FSU gang kills man over Rebel Flag T-shirt

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FSU gang kills man over Rebel Flag T-shirt

Report; Posted on: 2007-02-23

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Gang called FSU tied to fatal brawl

BY JAMES A. QUIRK

STAFF WRITER

When James Morrison and three of his friends walked into Club Deep in

Asbury Park the night of Jan. 14, they hoped to catch Ramallah, one of

several hard-core punk bands slated to play.

Instead, within 20 minutes of entering the venue, Morrison, 25, lay

dying in the arms of one of his friends on the sidewalk just outside

the club, his skull split open from a blow to the back of the head.

It is not clear exactly what happened that night inside Club Deep.

Those who attended the show with Morrison say the brawl that led to

his death was touched off by someone in the club taking offense to a

Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt worn by Morrison's friend.

The Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office has released few details

concerning Morrison's murder, and no arrests have been made. The

venue's owners will say little about the incident and have closed Club

Deep for the winter.

However, interviews with Morrison's mother and the friends who were

with him in the club, as well as dozens of anony-mous letters and

e-mails sent to the Asbury Park Press, suggest that a violent gang

active within the hard-core music community may have played a part in

Morrison's death.

The gang is FSU, which stands for Friends Stand United, or two curse

words followed by the word "up." Once responsible for driving out

neo-Nazi elements in the Boston hard-core punk scene of the mid-1980s,

FSU is now a bizarre gang of young men who assault individuals at

hard-core shows in dozens of cities across the country. Many of the

bands that were slated to play Jan. 14 at Club Deep are affiliated

with FSU, or are known to attract gang members to their shows,

according to sources with the New Jersey State Police Organized Crime

Control Bureau.

Morrison's mother, Lorrie Morrison, 44, of Little Egg Harbor, said she

has spoken at length to the friends who went with her son to Club Deep

the night he was murdered. Most of the fans inside the show, as well

as many of the members of the bands scheduled to play, were wearing

FSU shirts, she said.

"It's definitely FSU who is responsible" for the death of her son,

Lorrie Morrison said. "If they say it's not, they're lying."

"While we are familiar with FSU, we're not going to comment on any

involvement any FSU member had or didn't have with the death or Mr.

Morrison," said First Assistant Monmouth County Prosecutor Peter

Warshaw.

Violence and FSU

FSU first became an increased concern of the State Police roughly a

year ago, officials there said. Though FSU lacks the sophistication of

larger gangs such as the Bloods, whom the State Police consider a

criminal enterprise, officials stressed that the gang is viewed as a

very serious and growing problem.

"Their primary thing is how violent they can become at these

concerts," said Lt. Gerald Lewis, a spokesman for the State Police.

"If one of their members gets picked on and assaulted, they will swarm

the person, and increase their violent acts. . . . Their sole

contributing criminal activities are assault and aggravated assault."

Violence and death at concerts of bands connected to FSU are nothing

new. In December 2005, Ray Darrin Pierson, a member of FSU, was shot

to death outside of a Shattered Realm concert in Tucson, Ariz. No

arrests have been made in that case. Shattered Realm hails from New

Jersey and has toured with Ramallah; three of its musicians are open

FSU members.

It's not clear exactly how FSU devolved from a positive force purging

the hard-core scene of its most unsavory elements to a gang that has

the power to intimidate other hard-core fans, shut down shows and even

venues. The shift took at least a decade to coalesce, but now FSU has

active "crews" in nearly any state that has an active underground

hard-core scene, especially Boston, New Jersey, upstate New York and

Seattle, according to law enforcement officials.

In a 2006 article for The Stranger, an alternative weekly newspaper in

Seattle, reporter Megan Seling wrote: "FSU did start in the '80s as a

group of people who fought racist skinheads at East Coast hard-core

shows, trying to eradicate Nazis from the scene. But FSU's current

insular message of fraternity and demand for respect is far removed

from their anti-racist beginnings. In recent months, they've

threatened and assaulted a number of members of the hard-core scene,

including band members, show promoters, and music fans."

