Euro Election Watchdogs Boycott Russian Presidential Race

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Europe's main election watchdog has said it will boycott Russia's
presidential election on 2 March.

"We regret that circumstances prevent us from observing this
election," said Spencer Oliver, general secretary of the OSCE's
Parliamentary Assembly.

The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has
been arguing with Russia over the size and scope of the observers'
mission.

The watchdog rejected concessions by Moscow aimed at averting a
boycott.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said no self-respecting
country would bow to ultimatums of the kind set by the OSCE.

'Limitations'

The OSCE's parliamentary assembly announced its decision in a letter
sent to the Russian parliament.

"We unfortunately cannot accept your invitation to send a limited
number of observers to Russia for the presidential election," assembly
President Goran Lennmarker said in the letter.

Mr Lennmarker also mentioned "other conditions and circumstances",
without specifying.

Separately, the OSCE's election monitoring wing - the Office for
Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) - said it would not
send observers because of "limitations" imposed by Moscow.

The ODIHR and Russia's election commission have been involved in a row
over the size and time schedule of the observers' mission.

The ODIHR on Wednesday rejected a commission offer designed to avert a
boycott. Russia said it would allow ODIHR observers to arrive on 20
February - a week earlier than Moscow had originally wanted.

The commission also accepted an increase in the number of monitors,
from 70 to 75.

But the ODIHR said the offer did not go far enough, insisting on 15
February as the start date.

The monitors had argued that arriving just three days before the vote
would mean they could not monitor the election campaign to see if it
was free and fair for all candidates, including their access to
Russia's media.

The European Union's Slovene presidency said it regretted that due to
Russia's restrictions ODIHR "was put in a situation where it found it
impossible to execute its mandate and cancelled the election
observation mission".

It also expressed "its full support to the election observation
activities of the ODIHR".

- - - - -

OK ... put yer money down ... just how soon WILL it
be before he's just crowned "Czar Vladimir the First" ?

So much for 'democracy' in Russia.

Hey, maybe "W" can transfer a few advisors from
Afganistan to teach 'em how it's done :)

Is it just something in the Russian psychology that
makes any sembance of democracy impossible to sustain ?
The public seems to adore 'strong man' figures ... and
is willing to overlook the often violent excesses of
such individiduals. Even the paranoid mass-murdering
Stalin still has many fans even though it's clear he
killed as many Russians as the NAZI armies did. If
Pol Pot was Russian, they'd have appointed him Czar.

Russian politicians all jockey to become top dog
and form tight oligarchies around the winner. Any
outside that circle are just ornaments, 'for
appearances'. Even the Soviet regimes liked to
maintain the appearance of 'democracy' - even
though Russians and outsiders alike knew it was
a total lie.

Now we're not talking some 4th-world 'Stan or tribal
'state' here, but a top-notch 1st-world superpower
with a highly-educated population. There's no question
that they understand 'democracy' perfectly well and
can see it's benifits (and problems) in other nations.
Yet, even given the best of opportunities, Russians
shy away from 'democracy' and rapidly gravitate back
towards some incarnation of the Czars.

So, we can bet that shortly after this "election"
we'll see Putins proxy step down for some fabricated
reason and watch Putin re-emerge as the official
alpha dog. He already has his agents out on the
streets stirring-up hatred for both his internal
opposition and "Imperial America" - paranoia and
xenophobia worked well for Stalin after all - so
once Putin officially regains his station he'll
be there for life.

Expect his enemies - political, ideological and
free-media - to drop like flies. The science ministry
will have to commission a special new batch of polonium
just to keep pace with Putins needs. 'Traitors' and
'spies' will be tracked-down and exterminated, even
if they escape to the west. Iran may issue religious
death-warrants by the dozen, but Russia has the power
and reach to enforce its warrants anywhere in the
world. Get on Putins bad side and you wouldn't be
safe if you were living on Mars.

