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Remamber this guy, James Woolsey ?
Former CIA director running John McCain's campaign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2_0GrFFn4
McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
PNAC James Woolsey thumbed Iraq on the night of 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bec2hTuzeNU&feature=related
Woolsey Fearmongers On Iranian Nukes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Q23bPSglI&feature=related
Woolsey: destruction of Israel and US is essence of Iranian Vilayat
Faqih movement
Shalom aleikhem
We are all Jews
By James Woolsey
Jerusalem Post | Friday, October 03, 2003
I sometimes get asked these days if I'm Jewish -- it's my neoconish
views on defense and foreign affairs, I suppose. For a while I would
just say, "No, Presbyterian,' but I've started saying instead, 'Well,
I anchor the Presbyterian wing of JINSA (the Jewish Institute for
National Security Affairs)."
What with anti-Semitism growing in Europe and a hideous variety
thereof metastasizing in the Middle East -- not to speak of the
American Left's (and a small part of the Right's) hostility to Israel,
which sometimes veers off into anti-Semitism -- it seems to me our
Jewish friends could use a bit of solidarity these days. Today, the
first day of Rosh Hashana, celebration of the Jewish New Year, is as
good a time as any to explain why.
It's not only the other two great Abrahamic religions, Christianity
and Islam, that owe a substantial debt to Judaism, it's the world as a
whole. The reason is that between three and four millennia ago
something happened in the Sinai among a tribe of refugees from
Egyptian oppression that introduced the world to the concept of the
rule of law -- the idea that the law is not the whim of, but rather has
its source above, those who rule.
This concept is at the heart of what makes decently-governed societies
possible, whether you sign on to Jefferson's formulation that we are
"endowed by our Creator" with basic rights or prefer the more secular
notion of natural law.
In the absence of one or the other of these bases for the notion that
the rule of law somehow derives from a source above the rulers,
electoral democracy can degenerate into mob rule and capitalism into
theft. This supremacy of the law is what most Americans mean when they
say that we have a "government of laws, not men."
Some aspects of this have gotten a bit muddled recently in the largely
academic debate about whether the United States is or is not an
"empire.' If the US is an empire it's a very odd one: Countries where
it has troops such as Saudi Arabia, South Korea, and Germany suggest
they are unhappy about that and the response is, 'OK," and an offer to
leave.
Nero and Napoleon would have been appalled. They would also have had a
hard time understanding the travails of Richard Nixon and Bill
Clinton. One was driven from office by the people's elected
representatives for permitting a cover-up of a clumsy political
burglary. The other was impeached by the House, then acquitted in a
Senate trial, for lying under oath in a deposition taken in what was
essentially a sexual harassment case brought by a private citizen.
What, you may well ask, are the most powerful individuals in the world
doing, if they are emperors, getting held to account by members of
Congress for burglary cover-ups and by private citizens, no less, for
sexual behavior?
The answer is, of course, that neither Nixon nor Clinton, indeed no
American president, is even close to being an emperor. People (and
smaller nations wherein an empire maintains troops) obey emperors, if
they know what's good for them, without much discussion. These two
recent presidents were, instead, held to account in a distinctly non-
imperial way -- in pretty much the same way Elijah humbled Ahab for
allowing his queen, Jezebel, to frame and execute Naboth and steal his
vineyard, and in the way the prophet Nathan confronted David over his
taking Bathsheba and ordering her husband, Uriah, to the front lines
and certain death.
The US does not look back to Rome or France at the height of their
power in determining the way to deal with those who today govern the
most powerful nation in history. Thankfully, in regard to the powerful
being subjected to the rule of law we are, instead, all Jews.
I'VE MAINLY been in synagogues for the bar mitzvas and bat mitzvas of
friends' children. The next time you are, notice what the object of
veneration is -- it is the Torah, the law itself. At a point in the
service it is carried, lovingly, around the congregation, greeted as
an old friend. I am convinced that it is this veneration of the law --
with its status above the ruler -- that is at the heart of anti-
Semitism.
