I rewrote this and sent it to the FBI, call me on the phone now CNN! CNN is being paid off, to help

CNN is being paid off, to help kill Brittany Spears for entertainment and to

brainwash the public into thinking that forced medical treatment is the

answer

It is the same group of people controlling CNN now, that set me up and tried

to murder me to keep me quiet!

Like I was, Brittany Spears has been set up by CNN, because she is

exhibiting all the side effects of Psychotropic Drugs, and the News Media

and Medical Profession is in control of it, making it look like they are

going to save her with long term Mental Health Treatment, when it is the

Drugs causing her bad and erotic behavior!

These liars say that she stops taking the Medication just when it is about

to work. That is a lie, it does not make you feel better while on the drugs,

it

makes you feel worse and unaware that your problems are being caused by the

drugs, then when you realize the drugs are no good,

that is when they stop taking the drugs, but the withdrawals cause

erratic and bad behavior for up to a year after stopping taking the drugs.

I am living proof that it Was CNN and the Medical Community that hacked my

computer while I was hunting Bin Laden and his likes, and they tried to set

me up to look like a suicide bomber, and then tried to say that I was nuts,

and they repeatedly had Doctors drug me out of my mind trying to get me to

kill myself! Thoughts of suicide is what all of those drugs case, and you

are so out of it, you run right back to the people who gave you the drugs

and caused the problems, thinking that you are going to get help, but they

give you no help, they only give you more drugs saying that it is for the

side effects, adding more side effects to the point you don't understand

what is going on, and the combined side effects start taking place until you

either commit suicide or murder suicide.

See all my psost on the Internet about this, the enimies of the People of

these United States are using CNN to target and drug Americans out of their

minds, even though other Doctors say that those drugs are the cause of the

Problem.

"kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message

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> Actually, I am beginning to see a pattern here, somebody mentioned PG.

> I've decided to do a little testing. I'll get back to you later on it.

>

> The is a test of your constitutional system. Do not be alarmed, this

> is only a test. Had this been an actual constitutional emergency, you

> would not be seeing this usenet message :

>

> http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

>

> http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

>

> Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that

> link them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of

> power. These basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in

> some regimes than in others, but they all share at least some level of

> similarity.

>

> 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the

> prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins,

> the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the

> regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always

> obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity

> were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually

> coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on

> xenophobia.

>

> 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves

> viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing

> the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda,

> the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by

> marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was

> egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

>

> 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most

> significant common thread among these regimes was the use of

> scapegoating as a means to divert the people's attention from other

> problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in

> controlled directions. The methods of choice--relentless propaganda and

> disinformation--were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite

> "spontaneous" acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists,

> socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional

> national enemies, members of other religions, secularists,

> homosexuals, and "terrorists." Active opponents of these regimes were

> inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

>

> 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always

> identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure

> that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was

> allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The

> military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used

> whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations,

> and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

>

> 5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and

> the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably

> viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-

> abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in

> Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of

> the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

>

> 6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media

> were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to

> stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power

> to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing

> and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and

> implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically

> compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in

> keeping the general public unaware of the regimes' excesses.

>

> 7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security

> apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually

> an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any

> constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting

> "national security," and questioning its activities was portrayed as

> unpatriotic or even treasonous.

>

> 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes,

> the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless

> by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves

> to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray

> themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the

> ruling elite's behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the

> religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the

> illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and

> opponents of the "godless." A perception was manufactured that

> opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

>

> 9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of

> ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large

> corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The

> ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure

> military production (in developed states), but also as an additional

> means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often

> pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of

> interests, especially in the repression of "have-not" citizens.

>

> 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was

> seen as the one power center that could challenge the political

> hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was

> inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass,

> viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being

> poor was considered akin to a vice.

>

> 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.

> Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression

> associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and

> academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and

> the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically

> unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or

> expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed.