On the 'plus' side, Putins xenophobic tactics mean
a new 'cold war' of sorts. US military contractors
and generals will be thrilled at the prospect of
a 'worthy adversary' once again.

Russia is also getting cozy with China again, and
waving its newly-exploited oil under Chinas nose as
encouragement. This means a larger military threat
AND a potential impediment to US/Chinese commerce.

Remember all the money we THOUGHT we'd save by
getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan ? Forget it ...
it's going to go straight into new military hardware
whether the next prez is DNC or GOP. We'll need
a terabucks worth of new aircraft carriers, missile
cruisers, next-gen fighter planes, rockets, field
weaponry, robots, satellites, tanks, etc, etc, etc.
and we'd better add an extra couple thousand nukes
to the aresenal while we're at it. "Cold-War II"
means the good times are BACK for military contractors.
FINALLY a foe we'd NEED cutting-edge, hyper-expensive,
technology to defend against !
 
In article <47aaebf5.2632937@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net
says...
> BBC
> Europe's main election watchdog has said it will boycott Russia's
> presidential election on 2 March.
>
> "We regret that circumstances prevent us from observing this
> election," said Spencer Oliver, general secretary of the OSCE's
> Parliamentary Assembly.
>
> The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has
> been arguing with Russia over the size and scope of the observers'
> mission.
>
> The watchdog rejected concessions by Moscow aimed at averting a
> boycott.
>
> Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said no self-respecting
> country would bow to ultimatums of the kind set by the OSCE.
>
> 'Limitations'
>
> The OSCE's parliamentary assembly announced its decision in a letter
> sent to the Russian parliament.
>
> "We unfortunately cannot accept your invitation to send a limited
> number of observers to Russia for the presidential election," assembly
> President Goran Lennmarker said in the letter.
>
> Mr Lennmarker also mentioned "other conditions and circumstances",
> without specifying.
>
> Separately, the OSCE's election monitoring wing - the Office for
> Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) - said it would not
> send observers because of "limitations" imposed by Moscow.
>
> The ODIHR and Russia's election commission have been involved in a row
> over the size and time schedule of the observers' mission.
>
> The ODIHR on Wednesday rejected a commission offer designed to avert a
> boycott. Russia said it would allow ODIHR observers to arrive on 20
> February - a week earlier than Moscow had originally wanted.
>
> The commission also accepted an increase in the number of monitors,
> from 70 to 75.
>
> But the ODIHR said the offer did not go far enough, insisting on 15
> February as the start date.
>
> The monitors had argued that arriving just three days before the vote
> would mean they could not monitor the election campaign to see if it
> was free and fair for all candidates, including their access to
> Russia's media.
>
> The European Union's Slovene presidency said it regretted that due to
> Russia's restrictions ODIHR "was put in a situation where it found it
> impossible to execute its mandate and cancelled the election
> observation mission".
>
> It also expressed "its full support to the election observation
> activities of the ODIHR".
>
> - - - - -
>
> OK ... put yer money down ... just how soon WILL it
> be before he's just crowned "Czar Vladimir the First" ?
>
> So much for 'democracy' in Russia.
>
> Hey, maybe "W" can transfer a few advisors from
> Afganistan to teach 'em how it's done :)
>
> Is it just something in the Russian psychology that
> makes any sembance of democracy impossible to sustain ?
> The public seems to adore 'strong man' figures ... and
> is willing to overlook the often violent excesses of
> such individiduals. Even the paranoid mass-murdering
> Stalin still has many fans even though it's clear he
> killed as many Russians as the NAZI armies did. If
> Pol Pot was Russian, they'd have appointed him Czar.
>
> Russian politicians all jockey to become top dog
> and form tight oligarchies around the winner. Any
> outside that circle are just ornaments, 'for
> appearances'. Even the Soviet regimes liked to
> maintain the appearance of 'democracy' - even
> though Russians and outsiders alike knew it was
> a total lie.
>
> Now we're not talking some 4th-world 'Stan or tribal
> 'state' here, but a top-notch 1st-world superpower
> with a highly-educated population. There's no question
> that they understand 'democracy' perfectly well and
> can see it's benifits (and problems) in other nations.
> Yet, even given the best of opportunities, Russians
> shy away from 'democracy' and rapidly gravitate back
> towards some incarnation of the Czars.
>
> So, we can bet that shortly after this "election"
> we'll see Putins proxy step down for some fabricated
> reason and watch Putin re-emerge as the official
> alpha dog. He already has his agents out on the
> streets stirring-up hatred for both his internal
> opposition and "Imperial America" - paranoia and
> xenophobia worked well for Stalin after all - so
> once Putin officially regains his station he'll
> be there for life.
>
> Expect his enemies - political, ideological and
> free-media - to drop like flies. The science ministry
> will have to commission a special new batch of polonium
> just to keep pace with Putins needs.


