German neo-Nazis get their booties kicked

From The Associated Press, 3/25/08:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-germany-racist-pamphlet,0,7802811.story

German Far-Right Party Leader Charged

BERLIN -

Prosecutors charged the head of Germany's top far-right party Tuesday

with incitement and defamation for targeting nonwhite players on the

nation's soccer team in a pamphlet printed before the 2006 World Cup.

Prosecutor Simone Herbeth said in a statement that Udo Voigt, head of

the National Democratic Party, or NPD, was charged with incitement and

defamation over the pamphlets.

NPD spokesman Klaus Beier and Frank Schwerdt, a leading member, have

also been charged, Herbeth said.

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Terrific

Harry

lorad474@cs.com wrote:

> On Mar 25, 8:38 am, lorad...@cs.com wrote:

>> On Mar 25, 6:06 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> From The Associated Press, 3/25/08:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-germany-racist-pa...

>>> German Far-Right Party Leader Charged

>>> BERLIN -

>>> Prosecutors charged the head of Germany's top far-right party Tuesday

>>> with incitement and defamation for targeting nonwhite players on the

>>> nation's soccer team in a pamphlet printed before the 2006 World Cup.

>>> Prosecutor Simone Herbeth said in a statement that Udo Voigt, head of

>>> the National Democratic Party, or NPD, was charged with incitement and

>>> defamation over the pamphlets.

>>> NPD spokesman Klaus Beier and Frank Schwerdt, a leading member, have

>>> also been charged, Herbeth said.

>>> ______________________________________________

>>> Terrific

>>> Harry

>> I case you don't know.. the socialist state of Germany doesn't

>> maintain free speech as a liberty for its citizens.

>>

>> Germany is the continental version of the future Orwellian police

>> state - all administered by communist/socialist technocrats who (just

>> like the EU) are appointed - not voted into office.

>>

>> Is there any evidence of what the accused's crime might have been - or

>> is that to be held as a state secret too?

>

> Never mind, I found the crime:

> "The flyers showed the traditional white German jersey with the No. 25

> -- worn at the time by black defender Patrick Owomoyela. They read:

> "White, not just a jersey color! For a real NATIONAL team!" "

>

> Wow.. like some major crime, eh?

>

> How does Reverend Wright's "God Damn the White Man" compare?

Speaking of which, the Rev. Wright is a lot whiter

than many blacks, so maybe he was overcompensating.

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Wolfie

lorad474@cs.com wrote:

> On Mar 25, 9:11 am, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>> lorad...@cs.com wrote:

>>> On Mar 25, 8:38 am, lorad...@cs.com wrote:

>>>> On Mar 25, 6:06 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>>> From The Associated Press, 3/25/08:http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-germany-racist-pa...

>>>>> German Far-Right Party Leader Charged

>>>>> BERLIN -

>>>>> Prosecutors charged the head of Germany's top far-right party Tuesday

>>>>> with incitement and defamation for targeting nonwhite players on the

>>>>> nation's soccer team in a pamphlet printed before the 2006 World Cup.

>>>>> Prosecutor Simone Herbeth said in a statement that Udo Voigt, head of

>>>>> the National Democratic Party, or NPD, was charged with incitement and

>>>>> defamation over the pamphlets.

>>>>> NPD spokesman Klaus Beier and Frank Schwerdt, a leading member, have

>>>>> also been charged, Herbeth said.

>>>>> ______________________________________________

>>>>> Terrific

>>>>> Harry

>>>> I case you don't know.. the socialist state of Germany doesn't

>>>> maintain free speech as a liberty for its citizens.

>>>> Germany is the continental version of the future Orwellian police

>>>> state - all administered by communist/socialist technocrats who (just

>>>> like the EU) are appointed - not voted into office.

>>>> Is there any evidence of what the accused's crime might have been - or

>>>> is that to be held as a state secret too?

