Guest Patriot Games Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/las_vegas_debate_democrat/2007/11/15/49914.html Hillary Rips Rivals in Democratic Debate Thursday, November 15, 2007 LAS VEGAS -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of the Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at their records. "People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead," Clinton said, striving to protect her standing as front-runner in an increasingly competitive nominating campaign. "What the American people are looking for right now is straight answers to tough questions, and that is not what we have seen from Senator Clinton on a host of issues," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a debate seven weeks before the first contest of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination. "There's nothing personal about this," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who joined Obama in bluntly accusing Clinton of forever switching positions on Social Security, driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and other issues. turning aside the suggestion that she was seeking to hide her positions. Long an advocate of universal health care, she said Obama's current proposal leaves millions uncovered and that Edwards did not support health care for all when he first ran for president in 2004. The three-way confrontation at the beginning of a lengthy debate reduced the other Democratic presidential hopefuls on the debate stage to the uncomfortable role of spectator, yet it perfectly captured the race for the party's nomination. Clinton leads in the nationwide polls, but recent surveys in Iowa show she is in a virtual dead heat with Obama and Edwards. For Richardson, Sens. Joseph Biden of Delaware and Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, the opening moments were frustrating - and they repeatedly tried to break in. "O, no, don't make me speak," Biden said in mock horror when moderator Wolf Blitzer of CNN called on him roughly 15 minutes into the proceedings. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, who has campaigned in Nevada more than any other presidential hopeful, took verbal shots at Clinton and her two closest pursuers in the polls. "Let's stop the mudslinging," he said. Yet Richardson, who has campaigned in Nevada more than any other presidential hopeful, took verbal shots at Clinton and her two closest pursuers in the polls. He said Edwards is engaging in class warfare, Obama was trying to start a generational war and Clinton, "with all due respect with her plan on Iraq doesn't end the war. All I want to do is give peace a chance." Richardson was in the minority when the candidates were asked whether human rights could ever trump national security. He said it could; Clinton said it could not, and Dodd said "obviously national security." Obama challenged the question, saying "the concepts are not contradictory." Clinton seemed intent on redeeming what even she conceded was a sub-par performance at the previous debate, turning aside criticism from her rivals and answering questions with practiced ease. Asked whether she was guilty of playing the "gender card" in her drive to become the first female president, she said she had not. "I'm not playing the gender card here in Las Vegas," a magnet for gamblers. "I'm trying to play the winning card," she said. Obama was the first to challenge Clinton, saying it took two weeks to "get a clear answer" on whether she supports or opposes issuing driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. "The same is true on Social Security," he said. For the first time in a debate since the campaign began, Clinton swiftly answered in kind. "When it came time to step up and decide whether or not he would support universal health care coverage he chose not to do that," she said of Obama. She added his plan would leave 15 million people without coverage - the population of Iowa and three other early voting states in the nominating campaign. Edwards was next to accuse Clinton of trying to have it both ways - with the war in Iraq, Social Security and defining the scope of President Bush's power to use military force against Iran. "She says she will bring change to Washington while she continues to defend a system that does not work, that is broken, that is rigged, that is corrupt," added the former North Carolina senator. "I've just been personally attacked again," Clinton broke in. "I don't mind taking hits on my record on issues, but when somebody starts throwing mud at least we can hope it's accurate and not right out of the Republican playbook." The debate unfolded on a stage at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas. The state holds caucuses on Jan. 19 - following Iowa on Jan. 3 and most likely the New Hampshire primary several days later. The focus on Clinton from the debate's opening moments was hardly surprising. The New York senator herself has conceded she turned in a sub-par performance at the last debate, when she stumbled on a question about driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. Her husband, the former president, leapt to her defense in the interim, saying of her rivals: "Those boys have been getting tough on her lately." The setting underscored Nevada's newly prominent role in the nominating process. The state is far more racially diverse than either Iowa or New Hampshire, with a population that is about 22 percent Hispanic and 10 