Putin has done quite a bit of good for Russia. He helped make it
possible to jail at least one of the big-time oligarchs (Khodorovsky)
who bought up Soviet assets at fire sale prices after the collapse, and
that sends a signal to would be looters. That's a good thing, I think.
He's also presiding over a big economic boom due to Russia's
reserves of oil and natural gas, and is using some of that to rebuild
the Russian armed forces, which also needed very much to happen.
Lastly for this part, I don't believe for one second that Putin
had anything to do with the murder of the reporter with Polonium. I
think pretty much what Pat Buchanan thought of it; that it was a setup
job from the word go. There's more to this than what you've heard, by
the way. The reporter who was poisoned with Polonium ran an article
stating that Putin was a pervert who liked little boys, citing as
evidence the fact that Putin had kissed a Russian boy on the belly.
That's probably some kind of Russian tradition. So then the guy gets a
belly-load of Polonium? Please. If Putin had wanted him killed he
wouldn't have to send a message with it. That would be just begging the
gossipmongers to blame him. The man was a ranking KGB officer, and is
not stupid. That means it was a setup, plain and simple, as far as I'm
concerned.

> 'Traitors' and
> 'spies' will be tracked-down and exterminated, even
> if they escape to the west. Iran may issue religious
> death-warrants by the dozen, but Russia has the power
> and reach to enforce its warrants anywhere in the
> world. Get on Putins bad side and you wouldn't be
> safe if you were living on Mars.
>
> On the 'plus' side, Putins xenophobic tactics mean
> a new 'cold war' of sorts. US military contractors
> and generals will be thrilled at the prospect of
> a 'worthy adversary' once again.


They already have one; it's called the European Union, which is
doing everything it can to support America's enemies in the Middle East,
and become the economic number one by any means possible. The problem is
that no one in the US with any kind of political authority seems to be
acknowledging this.
By the way, Russia would make a far better ally of the US than the
Europeans would, and despite Bush's insistence on using the phrase
"...our European allies", the US doesn't actually have many, if any in
Western Europe.

>
> Russia is also getting cozy with China again, and
> waving its newly-exploited oil under Chinas nose as
> encouragement. This means a larger military threat
> AND a potential impediment to US/Chinese commerce.
>


The only reason the Russians were interested in getting cozy with
China is because of the "We can do whatever we want" attitude coming
from the US. Russia is a natural ally, and there's not a hell of a lot
of difference in the European mindset now from the Nazis 60+ years ago,
in case no one's noticed.