>>> Never mind, I found the crime:

>>> "The flyers showed the traditional white German jersey with the No. 25

>>> -- worn at the time by black defender Patrick Owomoyela. They read:

>>> "White, not just a jersey color! For a real NATIONAL team!" "

>>> Wow.. like some major crime, eh?

>>> How does Reverend Wright's "God Damn the White Man" compare?

>> Speaking of which, the Rev. Wright is a lot whiter

>> than many blacks, so maybe he was overcompensating.

>>

>> --

>> Wolfie

>

> You mean just like Obama?

He's lighter than Obama.

--

Wolfie

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT), lorad474@cs.com wrote:

>On Mar 25, 6:06

On Mar 25, 6:34 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote:

> On Mar 25, 2:38 pm, Peter Principle <petesfe...@SNIPITgmail.com>

> wrote:

>

> > On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT), lorad...@cs.com wrote:

> > >I case you don't know.. the socialist state of Germany doesn't

> > >maintain free speech as a liberty for its citizens.

>

> > In case you didn't know, no country, other than the US, does. At least not

> > in the way we mean it when we talk about free speech as a right.

>

> That sux, huh? I mean it really sux.. no 'vox populi'.. no more

> western democracy.

>

> > In case you didn't know, this has exactly NOTHING to do with socialism.

>

> Sure it does. Germany has been heavily indoctrinated by socialism

> since WWII.

> On purpose. What is happening in Germany and what is happening in the

> EU is due to a planned Socialist agenda.

>

> > In

> > case you didn't know, it's a fact of life in many countries of many

> > differing ideologies.

>

> Yeah.. and they all suck too, don't they.

> You're not suggesting that the US suck also, are you?

>

> > In case you didn't know, Great Britain practices official government

> > censorship on a massive scale, for example.

>

> Of course they do. And the Fabian Communist (Labour) controlled

> government of the UK sucks too.

> In fact that place seems like a burgeoning fricken orwell nightmare..

>

> > In case you didn't know, it seems the Germans had a little problem with

> > Nazis not all that long ago.

>

> No, I didn't know... Are you talking about ancient history?

>

> > In case you didn't know, they've vowed to never

> > allow nasty little Nazi scumfucks a toehold in Germany again.

>

> The shame is that they never disallowed genocidal communists or

> socialists from doing the same... which is the source of their lack of

> free speech problem today.

>

> German ex-Marxist Joashka Fischer - who clubbed policemen in street

> riots - and assisted the Red Army Baderhoff Gang - ended up as the

> recent German Foreign Minister. (!)

>

> German Socialist and recent Chencellor of Germany, Gerhardt Schroeder,

> now even works for the russian Gazprom state monopoly. (!)

>

> > In case you didn't know, we, meaning the US, imprisoned, black listed and in

> > every other possible way officially oppressed Americans simply for their

> > political viewpoints. Google McCarthy-ism.

>

> Many of the people that were blacklisted by the McCarthy pogrom were,

> in fact, communists that maintained allegiances to the US's enemy -

> the Soviet Union. They were enemy agents.

>

> Some innocents got burned, yes..

> But the numbers were small..handfuls... not equivalent to Germany's

> entire population... who are being silenced by their socialist

> government for no reason at all.

>

> Besides... it's not nice of you to change tunes in mid stream..

> First (above) you complain that it's ok to silence Germans ..

> And now you claim that it was bad for the US to silence enemy agents.

> Which is it?

>

> > And finally, in case you didn't know, it's none of your damn business how a

> > sovereign nation chooses to rule itself. To think otherwise is to fall into

> > the Bushco trap.

>

> Everything is my damm business, if I so chose comrade... this ain't

> socialist Germany or the UK just yet.

>

> And the trap that people like you are falling into is thinking that

> the left jaws of the Hydra are more welcoming then the right jaws of

> the same damm Hyrda.

>

> Good luck, sheeple person.