Jews have almost always been the first target of tyrants, because
their beliefs and religious practices, honed by nearly two millennia
in Diaspora, clearly declare that in their view the law is above the
ruler: dietary laws, the dress of the Orthodox, a propensity to
contend about what is a fair interpretation of rules, all stamp Jews
with this belief's being the heart of their history and religion. As a
consequence they are often the first group that dictators, secular or
theocratic, feel they must suppress.
We should all reflect upon the historic reality that when anti-
Semitism raises its head, the rest of us, unless we are willing to
live with a foot on our neck, will be the next targets.
Jewish humor, a distinctive barrier against any propensity to self-
righteousness, permeates American culture. A number of times during
the Cold War, I was involved in arms control negotiations with the
Soviets. No matter how bad the tension across the negotiating table
during the day, Russian and American negotiators would often end up
going out for dinner together. Somehow, even in the most difficult
periods, the conversation frequently turned to trading jokes.
I always thought it remarkable how much Russian humor was suffused
with a wry, self-deprecating, ironic tone both quite funny and somehow
quite familiar to Americans. Later, finding versions of a number of
these jokes and stories in Leo Rosten's wonderful The Joys of Yiddish,
I realized the source of the familiarity.
Six years ago the Immigration and Naturalization Service imprisoned
eight Muslims, Iraqi freedom fighters who were refugees from Saddam,
for allegedly being security threats to the US. The government's case
was worse than flimsy but it was protected by rules regarding secret
evidence. After a long struggle all eight were freed, and several are
now working to establish democracy in Iraq.
I was one of their lawyers. The majority of my co-counsel, all acting
pro bono, were Jewish. The law is, after all, above the ruler.
To all of us, happy Rosh Hashana.
The writer was director of the Central Intelligence Agency 1993--95.
James Woolsey (former director, CIA), The 7th Herzliya Conference said
the destruction of Israel and US is essence of Iranian Vilayat Faqih
movement. An excerpt:
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2007/01/2...is-essence-of-iranian-vilayat-faqih-movement/
Former CIA chief: 'Oil dependence threatens US, Israel ...
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?
The case for reducing the United States' dependence on oil is most
often argued by environmentalists concerned about global warming and
ozone depletion. But a growing number of people are drawing what they
consider to be a crucial link between oil and national security. They
argue that America's reliance on oil is the number one security threat
facing the country.
One figure who has emerged in this debate is co-chairman of the
Committee on the Present Danger and former director of the CIA, R.
James Woolsey, who spoke in New York this week at an event sponsored
by the Middle East Forum, a conservative think tank that seeks to
define and promote America's interests in the Middle East. Woolsey
argues that America's reliance on oil as the primary source of fuel is
one of the greatest barriers to national security and threatens both
the US and Israel.
cid=1162378316436&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Kirkuk to Haifa Pipeline: Reason for the War?
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/category/netanyahu-watch/
US discusses plan to pump fuel to its regional ally and solve energy
headache at a stroke Ed Vuillamy in Washington Sunday April 20, 2003
The Observer
By Steven Scheer
LONDON (Reuters) - Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he
expected an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel to be reopened in the
near future after being closed when Israel became a state in 1948.
"It won't be long when you will see Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa," the
port city in northern Israel, Netanyahu told a group of British
investors, declining to give a timetable.
"It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is reconstituted and
Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean."
Netanyahu later told Reuters the government was in the early stages of
looking into the possibility of reopening the pipeline, which during
the British Mandate sent oil from Mosul to Haifa via Jordan.
Shalom:
"It's not a pipe-dream," Netanyahu said.
Plans to build a pipeline to siphon oil from newly conquered Iraq to
Israel are being discussed between Washington, Tel Aviv and potential
future government figures in Baghdad.The plan envisages the
reconstruction of an old pipeline, inactive since the end of the
British mandate in Palestine in 1948, when the flow from Iraq's
northern oilfields to Palestine was re-directed to Syria.