> Remember all the money we THOUGHT we'd save by
> getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan ? Forget it ...
> it's going to go straight into new military hardware
> whether the next prez is DNC or GOP. We'll need
> a terabucks worth of new aircraft carriers, missile
> cruisers, next-gen fighter planes, rockets, field
> weaponry, robots, satellites, tanks, etc, etc, etc.
> and we'd better add an extra couple thousand nukes
> to the aresenal while we're at it. "Cold-War II"
> means the good times are BACK for military contractors.
> FINALLY a foe we'd NEED cutting-edge, hyper-expensive,
> technology to defend against !
>
>
 
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:28:48 -0500, Scotius <yodasbud@mnsi.net> wrote:

>In article <47aaebf5.2632937@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net
>says...
>> BBC
>> Europe's main election watchdog has said it will boycott Russia's
>> presidential election on 2 March.
>>
>> "We regret that circumstances prevent us from observing this
>> election," said Spencer Oliver, general secretary of the OSCE's
>> Parliamentary Assembly.
>>
>> The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has
>> been arguing with Russia over the size and scope of the observers'
>> mission.
>>
>> The watchdog rejected concessions by Moscow aimed at averting a
>> boycott.
>>
>> Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said no self-respecting
>> country would bow to ultimatums of the kind set by the OSCE.
>>
>> 'Limitations'
>>
>> The OSCE's parliamentary assembly announced its decision in a letter
>> sent to the Russian parliament.
>>
>> "We unfortunately cannot accept your invitation to send a limited
>> number of observers to Russia for the presidential election," assembly
>> President Goran Lennmarker said in the letter.
>>
>> Mr Lennmarker also mentioned "other conditions and circumstances",
>> without specifying.
>>
>> Separately, the OSCE's election monitoring wing - the Office for
>> Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) - said it would not
>> send observers because of "limitations" imposed by Moscow.
>>
>> The ODIHR and Russia's election commission have been involved in a row
>> over the size and time schedule of the observers' mission.
>>
>> The ODIHR on Wednesday rejected a commission offer designed to avert a
>> boycott. Russia said it would allow ODIHR observers to arrive on 20
>> February - a week earlier than Moscow had originally wanted.
>>
>> The commission also accepted an increase in the number of monitors,
>> from 70 to 75.
>>
>> But the ODIHR said the offer did not go far enough, insisting on 15
>> February as the start date.
>>
>> The monitors had argued that arriving just three days before the vote
>> would mean they could not monitor the election campaign to see if it
>> was free and fair for all candidates, including their access to
>> Russia's media.
>>
>> The European Union's Slovene presidency said it regretted that due to
>> Russia's restrictions ODIHR "was put in a situation where it found it
>> impossible to execute its mandate and cancelled the election
>> observation mission".
>>
>> It also expressed "its full support to the election observation
>> activities of the ODIHR".
>>
>> - - - - -
>>
>> OK ... put yer money down ... just how soon WILL it
>> be before he's just crowned "Czar Vladimir the First" ?
>>
>> So much for 'democracy' in Russia.
>>
>> Hey, maybe "W" can transfer a few advisors from
>> Afganistan to teach 'em how it's done :)
>>
>> Is it just something in the Russian psychology that
>> makes any sembance of democracy impossible to sustain ?
>> The public seems to adore 'strong man' figures ... and
>> is willing to overlook the often violent excesses of
>> such individiduals. Even the paranoid mass-murdering
>> Stalin still has many fans even though it's clear he
>> killed as many Russians as the NAZI armies did. If
>> Pol Pot was Russian, they'd have appointed him Czar.
>>
>> Russian politicians all jockey to become top dog
>> and form tight oligarchies around the winner. Any
>> outside that circle are just ornaments, 'for
>> appearances'. Even the Soviet regimes liked to
>> maintain the appearance of 'democracy' - even
>> though Russians and outsiders alike knew it was
>> a total lie.
>>
>> Now we're not talking some 4th-world 'Stan or tribal
>> 'state' here, but a top-notch 1st-world superpower
>> with a highly-educated population. There's no question
>> that they understand 'democracy' perfectly well and
>> can see it's benifits (and problems) in other nations.
>> Yet, even given the best of opportunities, Russians
>> shy away from 'democracy' and rapidly gravitate back
>> towards some incarnation of the Czars.
>>
>> So, we can bet that shortly after this "election"
>> we'll see Putins proxy step down for some fabricated
>> reason and watch Putin re-emerge as the official
>> alpha dog. He already has his agents out on the
>> streets stirring-up hatred for both his internal
>> opposition and "Imperial America" - paranoia and
>> xenophobia worked well for Stalin after all - so
>> once Putin officially regains his station he'll
>> be there for life.
>>
>> Expect his enemies - political, ideological and
>> free-media - to drop like flies. The science ministry
>> will have to commission a special new batch of polonium
>> just to keep pace with Putins needs.