> To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national

> interest or they had no right to exist.

>

> 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes

> maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison

> populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked

> power, leading to rampant abuse. "Normal" and political crime were

> often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used

> against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of

> criminals or "traitors" was often promoted among the population as an

> excuse for more police power.

>

> 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and

> close to the power elite often used their position to enrich

> themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would

> receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in

> turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the

> power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other

> sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the

> national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this

> corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the

> general population.

>

> 14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or

> public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with

> candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power

> elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining

> control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising

> opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a

> last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

>

> Does any of this ring alarm bells? Of course not. After all, this is

> America, officially a democracy with the rule of law, a constitution,

> a free press, honest elections, and a well-informed public constantly

> being put on guard against evils. Historical comparisons like these

> are just exercises in verbal gymnastics. Maybe, maybe not.

Hey fool, waving the symbols of the land of my Fathers is not being caught

up in the frenzy of what these Traitors are doing. Your are just trying to

brainwash people into being anti-American!

Check out my Pro-American, Anti-Treasonous Tax and Spend Democratic Party,

and Anti-Treasonous Borrow until Economic Collapse Republican Party, and

Anti-Traitor Campaign.

http://www.josephsbusiness.com/

"MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message

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> Maybe these Marine recruiters should take the day off every time code pink

> veers their skid-row un-bathed stench!

>

> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/findingclarity/archives/130800.asp?from=blog_last3

>

> Before I report on the latest let me say one thing. Dissension is an

> American tradition. Even the "symbolic gestures" passed by many local

> communities are traditions of free speech and discourse that I appreciate,

> and I defend...in principle. In other words, I vigorously defend the

> rights of American Citizens to protest, to pass initiatives and to

> complain.

>

> However.

>

> Freedom of speech works both ways. I have the freedom of dissent too. I

> have the freedom to see what they do and hear what they say and to protest

> them. The fact they are engaged in a free speech activity is not cover

> and shield against retaliation and counter demonstration.

>

> In the case of the Military, Berkeley and Code Pink can harass and protest

> the Marines within the confines of the law and even alter existing law to

> harass them a bit more. Whether or not that is a violation of various

> Federal laws is a matter for lawyers and Judges to determine.

>

> But, Berkeley and Code Pink must remember that they too are subject to

> protests in retaliation, whether in the form of boycotts, public displays

> of disgust and legal action.

>

> One thing I have noticed quite often in these situations is that people

> tend to think free speech creates a vacuum of protection and sanctity. It

> doesn't. In fact it is not a protection of legal action at all, which

> means the vandalism committed by Code Pink is subject to criminal

> prosecution.

>

> Free speech is not a protection against consequence.

>

> In summary, if they have a right to do what they do, I have the same right

> to do what I do, and to join the other bloggers in their efforts to

> protest them.

>

For me, I am not a peace activists like Code Pink, I reasonably engage the

enemies of the People of these United States whenever and where ever I can

smoke them out, but attacking people who could be brought to our side

without force, or be taken out another way, is wrong! I will continue to

help get Bin Laden and his likes, but I am not going to kill innocent people

caught in the crossfire of a Political and Religious motivated War, that is

being instigated by a little over ten thousand Rich Elite, whom make money

off all sides in the conflicts that they finance and instigate. These Rich

Elite financing all the different sides, and whom are instigating the

conflicts, are the true enemies of the People of these United States, and

are truly enemies of all Humanity.

Here I write some of this clearer

"Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Blowback From the GOP's Holy War

> by Juan Cole

> For much of January, one might have thought that the Republican

> candidates for president were already competing against a single

> opponent. Not one called Hillary or Barack, but with a moniker even

> more chilling in the eyes of hard-line Republicans: Islamic fascism.

>

> The American public, worried about mortgages, recession and a

> seemingly interminable war in Iraq, was unimpressed -- those who fear-

> mongered the most about Muslim terrorists have faltered at the polls.