percent black. Democrats in Nevada hoped the focus on their state would prompt candidates to pay closer heed to Western issues like water, grazing and mining rights. But it was more than an hour into the two-hour debate before the issue of energy came up. Instead, Clinton drew the first question - and moments later the first barb from Obama. Despite her critics, she said, "I think the American people know where I've stood for 35 years," adding she had been fighting for children, workers, families and universal health care. More than an hour later, Dodd sought to turn the focus back onto Clinton, saying she had changed positions on trade by announcing her support for a deal with Peru at the same time she advocates a "time out" for such agreements. Moments earlier, Clinton gave a careful answer when asked whether she now viewed the North American Free Trade Agreement - a product of her husband's administration - to be a mistake. "NAFTA is a mistake to the extent it did not deliver what we hoped it would," she said. And she fielded another question about NAFTA with a quip. Asked whether she now believes Ross Perot when he argued against NAFTA in a 1993 debate with her husband's vice president, Al Gore, she said: "All I can remember from that is a bunch of charts," a reference to Perot's penchant for presenting information in made-for-television format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Topaz Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Goebbels speech on March 18, 1933: "German women, German men ! It is a happy accident that my first speech since taking charge of the Ministry for Propaganda and People's Enlightenment is to German women. Although I agree with Treitschke that men make history, I do not forget that women raise boys to manhood. You know that the National Socialist movement is the only party that keeps women out of daily politics. This arouses bitter criticism and hostility, all of it very unjustified. We have kept women out of the parliamentary-democratic intrigues of the past fourteen years in Germany not because we do not respect them, but because we respect them too much. We do not see the woman as inferior, rather as having a different mission, a different value, than that of the man. Therefore we believed that the German woman, who more than any other in the world is a woman in the best sense of the word, should use her strength and abilities in other areas than the man. The woman has always been not only the man's sexual companion, but also his fellow worker. Long ago, she did heavy labor with the man in the field. She moved with him into the cities, entering the offices and factories, doing her share of the work for which she was best suited. She did this with all her abilities, her loyalty, her selfless devotion, her readiness to sacrifice. The woman in public life today is no different than the women of the past. No one who understands the modern age would have the crazy idea of driving women from public life, from work, profession, and bread winning. But it must also be said that those things that belong to the man must remain his. That includes politics and the military. That is not to disparage women, only a recognition of how she can best use her talents and abilities. Looking back over the past year's of Germany's decline, we come to the frightening, nearly terrifying conclusion, that the less German men were willing to act as men in public life, the more women succumbed to the temptation to fill the role of the man. The feminization of men always leads to the masculinization of women. An age in which all great idea of virtue, of steadfastness, of hardness and determination have been forgotten should not be surprised that the man gradually loses his leading role in life and politics and government to the woman. It may be unpopular to say this to an audience of women, but it must be said, because it is true and because it will help make clear our attitude toward women. The modern age, with all its vast revolutionary transformations in government, politics, economics and social relations has not left women and their role in public life untouched. Things we thought impossible several years or decades ago are now everyday reality. Some good, noble and commendable things have happened. But also things that are contemptible and humiliating. These revolutionary transformations have largely taken from women their proper tasks. Their eyes were set in directions that were not appropriate for them. The result was a distorted public view of German womanhood that had nothing to do with former ideals. A fundamental change is necessary. At the risk of sounding reactionary and outdated, let me say this clearly: The first, best, and most suitable place for the women is in the family, and her most glorious duty is to give children to her people and nation, children who can continue the line of generations and who guarantee the immortality of the nation. The woman is the teacher of the youth, and therefore the builder of the foundation of the future. If the family is the nation's source of strength, the woman is its core and center. The best place for the woman to serve her people is in her marriage, in the family, in motherhood. This is her highest mission. That does not mean that those women who are employed or who have no children have no role in the motherhood of the German people. They use their strength, their abilities, their sense of responsibility for the nation, in