The presence of FSU members in Seattle has vexed the music scene there

for years. In January 2006, gang members showed up at an all-ages show

and threatened the California hard-core band Dangers, causing them not

to play. At issue was the possibility that the Dangers would play

their song "Neo Neo-Nazis," which lambasts FSU for morphing into

nothing but a group of thugs who terrorize people at hard-core shows.

And FSU is particularly infamous in Boston, thanks in part to the

widespread sale of the Boston Beatdown series of DVDs - controversial

documentaries about the Boston hard-core scene that feature hard-core

fans, many of them wearing FSU "colors," randomly assaulting lone

individuals. Boston officials attempted to ban the sale of the DVDs

and cracked down on many hard-core shows after the Boston Herald and

ABC News ran features on their contents in late 2004.

Online postings

Most of the bands slated to perform the night Morrison was killed did

not respond to or declined interview requests.

Members of Wisdom In Chains, in a response sent via MySpace, told the

Press: "It's so sad what went down, we really don't know any details,

and we are ashamed to have our name associated with this tragic event.

The shows are usually a great time, and in 10 plus years of playing in

bands at venues around the world this has never happened before. Our

hearts go out to all affected by this."

In a blog post to their own page on MySpace, members of Ramallah

wrote: "Please stop posting comments and sending messages about the

incident at the show in Asbury Park on this past Sunday. None of

Ramallah was involved, nor did we see anything that happened. We also

did not know the kid that was killed. We have been blamed, lumped in

with whoever was involved, and received tons of negative e-mails about

what happened. None of this is our fault, we were supposed to play a

show and didn't. Most of the people voicing their opinions were also

not at the show and know even less about what happened than we do."

Objections to T-shirt

The brawl that led to Morrison's murder may have all started with an

FSU member taking offense at a Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt.

Friends of Morrison who attended the show spoke to the Asbury Park

Press of what happened inside Club Deep - a club on the boardwalk,

near Second and Ocean avenues - on Jan. 14. Fearing retaliation from

FSU members, they asked that their names not be printed.

Morrison, a Navy veteran who served during the onset of the Iraq war

on board the USS Bataan, had moved to Waretown with a friend just a

week before the Jan. 14 show. A musician himself, Morrison enjoyed

attending local shows with his friends. Their plan Jan. 14 was to see

Ramallah, a hard-core act with roots in Boston that, while popular in

the underground scene, has played only sporadic shows in the area.

The quartet arrived at around 5:30 p.m., not too long after bands

began to play. The lineup advertised for the show was Years Spent

Cold, Hard Response, Wisdom In Chains and Ramallah.

"This was the only concert I've ever been to where I didn't get

searched going through the door," one friend said.

Inside the club, for reasons the friends say they still don't

understand, the atmosphere was immediately tense.

"From the time we walked in, it was like all eyes were on us," one

friend said. "It was like they already knew what they were going to

do. Most of the club was flying gang colors - kids were wearing FSU

Nation jackets, FSU shirts."

Within 15 minutes of walking through the door, one of Morrison's

friends - who was wearing a Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt that features a

Confederate flag - was approached by a man and told to take the

offending shirt off.

Morrison's friends say he tried to defuse the situation, but the man

then removed his jacket, pointed to the FSU T-shirt he was wearing

underneath, and asked, "Now what do you think about that?" before

throwing a punch.

Chaos ensued. Morrison sprang to the defense of his friend. According

to his mother, Morrison may have been struck in the head and body with

a bar stool at this point.

Another friend, who was outside smoking a cigarette when the fight

broke out, said he saw the young man wearing the Skynyrd shirt being

thrown down the front steps of the club. He rushed to his friend's

aid, only to find that Morrison and another friend were being pushed

out the door by security guards and dozens of people from inside the

club.