> Even the remaining front-runners, John McCain and Mitt Romney, have

> said bigoted things about Muslims and their religion. But Islamophobia

> as a campaign strategy has failed, and it may well come back to haunt

> the Republicans in the general election.

>

> Back when the GOP presidential field was still flush with tough-

> talking right-wingers, no one was more outrageous in targeting Muslims

> than Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who suggested that Muslim

> terrorists inside America were plotting the imminent detonation of an

> atomic bomb on U.S. soil. How to prevent this Tom Clancy scenario? "If

> it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this

> homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy

> sites in Mecca and Medina," Tancredo declared. "Because that's the

> only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what

> they otherwise might do."

>

> That sort of wild-eyed bigotry only fuels the cycle of mistrust and

> vengeance. One can only imagine how much more difficulty Tancredo

> generated for U.S. diplomats attempting to explain to America's Muslim

> allies why a presidential candidate was talking about nuking Islam's

> holiest cities, the larger with a population nearly that of Houston.

>

> But the failure of Islamophobia as a campaign strategy is no better

> illustrated than by the spectacular flame-out of Rudy Giuliani.

> Throughout his campaign (deep-sixed after his dismal showing in

> Tuesday's Florida primary), the former New York mayor evoked the Sept.

> 11 attacks at an absurd rate. Giuliani and his advisors appeared to

> revel in demonizing Muslims. They also reveled in their own ignorance

> -- never learning the difference between "Islamic" and "Muslim."

>

> "Islamic" has to do with the religion founded by the prophet Mohammed.

> We speak of Islamic ethics or Islamic art, as things that derive from

> the religion. "Muslim," on the contrary, describes the believer. It

> would be perfectly all right to talk about Muslim terrorists, but

> calling them Islamic terrorists or Islamic fascists implies that the

> religion of Islam is somehow essentially connected to those extremist

> movements.

>

> Giuliani complained that during their debates, Democratic rivals

> "never mentioned the word 'Islamic terrorist,' 'Islamic extremist,'

> 'Islamic fascist,' 'terrorist,' whatever combination of those words

> you want to use, [the] words never came up." He added, "I can't

> imagine who you insult if you say 'Islamic terrorist.' You don't

> insult anyone who is Islamic who isn't a terrorist."

>

> But people are not "Islamic," they are Muslim. And one most certainly

> does insult Muslims by tying their religion to movements such as

> terrorism or fascism. Muslims perceive a double standard in this

> regard: Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols would never be called

> "Christian terrorists" even though they were in close contact with the

> Christian Identity Movement. No one would speak of Christofascism or

> Judeofascism as the Republican candidates speak of Islamofascism.

> Muslims point out that persons of Christian heritage invented fascism,

> not Muslims, and deny that Muslim movements have any link to the mass

> politics of the 1930s in Europe.

>

> Giuliani's pledge to take the United States on an offensive against

> Islamic fascism, which he also said would be a long-term battle,

> failed to excite the imagination of voters. It may well have alarmed

> them in a way different from what Giuliani intended: If, by Giuliani's

> logic, the United States is only on the "defensive" now, with wars in

> Afghanistan and Iraq, what would being on the offensive look like?

> Would Giuliani have started four wars? Interestingly, Giuliani did

> especially poorly in Florida among retired and active-duty military

> personnel.

>

> Giuliani was also hurt when the co-chair of his veterans' campaign in

> New Hampshire, John Deady praised Giuliani for being able to stop "the

> rise of the Muslims," an effort necessary to continue, he said, until

> "we defeat them or chase them back to their caves, or, in other words,

> get rid of them." When asked if he was really condemning all members

> of the religion, Deady replied, "I don't subscribe to the principle

> that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They're all Muslims."

> Deady was forced to resign after a video of his remarks was put on the

> web by the Guardian. Other Giuliani advisors have had some bigoted

> things to say about Muslims as well. Rep. Peter King of New York

> complained that "unfortunately we have too many mosques in this

> country." Daniel Pipes, a professional Islamophobe advising Giuliani,

> once said it would be dangerous to let American Muslims vote.

