Hitlary and Buckwheat Ducked Gun Control Issue, Why?

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Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

Tuesday, March 25, 2008

WASHINGTON - When Supreme Court justices debate the legality of the District

of Columbia's ban on handguns in coming weeks, their file will include a

legal brief from Vice President Dick Cheney, Arizona Sen. John McCain and 54

other senators asking that the law be overturned.

But they won't find anything from Democratic Sens. Hillary Clinton of New

York or Barack Obama of Illinois. They didn't sign the rival brief from

other members of Congress who back the tough handgun restrictions.

The Democratic presidential candidates' silence is part of a pattern. For

years, the national party has downplayed its historic sympathy for gun

control for fear that emphasizing it would be politically costly.

Democratic politicians are "nervous about the gun issue, so they stay away

from it," said Paul Helmke, the president of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun

Violence.

Gun-rights advocates described the Democrats' dilemma in starker terms.

"The fact is that politicians have discovered there are 80 million

law-abiding gun owners, and they're mad as all get out at politicians who

want to take their guns away," said John Snyder, a spokesman for the

Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Democrats have been skittish about gun control since 1994. Their support for

a strong anti-crime bill that summer, which included a ban on 19 types of

assault weapons, was later seen by many party strategists as one reason that

the party that year lost control of both houses of Congress for the first

time in 40 years.

Six years later, after Vice President Al Gore lost states with large numbers

of gun-rights advocates, many Democrats again saw gun control as a key

reason he lost the presidential election.

"The NRA (National Rifle Association) had enough votes in New Hampshire, in

Arkansas, maybe in Tennessee and Missouri to beat us," Bill Clinton said

after the election, "and they whipped us in a few other places."

In 2004, Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts

touted his credentials as a hunter. Current Democratic Party Chairman Howard

Dean has said that guns are a state issue.

The Brady group counters that in 2006 Democrats won five gubernatorial and

four Senate races against tough-on-guns advocates endorsed by the NRA. But

in every case, the winning Democrat already was a popular figure, and most

were running in states where most residents were sympathetic to gun

restrictions.

The gun issue this year is being driven by the District of Columbia case.

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments last week and will issue a decision

by late June.

McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, joined a group that

included Cheney as well as 46 other Republican and eight Democratic

senators, most from rural or Southern states, in signing a brief that seeks

to bring Congress' "unique perspective to this court's attention."

The brief explains "the historical meaning of the Second Amendment as

understood by the Congress," and argues that the handgun ban infringes on

"the rights of law-abiding citizens . . . as guaranteed by the Second

Amendment."

The amendment, in its entirety, says: "A well regulated Militia, being

necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep

and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

A rival brief, signed by 18 Democratic members of Congress, counters that

lawmakers long have had the right to regulate - and ban - "the use and

possession of certain weapons."

Clinton and Obama have long histories of sympathy for that view.

When Obama first ran for the Illinois Senate 12 years ago, he answered "yes"

to whether he backed banning the manufacture, sale and possession of

handguns in the state.

He's softened that position in recent years. When she was asked why Obama

didn't sign one of the Supreme Court briefs, campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki

said, "Barack Obama believes the Second Amendment creates an individual

right, and he greatly respects the constitutional right of Americans to bear

arms."

But, she added, "he also believes that the Constitution permits state and

local governments to adopt reasonable and commonsense gun-safety measures."

She didn't specify what such measures might entail.

Clinton has a long history as an outspoken supporter of tough gun-control

measures, but she, too, has moderated in recent months; last month in

Wisconsin, she described how she once went hunting in Arkansas and shot a

banded duck.

At a January debate, she called herself a "political realist, and I

understand that the political winds are very powerful against doing enough

to try to get guns off the street."

Her words were almost identical to those of Obama; "I believe in the Second

Amendment," she said. "People have a right to bear arms. But I also believe

that we can commonsensically approach this."

Gun control advocates hear comments such as these and figure that 2008 will

be another year when their cause will be hard to notice.