Sunday, November 4, 2007
Iraqi invasion: oil perspective
The British built the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pipeline in 1927. In 1934, they
completed a 12-inch pipeline from the Kirkuk fields to Al-Haditha on
the Euphrates River. At that point the pipeline forked. One branch
went through Syria to Tripoli (Lebanon). The other went across Jordan
to Haifa. The British built refineries at both Tripoli and Haifa to
handle this Iraq oil. (In World War II, Germany wanted to get control
of this oil.)
In 1945 the British added a parallel 16-inch pipeline in Syria.
When Jews started to invade Palestine in 1945, Syria shut down its
branch to Tripoli. Iraq shut down all oil from from Kirkuk to Haifa.
At that point, most of northern Iraq's oil went to the Turkish port
city of Gihan, which was OK with the US, since Turkey was a US ally
against the USSR. Turkey collect transit fees for this oil.
In 1947 the British oil refinery at Haifa still handled trickle of oil
from miscellaneous areas, and still employed some 1,700 Arab workers,
plus 360 Jewish employees. The Arab and Jewish workers formed a union
to oppose British tyranny. Then Israel was created. Immediately Irgun
(commanded by Menachem Begin), the Hagana and other terrorist groups
moved in. Irgun had bombed the King David Hotel the year before, and
they started massacring Arabs in Haifa and elsewhere.
In 1952, western oil companies built two new lines through Syria to
Tripoli. The pipeline to Haifa was allowed to decay. Pieces of it were
dismantled. Various interests used the pieces to build water
pipelines.
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa (Kirkuk oil fields were said to contain
perhaps 40% of Iraq's oil), and partly to bring oil deals to his
personal friends, such as Ray L. Hunt. Small American oil companies
like Hunt Oil will extract Kurdish oil as soon as and if Mosul and
Kirkuk are broken off from Iraq (17 November 2007). Mosul is the first
stop for Kirkuk oil.
When the Haifa pipeline opens back up, only Jordan (not Israel) will
collect hefty transit fees. Kurdish oil will go to Europe via Israel,
not Turkey. This might be a reason why Turkey is threatening to
invade. The minute Bush invaded Iraq, the Turkish realized that the
pipeline to Haifa would be opened back up. Therefore Turkey tried to
make deals with Central Asian states (such as Azerbaijan) to get new
pipelines to Turkey, but now Iran and Russia have foiled Turkish plans
by forming the new alliance of Caspian Sea states. Turkey feels
squeezed. This is yet another reason why they are threatening to
invade northern Iraq.
Shortly after the 2003 invasion, Benyamin Netanyahu (the then Israeli
finance minister) boasted, "Soon you will see Iraqi oil flowing to
Haifa. It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is
reconstituted, and Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean. It's not
a pipe dream."
Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) the US guaranteed all
Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. This MoU is quietly
renewed every five years. It commits US taxpayers to maintain a
strategic US reserve for Israel, equivalent to $3 billion in 2002
dollars. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from
restrictions on oil exports from the US. Moreover, the US government
agreed to divert oil from the US, even in case of oil shortages in the
US. The US government also guaranteed delivery of oil in US tankers if
commercial shippers become unable or unwilling to carry oil from the
US to Israel.
SEE
Israel-United States Memorandum of Understanding
(September 1, 1975)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/mou1975.html
Israel can wrench lot of oil from the region if the pipeline were used
again and Kurds were willing to sell the oil. It would also make Kurds
dependent on Israelis for oil revenues and thus give a greater
leverage to Israelis over Kurds of the region...
We are All Jews Now
Aidel gepotchket - Delicately brought up
Consider the present crisis in America and the rise of anti-
Americanism worldwide. "The US has become a Jewish state in more ways
than one. It has the same security checks, the same holocaust museums,
the same poverty for many and riches for a few as Israel
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Jones_Palestine.htm
Azoy gait es! - That's how it goes!
