average) kids not learning, and horrible health ratings and ads to

>>>>>> target

>>>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because politicians

>>>>>> let

>>>>>> it

>>>>>> happen.

>>>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or cab

>>>>>> driver

>>>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50 also

>>>>>> looks

>>>>>> way older then his

>>>>>> years. and its a shame,, seems like a good guy At a certain point if

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> can

>>>>>> tell me how to do well in retiirement or

>>>>>> anyother way when we have the least percentage of days with good air

>>>>>> then

>>>>>> most big cities and number 2 in state for asthma and green house

>>>>>> pollution,,, . You would then not be surprised we are number one for

>>>>>> asthma

>>>>>> ,

>>>>>> respiratory disease, respiratory death and higher then normal in

>>>>>> cancers

>>>>>> heart disease and number one in nation for depression. We do horrible

>>>>>> in

>>>>>> education and we are one of the worse for violence .most of all your

>>>>>> not

>>>>>> told any of this by your newstations

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> when you ignore the number one city or two city with asthma and

>>>>>> respiratory

>>>>>> deaths and respiratory prescriptions and when you can compare our

>>>>>> number

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> health commercials with other cities and when your graphs also show

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> number of days we get good air in total to other communities then I

>>>>>> might

>>>>>> believe but I know what they are . For example one graph said Philly

>>>>>> had

>>>>>> 200

>>>>>> days of good air last year, which was totally outrageous lies. It may

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> reached good but many if not most of those days were in moderate zone

>>>>>> or

>>>>>> worse most of the time. . Thats one way of getting to say whatever

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> want

>>>>>> without showing the reality of the situation.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.

>>>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml

>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559

>>>>>>

>>>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.

>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc

>>>>>>

>>>>>> pollution and heart disease

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>> parituclate pollution dangers

>>>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature death,

>>>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the

>>>>>> California

>>>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25

>>>>>> minutes

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the

>>>>>> board

>>>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine

>>>>>> particles

>>>>>> can occur during a commute.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Southern

>>>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term exposure

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the

>>>>>> hardening

>>>>>> and narrowing of the arteries.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in

>>>>>> over

>>>>>> a

>>>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's not

>>>>>> like

>>>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months to

>>>>>> years."

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid

>>>>>> yourself;

>>>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007 report

>>>>>> by

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels during

>>>>>> commutes

>>>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented

>>>>>> diesel

>>>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars,

>>>>>> buses

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on

>>>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on

>>>>>> alternative

>>>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars

>>>>>> traveling

>>>>>> with little truck traffic

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm

>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dying For a Change -

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause: new

>>>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a

>>>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air

>>>>>> contributes

>>>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 percent of

>>>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to

>>>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to

>>>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,

>>>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to

>>>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people, or

>>>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere 2.5

>>>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the population

>>>>>> was

>>>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have serious

>>>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and these

>>>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the

>>>>>> incidence of diseases."

>>>>>>

>>>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007

>>>>>>

>>>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 Aug

>>>>>> 2007

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or caring

>>>>>> they

>>>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in

>>>>>> polluted

>>>>>> air

>>>>>> , or not worrying about their diet then worrying about a drugs and

>>>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give medical

>>>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that will

>>>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from the

>>>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The

>>>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is the

>>>>>> same

>>>>>> like diet and bad habits is the differences between people who live

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> work in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the most

>>>>>> time

>>>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and

>>>>>> live

>>>>>> near

>>>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone ot

>>>>>> lives

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the

>>>>>> pollution

>>>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the last

>>>>>> twenty

>>>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people who

>>>>>> get

>>>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly no

>>>>>> fault

>>>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in together in

>>>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to human

>>>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me

>>>>>> god.well

>>>>>> what

>>>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were born

>>>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I have

>>>>>> done

>>>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers of

>>>>>> pollution

>>>>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent ill

>>>>>> effects

>>>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to

>>>>>> lessen

>>>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world? I had to scream every day and

