GITMO DETAINEES ALLOWED VEGETABLE GARDENS!!

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Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........

"Some Guantanamo Inmates Able to Garden
March 10, 2007, 5:00 PM EST

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A select group of detainees at the U.S.
prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been allowed to garden for the
first time, a military spokesman said.

Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the "most compliant" detainees,
started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled
planters, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand said.

The military allowed the plants -- and provided plastic gardening
tools, watering cans and seeds -- at the request of lawyers for
detainees, Durand said Friday in an e-mail response to questions about
the activity.

Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Camp 4 holds about 35 detainees, who are allowed to spend time
together, spend 12 to 14 hours a day outside, eat communally and live
in barracks-style housing.

Only those who have "demonstrated long-term compliance with camp
rules," are permitted to live in Camp 4, Durand said.

In all, Guantanamo holds about 385 prisoners on suspicion of links to
al-Qaida or the Taliban. Most are held in one-person cells, eat alone
and have only limited outdoor recreation.

Lawyers said they appreciated the decision to allow Camp 4 detainees
to garden.

"This is welcome news and one small but important step toward sanity,"
said Sabin Willett, an attorney who represents ethnic Uighurs from
western China held at Guantanamo.

Willett said gardens have traditionally been allowed in prisoner-of-
war camps and even U.S. Army regulations require that "men held in
prolonged imprisonment must be given some useful and creative thing to
do."

Clive Stafford Smith, an attorney with the British human rights group
Reprieve, said he asked the military last year to allow gardening and
had begun collecting donated seeds. He learned the gardening had been
authorized during a visit to the prison last week. "It's a small step
forward," he said. "
 
"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours


We got to give them something to do between waterboarding appointments.

> Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........
>
> "Some Guantanamo Inmates Able to Garden
> March 10, 2007, 5:00 PM EST
>
> SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A select group of detainees at the U.S.
> prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been allowed to garden for the
> first time, a military spokesman said.
>
> Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the "most compliant" detainees,
> started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled
> planters, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand said.
>
> The military allowed the plants -- and provided plastic gardening
> tools, watering cans and seeds -- at the request of lawyers for
> detainees, Durand said Friday in an e-mail response to questions about
> the activity.
>
> Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
> prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
> library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
> mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
>
> Camp 4 holds about 35 detainees, who are allowed to spend time
> together, spend 12 to 14 hours a day outside, eat communally and live
> in barracks-style housing.
>
> Only those who have "demonstrated long-term compliance with camp
> rules," are permitted to live in Camp 4, Durand said.
>
> In all, Guantanamo holds about 385 prisoners on suspicion of links to
> al-Qaida or the Taliban. Most are held in one-person cells, eat alone
> and have only limited outdoor recreation.
>
> Lawyers said they appreciated the decision to allow Camp 4 detainees
> to garden.
>
> "This is welcome news and one small but important step toward sanity,"
> said Sabin Willett, an attorney who represents ethnic Uighurs from
> western China held at Guantanamo.
>
> Willett said gardens have traditionally been allowed in prisoner-of-
> war camps and even U.S. Army regulations require that "men held in
> prolonged imprisonment must be given some useful and creative thing to
> do."
>
> Clive Stafford Smith, an attorney with the British human rights group
> Reprieve, said he asked the military last year to allow gardening and
> had begun collecting donated seeds. He learned the gardening had been
> authorized during a visit to the prison last week. "It's a small step
> forward," he said. "
>
 
"Select"

Just enough to get us off the hook.

Not impressed.


"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
> Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........
>
> "Some Guantanamo Inmates Able to Garden
> March 10, 2007, 5:00 PM EST
>
> SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A select group of detainees at the U.S.
> prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been allowed to garden for the
> first time, a military spokesman said.
>
> Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the "most compliant" detainees,
> started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled
> planters, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand said.
>
> The military allowed the plants -- and provided plastic gardening
> tools, watering cans and seeds -- at the request of lawyers for
> detainees, Durand said Friday in an e-mail response to questions about
> the activity.
>
> Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
> prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
> library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
> mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
>
> Camp 4 holds about 35 detainees, who are allowed to spend time
> together, spend 12 to 14 hours a day outside, eat communally and live
> in barracks-style housing.
>
> Only those who have "demonstrated long-term compliance with camp
> rules," are permitted to live in Camp 4, Durand said.
>
> In all, Guantanamo holds about 385 prisoners on suspicion of links to
> al-Qaida or the Taliban. Most are held in one-person cells, eat alone
> and have only limited outdoor recreation.
>
> Lawyers said they appreciated the decision to allow Camp 4 detainees
> to garden.
>
> "This is welcome news and one small but important step toward sanity,"
> said Sabin Willett, an attorney who represents ethnic Uighurs from
> western China held at Guantanamo.
>
> Willett said gardens have traditionally been allowed in prisoner-of-
> war camps and even U.S. Army regulations require that "men held in
> prolonged imprisonment must be given some useful and creative thing to
> do."
>
> Clive Stafford Smith, an attorney with the British human rights group
> Reprieve, said he asked the military last year to allow gardening and
> had begun collecting donated seeds. He learned the gardening had been
> authorized during a visit to the prison last week. "It's a small step
> forward," he said. "
>
 
"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
> prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
> library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
> mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.