L'Shalom
Former CIA director running John McCain's campaign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2_0GrFFn4
McCain: 100 years in Iraq "would be fine with me"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
PNAC James Woolsey thumbed Iraq on the night of 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bec2hTuzeNU&feature=related
Woolsey Fearmongers On Iranian Nukes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Q23bPSglI&feature=related
Woolsey: destruction of Israel and US is essence of Iranian Vilayat
Faqih movement
Shalom aleikhem
We are all Jews
By James Woolsey
Jerusalem Post | Friday, October 03, 2003
I sometimes get asked these days if I'm Jewish -- it's my neoconish
views on defense and foreign affairs, I suppose. For a while I would
just say, "No, Presbyterian,' but I've started saying instead, 'Well,
I anchor the Presbyterian wing of JINSA (the Jewish Institute for
National Security Affairs)."
What with anti-Semitism growing in Europe and a hideous variety
thereof metastasizing in the Middle East -- not to speak of the
American Left's (and a small part of the Right's) hostility to Israel,
which sometimes veers off into anti-Semitism -- it seems to me our
Jewish friends could use a bit of solidarity these days. Today, the
first day of Rosh Hashana, celebration of the Jewish New Year, is as
good a time as any to explain why.
It's not only the other two great Abrahamic religions, Christianity
and Islam, that owe a substantial debt to Judaism, it's the world as a
whole. The reason is that between three and four millennia ago
something happened in the Sinai among a tribe of refugees from
Egyptian oppression that introduced the world to the concept of the
rule of law -- the idea that the law is not the whim of, but rather has
its source above, those who rule.
This concept is at the heart of what makes decently-governed societies
possible, whether you sign on to Jefferson's formulation that we are
"endowed by our Creator" with basic rights or prefer the more secular
notion of natural law.
In the absence of one or the other of these bases for the notion that
the rule of law somehow derives from a source above the rulers,
electoral democracy can degenerate into mob rule and capitalism into
theft. This supremacy of the law is what most Americans mean when they
say that we have a "government of laws, not men."
Some aspects of this have gotten a bit muddled recently in the largely
academic debate about whether the United States is or is not an
"empire.' If the US is an empire it's a very odd one: Countries where
it has troops such as Saudi Arabia, South Korea, and Germany suggest
they are unhappy about that and the response is, 'OK," and an offer to
leave.
Nero and Napoleon would have been appalled. They would also have had a
hard time understanding the travails of Richard Nixon and Bill
Clinton. One was driven from office by the people's elected
representatives for permitting a cover-up of a clumsy political
burglary. The other was impeached by the House, then acquitted in a
Senate trial, for lying under oath in a deposition taken in what was
essentially a sexual harassment case brought by a private citizen.
What, you may well ask, are the most powerful individuals in the world
doing, if they are emperors, getting held to account by members of
Congress for burglary cover-ups and by private citizens, no less, for
sexual behavior?
The answer is, of course, that neither Nixon nor Clinton, indeed no
American president, is even close to being an emperor. People (and
smaller nations wherein an empire maintains troops) obey emperors, if
they know what's good for them, without much discussion. These two
recent presidents were, instead, held to account in a distinctly non-
imperial way -- in pretty much the same way Elijah humbled Ahab for
allowing his queen, Jezebel, to frame and execute Naboth and steal his
vineyard, and in the way the prophet Nathan confronted David over his
taking Bathsheba and ordering her husband, Uriah, to the front lines
and certain death.
The US does not look back to Rome or France at the height of their
power in determining the way to deal with those who today govern the
most powerful nation in history. Thankfully, in regard to the powerful
being subjected to the rule of law we are, instead, all Jews.
I'VE MAINLY been in synagogues for the bar mitzvas and bat mitzvas of
friends' children. The next time you are, notice what the object of
veneration is -- it is the Torah, the law itself. At a point in the
service it is carried, lovingly, around the congregation, greeted as
an old friend. I am convinced that it is this veneration of the law --
with its status above the ruler -- that is at the heart of anti-
Semitism.
Jews have almost always been the first target of tyrants, because
their beliefs and religious practices, honed by nearly two millennia
in Diaspora, clearly declare that in their view the law is above the
ruler: dietary laws, the dress of the Orthodox, a propensity to
contend about what is a fair interpretation of rules, all stamp Jews
with this belief's being the heart of their history and religion. As a
consequence they are often the first group that dictators, secular or
theocratic, feel they must suppress.