Politicians "don't want to have that rock in their knapsack," said Roy

Romer, a former Colorado governor and former Democratic Party general

chairman. "I've seen the National Rifle Association guys sit in the front

row of their town hall meetings. It's a tough thing."

In case Clinton or Obama forgets the gun owners' message, gun-advocate

Snyder is ready to offer them a vivid reminder.

"This is going to be a big issue, because when people keep worrying about

the situation in the world, they will worry about their ability to defend

themselves," he said.

Not all is hopeless, though, gun-controller Helmke said, because guns are an

issue that can erupt into the nation's conscience at any time. Wait until

May or June, when the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the Washington

case, he said.

"When that decision comes down," Helmke said, "candidates will be asked to

say something, and to say something concrete."

ON THE WEB

Obama's and Clinton's responses to a gun control question at a January

candidates debate:

A video clip of Clinton talking about her duck-hunting experience:

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/18/good-hill-hunting/

In article <47ea3cb1$0$30679$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,

"Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote:

> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/31563.html

>

> Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

Because you can't have a socialist state if the population is well armed.

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> In article <47ea3cb1$0$30679$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,

> "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote:

>

>> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/31563.html

>>

>> Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

>

> Because you can't have a socialist state if the population is well armed.

>

> --

> NeoLibertarian

>

> http://www.elihu.envy.nu/NeoPics/UncleHood.jpg

The USSC will decide shortly.

That will put the controversy

to bed once and for all.

Be patient.

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Friedan, as the writer of "The Feminen Mystique" and founder of

NOW, really

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By Michael Shaprio

# 56 Betty Friedan (b. 1921)

Born Betty Naomi Goldstein to Harry and Miriam (Horowitz) Goldstein in

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best-selling author, professor, a founder of the National Organization

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In article <vBvGj.26295$vr3.3545@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,

"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> "Neolibertarian" <cognac756@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:cognac756-CFD06D.10525326032008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com...

> > In article <47ea3cb1$0$30679$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,

> > "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote:

> >

> >> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/31563.html

> >>

> >> Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

> >

> > Because you can't have a socialist state if the population is well armed.

> >

> > --

> > NeoLibertarian

> >

> > http://www.elihu.envy.nu/NeoPics/UncleHood.jpg

>

> The USSC will decide shortly.

> That will put the controversy

> to bed once and for all.

>

What the SCOTUS will decide is the fictions we'll have to live with for

some time to come.

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FACT: The Jews have been expelled from almost every Western country at

one time or another, including Britain, Spain, France, Portugal and

Germany.

FACT: Virtually all the major media outlets, including TV networks,

newspapers, movie studios and book publishers, are owned or controlled

by Jews.

FACT: The major media incessantly harps on any white-on-black crime

(such as the Jasper TX dragging), yet ignores the much greater number

of black- on-white crimes which are equally horrific yet happen FAR

MORE FREQUENTLY.

FACT: Communism was a largely-Jewish phenomenon. Almost all the top

communists of the Russian Revolution were Jews, as well as almost all

the atomic spies, and the Revolution was financed in large measure by

Wall Street Jews.

FACT: In the late 1920s the Communist Party USA decided on a policy of

destroying American society by pushing 'racial equality'.

FACT: The NAACP was founded principally by Jews, and Jews remained in

charge of the organization till 1970.

FACT: Most of the 'Orthodox Jewish version' of the Holocaust is false,

(and in fact is significantly based on 'confessions' of Germans at the

Nuremberg Military Tribunal obtained under torture), and numerous

Jewish scholars have actually acknowledged this. (The stories

acknowledged by Jewish scholars to be false include the existence of

homicidal gas chambers, the use of Jewish skin for lampshade coverings

and Jewish body fat for soap, and the assertion that there were 'Six

Million' Jews killed by the nazis.) But questioning these

widely-believed but false stories is illegal in most countries of the

Western world, and 8,000 people are in jail in Germany alone for

questioning these and similar dogmas. Can you figure out what powerful

international ethnic group was responsible for causing these laws to

be passed?