A garden is nice. It is no substitute for due process. ....But all that is
for the accused....what damage do we do ourselves in abandoning due process?
Do the worst of Americans tremble so violently with fear that they have
forgotten the principles for which we stand?

How do they squirm those low born who tell us of the bad things these
prisoners of war...who are deemed not prisoners of war. How can they know
these things? From the liars who assured them of WMD? Traditional Freedom
loving Americans do not trust the words of a police officer, a spy, or even
a president acting outside authority of the constitution. No, real patriots
do not blind their eye to justice or the process of law. We have due
process. Some evil men have stolen it from us. Some weak sniveling little
fearfull shells of men have allowed them to do so.

Randy R. Cox
 
"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in
news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

> Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
> Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........




<poof>...heehee
 
On Mar 11, 4:57?pm, "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> what damage do we do ourselves in abandoning due process?


NONE..........Enemy Combatants AREN'T Entitled to Due
Process.........Donchaknow.........
 
"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1173665806.181821.223200@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...
> On Mar 11, 4:57?pm, "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> what damage do we do ourselves in abandoning due process?

>
> NONE..........Enemy Combatants AREN'T Entitled to Due
> Process.........Donchaknow.........


One can explain the difference between green and blue to a colorblind
person. You can show them green and you can show them blue. They'll see
something! They'll even think they see green and blue, but in the end they
just can't tell the difference.

I'm not an enemy combatant. I'm an American citizen. I'm entitled to due
process. I'm entitled to a government of decency. When my tax dollars hold
men in prison, I'm entitled to know they are there by the due process of
law....not the fear of cowards and the word of liars.

Cowards, liars, low born men of questionable heart lack faith in a system of
due process. Their minds function on the level of fear rather than reason.
If they really believed due process worked...they would champion it. They
don't believe, so they compromise it.

Men that compromise the foundations of our country are enemies of our
country.

Evil men from within have stolen these entitlements of due process from real
patriots who actually believe in our country. A voice of weakness
proclaimed the need to abandon our ways for the ways of lesser nations.
Lesser voices from the weaker parts of our nation banded together to follow
the ways of the third world over the ways that made us strong.

So now we lose....because we adopted the ways of loser nations.

The more we imprison without due process....the more we lose.
The more we torture....the more we lose.
The more the irrational try to justify the unjustifiable....the more we
lose.

At the beginning, I warned where this would take us. It was only projection
then..........but now it is fact. We have these "Enemy Combatants" and the
nature of their existence weighs us down. Due process would have cost us
little. Instead...NOT affording due process has brought us shame.

Randy R. Cox
 
In article <8sidnXhDsfd7PGnYnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com>, noddy093
@comcast.net mumbled
> "Select"
>
> Just enough to get us off the hook.


Don't worry. The non-compliant ones will be sent to live with you.


> Not impressed.





>
>
> "theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> > Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
> > Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........
> >
> > "Some Guantanamo Inmates Able to Garden
> > March 10, 2007, 5:00 PM EST
> >
> > SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A select group of detainees at the U.S.
> > prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been allowed to garden for the
> > first time, a military spokesman said.
> >
> > Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the "most compliant" detainees,
> > started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled
> > planters, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand said.
> >
> > The military allowed the plants -- and provided plastic gardening
> > tools, watering cans and seeds -- at the request of lawyers for
> > detainees, Durand said Friday in an e-mail response to questions about
> > the activity.
> >
> > Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
> > prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
> > library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
> > mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
> >
> > Camp 4 holds about 35 detainees, who are allowed to spend time
> > together, spend 12 to 14 hours a day outside, eat communally and live
> > in barracks-style housing.
> >
> > Only those who have "demonstrated long-term compliance with camp
> > rules," are permitted to live in Camp 4, Durand said.
> >
> > In all, Guantanamo holds about 385 prisoners on suspicion of links to
> > al-Qaida or the Taliban. Most are held in one-person cells, eat alone
> > and have only limited outdoor recreation.
> >
> > Lawyers said they appreciated the decision to allow Camp 4 detainees
> > to garden.
> >
> > "This is welcome news and one small but important step toward sanity,"
> > said Sabin Willett, an attorney who represents ethnic Uighurs from
> > western China held at Guantanamo.
> >
> > Willett said gardens have traditionally been allowed in prisoner-of-
> > war camps and even U.S. Army regulations require that "men held in
> > prolonged imprisonment must be given some useful and creative thing to
> > do."
> >
> > Clive Stafford Smith, an attorney with the British human rights group
> > Reprieve, said he asked the military last year to allow gardening and
> > had begun collecting donated seeds. He learned the gardening had been
> > authorized during a visit to the prison last week. "It's a small step
> > forward," he said. "
> >

>
>
>


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On Mar 11, 7:09�pm, "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173665806.181821.223200@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Mar 11, 4:57?pm, "Randy Cox" <randycox1...@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> >> what damage do we do ourselves in abandoning due process?