>

> Meanwhile, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who has done well among

> evangelicals but has had difficulty attracting votes from other

> segments of the Republican Party, had a revealing response to the

> assassination of Pakistani politician Benazir Bhutto. "I am making the

> observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our

> border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of

> the border," he said. He added, "And in light of what is happening in

> Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals

> coming across these borders." In fact, there are almost no Pakistani

> illegal aliens to speak of in the United States. Only 13 percent of

> the estimated 12 million persons in the United States illegally are

> estimated to be Asian, but almost all of them are East Asian.

> Pakistani and Indian immigrants, moreover, are among the wealthiest

> immigrants in the country.

>

> Current GOP front-runner John McCain has been prone to hyperbole and

> has let some bigoted statements escape his lips as well. He has said

> that the threat from Islamic extremism is greater than the one

> presented by the Soviet Union. Recently, McCain proclaimed, "I'm not

> interested in trading with al-Qaida. All they want to trade is burqas...

> " The senator seemed to be relating the Muslim custom of veiling to

> terrorism. The Detroit Free Press, whose city has one of the largest

> Muslim populations, reported on Jan. 12 that McCain's remarks were

> hurtful to American Muslims. "Local Muslims say that criticizing al-

> Qaida is legitimate, but wonder why he would make a snide remark about

> a dress? The remark was especially bothersome, some said, considering

> that McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget McCain, is from one of the

> biggest Muslim countries, Bangladesh." One would think that raising a

> daughter from the Muslim world in the United States today would be

> difficult enough, even without the adoptive father's denigrating the

> customs of the women from that culture.

>

> On another occasion, asked whether a Muslim candidate for president

> would be acceptable, McCain replied, "I just have to say in all candor

> that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ...

> personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in

> my faith. But that doesn't mean that I'm sure that someone who is

> Muslim would not make a good president. I don't say that we would rule

> out under any circumstances someone of a different faith. I just would

> -- I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to

> lead."

>

> But according to Article IV of the U.S. Constitution, "no religious

> Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public

> Trust under the United States." Secularists and Jews joined American

> Muslims in condemning McCain's assertion that the United States was

> founded on Christian principles, and that Christian faith could be a

> key determinate for taking the Oval Office.

>

> McCain's misconceptions about Muslims and perceived hostility toward

> them predates his 2008 presidential campaign. In 2005, he said on "The

> Charlie Rose Show" that a Muslim had killed the Indian political and

> spiritual figure Mahatma Gandhi. In fact, the assassin belonged to a

> radical Hindu organization, the RSS.

>

> Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has, like his peers, regularly

> invoked the dangers of "Islamic fascism." He allegedly told one Muslim-

> American he would not put a Muslim in his Cabinet, since there were

> not enough Muslim-Americans to justify it. (Romney later denied the

> charge).

>

> Why might all this rhetoric targeting Muslims be unwise? For one

> thing, allowing the Christian conservative base to set an agenda that

> demonizes Muslims contains the danger of turning off more moderate

> segments of the GOP and American voters at large. McCain's comment on

> the importance of a president's being Christian appeared to have

> backfired on him in precisely that way.

>

> Moreover, Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans are swing voters in key

> states such as Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Florida.

> While they tended to vote for George W. Bush in 2000, by 2004 these

> groups overwhelmingly supported John Kerry, and the heavy-handed and

> bigoted rhetoric of the Republican candidates may drive them away from

> the GOP altogether.

>

> The candidates who played to fears of "Islamic fascism" the most --

> Tancredo, Huckabee and Giuliani -- failed to light any fire under

> partisans in the party, and they have now faded from the scene. But

> the campaign has already left behind a bitter legacy of sloganeering

> against a single religious and ethnic community. The Republicans have

> repeatedly asserted that Islam has been perverted by radicals; their

> rhetoric effectively reduced American Muslims to second-class citizens

> and branded them as suspicious. Perhaps most worrisome of all: If any

> of the remaining candidates does win the presidency, he is going to

> have to cultivate close relations with Middle Eastern regimes to even

> begin resolving the mess in that region. And that president will have

> to do so saddled from the start with a legacy of denigrating Islam and

> Muslims.