>>>>>> tell

>>>>>> people I can't breathe which I couldn't before someone did some

>>>>>> things

>>>>>> but

>>>>>> the percentage of time people get good air is still too few. That

>>>>>> wouldn't

>>>>>> be so bad had it not been the case they are cheated out of good

>>>>>> health

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> still are and not told. Why should I care If they don't? It says the

>>>>>> world

>>>>>> is a very depressing place to live if we default to harming people

>>>>>> and

>>>>>> when

>>>>>> people complain , make a timeline for 2020 to fix it while the people

>>>>>> who

>>>>>> profit by it get to keep doing it. . what kind of role models do we

>>>>>> get

>>>>>> for

>>>>>> allowing this to happen. I am saying people in PHilly and pa are

>>>>>> being

>>>>>> allowed to lose their health for no good reason when so much more can

>>>>>> be

>>>>>> done now. ( also in many other areas close to pollution and on east

>>>>>> coast.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Ps I say to all Israelis get out of Israel now, your going to be

>>>>>>destroyed,

>>>>>>I sense it and feel it and with all the craziness and arming in the

>>>>>>world

>>>>>>its not if , its when. The people in the world are insane and can't

>>>>>>seem

>>>>>>to

>>>>>>get along with each other, and ignores many things to justify power.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>> pposite your big money!

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>> "ftds" <ftds@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:FsPjj.11261$sA6.1546@trndny08...

>>> to lose most of the gains

>>> "> nothing like all or nothing by the market scammers, It took just two

>>> or

>>>> three weeks for years of stocks gains ( many times up after investors

>>>> left) to be lost.. a coincidence? NOT

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>> From: "estalavi" <estaviv@yahoo.com>

>>>> Newsgroups:

>>>> sci.environment,alt.business,pa.politics,phl.media,md.general

>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:17 AM

>>>> Subject: Lung Cancer ,Stock Fraud and Truth in life

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family for more ways

>>>>> to

>>>>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the

>>>>> big

>>>>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers and

>>>>> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape you,

>>>>> without trying to sponser alternatives fast enough or strong enough.

>>>>> If

>>>>> it

>>>>> stopped there that would be one thing. Knowing the news stations keep

>>>>> consolidating also shows the intent of rich getting richer and

>>>>> anything

>>>>> is

>>>>> possible. For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not

>>>>> protecting people from harm from pollution. Some places more affected

>>>>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of the

>>>>> air

>>>>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer, rarely

>>>>> are

>>>>> they studies based on pollution numbers although they could if they

>>>>> wanted

>>>>> to show harm. Stock brokers and online trade investors often play

>>>>> against

>>>>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once you

>>>>> come

>>>>> on line to watch porn and trade stocks they will take your money. Its

>>>>> like a

>>>>> golden rule to them and don't think they can't know your investment

>>>>> history

>>>>> or how likely you will buy and sell ..aka go opposite your play. Your

>>>>> money

>>>>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find

>>>>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it. The willful

>>>>> evolution

>>>>> of

>>>>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your

>>>>> big

>>>>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions)

>>>>> and

>>>>> market makers. Seriously it don't matter how good a stock is.. the

>>>>> people

>>>>> in

>>>>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your play

>>>>> if

>>>>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse ,

>>>>> who

>>>>> said stocks are reasonable? Even me when I say not to put a stop

>>>>> order

>>>>> in for the last five weeks the stocks go down so fast where one of the

>>>>> few times in history a stop order might be needed. Its like whatever

>>>>> option you choose, they will find a reason to go against you

>>>>> seriously.

>>>>> Take going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost

>>>>> allot

>>>>> ,

>>>>> if you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated.! The

>>>>> companies whose crop prices are blamed its going up to fast so they

>>>>> lost

>>>>> value too. The only plays that win are the stock companies and

>>>>> insiders

>>>>> who know when to buy after you lose.. Read more about this later. so

>>>>> lies, taking

>>>>> your money and poisoning people in the US is going full blast.. so

>>>>> help

>>>>> me

>>>>> god , some of course more then others.

