Lethalfind Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 HIV Came From Cameroon Chimps, Doctors Confirm http://www.local6.com/health/9274711/detail.html POSTED: 2:34 pm EDT May 25, 2006 WASHINGTON -- Twenty-five years after AIDS emerged as a killer health threat, scientists are confirming that HIV really did originate in wild chimpanzees. Scientists say trackers had to plunge through the dense jungles of Cameroon to collect hundreds of samples of ape droppings. A University of Alabama at Birmingham researcher who led the international team said no one even had the tools to make their conclusions until they spent seven years in the lab developing new testing methods. Beatrice Hahn said the world may not have a cure for AIDS. But she said the findings, published in the journal Science, let researchers make a "check mark" on the box for pinning down the origins. Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. This is interesting because many have made this statement that AIDS came from fucking chimps... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantic Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I don't believe that at all. People have been fucking everything since the beginning of time, so why all of a sudden now does it cause deadly viruses? Quote Do the right thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 I don't believe that at all. People have been fucking everything since the beginning of time, so why all of a sudden now does it cause deadly viruses? Good question, the thing I thought interesting is the article was so short and was making such a huge statement, I would have liked to hear a little more proof. Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallytuck Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 The AIDS research done by the University of Alabama is funded by the National Institute for Health. In other words, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. To be blunt, the U.S. government. Now, not to throw out a bunch of wild theories but there is a certain amount of people out there who believe the U.S. government created the virus in the first place. So, to be fair, I would ask for more credible research before I'd believe the chimp bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Good question, the thing I thought interesting is the article was so short and was making such a huge statement, I would have liked to hear a little more proof. You do know, as a wannabee nurse, that viruses do evolve and occassionally adapt to another species. A simple google produced this more detailed article. news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060525-aids-chimps.html? It appears the first human AIDS victims were a bunch of gay hunters who ate a chimpanzee. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe87 Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 The AIDS research done by the University of Alabama is funded by the National Institute for Health. In other words, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. To be blunt, the U.S. government. Now, not to throw out a bunch of wild theories but there is a certain amount of people out there who believe the U.S. government created the virus in the first place. So, to be fair, I would ask for more credible research before I'd believe the chimp bit. Okay conspirisy theory boy... When looking at disease research the vast majority is done by the U.S., and the focus is on diseases that effect the U.S. (for example while TB still a major killer today, isn't really being paid attention to). Its all about money, medical research is extremely expensive and the U.S. is one of the few who can front the bill to pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
builder Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Okay conspirisy theory boy... When looking at disease research the vast majority is done by the U.S., and the focus is on diseases that effect the U.S. (for example while TB still a major killer today, isn't really being paid attention to). Its all about money, medical research is extremely expensive and the U.S. is one of the few who can front the bill to pay for it. Not so, Australia is at the forefront in many sectors of medical research. I believe the US of A has actually vetoed lengthy testing of our cervical cancer prevention treatment in the aim of saving lives. Australian Researchers working in independent medical research institutes are at the forefront of global research on, for example, cervical cancer, artificial corneas and gene therapies. More here. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHATEVER Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 HIV Came From Cameroon Chimps, Doctors Confirm http://www.local6.com/health/9274711/detail.html POSTED: 2:34 pm EDT May 25, 2006 WASHINGTON -- Twenty-five years after AIDS emerged as a killer health threat, scientists are confirming that HIV really did originate in wild chimpanzees. Scientists say trackers had to plunge through the dense jungles of Cameroon to collect hundreds of samples of ape droppings. A University of Alabama at Birmingham researcher who led the international team said no one even had the tools to make their conclusions until they spent seven years in the lab developing new testing methods. Beatrice Hahn said the world may not have a cure for AIDS. But she said the findings, published in the journal Science, let researchers make a "check mark" on the box for pinning down the origins. [/i] BULLSHIT!! Anyone who believes that is mentally ill. This just proves that they're full of lies! "look everyone! After all this time, even after others proving this couldn't be possible, we've decided we want AIDs to have originated from chimps - Believe us!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 BULLSHIT!! Anyone who believes that is mentally ill. This just proves that they're full of lies! "look everyone! After all this time, even after others proving this couldn't be possible, we've decided we want AIDs to have originated from chimps - Believe us!" It looks like someone is up past his bedtime again. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalfind Posted May 29, 2006 Author Share Posted May 29, 2006 You do know, as a wannabee nurse, that viruses do evolve and occassionally adapt to another species. A simple google produced this more detailed article. news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/060525-aids-chimps.html? It appears the first human AIDS victims were a bunch of gay hunters who ate a chimpanzee. I am aware of that Hugo...its not that I disbelieve what they are saying, that would be incredibly arrogant, more like something you would say, I just thought that the article was pretty short considering the major statement they were making. I believe a disease that can adapt to other species is called Zoomorphic... Quote I am a pathetic piece of shit leeching single mom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 I am aware of that Hugo...its not that I disbelieve what they are saying, that would be incredibly arrogant, more like something you would say, I just thought that the article was pretty short considering the major statement they were making. I believe a disease that can adapt to other species is called Zoomorphic... The article is from a local TV station site. Not where you would expect long, detailed articles. