Head in the sand fuckers.

This has been pissing me off for ages, but the latest installment just iced the fucking shit cake for mine.

Fucking nine eleven shit again? Oooooh, how it hurt us. How it changed our way of life. How it destroyed our composure. How it created fear, where there was no fear.

Fucking crock of shit, is what it all is.

I can't believe that outright bullshit war propaganda is allowed to masquerade as news these days. I guess that John Doe and his wife Jane don't give a fuck about truth. They are dumb fucking symbols of what it takes to be an American believer these days.

Keep sucking it up. Losers.

Whose head is in the sand? Sounds like yours.

1) This has been going on long before 9/11. 9/11 was just a wake up call for dumb shits like you.

2) This is not an American problem. This is a world wide problem and if you can’t see what’s going on that only galvanizes my statement as to who has their head in the sand. http://www.historycentral.com/Terrorhistory.html

http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/cover_stories/article_1641.asp?s=1

3) Look a bit closer will you? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4488513.stm Hmm scare tactics? They're trying to hide the numbers of attacks. This is in contrast to your statements before isn’t it?

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In the revised report the department said there had in fact been 208 attacks -

It's good to see you jump on the democrat band wagon with your rebuttal to builder snatchfood, they are the ones who want the public informed of this coverup... glad to see you are coming to your senses.

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It's good to see you jump on the democrat band wagon with your rebuttal to builder snatchfood, they are the ones who want the public informed of this coverup... glad to see you are coming to your senses.

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Hay, I see it like it is. I agree.

I don't see it as losing the war. I see it as waking up the public. You know, for all those nay sayers that think nothings going on and it's all a rebuplican scare tactic.

http://www.dukemagazine.duke.edu/dukemag/issues/030403/emerging2.html

An article I think we can all apperciate on some level, very balenced and well thought.

An America that straddles the world also has a unique perception of, and response to, threats. "America thinks the world changed on September 11, and the world thinks only America changed," Feaver says. "Because America is what it is, it has the potential to act on its own perception in a unique way." Much of the friction among allies is "really a friction over risk management." So France, worried about terrorism at home, has a natural interest in avoiding war with Iraq. The U.S., worried about having to deal with an Iraq armed with nuclear weapons, has a natural interest in pursuing a war. "September 11 changed what this administration is willing to tolerate in terms of risk. It's not who cares more about the U.N. or who cares more about peace. It all has to do with very sound recognitions of very different national interests."

 

Not every political analyst is convinced of the soundness and sameness of American foreign policy. A campus forum, held just days after the U.S. military action in Iraq, brought some stinging observations from James B. Duke Professor of political science Robert Keohane. Keohane said that the policy of "unilateral, preventive war" is "full of danger for the future." The Bush Doctrine "implies a new form of imperialism, which is rule by coercion and fear," he said. And that system is unsustainable. "It implies a series of future wars and coercive actions against other countries whose governments we dislike and fear." Iran, for one, wonders if it's the next target of the U.S., which may help explain its accelerating nuclear program.

 

Practicing pre-emption diminishes international organizations like the U.N. and NATO that have "helped create world order for fifty years," ensures "widespread antagonism and resentment toward the U.S. in much of the rest of the world," and contributes to the "continued recruitment of terrorists dedicated to attacking the U.S. and American nationals abroad," Keohane added. "As a result, the U.S. is likely to become more of a garrison state, guarding its borders and using force to protect citizens outside its borders from these fears. In other words, the Bush Doctrine is a recipe for chaos. It will create more threats than it eliminates."

The vonerability of the American people has never been so easily tricked than after 9/11.

Can the American people not comprehend that Iraq really had nothing to do with 9/11 and those who are fighting in Iraq right now like Soldiers and Terrorists are not fighting for Bush or Saddam but for the preception of "Freedom for my Country".

Atfer 9/11 the American people were like clay in the hands of the Bush Administration. THEY COULD DO ANYTHING.

And for those who think that the Bush Administration could never orcastrate something like this think again... After Vietnam, media coverage of what really happened leaked all over the news and media and the world, especially within the United States, began to actually realise what REALLY happened in Vietnam. After the government went under heavy critisism and so forth, the White House of course began to think of ways of how to control what people see and what people shouldn't see for THEIR OWN AGENDA.

If you think that 19 hijackers could take a bunch of Planes and fly them all over the United States than how hard is it to comprehend that Bush and his companions could have, in the least bit, knew about 9/11, closed a few deals, and orcastrated the aftermath.

Oh and as for the Pentagon well... HOW THE FUCK WAS A HOLE THIS FUCKING BIG A 747!!!