>>>>> the most unbelievable destruction of values that is going on in the

>>>>> market

>>>>> and in daily life continues and

>>>>> is ignored.

>>>>> this is just my opinion

>>>>>

>>>>> How popular and great is your stock? The more popular and the more

>>>>> money

>>>>> you

>>>>> put in the more reasons the scum in the markets can bet against you

>>>>> and

>>>>> you

>>>>> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just

>>>>> opposite

>>>>> your positions!!!!

>>>>>

>>>>> Please read the whole long post and send it to many people.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on

>>>>> the

>>>>> conclusions I left below:

>>>>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?

>>>>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv

>>>>>> ownership?

>>>>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?

>>>>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> world?

>>>>>> Do you see your stocks going up?

>>>>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?

>>>>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance

>>>>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>--------------------------------

>>>>>

>>>>> ----- ,tx.politics

>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM

>>>>> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my opinion

>>>>>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a

>>>>>>>> reason

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in jobs (

>>>>>>>> same

>>>>>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was not in

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,

>>>>>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker

>>>>>>>> upgrades,

>>>>>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it don't

>>>>>>>> go

>>>>>>>> up

>>>>>>>> enough.. read on, The stock

>>>>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually

>>>>>>>> goes

>>>>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for

>>>>>>>> big

>>>>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! . This

>>>>>>>> post

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> got more email then any other.

>>>>>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com

>>>>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.

>>>>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is

>>>>>>>> real

>>>>>>>> links

>>>>>>>> to real studies .

>>>>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.

>>>>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who

>>>>>>>>>>>> invested

>>>>>>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually

>>>>>>>>>>>>> go

>>>>>>>>>>>>> down,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> go up ( as opposed to investing in short markets) . But it can

>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.

>>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have just

>>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' be

>>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows

>>>>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip

>>>>> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money

>>>>> shows

>>>>> up.almost

>>>>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring

>>>>> it

>>>>> back up when your no

>>>>> longer

>>>>> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (

>>>>> usually when the least

>>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say to

>>>>> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast

>>>>> after

>>>>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or

>>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.

>>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to

>>>>> vulnerable

>>>>> and only they make the profits.. and just start the process

>>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market

>>>>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade make out too

>>>>> be

>>>>> commissions. Don't ever

>>>>>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade, thats just my opinion. I saw a stock in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> real

>>>>>>>>>>>>> time selling for

>>>>>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price WITHIN

>>>>>>>>>>>>> SECONDS IT was 11.54,,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out

>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> again.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time

>>>>>>>>>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they

>>>>>>>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>>>>> get away with it. then I bought a stock in real time that

>>>>>>>>>>>>> was

>>>>>>>>>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made

>>>>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I said to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself its remotely possible but as soon as I looked at real

>>>>>>>>>>>>> time

>>>>>>>>>>>>> after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone raised

>>>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a

>>>>>>>>>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents seconds

>>>>>>>>>>>>> later

>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. This is in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get the traders. Never invest in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott

>>>>>>>>>>>>> trade. but of course this in addition to other ways to get

>>>>>>>>>>>>> your

>>>>>>>>>>>>> money and this is legal? lol Legal what? . Never ever

>>>>> put a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out . Never ever

>>>>> day

>>>>> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best thing

>>>>> is

>>>>> to wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day

>>>>> traders

>>>>> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or

>>>>> market

>>>>> makers or brokers play

>>>>> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the

>>>>> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to

>>>>> be

>>>>> played against!! . the human element is killing

>>>>> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the wind...

>>>>> . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating the stock

>>>>> price

>>>>> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went

>>>>> for

>>>>> however long they want

>>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes

>>>>> this

>>>>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built into

>>>>> the

>>>>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six

>>>>> months

>>>>> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months ago

>>>>> and

>>>>> this is really true.