>
> Putin has done quite a bit of good for Russia.



Yes ... and Hitler made the trains run on time.

Dictators CAN have their uses. They can cut though
the crap and GET IT DONE. However there's always a
price to pay ... often a very steep price.

>He helped make it
>possible to jail at least one of the big-time oligarchs (Khodorovsky)
>who bought up Soviet assets at fire sale prices after the collapse, and
>that sends a signal to would be looters. That's a good thing, I think.
> He's also presiding over a big economic boom due to Russia's
>reserves of oil and natural gas, and is using some of that to rebuild
>the Russian armed forces, which also needed very much to happen.
> Lastly for this part, I don't believe for one second that Putin
>had anything to do with the murder of the reporter with Polonium.


Um ... the reporter was killed the old-fashioned way. It
was the ex-spy who was killed with a radioactive lunch.

I doubt Putin was directly involved. However if you
recall our "Iran/Contra" affair ; it was a good example
of how loyal underlings operating under what they see
as the implicit desires of the leader can get up to.
As best I see it, one or more of Putins underlings
killed those irritants just assuming Putin would WANT
the disloyal SOBs dead. "Employee initiative" dontchaknow.

>I think pretty much what Pat Buchanan thought of it; that it was a setup
>job from the word go. There's more to this than what you've heard, by
>the way. The reporter who was poisoned with Polonium ran an article
>stating that Putin was a pervert who liked little boys, citing as
>evidence the fact that Putin had kissed a Russian boy on the belly.
>That's probably some kind of Russian tradition. So then the guy gets a
>belly-load of Polonium? Please. If Putin had wanted him killed he
>wouldn't have to send a message with it. That would be just begging the
>gossipmongers to blame him. The man was a ranking KGB officer, and is
>not stupid. That means it was a setup, plain and simple, as far as I'm
>concerned.


There's no sign that Putin made any special EFFORT to
find out who was responsible for the deaths ... instead
he slapped Britain in the face. Ergo, the underlings were
probably correct and Putin DID want those people killed -
just didn't want to bloody his own hands.

Putin is s SMART guy, Putin DOES seem to have a vision of
a "better Russia" - but Putin is not necessarily a NICE
guy. Once you put the KGB into somebody you'll never get
it all out again.

His current efforts to re-start the 'cold war' are quite
worrisome. He's using the "American Threat" as an excuse
as much as "W" uses the "Terrorist Threat" - driving the
wedge between our countries back into place. It didn't
have to be that way. If McCain is the next prez that
makes a new cold-war far more dangerous too.

There were many ways Putin could have consolidated his
power WITHOUT restarting the cold war. He didn't go that
way. He'd rather play the olde-tyme game again, dusting
off the nuclear chessmen. Not good.

>> 'Traitors' and
>> 'spies' will be tracked-down and exterminated, even
>> if they escape to the west. Iran may issue religious
>> death-warrants by the dozen, but Russia has the power
>> and reach to enforce its warrants anywhere in the
>> world. Get on Putins bad side and you wouldn't be
>> safe if you were living on Mars.
>>
>> On the 'plus' side, Putins xenophobic tactics mean
>> a new 'cold war' of sorts. US military contractors
>> and generals will be thrilled at the prospect of
>> a 'worthy adversary' once again.

>
> They already have one; it's called the European Union, which is
>doing everything it can to support America's enemies in the Middle East,
>and become the economic number one by any means possible. The problem is
>that no one in the US with any kind of political authority seems to be
>acknowledging this.