We should all reflect upon the historic reality that when anti-
Semitism raises its head, the rest of us, unless we are willing to
live with a foot on our neck, will be the next targets.
Jewish humor, a distinctive barrier against any propensity to self-
righteousness, permeates American culture. A number of times during
the Cold War, I was involved in arms control negotiations with the
Soviets. No matter how bad the tension across the negotiating table
during the day, Russian and American negotiators would often end up
going out for dinner together. Somehow, even in the most difficult
periods, the conversation frequently turned to trading jokes.
I always thought it remarkable how much Russian humor was suffused
with a wry, self-deprecating, ironic tone both quite funny and somehow
quite familiar to Americans. Later, finding versions of a number of
these jokes and stories in Leo Rosten's wonderful The Joys of Yiddish,
I realized the source of the familiarity.
Six years ago the Immigration and Naturalization Service imprisoned
eight Muslims, Iraqi freedom fighters who were refugees from Saddam,
for allegedly being security threats to the US. The government's case
was worse than flimsy but it was protected by rules regarding secret
evidence. After a long struggle all eight were freed, and several are
now working to establish democracy in Iraq.
I was one of their lawyers. The majority of my co-counsel, all acting
pro bono, were Jewish. The law is, after all, above the ruler.
To all of us, happy Rosh Hashana.
The writer was director of the Central Intelligence Agency 1993--95.
James Woolsey (former director, CIA), The 7th Herzliya Conference said
the destruction of Israel and US is essence of Iranian Vilayat Faqih
movement. An excerpt:
http://noisyroom.net/blog/2007/01/2...is-essence-of-iranian-vilayat-faqih-movement/
Former CIA chief: 'Oil dependence threatens US, Israel ...
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?
The case for reducing the United States' dependence on oil is most
often argued by environmentalists concerned about global warming and
ozone depletion. But a growing number of people are drawing what they
consider to be a crucial link between oil and national security. They
argue that America's reliance on oil is the number one security threat
facing the country.
One figure who has emerged in this debate is co-chairman of the
Committee on the Present Danger and former director of the CIA, R.
James Woolsey, who spoke in New York this week at an event sponsored
by the Middle East Forum, a conservative think tank that seeks to
define and promote America's interests in the Middle East. Woolsey
argues that America's reliance on oil as the primary source of fuel is
one of the greatest barriers to national security and threatens both
the US and Israel.
cid=1162378316436&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Kirkuk to Haifa Pipeline: Reason for the War?
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa
http://zionofascism.wordpress.com/category/netanyahu-watch/
US discusses plan to pump fuel to its regional ally and solve energy
headache at a stroke Ed Vuillamy in Washington Sunday April 20, 2003
The Observer
By Steven Scheer
LONDON (Reuters) - Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he
expected an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel to be reopened in the
near future after being closed when Israel became a state in 1948.
"It won't be long when you will see Iraqi oil flowing to Haifa," the
port city in northern Israel, Netanyahu told a group of British
investors, declining to give a timetable.
"It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is reconstituted and
Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean."
Netanyahu later told Reuters the government was in the early stages of
looking into the possibility of reopening the pipeline, which during
the British Mandate sent oil from Mosul to Haifa via Jordan.
Shalom:
"It's not a pipe-dream," Netanyahu said.
Plans to build a pipeline to siphon oil from newly conquered Iraq to
Israel are being discussed between Washington, Tel Aviv and potential
future government figures in Baghdad.The plan envisages the
reconstruction of an old pipeline, inactive since the end of the
British mandate in Palestine in 1948, when the flow from Iraq's
northern oilfields to Palestine was re-directed to Syria.