>>>>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes

>>>>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against

>>>>> Where

>>>>> does

>>>>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency

>>>>> recent

>>>>> decision ( I

>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station owners

>>>>> to

>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and

>>>>> fewer

>>>>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse

>>>>> viewpoints.

>>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view points.

>>>>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality = write about here.

>>>>>>> They say or some say they ignore it because its not true. It is true

>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>> I am writing about, but don't lose your hard earned money to find

>>>>>>> out.

>>>>>>> Can you gain? Sure but it takes a special investor to gain with big

>>>>>>> money. Now more contentions I make about how big gov and industry

>>>>>>> fix

>>>>>>> things have unfair advantages

>>>>>

>>>>> violence and pollution is ignored in general elections and we have

>>>>> basically come to expect thousands of victims with more and more

>>>>> people

>>>>> studies to show the cost of harm from all this

>>>>>

>>>>> . Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without your

>>>>> knowledge, ( you know they show the stats of stocks you and your

>>>>> uncle

>>>>> never had and you just happened to MISS! and say if you only bought

>>>>> such

>>>>> and such time) , then they talk which ones to get in now,, rarely

>>>>> going

>>>>> up

>>>>> the same percentages if at all , but if you were to know which ones

>>>>> the

>>>>> most people put their money in I assure you the stock would stop going

>>>>> up

>>>>> that fast almost a dead certain bet...and be played against.. as the

>>>>> ..The ones that go up the most ...all just happen to fall beneath the

>>>>> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says

>>>>> something.like

>>>>> .."TILL Wall Street

>>>>> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers

>>>>> it... Why woulda stock stop going up

>>>>> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the more

>>>>> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of

>>>>> course,

>>>>> now

>>>>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the

>>>>> US.

>>>>> The

>>>>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as

>>>>> more

>>>>> and

>>>>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill

>>>>> people.

>>>>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been

>>>>> made

>>>>> to

>>>>> show studies of such things yet millions of people are not told how

>>>>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would sooner

>>>>> talk

>>>>> about bad spinanch in Canada or out west then talk about real dangers

>>>>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away with

>>>>> it. I

>>>>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran

>>>>> this

>>>>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here in

>>>>> our

>>>>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Why because they can?

>>>>> They

>>>>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going on

>>>>> here

>>>>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of

>>>>> the

>>>>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.

>>>>> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me god.

>>>>> Face

>>>>> it

>>>>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. The

>>>>> media

>>>>> would rather sell oil and kill their own population but then sell

>>>>>>>>>>>>> them

>>>>>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only

>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew

>>>>>>>>>>>>> our

>>>>>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , or percentage of days we don't get clean

>>>>>>>>>>>>> air

>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( thats a number they don't have to do a study for they can

>>>>>>>>>>>>> just

>>>>>>>>>>>>> say we don't ge the most pollution so stop complaining)

>>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us and

>>>>> not

>>>>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to be

>>>>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better.. Trust me its

>>>>> happening

>>>>> in

>>>>> certain areas., its the Gods truth. Its ok to choke and be ignored if

>>>>> tv

>>>>> news can sell

>>>>> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or

>>>>>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area.. People say

>>>>>>>>>>>>> write

>>>>>>>>>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answer

>>>>>>>>>>>>> ya..Thatsthe mentality of the meaness of society now. Of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> course

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I write

>>>>> about to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision ( I

>>>>> think

>>>>> the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that allows Tv station owners

>>>>> to

>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and

>>>>> fewer

>>>>> different owners, and less different perspectives of freedom of

>>>>> diverse

>>>>> viewpoints.=and objectivity.

>>>>> ..They often totally ignore the reality I

>>>>> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in general

>>>>> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically

>>>>> come

>>>>> to

>>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing

>>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when

>>>>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some

>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still

>>>>> more still then most of the world but thats not

>>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people

>>>>> in the US

>>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder

>>>>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in

>>>>>

>>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't

>>>>>>>>>>>>> care..