other ways. We are convinced, however, that the first task of a socially reformed nation must be to again give the woman the possibility to fulfill her real task, her mission in the family and as a mother. The national revolutionary government is everything but reactionary. It does not want to stop the pace of our rapidly moving age. It has no intention of lagging behind the times. It wants to be the flag bearer and pathfinder of the future. We know the demands of the modern age. But that does not stop us from seeing that every age has its roots in motherhood, that there is nothing of greater importance than the living mother of a family who gives the state children. German women have been transformed in recent years. They are beginning to see that they are not happier as a result of being given more rights but fewer duties. They now realize that the right to be elected to public office at the expense of the right to life, motherhood and her daily bread is not a good trade. A characteristic of the modern era is a rapidly declining birthrate in our big cities. In 1900 two million babies were born in Germany. Now the number has fallen to one million. This drastic decline is most evident in the national capital. In the last fourteen years, Berlin's birthrate has become the lowest of any European city. By 1955, without emigration, it will have only about three million inhabitants. The government is determined to halt this decline of the family and the resulting impoverishment of our blood. There must be a fundamental change. The liberal attitude toward the family and the child is responsible for Germany's rapid decline. We today must begin worrying about an aging population. In 1900 there were seven children for each elderly person, today it is only four. If current trends continue, by 1988 the ratio will be 1 : 1. These statistics say it all. They are the best proof that if Germany continues along its current path, it will end in an abyss with breathtaking speed. We can almost determine the decade when Germany collapses because of depopulation. We are not willing to stand aside and watch the collapse of our national life and the destruction of the blood we have inherited. The national revolutionary government has the duty to rebuilt the nation on its original foundations, to transform the life and work of the woman so that it once again best serves the national good. It intends to eliminate the social inequalities so that once again the life of our people and the future of our people and the immortality of our blood is assured..." http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/ http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AnAmericanCitizen Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:16:28 -0500, "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >LAS VEGAS -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton >accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of the >Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at >their records. I guess "right out of the Republican playbook" is her new replacement for "right wing conspiracy." Is anybody else as tired of this woman as I am?.....AAC Hillary is a Leona Helmsley - a woman driven by personal ambition and utterly ruthless in achieving her goals. She's a micromanager and totally deaf to her underlings - and you, the left, would be her underlings. I really think you'd enjoy the experience even less than the right. We may wind up chained to the oars down below in her personal barge on the Potomic just like you, but we can always say, "See I Told You So!"....Clint Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AnAmericanCitizen Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:16:28 -0500, "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> wrote: >http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/las_vegas_debate_democrat/2007/11/15/49914.html > >Hillary Rips Rivals in Democratic Debate > "Diamonds v. Pearls" Student Blasts CNN 16 Nov 2007 11:21 am Maria Luisa, the UNLV student who asked Hillary Clinton whether she preferred "diamonds or pearls" at last night's debate wrote on her MySpace page this morning that CNN forced her to ask the frilly question instead of a pre-approved query about the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository. "Every single question asked during the debate by the audience had to be approved by CNN," Luisa writes. "I was asked to submit questions including "lighthearted/fun" questions. I submitted more than five questions on issues important to me. I did a policy memo on Yucca Mountain a year ago and was the finalist for the Truman Scholarship. For sure, I thought I would get to ask the Yucca question that was APPROVED by CNN days in advance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Duke Of Earl Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 When hillary sits down her fat ass spreads all over the chair. Someone should tell her to close her legs her breath stinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nubs Barker Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Duke Of Earl <stingray66@earthlink.net> wrote: > When hillary sits down her fat ass spreads all over the chair. Someone > should tell her to close her legs her breath stinks > > > Her husband had consensual sex with a female. Later, respectable republicans like Foley and Larry Craig spoke out and let the world be aware of their abject revulsion over men having consensual