'Honor dies where interest lies.'

People like to talk about how to fix global warming and peak oil.

Well, nothing can be done about either of these topics.

Humans are too invested is delusion and money to do a damn thing. And

to do anything substantive would cause a financial and population

backlash of unimaginable proportions.

Lets look at just 'a token move' in the right direction...a move that

wont fix a thing, but would buy us a little more time.

Can we cut back on GNP by 25%?

Cut back on utility use at home by 25%

Cut back on driving by 25%?

Cut back on consumption whether it be food or hard goods by 25%?

Cut back on interstate trucking by 25%?

Cut back on air travel by 25%

And cut back in all related areas that use energy or petrochemicals by

25%?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

The 'public' gets their underpants in a bind when the GNP declines at

all...even when it is still in the positive numbers.

They start a panic in the stock market when the GNP is +1%, so how can

it survive a -25% GNP drop?.

And as for cutting back on our demands...well it goes against the

American dream.

And even if America decided to cut back 25%, that is only a drop in

the bucket, as the rest of the world is ever increasing their demands

on the environment and would soon make up for such a small decrease in

greenhouse gas and fossil fuel depletion.

In addition, if we cut back 100% on the burning of fossil fuels, the

petrochemical business would still deplete our crude oil, albeit on a

longer time scale.

Petrochemicals make up a large portion of crude's importance to

mankind.

A partial list of some of the products made from crude oil.

Solvents Diesel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens

Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires

Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags

Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet

Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player Faucet Washers

Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap

Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone

Deodorant Footballs Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolators Life

Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs

Electrician's Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops

Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair

Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive

Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood

Electric Blankets Glycerin Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots

Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion

Roller Skates Surf Boards Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains

Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses Antifreeze Football

Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs

Combs CD's Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses

Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes

Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages Dentures

Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers Cold cream Movie film Soft

Contact lenses Drinking Cups Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream

Ammonia Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline

http://www.beloit.edu/~SEPM/Geology_and_the_enviro/Petroleum_need.html

Are you starting to see the folly of thinking mankind can stop global

warming or fix our peak oil woes, when our world is built on such a

ludicrous foundation?

But, lets forget the public for a moment and look at someone in the

know.

Matt Savinar is one of the well known names in peak oil circles and

runs the 'Life After the Oil Crash' website and was interviewed in the

movie 'A Crude Awakening.'

In the movie Matt Savinar said he would probably not vote for a

president that would adopt strong peak oil measures, giving an example

of cutting back on auto production which in turn would cut back on

Americas GNP.

So if someone in the know cannot stomach what needs to be done how on

earth could an everyday Joe or Jane do it?

When it comes down to the tough decisions it is always a case

of...honor dies where the interest lies

Fueling the problem of our consumption sickness are the games the

Federal and World banks play with interest rates. They manage the

economies in ways to fuel consumption and mask the real trend.

Witness the constant cries for Federal bankers to lower interest

rates...so the stock market can go up...fueled by spending of the

consumer.

The more we consume to bolster our economy, the more fossil fuel we

deplete...the more fossil fuel we deplete the warmer the earth gets.

Yet we talk about fixing global warming and fixing peak oil?

Our consumption sickness is drug habit that Greenspan got us hooked on

and we just can't get away from.

Sure, we were always consumption based, but Greenspan 'mainlined our

drug' to us and once we got a taste, we were sunk. Even now, the

government is proposing ways to help the consumer keep spending while

we are suffering through the sub-prime lending debacle.

Our economy is not based on sustainable health - it is based low

interest credit to encourage compulsive spending, debt and living a

life of constant consumption with a 'disposable mentality' when it

comes to durable goods.

The US is built on consumer consumption to artificially fuel our

economy to make our retirement funds only go up. Then the governments

juggle the numbers to make the inflation figures seem artificially

low, so everyone's retirement portfolio will make them happy so they

will continue to buy and consume more...and on it goes....it is all we

know.

The US GDP is based 70% on consumer spending. Our economy is based on

the philosophy of constant consumption. Our cars are not made to last,

nor is our economy built on such ideals of durability. We are slaves

of fashion and progress and every car produced sucks down more crude

in its manufacturing as well as heats up our planet in the process.

Matt Savinar may not have been exactly right when he said "oil is our

god" in the movie Crude Awakening - our real god is CONSUMPTION.

We consume our planet whether it be animal, mineral or even its

environment.

I guess it is just how we humans are.

Mankind is just a little 'too smart' for his environment and learned

to live beyond natures intended means - on 'steroids of crude' so to

speak. But mankind does not seem 'smart enough' to fix the mess that

it has created for itself.

Yes, mankind has done great things over their reign on earth, but we

must always remember nature does not bow to man...it is man that

always bows to nature.

Humans need 'moral guidance' or a moral conscience since they have a

'free will' of sorts or they will self-destruct from wrong actions if

left to their own 'freedom of choice' without this moral conscience.

Actually it is like this.

We are free to do what we want -- but are not free to want what we

want. As all our actions have consequences, and many of our actions

produce consequences that end up destroying peace. (both ours and

other's peace).

This is what separates us from the animals that run solely on

instinct. Humans run by instinct as well as moral guidance.

Sure, most humans try to do good, but when decisions have to be made,

mistakes can and will happen.

And sometime these mistakes lead to ends that just cannot be fixed and

we must accept responsibility for our actions. Once we accept

responsibility, we can at least be at a semblance peace with the

outcome of our actions and recover a modicum of honor in the process.

Take care,

V (Male)

Agnostic Freethinker

Practical Philosopher

Futurist

Urban Homesteader

Agnostic minister of secular humanism to the mind-

manacled...spiritually sick...defiance based atheist.

AA#2

tooth paste? Really?

In any case, its true we are all guilty of indulgence,

I suppose what it comes down to is we need to use more organic

products since they are easily regrown.

but that is not our fault as much as the companies

-It is our fault for not boycotting until it happens