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/pentagon_hole2.jpg

http://physics911.ca/org/modules/myalbum/photos/24.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/sy-k/pentagon/3v/DD2b.jpg

Oh, and if the WTCs collapsed mainly because of hot fuel from the wings, why is it that the sides of the hole, like the parking sign and such, ARE NOT BURNED!! AND THEY'RE BRICK!!

Also the FBI has actual footage from a store across from the Pentagon apparantley of the Plane hitting it. If it really is a plane that hit, why don't you silence the rest of the smart and not close-minded world and SHOW US THE FUCKING VIDEO!!

Will people belive anything? LIKE WTF!!

The American people have so greatly embraced freedom in the past and that obsession of freedom of speech and to know everything that you government is doing is really taught to Americans. This is why its hard for them to think their elected representatives could do anything like this.

If the Bush Administration was in Iraq strictly to free the Iraqis from Saddam and his followers there wouldn't be any terrorists. There also wouldn't be any Oil for Food bullshit. Oil kingdoms in Iraq are being bought for a bargain and corporate capatalistic motherfuckers are taking in all the Cash. Infact the only reason why people are fighting the American occupation if because there are more civilians have been killed by the Coalitions forces than the amount of killed terrorists. AND the first bombs in Iraq have only killed civilians. That was in Dura.

One reporter even surveyed many Iraqis and found that the difference in sects of Islam like Shiite or Sunni couldn't be noticed by the Iraqi Public and frankly people didn't care, BEFORE THE OCCUPATION.

Now you have Iraqi Sunnis killing Iraqi Shiites, Iraqi Shiites killing Iraqi Sunnis, Coalition forces killing Iraqis, and Iraqis killing coalition forces.

Go fuck yourself with your shitty koran. Your ideas suck, and you suck. You should go stand up for your religion on the other end of a rifle. I have family over there, fighting against your stupidity. Fuck you buddy.

To who ever was the pussy who wrote that in my rep shit...

Well BUDDY, maybe you should check who your family is "fighting" for. AND WHO THEY'RE FIGHTING.

Last time I checked, YOU INVADED IRAQ and Saddam never had weapons nor did he have the intent to make any.

YOU'RE OWN FUCKING SENATE SAID SO!!

So anyways, while I read my Quran right now. I rejoice in what a beautiful belief system I have where I don't get spoon-fed propoganda and I am taught to make my OWN choices on what I decide.

So before you go on like a little bitch and tell me you have family that is fighting in Iraq, maybe you should double check who and what they are REALLY fighting for. Besides, it's not my fault they fucking decided to enlist. Maybe they should've stayed in school!

Hamza, you make yourself sound like a "tinhat" when you rant about 9/11 conspiracies.

Oh and as for the Pentagon well... HOW THE FUCK WAS A HOLE THIS FUCKING BIG A 747!!!

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Oh, and if the WTCs collapsed mainly because of hot fuel from the wings, why is it that the sides of the hole, like the parking sign and such, ARE NOT BURNED!! AND THEY'RE BRICK!!

 

Blah blah blah... Whatever ya fucking tinhat wearing nutjob. I was stoned smoking weed with my buddy on my couch, kicked back and watching the towers burn. Both me and my pothead friend said to each other "Dude those building are gonna fall any minute, I wouldn't go anywhere near them". And viola, they fell. Wow, who woulda thunk it? If you continue to have this 9/11 conspiracy talk, I will smoke your argument so bad you will piss in your panties. Maybe you can denounce the hundreds of eyewitness' that watched a 747 crash into the Pentagon?

When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

 

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

 

DISPUTE IT!. Just try and I'll make it worse. Say uncle motherfucker.

DISPUTE IT!. Just try and I'll make it worse. Say uncle motherfucker.

You are wasting your time you can never convince a fuckin' nut that he is a fuckin' nut. They live in their own little world isolated by false information and deluding themselves that it is the rest of us who are falling for propaganda.

You are wasting your time you can never convince a fuckin' nut that he is a fuckin' nut. They live in their own little world isolated by false information and deluding themselves that it is the rest of us who are falling for propaganda.

I just get a giggle from these Muslim sympathizers, like Hamza, who post links and pictures to "prove" that Muslims were victimized by the events of 9/11, then post garbage to make it seem like it WASN'T Muslims whom committed these atrocities.

3,000 innocent Americans were murdered by Muslims on live TV for us all to see, and yet and still Muslims continue to deflect blame towards Americans themselves. If the world wide Muslim community truly denounced the terror of 9/11, Osama Bin Laden would have been captured or killed long ago.