FACT: Sympathy and guilt for the (largely false) story of the

Holocaust has resulted in the payment of close to a hundred billion

dollars to Israel by the German government. Furthermore, Jews

everywhere continue to use the Holocaust as a tool for extracting

money from gentiles, whether thru the movies (more than 400 have been

made on this subject), Holocaust museums, 'reparations' (more than a

billion from the Swiss, billions from German companies, etc) and the

like. There is a saying widely used among Jews which goes, "There's no

business like Shoah [Holocaust] business." Can you figure out why the

Jewish establishment has been so eager to suppress questioning of the

Holocau$$$t dogma?

FACT: Israel is the only 'Western' country to legally sanction

torture, and the Israeli Defense Forces use bone-breaking and

shoot-to-maim policies against Palestinians, and even reporters.

FACT: Jewish political influence has been the principal force

attempting to nullify our Constitution, and particularly the freedoms

enjoyed under the Bill of Rights. For example, Jews have been the

major force behind 'gun control' (ie, the attempt to nullify the

Second Amendment), integration and affirmative action (to nullify

freedom of association), 'hate crimes' (laying the foundation for

suppressing freedom of speech), immigration (introducing large numbers

of unassimilable nonwhites which will effectively destroy American

culture and ideals), anti-militia statutes and similar efforts.

Source

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> >> Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

>

> > Because you can't have a socialist state if the population is well armed.

>

> > --

> > NeoLibertarian

>

> >http://www.elihu.envy.nu/NeoPics/UncleHood.jpg

>

> The USSC will decide shortly.

> That will put the controversy

> to bed once and for all.

The last thing the Scalito Court wants is anything put to rest. There

will be some meaningless dicta about "individualists" and no decision

whatsoever on how much stoppin' power is to much to be constitutional.

Bret Cahill

In article

<7daa35ce-6a74-4725-aca3-53802603462c@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

Bret Cahill <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote:

> > >> Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

> >

> > > Because you can't have a socialist state if the population is well armed.

> >

> > > --

> > > NeoLibertarian

> >

> > >http://www.elihu.envy.nu/NeoPics/UncleHood.jpg

> >

> > The USSC will decide shortly.

> > That will put the controversy

> > to bed once and for all.

>

> The last thing the Scalito Court wants is anything put to rest. There

> will be some meaningless dicta about "individualists" and no decision

> whatsoever on how much stoppin' power is to much to be constitutional.

>

You haven't been following along at all if you think the current SCOTUS

is the "Scalito Court."

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NeoLibertarian

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"Bret Cahill" <BretCahill@aol.com> wrote in message

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>> >> Why have Clinton and Obama ducked gun control issue?

>> > Because you can't have a socialist state if the population is well

>> > armed.

>> The USSC will decide shortly.

>> That will put the controversy

>> to bed once and for all.

> The last thing the Scalito Court wants is anything put to rest. There

> will be some meaningless dicta about "individualists"

No. Their decision will be plain and simple.

> and no decision

> whatsoever on how much stoppin' power is to much to be constitutional.

Which has NOTHING to do with the Right anyway....

Try to pay attention.

In addition to that below, Jews have funded and run most anti-RTKBA

organizations. Their plans for globalist dictator-ship cannot be

implemented so long as patriotic Americans have the means to resist -

as guaranteed them by the Founders.

Jews and U.S. Gun Control Legislation, 1968-Present

Note: this webpage is a work-in-progress. More information will be

added later. This information shows that, contrary to some claims,

Jews have sponsored or co-sponsored most modern anti-gun legislation.

1968: The Gun Control Act of 1968 comes from Jewish Rep. Emanuel

Celler's House bill H.R. 17735. It expands legislation already

attempted by the non-Jewish Sen. Thomas Dodd. America's biggest and

most far-reaching gun law came from a Jew [1].

1988: Senate bill S. 1523 is sponsored by Jewish Senator Howard

Metzenbaum. It proposes legislation turning every violation of the Gun

Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense, allowing a gun

owner to be charged with federal racketeering offenses.

1988: Senator Metzenbaum co-sponsors a bill-S. 2180 -- to ban, or

limit/restrict, so-called "plastic guns."

1990: Jewish Senator Herbert Kohl introduces bill S.2070, the Gun-Free

School Zones Act of 1990, which bans gun possession in a school zone.