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHATEVER Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 It looks like someone is up past his bedtime again. ? - Actually it was around 7/8:40(where I am)at time I posted this and I'm female which makes the sentence above irrelevant....? so I guess it looks like 'someone' didn't have much to say.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 BULLSHIT!! Anyone who believes that is mentally ill. This just proves that they're full of lies! "look everyone! After all this time, even after others proving this couldn't be possible, we've decided we want AIDs to have originated from chimps - Believe us!" Whatever, We can understand disagreement, but you MUST offer somekind of counter-point in a debate... ESPECIALLY when the orginal point is full of efidentiary support! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHATEVER Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Whatever, We can understand disagreement, but you MUST offer somekind of counter-point in a debate... ESPECIALLY when the orginal point is full of efidentiary support! I replied to this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Um..Am I missing something?....Was 'hugo's comment a 'debate', contrasting what I had said previously?? You are one dumb bitch. You must be black to be that stupid. He was quoting, and referring to, your original comment. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHATEVER Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 You are one dumb bitch. You must be black to be that stupid. He was quoting, and referring to, your original comment. OHHHHH LMAO! (so I was missing something) No - I'm not a dumb bitch - but I obviously made a mistake there...And you have a lot of nerve!! Hello? You didn't even reply to what I'd said before- I think because I merely said your comment was irrelevant you suddenly got pissed and thought any single mistake I now make, makes me a dumb bitch.. And what has being black got to do with anything!?? You're just a racist asswipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHATEVER Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Whatever, We can understand disagreement, but you MUST offer somekind of counter-point in a debate... ESPECIALLY when the orginal point is full of efidentiary support! Okay - now - Ive been through this with 'someguy' already in another thread and I'm not the reppetative type but if and when I have time to waste then I'll argue about this topic yet again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Okay - now - Ive been through this with 'someguy' already in another thread and I'm not the reppetative type but if and when I have time to waste then I'll argue about this topic yet again! Nope, you are just the stupid type. Darwin, we have just found the missing link. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Okay - now - Ive been through this with 'someguy' already in another thread and I'm not the reppetative type but if and when I have time to waste then I'll argue about this topic yet again! You're repetitive enough to comment without adding anything of your own. C'mon, I wanna hear your side too. I must have missed your original argument, so let's hear it! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugo Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 You're repetitive enough to comment without adding anything of your own. C'mon, I wanna hear your side too. I must have missed your original argument, so let's hear it! It is the old AIDS was invented by evil white people to get rid of African-Americans argument presented in socialist alternative African-American newspapers you can find in any inner city. A ridiculously stupid hypothesis. Poisoning watermelons would be much simpler. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 It is the old AIDS was invented by evil white people to get rid of African-Americans argument presented in socialist alternative African-American newspapers you can find in any inner city. A ridiculously stupid hypothesis. Poisoning watermelons would be much simpler. What? Let me get this straight... AIDS was invented by "the evil white man" to wipe out african americans? Whatever, is this true? Do you actually believe that? Just between you and me, If thought that "the white man" was that intelligent and resourceful, I'd submit right now! ... No, wait a minute... Wouldn't it be easier to just round up all of the african americans into extermination camps? That sounds easier than inventing a virus... dunno, I'm gonna smoke a bowl and contemplate this; switching between the history channel and sci-fi. Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallytuck Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 What? Let me get this straight... AIDS was invented by "the evil white man" to wipe out african americans? Whatever, is this true? Do you actually believe that? Just between you and me, If thought that "the white man" was that intelligent and resourceful, I'd submit right now! ... No, wait a minute... Wouldn't it be easier to just round up all of the african americans into extermination camps? That sounds easier than inventing a virus... dunno, I'm gonna smoke a bowl and contemplate this; switching between the history channel and sci-fi. With all the gun-owners in America taking away freedoms from individuals doesn't go over very well. Inventing a virus and spreading it is a lot easier than planning the logistics involved in organizing mass arrests and dealing with the public backlash. Funny how AIDS spread like wildfire in the gay community after a hep vaccination trial. Don't get flu shots. Now that we're into the pico-technology age I don't trust anything the government gives out for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed_Rots_In_Hell Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 With all the gun-owners in America taking away freedoms from individuals doesn't go over very well.Phreakwars, help! I need your handy-dandy idiot to english translator... Does this mean that all of the gun owners are taking away our freedoms -or- does it mean that taking away freedoms doesn't go over very well?????? Inventing a virus and spreading it is a lot easier than planning the logistics involved in organizing mass arrests and dealing with the public backlash.Yeah, sure I just invented a virus last week... oh wait I'm mexican, I don't have the intellect to do it... I'll go ask my neighbor John to invent me a virus to make my roses more fragrant... since it's so easy for white people to invent them. Funny how AIDS spread like wildfire in the gay community after a hep vaccination trial.Those evil WHITE-PEOPLE! Don't get flu shots. Now that we're into the pico-technology age I don't trust anything the government gives out for free.Absolutely not! ...and don't drink milk either (it's white) and the evil white man might start putting some more "designer viruses" in chiterlin's and tortillas just to wipe us all out! Quote The first amendment provides our constitution with its voice. The second amendment provides its teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Yes they said on the History channel without a doubt it came from chimps. The natives used to hunt and eat them. They tried to connect it with leukemia but found it to be a completely different virus. They said the odds of that were astronomical. Also we get a lot of viruses from chimps it's just that they don't mutate to the level Aids and Leukemia has. Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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