The EU isn't the "threat" it seems to be ... and it's
certainly not the kind of 'threat' that requires us to
build expensive aircraft carriers and fighter planes.
No fun at all.

The EU is something of an economic threat ... but it
is totally eclipsed by China (and soon India) in this
respect. I also have doubts about the long-term stability
of the EU. It really seems to grate on peoples nerves
and place excessive obstacles in the way of of national
interests and needs. As more of europes jobs go to asia
and eastern europe, stresses and strains will create
open fissures.

I think the EU is going to fall apart in ten or fifteen
years. Let's just hope there isn't much shooting involved
or we'll get dragged into yet a THIRD great continental war.

> By the way, Russia would make a far better ally of the US than the
>Europeans would, and despite Bush's insistence on using the phrase
>"...our European allies", the US doesn't actually have many, if any in
>Western Europe.


I agree that we really should have cultivated Russia far
more than we did. There was a window of opportunity that
wasn't adequately exploited. It's closing now ... and the
opportunity may not come around again for a LONG time.

>> Russia is also getting cozy with China again, and
>> waving its newly-exploited oil under Chinas nose as
>> encouragement. This means a larger military threat
>> AND a potential impediment to US/Chinese commerce.
>>

>
> The only reason the Russians were interested in getting cozy with
>China is because of the "We can do whatever we want" attitude coming
>from the US. Russia is a natural ally, and there's not a hell of a lot
>of difference in the European mindset now from the Nazis 60+ years ago,
>in case no one's noticed.


Our current "do what we want" attitude is part of it, but
I think it's a small part. Russia and China are looking at
the much bigger picture, much further down the road. Real
power cometh from MONEY - and a Russian/Chinese relationship
can generate a LOT of money. Why conquer the world when
you can OWN it ?


>> Remember all the money we THOUGHT we'd save by
>> getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan ? Forget it ...
>> it's going to go straight into new military hardware
>> whether the next prez is DNC or GOP. We'll need
>> a terabucks worth of new aircraft carriers, missile
>> cruisers, next-gen fighter planes, rockets, field
>> weaponry, robots, satellites, tanks, etc, etc, etc.
>> and we'd better add an extra couple thousand nukes
>> to the aresenal while we're at it. "Cold-War II"
>> means the good times are BACK for military contractors.
>> FINALLY a foe we'd NEED cutting-edge, hyper-expensive,
>> technology to defend against !
 
That does a whole lot of good. "If" they are not going to watch over the
eleciton, then who can tell if the Russian election is fair?