The law will later be struck down in court as unconstitutional.

1993: Senate bill S.653 is sponsored by Sen. Howard Metzenbaum. It

bans specific semiautomatic rifles, but also gives the Secretary of

the Treasury the power to add any semiautomatic firearm to the list at

a later date.

February, 1994: The Brady Law, which requires waiting periods to buy

handguns, becomes effective. Senator Metzenbaum wrote the Brady Bill.

Metzenbaum sponsored the bill in the Senate. The sponsor of the bill

in the House was Jewish Rep. Charles Schumer [2].

1994: Senator Metzenbaum introduces S.1878, the Gun Violence

Prevention Act of 1994, aka "Brady II." Rep. Schumer sponsored "Brady

II" sister legislation [H.R. 1321] in the U.S. House of

Representatives.

September, 1994: The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of

1994 goes into effect, including a provision that bans the manufacture

and possession of semiautomatic rifles described as "assault weapons."

[Note: true assault weapons are fully automatic, not semiautomatic].

That gun-ban provision was authored in the Senate by Jewish Senator

Dianne Feinstein and authored in the House by Congressman Schumer.

1995: Jewish Senators Kohl, Specter, Feinstein, Lautenberg and others

introduce the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1995, an amended version of

the 1990 school-zone law which was struck down in court as being

unconstitutional.

September, 1996: The Lautenberg Domestic Confiscation provision

becomes law. It is part of a larger omnibus appropriations bill. It

was sponsored by Jewish Senator Frank Lautenberg. It bans people

convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence from ever owning a gun.

1997: Senate bill S. 54, the Federal Gang Violence Act of 1997,

proposes much harsher sentences for people violating minor gun laws,

including mandatory prison sentences and forfeiture of property. It

was introduced by Dianne Feinstein and a non-Jewish Senator [Hatch],

among others. It returns the idea of turning every violation of the

Gun Control Act of 1968 into a RICO predicate offense.

January, 1999: Jewish Senator Barbara Boxer introduces bill S.193, the

American Handgun Standards Act of 1999.

January, 1999: Senator Kohl introduces bill S.149, the Child Safety

Lock Act of 1999. It would to require a child safety lock in

connection with transfer of a handgun.

February, 1999: Senator Frank Lautenberg introduces bill S.407, the

Stop Gun Trafficking Act of 1999.

February, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces S.443, the Gun Show

Accountability Act of 1999.

March, 1999: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.560, the Gun

Industry Accountability Act of 1999.

March, 1999: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.594, the Large

Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban Act of 1999.

May, 2000: Senate bill S. 2515, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale

Act of 2000, is submitted by Senators Feinstein, Senator Barbara

Boxer, Sen. Lautenberg and Sen. Schumer. It is a plan for a national

firearms licensing system.

January, 2001: Senate bill S.25, Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale

Act of 2001, is sponsored by Feinstein, Schumer, and Boxer. It is a

nation-wide gun registration plan [apparently there were two versions

of that Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act bill].

May, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer and others introduce

legislation that would reauthorize the 1994 federal assault weapons

ban, and, close a loophole in the law that allows large-capacity

ammunition magazines to be imported into the U.S. The ban is scheduled

to expire in September, 2004.

October, 2003: Senators Feinstein, Lautenberg, Levin [also Jewish] and

Schumer co-sponsor bill S.1774, designed to stop the sunset [ending]

of the Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988.

March, 2005: Senator Lautenberg introduces bill S.645, "to reinstate

the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," in

other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as

the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994"] which

expired in late 2004.

March, 2005: Senator Feinstein introduces bill S.620, "to reinstate

the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act," in

other words, to reinstate the 1994 assault-rifle ban [also known as

the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994"] which

expired in late 2004.

[1] Celler's bill as the base or foundation of the Gun Control Act of

1968: Here or Here

http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/lopez/5thcir.htm

http://www.guncite.com/journals/hardfopa.html#fn102

[2] a long list of the anti-gun bills sponsored by Schumer, Here

[footnote #36]

http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/Healey1.htm

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