I think the fact is that the events of 9/11 inspired the same patriotic feeling of victory to Muslims, that would be taken from a victory in a soccer match.

Fucking

Well Hamza I

3,000 innocent Americans were murdered by Muslims on live TV for us all to see, and yet and still Muslims continue to deflect blame towards Americans themselves.

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis died by the hands of the US Coalition... YOU DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THEM!! They are nothing to you. They are children, women, men to me. They count to me. They all have a heart and a mind. They all have emotion. So did the 3,000 people who died on 9/11. Muslims died in the towers too. You just don't get it. I want to get to the fucking bottom of 9/11... IT DOESN'T MEAN I DON'T FEEL FOR THE FAMILIES!! I don't think the people we're murdered by Muslims in the WTCs... How does that make the families feel? Bad? Why the fuck should it? They just have to be murdered by Muslims right? Some fucking moral human you are.

The problem with you is that you think your perspective is the ONLY perspective. You refuse to see to any other side. Even when in the back of your mind you know you should be atleast listening.

Who warned us of Imperialism? Which american fucking warned us of standing armies??

America has an empire, there is no excuse for 725 American military bases, in a 130 foreign countries - and counting.

Hamza is truly a fuckin' loon. Occam's razor folks. What happened to Flight 77?

This is what happened to it: http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Hamza is truly a fuckin' loon. Occam's razor folks. What happened to Flight 77?

 

This is what happened to it: http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

LOL!! ONLY that and the plane was a 747??

You know I was totally pissed off today already because it is fucking 2006 and my job site was shut down (with the help of cops) because we did not have union labor on site. So first off FUCK THE UNIONS & now for my rant on this retarded subject;

 

The pentagon was hit by a plane, I know because I was working in the Watergate building across the river and watched the fucking plane come in, the next day my crew

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There is no scar or entry hole that could possibly support this scenario. Neither is there any wreckage to be seen in front of the building.

This is a flat out lie. Many pieces of the left wing section were found embedded into the ground. It has not only been proven that a plane hit the pentagon, but at what angle the plane was tilted.

What are you supposing, Hamza? That a missile hit the pentagon? If so the entire wall would have been blown to pieces, including your precious 'no parking' sign. You didn't even try to debunk the article I provided.

There is no scar or entry hole that could possibly support this scenario. Neither is there any wreckage to be seen in front of the building. Precious little wreckage was found inside the building either. The plane

As usual, the "believers" choose to sidetrack and derail, without approaching the issue like a true debate. Jhony5 and Hamza aside, no real effort is being made to address the real issues.

Lethal agrees with me that Bush knew about the attacks in one thread, and calls us conspiracy nuts in this one. Make up your fucking mind, dipshit.

Here's a debate between a rep from Popular Mechanics magazine, and a rep from the makers of the most-watched internet movie, Loose Change.

And Hugo a gogo, if you parrot any more rightard shit-for-brains remarks, without referencing them, or trying to explain them, your arse in the box for a week.

This quote is from the link above. I've read snafu's explanation of the wings folding in and being engulfed in flame. I can understand that somewhat, because the wings are full of fuel, usually, but there were two jet engines mounted on those wings, made of titanium and steel. Where are those fucking engines? And where are the entry holes for those fucking engines?

AMY GOODMAN: I do want to go to another clip of the movie, though, of the film. I want to turn to Loose Change, the part that does deal with the damage to the Pentagon. It begins with a clip of CNN's coverage on 9/11.

 

NARRATOR: These photos were taken before the roof of the outer ring had collapsed. The only visible damage to the outer wall is a single hole no more than 16 feet in diameter. A Boeing 757 is 155 feet long, 44 feet high, has 124-foot wingspan and weighs almost 100 tons. Are we supposed to believe that it disappeared into this hole without leaving any wreckage on the outside? Why is there no damage from where the wings or the vertical stabilizer or the engines would have slammed into the building?

 

Remember how big the engines were? If six tons of steel and titanium slammed into the Pentagon at 530 miles per hour, they would bury themselves inside the building leaving two very distinct imprints. And yet the only damage to the outer wall is this single hole with no damage from where the engines would have hit. Why are the windows next to the hole completely intact? Why are the cable spools in front of the hole unmoved?

Hamza is truly a fuckin' loon. Occam's razor folks. What happened to Flight 77?

 

This is what happened to it: http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Fucking Rense???? Bwahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:rolleyes:

The only truly fucked up looney here is you, Hugo a gogo.