sex acts, especially with wimminfolk. Lefties have no decency. Wednesday, May 11, 2005 Another Republican Animal Lover Well sure, its easy to be against abortion if you only have sex with animals: Last night, anti-abortion extremist Neal Horsley was a guest on The Alan Colmes Show, a FOX News radio program. The topic was an interesting one - whether or not an internet service provider should allow Horsley to post the names of abortion doctors on his website. Horsley does that as a way of targeting them and one doctor has been killed. In the course of the interview, however, Colmes asked Horsley about his background, including a statement that he had admitted to engaging in homosexual and bestiality sex. At first, Horsley laughed and said, "Just because it's printed in the media, people jump to believe it." "Is it true?" Colmes asked. "Hey, Alan, if you want to accuse me of having sex when I was a fool, I did everything that crossed my mind that looked like I..." AC: "You had sex with animals?" NH: "Absolutely. I was a fool. When you grow up on a farm in Georgia, your first girlfriend is a mule." AC: "I'm not so sure that that is so." NH: "You didn't grow up on a farm in Georgia, did you?" AC: "Are you suggesting that everybody who grows up on a farm in Georgia has a mule as a girlfriend?" NH: It has historically been the case. You people are so far removed from the reality... Welcome to domestic life on the farm..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:u04tj3dhn86q7q92v5tb7tu54n67u6csr7@4ax.com... > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:16:28 -0500, "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.com> > wrote: >>LAS VEGAS -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham >>Clinton >>accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of >>the >>Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at >>their records. > I guess "right out of the Republican playbook" is her new replacement for > "right wing > conspiracy." > Is anybody else as tired of this woman as I am?.....AAC Apparently ANYONE who attacks her is a Republican!!! Hahahahahhaha!!!! I never expected to see eliteness carried to such ridiculous extremes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AnAmericanCitizen Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:39:09 -0500, Nubs Barker <nubs.barker@cox.net> wrote: >Her husband had consensual sex with a female. Not to mention non-consensual sex and uncomsummated sex, with unwilling females. As Governor of Arkansas and as president of the U.S., he forced himself on women. He's a pervert and an embarrasment and disgrace to our country. It's almost unbelievable that there are Americans willing to allow him back into the white house along with the woman who made it her business to destroy any women that tried to bring to light the truth about him. So much for the feminists who say they are standing up for all women while at the same time they are supporting these people.....AAC Quote Of The Week "The Clintons Are A Terminally Unethical And Vulgar Couple, And They've Betrayed Everyone Who Has Ever Believed In Them." - Bob Herbert, Columnist NY Times (Thanks, Harry) Bill Clinton's extravagant post-presidency has cost the American taxpayer far more than Bush 41 and more than Ford and Carter combined. Yet, this elegant, taxpayer-provided lifestyle has not kept the luxury-obsessed boy president from devoting himself to amassing a multi-million dollar fortune through shameless money-grubbing across the globe, often from unsavory sources. "Clinton Crack-Up: The Boy President's Life After the White House" By: R. Emmett Tyrrell Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Topaz Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Jewish Domination of Women's, Sex, and 'Gender Issue' Groups Why are so many Jews at the helm of ostensibly non-Jewish organizations? from Jew Watch Research Library EDITOR'S NOTE: What appears at first to be merely a list of names and groups makes a powerful impression-when it gradually dawns upon the reader that one particular Middle Eastern ethnic group has such a powerful influence on almost every organization of consequence in the fields that directly impact our genetic future. You'll notice that both sides of some issues are represented here: Just as with disproportionate Jewish influence on both Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives, we also find Jews managing and chairing both "feminist" and "anti-feminist" groups, etc., in the process making sure that Jewish interests are advanced no matter which side wins the "public debate." Planned Parenthood Federation of America, President: Gloria Feldt "At the tenth annual Power of One event, over 600 women gathered in San Francisco to celebrate their commitment to the Jewish Community Federation. They were inspired by messages from Jan Richer, Liki Abrams, and keynote speaker Gloria Feldt, President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, who spoke eloquently about her Jewish roots, personal challenges and the importance of activism." National Abortion Federation, Chairman: Eric Schaff Feminists for Free Expression, Founder: Marcia Pally Vice President: Marilyn Fitterman Secretary: Jayme Waxman "Jamye Waxman is a writer, producer, performer, sex educator and outspoken advocate for women's sexual liberation. Jamye is currently pursuing her masters in human sexuality education and teaches sexuality classes at a well-know adult toyshop in