>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get

>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing

>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves

>>>>>>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election

>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all

>>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the

>>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep

>>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to

>>>>>

>>>>> $800

>>>>> after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. If

>>>>> a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a profit

>>>>>>>>>>>>> on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging. In

>>>>> american the rich and oil companies and brokers get to do it legally

>>>>> and

>>>>> they

>>>>> get to do it daily . How in the hell can they then get more

>>>>> legislation

>>>>> to

>>>>> keep getting more ways to

>>>>> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also

>>>>> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist

>>>>> countries so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our

>>>>> press

>>>>>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that awkward time when

>>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too early to drag

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot.

>>>>>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you consider

>>>>>>>>>>> yourself

>>>>>>>>>>> lucky

>>>>>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have

>>>>>>>>>>> watched

>>>>>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods.

>>>>>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate

>>>>>>>>>>> stocks

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>> tells

>>>>>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your

>>>>>>>>>>> investment..its

>>>>>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can

>>>>>>>>>>> do

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>> Finally there are millions without jobs,

>>>>> Big companies do away with more operators and use electronic answering

>>>>> devices that seldom work. If after 20 minutes an operator does come on

>>>>> they

>>>>> hang up on you if your not there after waiting so long talking to a

>>>>> machine

>>>>> that seldome recognizes what you just said.

>>>>> Why must people talk to a machine that seldom recognizes what the

>>>>> caller

>>>>> (us) is answering! Its amazing how many companies and gov. uses this

>>>>> to

>>>>> keep

>>>>> people on telephon foreever before someone live answers. Its not like

>>>>> people can't do the same job better because they can! Why hire

>>>>> people?

>>>>> Easier to poison them and rip them off like in stocks!

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> there are people who get

>>>>> commercial

>>>>>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air

>>>>>> every

>>>>>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who

>>>>>>>>>> get

>>>>>>>>>> clean air. . The largest

>>>>> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The

>>>>> peoplewho

>>>>> ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded

>>>>>>>>>> streets or malls

>>>>> with much traffic or near truck depots and or bus depots and or

>>>>> downwind

>>>>> from coal have much more illness then

>>>>> the people who live in clean air. but no one tells them these things.

>>>>> .

>>>>> there are people who can't afford food or health

>>>>> care, yet we bring millions more people here who often need help

>>>>> also!!!

>>>>> Everybody hates one another and

>>>>> only

>>>>> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from

>>>>> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its

>>>>>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional investigation.

>>>>>>>>>> You

>>>>>>>>>> pay

>>>>>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often

>>>>>>>>>> combined

>>>>> while millions live in poverty.. so why you surprised?

>>>>>>>>>> Remember this about stocks

>>>>>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They

>>>>>>>>>> literally

>>>>>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your

>>>>>>>>>>> likely

>>>>>>>>>>> to sell.

>>>>>>>> The republican role models and democrats

>>>>>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror,

>>>>>>>>> violent

>>>>>>>>> crime, murder,

>>>>>>>>> dependency on court

>>>>>>>>> systems,hate, pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role

>>>>>>>>> models

>>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>> left

>>>>>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the

>>>>>>>>> people

>>>>>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions.

>>>>>>>>> Most

>>>>>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and

>>>>>>>>> yet

>>>>>>>>> its

>>>>>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs.

>>>>>>>>> God help us

>>>>>>>>> Are there agood things about US? yes but lets be honest what is

>>>>>>>>> happening

>>>>>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of

>>>>>>>>> death

>>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work or

>>>>>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW

>>>>>>>>> wrestling as their role models. Social security

>>>>> is going to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going

>>>>> to

>>>>> need it

>>>>> to survive.