>

>

> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/01/6785/

Here, I will tell you the truth, it was Zionists who hacked my Computer, not

Muslims! Read this and lets get it out who started this War, and how it is

just a little over ten thousand elite Rich People, whom united and took

advantage of the War on Terror, and are expanding it where there was no

Terrorists attacking the US, and they are promoting, expanding, and

instigating this War for Profit, at the expense of the US and British and

Israeli Economies!

I rewrote some of this to read better!

"It's Americans OR Democrats" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Boy! Do THEY have their work cut out for them!!

>

> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two mentally disabled women were strapped with

> explosives Friday and sent into busy Baghdad markets, where they were

> blown up by remote control, a top Iraqi government official said.

When we the People are at Liberty to provide their our own Security, and can

get

help from the Government, then our Nation is secure, not until then.

I don't like the religious racist type stereotyping of people on this post

that you call ragheads, because this could be the work of Atheist Communist

Zionists, pretending to be Jews and Christians, because this kidnapping and

blowing up mentally impaired people is exactly why the US Government has

obstructed Justice in my case, and have denied protection to every honest

Citizen of these United States, by helping the Criminals get away, and

perhaps the reason why is that the people who hacked my Computer were

Zionists, and I know that, because they communicated with me on my Computer,

so

who kidnapped these women and killed them and others, Zionists or Muslims?

My Medical Records are in Enemy hands and have been since the 1990s, and in

2003 while hunting Bin Laden and his likes, someone hacked my Computer in

Kansas City, and tried to make me look like a suicide bomber, and I called

the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable for help, and they acted like they

were helping me while setting me up, and blocking us form finding and or

capturing Osama Bin Laden and his likes.

Who were these people that hacked my Computer and tried to make me look like

a suicide bomber? Were they planning on kidnapping me and blowing me up by

remote to expand the War for their Profit? When I was outed as a CID

Informant in the 1980s I was kidnapped by

Foreign exchange students from Africa, armed with Stolen US Weapons, so why

when my life is threaten by an enemy of the People of these United States,

why would they stop the FBI from investigating who hacked my computer and

used the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable, and the VA, to set me up? Why

did they lock me up and force drugs on me for an entire year, drugs that

were already known to cause me harm?

Read this and lets force the Government to come clean on it for the sake of

all of our security!

Try getting your head on the real Important Issues, like National

Security and Personal Security and Liberty, and don't let any issue distrct

you from getting both Liberty ann Truth and Justice for every American.

No doubt we should not believe George Bush's Lies.

But don't ignore the Fact that AGW is a Communist spun

lie, and propaganda used as a Psychological Warfare Tactic so that Iran and

other Communist Countries can promote Nuclear Power, as the solution, while

they make Nukes to destroy us, and this Communist spun lie is coming from

the same Communist Controlled Environmentalists that forced Margaret

Thatcher to come up with the Global Cooling to try to win the

Environmentalists away from the Communists, they just twisted her lie and

are using it against us, because it will help them destroy our economy

retooling everything for equipment that will prevent nothing, and it helps

them destroy our economy by pushing for destroying our Tillable Farmland

with

Biofuels Production that will solve nothing, and they are using the lie so

that they can continue to overthrow our Government by getting

Environmentalists like you, to attack and destroy both our Top Scientists

and our Oil Sources that are needed for National Security.

Why are people using the Internet to set up our Veterans and make them

Homeless? Why are people using the Internet to attack our Businesses and

outsource our Jobs? What about the right and the left together taking away

our freedom to choose what Doctors and what medical Treatment that we want,

instead of forced Medical treatment that since the Iraq War Began, caused

over 6000 Iraq Vets and Tens of Thousands of US Citizens to commit suicide

or murder suicide because

of the Medical Maltreatment that they falsely call seeking and getting help?