"B1ackwater" <bw@barrk.net> wrote in message
news:47aaebf5.2632937@news.east.earthlink.net...
> BBC
> Europe's main election watchdog has said it will boycott Russia's
> presidential election on 2 March.
>
> "We regret that circumstances prevent us from observing this
> election," said Spencer Oliver, general secretary of the OSCE's
> Parliamentary Assembly.
>
> The Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) has
> been arguing with Russia over the size and scope of the observers'
> mission.
>
> The watchdog rejected concessions by Moscow aimed at averting a
> boycott.
>
> Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said no self-respecting
> country would bow to ultimatums of the kind set by the OSCE.
>
> 'Limitations'
>
> The OSCE's parliamentary assembly announced its decision in a letter
> sent to the Russian parliament.
>
> "We unfortunately cannot accept your invitation to send a limited
> number of observers to Russia for the presidential election," assembly
> President Goran Lennmarker said in the letter.
>
> Mr Lennmarker also mentioned "other conditions and circumstances",
> without specifying.
>
> Separately, the OSCE's election monitoring wing - the Office for
> Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) - said it would not
> send observers because of "limitations" imposed by Moscow.
>
> The ODIHR and Russia's election commission have been involved in a row
> over the size and time schedule of the observers' mission.
>
> The ODIHR on Wednesday rejected a commission offer designed to avert a
> boycott. Russia said it would allow ODIHR observers to arrive on 20
> February - a week earlier than Moscow had originally wanted.
>
> The commission also accepted an increase in the number of monitors,
> from 70 to 75.
>
> But the ODIHR said the offer did not go far enough, insisting on 15
> February as the start date.
>
> The monitors had argued that arriving just three days before the vote
> would mean they could not monitor the election campaign to see if it
> was free and fair for all candidates, including their access to
> Russia's media.
>
> The European Union's Slovene presidency said it regretted that due to
> Russia's restrictions ODIHR "was put in a situation where it found it
> impossible to execute its mandate and cancelled the election
> observation mission".
>
> It also expressed "its full support to the election observation
> activities of the ODIHR".
>
> - - - - -
>
> OK ... put yer money down ... just how soon WILL it
> be before he's just crowned "Czar Vladimir the First" ?
>
> So much for 'democracy' in Russia.
>
> Hey, maybe "W" can transfer a few advisors from
> Afganistan to teach 'em how it's done :)
>
> Is it just something in the Russian psychology that
> makes any sembance of democracy impossible to sustain ?
> The public seems to adore 'strong man' figures ... and
> is willing to overlook the often violent excesses of
> such individiduals. Even the paranoid mass-murdering
> Stalin still has many fans even though it's clear he
> killed as many Russians as the NAZI armies did. If
> Pol Pot was Russian, they'd have appointed him Czar.
>
> Russian politicians all jockey to become top dog
> and form tight oligarchies around the winner. Any
> outside that circle are just ornaments, 'for
> appearances'. Even the Soviet regimes liked to
> maintain the appearance of 'democracy' - even
> though Russians and outsiders alike knew it was
> a total lie.
>
> Now we're not talking some 4th-world 'Stan or tribal
> 'state' here, but a top-notch 1st-world superpower
> with a highly-educated population. There's no question
> that they understand 'democracy' perfectly well and
> can see it's benifits (and problems) in other nations.
> Yet, even given the best of opportunities, Russians
> shy away from 'democracy' and rapidly gravitate back
> towards some incarnation of the Czars.
>
> So, we can bet that shortly after this "election"
> we'll see Putins proxy step down for some fabricated
> reason and watch Putin re-emerge as the official
> alpha dog. He already has his agents out on the
> streets stirring-up hatred for both his internal
> opposition and "Imperial America" - paranoia and
> xenophobia worked well for Stalin after all - so
> once Putin officially regains his station he'll
> be there for life.
>
> Expect his enemies - political, ideological and
> free-media - to drop like flies. The science ministry
> will have to commission a special new batch of polonium
> just to keep pace with Putins needs. 'Traitors' and
> 'spies' will be tracked-down and exterminated, even
> if they escape to the west. Iran may issue religious
> death-warrants by the dozen, but Russia has the power
> and reach to enforce its warrants anywhere in the
> world. Get on Putins bad side and you wouldn't be
> safe if you were living on Mars.
>
> On the 'plus' side, Putins xenophobic tactics mean
> a new 'cold war' of sorts. US military contractors
> and generals will be thrilled at the prospect of
> a 'worthy adversary' once again.
>
> Russia is also getting cozy with China again, and
> waving its newly-exploited oil under Chinas nose as
> encouragement. This means a larger military threat
> AND a potential impediment to US/Chinese commerce.
>
> Remember all the money we THOUGHT we'd save by
> getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan ? Forget it ...
> it's going to go straight into new military hardware
> whether the next prez is DNC or GOP. We'll need
> a terabucks worth of new aircraft carriers, missile
> cruisers, next-gen fighter planes, rockets, field
> weaponry, robots, satellites, tanks, etc, etc, etc.
> and we'd better add an extra couple thousand nukes
> to the aresenal while we're at it. "Cold-War II"
> means the good times are BACK for military contractors.
> FINALLY a foe we'd NEED cutting-edge, hyper-expensive,
> technology to defend against !
>
 
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