>
> > NONE..........Enemy Combatants AREN'T Entitled to Due
> > Process.........Donchaknow.........

>
> I'm not an enemy combatant.
 
"theloneranger100@aol.com" <ScreenBeret100@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
> Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........
>
> "Some Guantanamo Inmates Able to Garden
> March 10, 2007, 5:00 PM EST
>
> SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A select group of detainees at the U.S.
> prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been allowed to garden for the
> first time, a military spokesman said.
>
> Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the "most compliant" detainees,
> started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled
> planters, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand said.
>
> The military allowed the plants -- and provided plastic gardening
> tools, watering cans and seeds -- at the request of lawyers for
> detainees, Durand said Friday in an e-mail response to questions about
> the activity.
>
> Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
> prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
> library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
> mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
>
> Camp 4 holds about 35 detainees, who are allowed to spend time
> together, spend 12 to 14 hours a day outside, eat communally and live
> in barracks-style housing.
>
> Only those who have "demonstrated long-term compliance with camp
> rules," are permitted to live in Camp 4, Durand said.
>
> In all, Guantanamo holds about 385 prisoners on suspicion of links to
> al-Qaida or the Taliban. Most are held in one-person cells, eat alone
> and have only limited outdoor recreation.
>
> Lawyers said they appreciated the decision to allow Camp 4 detainees
> to garden.
>
> "This is welcome news and one small but important step toward sanity,"
> said Sabin Willett, an attorney who represents ethnic Uighurs from
> western China held at Guantanamo.
>
> Willett said gardens have traditionally been allowed in prisoner-of-
> war camps and even U.S. Army regulations require that "men held in
> prolonged imprisonment must be given some useful and creative thing to
> do."
>
> Clive Stafford Smith, an attorney with the British human rights group
> Reprieve, said he asked the military last year to allow gardening and
> had begun collecting donated seeds. He learned the gardening had been
> authorized during a visit to the prison last week. "It's a small step
> forward," he said. "


Oh. I guess that excuses the kidnapping, transporting across international
lines, isolation from family and legal council, lack of ANY real legal
status, years of confinement with no end in sight, being ruled over by a
moronic "napoleon" who has committed more crimes than any of them could EVER
be connected to.
 
On Mar 12, 1:30?am, "freenorm" <freen...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "theloneranger...@aol.com" <ScreenBeret...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173648933.017844.163680@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
> > Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........

>
> > "Some Guantanamo Inmates Able to Garden
> > March 10, 2007, 5:00 PM EST

>
> > SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) -- A select group of detainees at the U.S.
> > prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, has been allowed to garden for the
> > first time, a military spokesman said.

>
> > Prisoners in Camp 4, which holds the "most compliant" detainees,
> > started growing tomatoes several weeks ago in concrete soil-filled
> > planters, Navy Cmdr. Robert Durand said.

>
> > The military allowed the plants -- and provided plastic gardening
> > tools, watering cans and seeds -- at the request of lawyers for
> > detainees, Durand said Friday in an e-mail response to questions about
> > the activity.

>
> > Gardening is intended to "provide intellectual stimulation" to
> > prisoners, Durand said, comparing it to the military's detainee
> > library and literacy programs in Arabic and Pashto, a language spoken
> > mainly in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

>
> > Camp 4 holds about 35 detainees, who are allowed to spend time
> > together, spend 12 to 14 hours a day outside, eat communally and live
> > in barracks-style housing.

>
> > Only those who have "demonstrated long-term compliance with camp
> > rules," are permitted to live in Camp 4, Durand said.

>
> > In all, Guantanamo holds about 385 prisoners on suspicion of links to
> > al-Qaida or the Taliban. Most are held in one-person cells, eat alone
> > and have only limited outdoor recreation.

>
> > Lawyers said they appreciated the decision to allow Camp 4 detainees
> > to garden.

>
> > "This is welcome news and one small but important step toward sanity,"
> > said Sabin Willett, an attorney who represents ethnic Uighurs from
> > western China held at Guantanamo.

>
> > Willett said gardens have traditionally been allowed in prisoner-of-
> > war camps and even U.S. Army regulations require that "men held in
> > prolonged imprisonment must be given some useful and creative thing to
> > do."

>
> > Clive Stafford Smith, an attorney with the British human rights group
> > Reprieve, said he asked the military last year to allow gardening and
> > had begun collecting donated seeds. He learned the gardening had been
> > authorized during a visit to the prison last week. "It's a small step
> > forward," he said. "

>
> Oh. I guess that excuses the kidnapping, transporting across international
> lines, isolation from family and legal council, lack of ANY real legal
> status, years of confinement with no end in sight, being ruled over by a
> moronic "napoleon" who has committed more crimes than any of them could EVER
> be connected to.


CITE ONE "Crime", please.........I'll be WAITING............

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On Mar 11, 5:35 pm, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
<ScreenBeret...@aol.com> wrote:
> Yup......At "Club Gitmo", Detainees can now spend their Relaxing Hours
> Gardening Vegetables........How QUAINT!..........
>


This should be SOP in the correctional system, military bases and in
primary public education.

Rick Hohensee
 
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