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>

> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=11723

>

> FSU gang kills man over Rebel Flag T-shirt

> Report; Posted on: 2007-02-23

> [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]

>

>

> Gang called FSU tied to fatal brawl

>

> BY JAMES A. QUIRK

> STAFF WRITER

>

>

> When James Morrison and three of his friends walked into Club Deep in

> Asbury Park the night of Jan. 14, they hoped to catch Ramallah, one of

> several hard-core punk bands slated to play.

>

> Instead, within 20 minutes of entering the venue, Morrison, 25, lay

> dying in the arms of one of his friends on the sidewalk just outside

> the club, his skull split open from a blow to the back of the head.

>

> It is not clear exactly what happened that night inside Club Deep.

> Those who attended the show with Morrison say the brawl that led to

> his death was touched off by someone in the club taking offense to a

> Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt worn by Morrison's friend.

>

> The Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office has released few details

> concerning Morrison's murder, and no arrests have been made. The

> venue's owners will say little about the incident and have closed Club

> Deep for the winter.

>

> However, interviews with Morrison's mother and the friends who were

> with him in the club, as well as dozens of anony-mous letters and

> e-mails sent to the Asbury Park Press, suggest that a violent gang

> active within the hard-core music community may have played a part in

> Morrison's death.

>

> The gang is FSU, which stands for Friends Stand United, or two curse

> words followed by the word "up." Once responsible for driving out

> neo-Nazi elements in the Boston hard-core punk scene of the mid-1980s,

> FSU is now a bizarre gang of young men who assault individuals at

> hard-core shows in dozens of cities across the country.

I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

coming back to haunt them.

"Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

> coming back to haunt them.

Cite ?

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>

> "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

>> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>> coming back to haunt them.

>

>

> Cite ?

>

>

Cite???

Read the article, Kevin.

Or are you not allowed to read in jail??

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> "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

>> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>> coming back to haunt them.

>

>

> Cite ?

Born yesterday?

Server 13 wrote:

> "-" <jazzerciser@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:45df348e.834971455@news.isomedia.com...

>> "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

>>> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>>> coming back to haunt them.

>>

>> Cite ?

>

> Born yesterday?

Turnip truck.

--

Notan

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:34:14 -0600 there was an Ancient "Server 13"

<its@casual.com> who stoppeth one in alt.conspiracy

>> The gang is FSU, which stands for Friends Stand United, or two curse

>> words followed by the word "up." Once responsible for driving out

>> neo-Nazi elements in the Boston hard-core punk scene of the mid-1980s,

>> FSU is now a bizarre gang of young men who assault individuals at

>> hard-core shows in dozens of cities across the country.

>

> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>coming back to haunt them.

Really. Everytime I see someone waving the Confederate flag, I really

want to slap them around and point out that despite having better

generals and more motivated troops at the start, they still managed to

lose the war.

--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail

"Where is the prince who can afford so to cover

his country with troops for its defense, as that

ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might

not,in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief

before a force could be brought together to repel

them?" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN-1784

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:34:14 -0600 there was an Ancient "Server 13"

> <its@casual.com> who stoppeth one in alt.conspiracy

>

>>> The gang is FSU, which stands for Friends Stand United, or two curse

>>> words followed by the word "up." Once responsible for driving out

>>> neo-Nazi elements in the Boston hard-core punk scene of the mid-1980s,

>>> FSU is now a bizarre gang of young men who assault individuals at

>>> hard-core shows in dozens of cities across the country.

>>

>> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>>coming back to haunt them.

>

> Really. Everytime I see someone waving the Confederate flag, I really

> want to slap them around and point out that despite having better

> generals and more motivated troops at the start, they still managed to

> lose the war.