The way you just described how awful Germany is, I suppose you're

surprised that they have the largest economy in Europe. Far from not

being allowed to speak freely, Germany has many political parties.

You can say it's your business but until you can vote in Germany you

don't actually have a say. Anyway, because of their history, certain

things are off limits for the time being. However, they do have what

we call freedom, as they allow the National Democratic Party.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:49:15 -0700 (PDT), "kwag7693@hotmail.com"

<kwag7693@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 25, 6:38

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:00:20 -0700 (PDT), "kwag7693@hotmail.com"

<kwag7693@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 26, 10:55

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:24:52 -0700 (PDT), lorad474@cs.com wrote:

>On Mar 26, 10:06

On Mar 26, 2:21 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote:

> On Mar 25, 4:04 pm,Osiris88<inde...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > The way you just described how awful Germany is, I suppose you're

> > surprised that they have the largest economy in Europe.

>

> Yes?... and so what?

> The single party Maoist controlled totalitarian red china is now out-

> producing the US too.

>

> > Far from not

> > being allowed to speak freely, Germany has many political parties.

>

> How nice.. That's the way it should be.. but has nothing to do with

> its lack of free-speech.

>

> > You can say it's your business but until you can vote in Germany you

> > don't actually have a say.

>

> I don't want to vote in Germany.. and I am not legally enfranchised to

> vote in Germany..

> But I certainly am enfranchised to comment on their anti-free-speech

> behavior... just as you (if you are a US citizen) are enfranchised to

> comment on any nation's policies.

>

> And if you are a German citizen, you should check with your local

> criminal prosecutor to first see what you can or cannot say. Just make

> sure that you don't draw too much attention to yourself.. by asking.

>

> > Anyway, because of their history, certain

> > things are off limits for the time being.

>

> Various european communists were guilty of murdering over 60 million

> people...

> However they are allowed to speak and hold high offices in Germany and

> the EU.

> Why does this pro-communist dicotomy exist as german state policy?

> Why is communist propaganda allowed and other propaganda supressed?

>

> > However, they do have what

> > we call freedom, as they allow the National Democratic Party.

>

> That's nice..

> Now explain why they don't allow free speech.

It has to do with NAZI and nationalist ideas that caused the

Holocaust. It is a very dark time in their history and they don't

want it repeated. They know these elements exist within Germany and

perhaps one day their attitude will change. I have personal

experience with this, as a musician. I had to get permission from

their government in order to use certain artwork and I had the same

complaint that you do now. In fact what I was doing was not in line

with any nationalist ideology, but I still had to get permission. And

I did because they determined that I was not a threat nor encouraging

certain behavior. So that's actually a step in a good direction for

them. It's not like how we allow the KKK or WAR to parade here; they

never had control of this country or started a war that caused

millions of deaths. It's their issue, not ours, and for you to try to

compare it to what you know in your experience here is futile and

pointless.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:34:03 -0700 (PDT), lorad474@cs.com wrote:

>On Mar 25, 2:38

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:49:15 -0700 (PDT), "kwag7693@hotmail.com"

<kwag7693@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 25, 6:38

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 09:00:20 -0700 (PDT), "kwag7693@hotmail.com"

<kwag7693@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 26, 10:55

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:36:13 -0700 (PDT), "kwag7693@hotmail.com"

<kwag7693@hotmail.com> wrote:

>The right of free speech, which is limited to actual speech and not

>incitements to riot, etc., is encoded in the Bill of Rights.

<snicker>

It's, er, "encoded," is it, genius? Um, why? And how does one DEcode it? Is

the codec in the BoR, too, genius?

Perhaps your subliterate stupid ass meant to say it is CODIFIED in the BoR,

yes?

Jaybus...

It's a damn shame you're not smart enough to know you aren't smart enough.

You're missing some first class entertainment...

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On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:45:38 -0700 (PDT), "kwag7693@hotmail.com"

<kwag7693@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 26, 11:29