downtown Manhattan. She is the Associate Producer of the television show Naked New York and a columnist for Playgirl Magazine. She produced 'Love Bytes' with Bob Berkowitz and hosted her own show 'Aural Fixation' on WSEX Radio." Member of Board of Directors: Abby Ehmann "Abby describes herself as a 'Sexpert' and 'New York's preeminent female smutmeister,' began a career in the adult entertainment industry as an Associate Editor at Penthouse Forum. She has also served as Consulting Editor of Masquerade Erotic Newsletter, Girls of Outlaw Biker and Erotica Online. She has written for many sex-oriented publications from Screw and Hustler to Forum and New Rave." National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, Co-Chair: Loren S. Ostrow "Loren Ostrow ... is outgoing President of the Board of Congregation Kol Ami, a predominately gay and lesbian synagogue in West Hollywood, CA, and he previously served as Co-Chair of the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center's Board of Directors." Queer Nation, Co-founder: Alan Klein "Mr. Klein's involvement in social issues and civil rights work has been extensive. He was a founding member of the AIDS activist organization ACT UP and organized several of the group's most successful demonstrations. He also co-founded QUEER NATION ... In 1997, a year television critics will remember as the "Year of the Lesbian," Mr. Klein played a pivotal role in the international media frenzy that accompanied ELLEN DEGENERES' historic announcement. As National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), he orchestrated the media's Ellen coverage from day one. Mr. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM. Alan Klein most recently served as Communications Director for Rainbow25 ..." Museum of Sex, (New York) Executive Director and Founder: Daniel Gluck Erotic Museum, (Los Angeles) CEO: Boris Smorodinsky. Director: Marina Smorodinsky "A desire to make a better life for his family, motivated by the discrimination he felt as a Jew in communist Russia, led Smorodinsky to immigrated to Los Angeles in 1989 ..." National Partnership for Women and Families, President: Judith Lichtman Population Action International, President: Amy Coen National Coalition for Sexual Freedom, Chairperson of the Board of Directors: Vivienne Kramer (Kramer is now confirmed as Jewish: The New Voices Web site states: "[M]ost Jewish BDSM adherents don't mind interpreting halachah to their advantage: Vivienne Kramer, an observant Jew and a fixture on the Northeast fetish scene-she's chair of the New England Leather Alliance and president of the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom-has no problem reconciling her religion with her sexual practices. 'I probably wouldn't play [engage in BDSM] on a Friday night,' she says, merging the two practices into her own version of religious observance.") Children's Defense Fund, Founder and President: Marian Wright Edelman (Married to Peter Edelman). Independent Women's Forum, Chairman: R. Gaull Silberman National Center for Policy Research for Women & Families, President: Diana Zuckerman National Organization for Women Legal Defense and Education Fund (NOWLDEF), Executive Vice-President, and Director of Family Initiative: Leslie J. Calman Vice-President, and Director of National Judicial Education Program: Lynn Hecht Schafran Vice-President,and Director of Government Relations: Lisalyn Jacobs Vice-Chairman of the Board: Stephen L. Hammerman Equality Forum, Executive Director: Malcolm Lazin "Equality Forum presents the largest annual national and international gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender (GLBT) civil rights forum." "B.A.'s [Congregation Beth Ahavah's] own Malcolm Lazin was the featured speaker during a lively and musical service led by David Wise. Malcolm, [is] best known as the founder and executive director of Pridefest America, now Equality Forum ... Originally compiled by Jewish Tribal Review http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/ http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 "Duke Of Earl" <stingray66@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:13ju27r6dspd71c@corp.supernews.com... > When hillary sits down her fat ass spreads all over the chair. Someone > should tell her to close her legs her breath stinks N A S T Y !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 "Nubs Barker" <nubs.barker@cox.net> wrote in message news:MPG.21a8d523239fecae989c54@news.individual.net... > Duke Of Earl <stingray66@earthlink.net> wrote: >> When hillary sits down her fat ass spreads all over the chair. Someone >> should tell her to close her legs her breath stinks > Her husband had consensual sex with a female. Her husband committed adultry with a female nearly his daughter's age by using the persuasive power of the Office of the President of the United States as psychological leverage. He is a sexual predator and a twisted pervert. > Later, respectable republicans like Foley Republicans EXPEL perverts. Foley. Democrats PROTECT perverts. Barney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Michael Ejercito Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 On Nov 18, 8:07 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Jewish Domination of Women's, Sex, and 'Gender Issue' Groups > Why are so many Jews at the helm of ostensibly non-Jewish > organizations? Nazis can not run anything except into the ground. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot Games Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ac980de1-e854-442e-9475-63f44eabd8ec@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > On Nov 18, 8:07 am, Topaz <mars1...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Jewish Domination of Women's, Sex, and 'Gender Issue' Groups >> Why are so many Jews at the helm of ostensibly non-Jewish >> organizations? > Nazis can not run anything except into the ground. That didn't stop them from trying. And it isn't stopping the Socialist democrats from trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Sr. Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 On Nov 19, 5:09 pm, "Treasonous Games" <Patr...@Anti-America.com> wrote: > "Michael Ejercito" <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote... > > Nazis can not run anything except into the ground. > > That didn't stop them from trying. > > And it isn't stopping the Socialist democrats from trying. You fail understand the true political nature and behavior of Nazism. You are blind to the truth. You have no farther to look about what Nazi politics are then to read your own posts, Patriot Games. You have no need to see a TRUE Nazi, in all put the word, than to look in a mirror. You are so blinded by your hatred for others and freedom, you will never understand this. -Tom Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Topaz Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 By Robert N. Proctor The problem with the "science vs. fascism" thesis is that it fails to take into account the eagerness with which many scientists and physicians embraced the Reich, and the many scientific disciplines which actually flourished under the Nazis. Anyone who has ever examined a V-2 engine will have few doubts about this, and there are numerous other examples. During the Nazi era, German scientists and engineers either developed or greatly improved television, jet-propelled aircraft (including the ejection seat), guided missiles, electronic computers, the electron microscope, atomic fission, data-processing technologies, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Topaz Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 This web site explains what is going on with the "left" and the "right" in the modern economic sense. http://www.michaeljournal.org/myth.htm The meaning of "right" and "left" has changed. I stay with the original meaning for the same reason I refuse to call homosexual perverts "gay". The word "gay" was originally a good thing. The right is for outlawing homosexual perversion, prostitution, abortions, heroin, and other bad things. It puts the good of the nation first and ahead of the freedom of individuals to corrupt the culture of the nation. Leftists believe in the Rede of Witchcraft which states-- If it harm none, do what will you will. This sounds nice, but like the apple that the witch gave to Snow White it has poison within. The Rede of Witchcraft is the Bible of liberalism. It would legalize homosexual perversion, prostitution, drugs, etc. The right is for building a great nation. Leftists care only about individual freedom and are opposed to any laws that would make the nation better. There are beaches where normal families will not go because homosexual perverts practice their perversion on the beach. When the liberals say they are for freedom this is kind of thing they are talking about. Of course people should be free to do what they want most of the time. There is no argument there. Liberals are talking about being free to do things that many people object to and want outlawed. Their philosophy, taken to its logical conclusion, would not allow the law that says drivers have to stop at the red lights. Their philosophy would allow heroin to be sold on grocery store shelves and allow ads promoting heroin on TV. Their philosophy would result in chaos and degeneracy. Libertarians are liberals who want freedom for the Ebenezer Scrooges to be as greedy as they want. They have the same philosophy as other leftist who want to legalize heroin and prostitution, namely that the state can't tell them what they can't do. People don't like laws stopping them from doing things, and we should sympathize with that, but sometimes that is not the most important thing. Capitalists want freedom for greed, other liberals want freedom for degeneracy, but good laws would make a nation good. The Communists were leftist and they said they were fighting for freedom. In Spain they sided with the anarchists. The Communists and the anarchists were the same people or the same type of people. The Communists were for having government but only temporarily. They said that their government was necessary only until the whole world was Communist. After the world was Communist they wanted to dissolve the government and have an anarchy. The right wing cares about the future. Leftists only care about the present. If their philosophy results in a nightmare future like in Soylent Green or some other futuristic nightmare they are not interested and insist that nothing could be more important than the freedom of individuals to be as decadent as they want. To see the kind of society libertarians are fighting for see the movie "8MM", they aren't for the snuff part, but other than that it shows liberalism in action. http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/ http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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