LOL who in your estimation won the war in Viet Nam? <LOL> Who in your

estimation will win the war in Iraq? Yer funny :-)

>

> Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail

>

> "Where is the prince who can afford so to cover

> his country with troops for its defense, as that

> ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might

> not,in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief

> before a force could be brought together to repel

> them?" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN-1784

Doug: The US of A has not won a war since WWII. Just for your information,

heh

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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:34:14 -0600 there was an Ancient "Server 13"

> <its@casual.com> who stoppeth one in alt.conspiracy

>

>>> The gang is FSU, which stands for Friends Stand United, or two curse

>>> words followed by the word "up." Once responsible for driving out

>>> neo-Nazi elements in the Boston hard-core punk scene of the mid-1980s,

>>> FSU is now a bizarre gang of young men who assault individuals at

>>> hard-core shows in dozens of cities across the country.

>>

>> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>>coming back to haunt them.

>

> Really. Everytime I see someone waving the Confederate flag, I really

> want to slap them around and point out that despite having better

> generals and more motivated troops at the start, they still managed to

> lose the war.

> --

>

> Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail

>

> "Where is the prince who can afford so to cover

> his country with troops for its defense, as that

> ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might

> not,in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief

> before a force could be brought together to repel

> them?" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN-1784

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:29:07 GMT there was an Ancient "ctyguy"

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>

>"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message

>news:lp1vt2tqdsvi9gkcbhn3r20i89r7vqeck6@4ax.com...

>> Really. Everytime I see someone waving the Confederate flag, I really

>> want to slap them around and point out that despite having better

>> generals and more motivated troops at the start, they still managed to

>> lose the war.

>

>LOL who in your estimation won the war in Viet Nam? <LOL> Who in your

>estimation will win the war in Iraq? Yer funny :-)

The North Vietnamese won Vietnam. That is pretty self-evident. When

NVA tanks are crashing through the gates of the RVN's Presidential

Palace, it's pretty clear that one side has beaten the other.

Of course, that happened three years after we left.

As for Iraq? No one will win. When we finally withdraw a three-sided

civil war will break out, killing more civilians until some strongman

takes over and becomes the latest dictotor.

As for the Confederated States of America, they surrendered and ceased

to exist as a nation. That pretty much defines failure in war.

--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail

"Where is the prince who can afford so to cover

his country with troops for its defense, as that

ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might

not,in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief

before a force could be brought together to repel

them?" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN-1784

On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:40:28 GMT there was an Ancient "ctyguy"

<ctyguy@hotcoolmail.com> who stoppeth one in alt.conspiracy

>Doug: The US of A has not won a war since WWII. Just for your information,

>heh

Wrong. We won in Korea, Panama, Desert Storm, and successfully

fulfiled our primary missions in many spots around the globe.

In Vietnam, the US never lost a battle. We lost that war at home and

in the political restirctions placed on our commanders. Had we been

free to pursue the VC/NVA into the safe zones in Cambodia and North

Vietnam, their ability to fight would have been seriously degraded.

--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail

"Where is the prince who can afford so to cover

his country with troops for its defense, as that

ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might

not,in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief

before a force could be brought together to repel

them?" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN-1784

jazzerciser@hotmail.com (-) wrote:

>http://www.nationalvanguard.org/

Christian hate irrelevant.

---

George W. Bush. Woops! So much for

the myth of Christian white supremacy.

In article <gIMDh.5802$tD2.4780@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,

"ctyguy" <ctyguy@hotcoolmail.com> wrote:

> Doug: The US of A has not won a war since WWII.

Tell that to Grenada.

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> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:40:28 GMT there was an Ancient "ctyguy"

> <ctyguy@hotcoolmail.com> who stoppeth one in alt.conspiracy

>

>>Doug: The US of A has not won a war since WWII. Just for your

>>information,

>>heh

>

> Wrong. We won in Korea, Panama, Desert Storm, and successfully

> fulfiled our primary missions in many spots around the globe.

>

No way. Korea was not a war and the conflict ended up in a police action.

Desert Storm was a joke and is still being played out <LOL>

I miss old Arnold Schwartzenkopherzinski :-)

Seriously Saddam Hussein had Iraq ultra progressive, but thanks to the foot

soldiers of the US of A the country is in ruins.