>>>>> stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,

>>>>>>>>>> immigration

>>>>>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not

>>>>>>>>>> politically

>>>>>>>>>> correct), unemployment all virtually ignored by our politicians

>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that

>>>>>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie

>>>>>>>>>> stars,

>>>>>>>>>> and the weather ,

>>>>>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like

>>>>>>>>>> robots,

>>>>>>>>>> see

>>>>>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't care anymore

>>>>>>>>>> in

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> future.. and they

>>>>>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after

>>>>>>>>>> you..Get

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our

>>>>>>>>>> leaders

>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding

>>>>>>>>>> cause

>>>>>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this control filters

>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>> even

>>>>> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their

>>>>>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.

>>>>> Kids and their families are often treated like dirt because they need

>>>>>>>>>> help and workers are not trained right or do what they want..

>>>>>>>>>> Some

>>>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>> very good though just so you know I am very objective ... so you

>>>>>>>>>> see

>>>>>>>>>> how abuse of control filters

>>>>> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...and

>>>>> end

>>>>> up putting people at risk down? Do we have a system in place to help

>>>>> people

>>>>> at risk earlier? Or do we just let the kids join gangs and continue

>>>>> the

>>>>> violent spin off?

>>>>>

>>>>> about stocks..

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> saw such set up and controls and

>>>>>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make

>>>>>>> no

>>>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully?

>>>>>>> Look

>>>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over

>>>>>>> others.

>>>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like

>>>>>>> crap.....We

>>>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity

>>>>>>> between

>>>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. >>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth

>>>>>>>>>> fairy.

>>>>>>>>>> The idea of

>>>>>>>>>> tv

>>>>>>>>>> and news

>>>>>>>>>> is to get cute

>>>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and

>>>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and

>>>>>>>>>> Jerry

>>>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you

>>>>>>>>>> will

>>>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your

>>>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>>> out of

>>>>>>>>>> state or another

>>>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and

>>>>>>>>>> big

>>>>>>>>>> oil

>>>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean

>>>>>>>>>> spirited,

>>>>>>>>>> WW

>>>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,

>>>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are

>>>>>>>>>> taking

>>>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.

>>>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing

>>>>>>>>>> people

>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>> love

>>>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy , and go to

>>>>>>>>>> sleep

>>>>>>>>>> at

>>>>>>>>>> night without

>>>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be

>>>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not

>>>>>>>>>> always

>>>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next biggest

>>>>>>>>>> concern

>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>> besides crime is

>>>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and

>>>>>>>>>> transportation

>>>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for

>>>>>>>>>> years.

>>>>>>>>>> Go

>>>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of

>>>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They

>>>>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>>>>> no

>>>>>>>>>> hope

>>>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes

>>>>>>>>>> close

>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these

>>>>>>>>>> things.

>>>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.

>>>>>>>> cameras,

>>>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and

>>>>>>>> kids

>>>>>>>> can

>>>>>>>> identify

>>>>>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take

>>>>>>>> back

>>>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let

>>>>>>>> gangs

>>>>>>>> take

>>>>>>>> control for

>>>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> stay together? . >>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> We should

>>>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for

>>>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people hear

>>>>>>>> horrible

>>>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on

>>>>>>>> without

>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people

>>>>>>>> murdered

>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>> shooting

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on

>>>>>>>> inspite

>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do

>>>>>>>> anything

>>>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death

>>>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their

>>>>>>>> health

>>>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing

>>>>>>>> their

>>>>>>>> life

>>>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all

>>>>>>>> that.

>>>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have

>>>>>>>> access

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> speak out.

>>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. I

>>>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab

>>>>>>>>>>> production

>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for

>>>>> it..Man Face it when the same stations use the same stories over and

>>>>> over

>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more

>>>>>>>>>>>>> then

>>>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea

>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting

>>>>>>>>>>> bye

>>>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,

>>>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone

>>>>>>>>>>> else.

>>>>>>>>>>> But

>>>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or

>>>>>>>>>>> depression

>>>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking more

>>>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing the

>>>>>>>>>>> right

>>>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse

>>>>>>>>>>> traps?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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> I ws told to shorten my message

 

Yeh, and it looks like you didn't take that advise.

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