Sunday, November 4, 2007
Iraqi invasion: oil perspective
The British built the Kirkuk-to-Haifa pipeline in 1927. In 1934, they
completed a 12-inch pipeline from the Kirkuk fields to Al-Haditha on
the Euphrates River. At that point the pipeline forked. One branch
went through Syria to Tripoli (Lebanon). The other went across Jordan
to Haifa. The British built refineries at both Tripoli and Haifa to
handle this Iraq oil. (In World War II, Germany wanted to get control
of this oil.)
In 1945 the British added a parallel 16-inch pipeline in Syria.
When Jews started to invade Palestine in 1945, Syria shut down its
branch to Tripoli. Iraq shut down all oil from from Kirkuk to Haifa.
At that point, most of northern Iraq's oil went to the Turkish port
city of Gihan, which was OK with the US, since Turkey was a US ally
against the USSR. Turkey collect transit fees for this oil.
In 1947 the British oil refinery at Haifa still handled trickle of oil
from miscellaneous areas, and still employed some 1,700 Arab workers,
plus 360 Jewish employees. The Arab and Jewish workers formed a union
to oppose British tyranny. Then Israel was created. Immediately Irgun
(commanded by Menachem Begin), the Hagana and other terrorist groups
moved in. Irgun had bombed the King David Hotel the year before, and
they started massacring Arabs in Haifa and elsewhere.
In 1952, western oil companies built two new lines through Syria to
Tripoli. The pipeline to Haifa was allowed to decay. Pieces of it were
dismantled. Various interests used the pieces to build water
pipelines.
In 2003, Bush invaded Iraq, partly to topple Saddam Hussein, partly to
revive the pipeline to Haifa (Kirkuk oil fields were said to contain
perhaps 40% of Iraq's oil), and partly to bring oil deals to his
personal friends, such as Ray L. Hunt. Small American oil companies
like Hunt Oil will extract Kurdish oil as soon as and if Mosul and
Kirkuk are broken off from Iraq (17 November 2007). Mosul is the first
stop for Kirkuk oil.
When the Haifa pipeline opens back up, only Jordan (not Israel) will
collect hefty transit fees. Kurdish oil will go to Europe via Israel,
not Turkey. This might be a reason why Turkey is threatening to
invade. The minute Bush invaded Iraq, the Turkish realized that the
pipeline to Haifa would be opened back up. Therefore Turkey tried to
make deals with Central Asian states (such as Azerbaijan) to get new
pipelines to Turkey, but now Iran and Russia have foiled Turkish plans
by forming the new alliance of Caspian Sea states. Turkey feels
squeezed. This is yet another reason why they are threatening to
invade northern Iraq.
Shortly after the 2003 invasion, Benyamin Netanyahu (the then Israeli
finance minister) boasted, "Soon you will see Iraqi oil flowing to
Haifa. It is just a matter of time until the pipeline is
reconstituted, and Iraqi oil will flow to the Mediterranean. It's not
a pipe dream."
Under a 1975 Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) the US guaranteed all
Israel's oil needs in the event of a crisis. This MoU is quietly
renewed every five years. It commits US taxpayers to maintain a
strategic US reserve for Israel, equivalent to $3 billion in 2002
dollars. Special legislation was enacted to exempt Israel from
restrictions on oil exports from the US. Moreover, the US government
agreed to divert oil from the US, even in case of oil shortages in the
US. The US government also guaranteed delivery of oil in US tankers if
commercial shippers become unable or unwilling to carry oil from the
US to Israel.
SEE
Israel-United States Memorandum of Understanding
(September 1, 1975)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/mou1975.html
Israel can wrench lot of oil from the region if the pipeline were used
again and Kurds were willing to sell the oil. It would also make Kurds
dependent on Israelis for oil revenues and thus give a greater
leverage to Israelis over Kurds of the region...
We are All Jews Now
Aidel gepotchket - Delicately brought up
Consider the present crisis in America and the rise of anti-
Americanism worldwide. "The US has become a Jewish state in more ways
than one. It has the same security checks, the same holocaust museums,
the same poverty for many and riches for a few as Israel
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles4/Jones_Palestine.htm
Azoy gait es! - That's how it goes!
L'Shalom