> In Vietnam, the US never lost a battle. We lost that war at home and

> in the political restirctions placed on our commanders. Had we been

> free to pursue the VC/NVA into the safe zones in Cambodia and North

> Vietnam, their ability to fight would have been seriously degraded.

> --

>

> Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail

>

> "Where is the prince who can afford so to cover

> his country with troops for its defense, as that

> ten thousand men descending from the clouds, might

> not,in many places, do an infinite deal of mischief

> before a force could be brought together to repel

> them?" - BENJAMIN FRANKLIN-1784

"ctyguy" <ctyguy@hotcoolmail.com> wrote in

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> "Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message

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>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:40:28 GMT there was an Ancient "ctyguy"

>> <ctyguy@hotcoolmail.com> who stoppeth one in alt.conspiracy

>>

>>>Doug: The US of A has not won a war since WWII. Just for your

>>>information,

>>>heh

>>

>> Wrong. We won in Korea, Panama, Desert Storm, and successfully

>> fulfiled our primary missions in many spots around the globe.

>>

>

> No way. Korea was not a war and the conflict ended up in a police

> action.

Korea was a war, by most anyone's definition. North Korea invaded South

Korea. We kicked NK's butt and sent them packing - so badly in fact that

their "protector nation" the Chinese had to intervene. It ended up being

a success for us in that we repelled the NK invasion and the Red Chinese

asked for peace talks as we were advancing back up the peninsula.

Technically, we are still at war with NK - an armistice was signed, not

a final cessation of hostilities.....

>Desert Storm was a joke and is still being played out <LOL>

In Desert Storm (the first Iraq war) we had a set of clearly defined and

limited objectives. We accomplished them, then got the hell out. A

successful way to wage war. Not so the second time around.

the Curmudgeon

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wrote:

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>> http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=11723

>>

>> FSU gang kills man over Rebel Flag T-shirt

>> Report; Posted on: 2007-02-23

>> [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]

>>

>>

>> Gang called FSU tied to fatal brawl

>>

>> BY JAMES A. QUIRK

>> STAFF WRITER

>>

>>

>> When James Morrison and three of his friends walked into Club Deep in

>> Asbury Park the night of Jan. 14, they hoped to catch Ramallah, one of

>> several hard-core punk bands slated to play.

>>

>> Instead, within 20 minutes of entering the venue, Morrison, 25, lay

>> dying in the arms of one of his friends on the sidewalk just outside

>> the club, his skull split open from a blow to the back of the head.

>>

>> It is not clear exactly what happened that night inside Club Deep.

>> Those who attended the show with Morrison say the brawl that led to

>> his death was touched off by someone in the club taking offense to a

>> Lynyrd Skynyrd shirt worn by Morrison's friend.

>>

>> The Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office has released few details

>> concerning Morrison's murder, and no arrests have been made. The

>> venue's owners will say little about the incident and have closed Club

>> Deep for the winter.

>>

>> However, interviews with Morrison's mother and the friends who were

>> with him in the club, as well as dozens of anony-mous letters and

>> e-mails sent to the Asbury Park Press, suggest that a violent gang

>> active within the hard-core music community may have played a part in

>> Morrison's death.

>>

>> The gang is FSU, which stands for Friends Stand United, or two curse

>> words followed by the word "up." Once responsible for driving out

>> neo-Nazi elements in the Boston hard-core punk scene of the mid-1980s,

>> FSU is now a bizarre gang of young men who assault individuals at

>> hard-core shows in dozens of cities across the country.

>

> I can see why white supremacists would be alarmed at their own tactics

>coming back to haunt them.

>

What makes you think the guy was a White supremacist? Because

he was wearing a confederate flag t-shirt? The confederate flag, for

most Southerners, has nothing to do with racism. This is a case of a

bunch of self-righteous idiots believing something about someone

without doing any checking, and taking it upon themselves to act

wrongly, believing themselves to be right.