These People seem to be a Athiest Communist Zionist, pretending to be Jews

and Christians while persecuting

true Jews and Christians, and wanting to attack the Arabs, the US Oil source

for National Security. Because the only thing that they can come up with

when

someone tells the truth, is just like the Nazis and Soviets, they call them

crazy and try to drug them out of their minds, or try to jail them on

trumped up charges, or try to rob and kill them.

This is how that are abusing US Veterans, with exactly the same problem that

I have been going through ever since I was hit in the head with a rock in

the 1980s. Only in my case I had early Cat Scans that showed a stroke where

I was hit with the Rock, and have EEGs that show abnormally brain waves

coming from that area, but most VA Doctors refuse to diagnose it as Organic

Brain Damage, and instead diagnose it as all Psychological, and then they

even force me to take the same drugs that I had already tried, and when I

tried them they made me more dysfunctional, and the Neurologists say to stop

taking those dangerous drugs, but Psychiatrists keep trying to force them

upon me again and again, destroying my life, because of what they wrote in

my Medical Records.

And US Politicians, George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, the

CIA, the FBI, CNN, and the Enemies of the People of these United States,

conspired together, and used this controversy and my Medical Records, to

obstruct our efforts of finding and getting Osama Bin Laden and his likes!

Which is treason against the People of these United States, and as Commander

in Chief, the President himself, those of the CIA involved, and those of the

FBI involved, as well as the other Politicians involved, should be held

accountable to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/30/brain.injury/index.html

An outed CID Informant, or any other outed Agent, and even those that have

not yet been Publicly outed, has to live on guard at all times, because the

secret files that were recorded only in the White House and in the Pentagon,

for our personal security, have fallen into the wrong hands. So the

Communists use Domestic Criminals via the Internet to set us up much faster

now, than the ways that they did it before. Our lives and are Liberty are at

risk every moment, because some among the Tax and Spend Democrats, and some

among the Borrow until Economic Collapse Republicans, have betrayed us, and

because of their personal dislikes, the Communists use them, and use

personal attacks to set us up, and get rid of us for our common enemies!

Who would know better about this, than an outed CID Informant whom was outed

and kidnapped by Legal Foreign Exchanged Students from Africa, armed with

stolen US Weapons on American soil, in the 1980s?

Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

Here, if you are a real Jew or a real Christian or a real American Athiest

or not, read what the scriptures say about Rulers and

their follower that believe lies, and stop the lies and persicuting of

innocent peole from going any further.

How can we select and elect a Ruler whom does not have wicked servants that

will use the Law to Persecute and destroy the innocent?

Many will disagree on this, that is their right, they have the right to

either choose to do good or to do evil, and it is my right to choose to

endeavor to do good, and stand upon and defend my position until death.

Did you believe the lies of WMD in Iraq, or did you help make them up so

that you could draw the US into an expensive War, to destroy our economy, so

that you could take over our Government and persecute all whom tell the

truth, as if they were crazy?

Dear Hillary and George, and you Religious Rulers, and you followers of the

Tax and Spend Democrats, and followers of the Borrow until Economic Collapse

Republicans, and followers of the Religious Rulers, and follower of the News

Media, and followers of Environmental Groups. Take a look at your Rulers,

what are they, and what are you for following them?

Are they Righteous by being truly acquainted with the God of Abraham and

being faithful to him?

Proverbs 29:12 "If a ruler hearkens to lies, all his servants are wicked."

Your wicked servants are your dogs that do your evil works of setting up and

destroying America, and the lives of Individual Americans, for profit.

Proverbs 29:7 "The righteous considers the cause of the poor, but the wicked

prefers not to acquaint that."

Yes, your supporters are not only diverted from understanding what causes

people to become poor, they have decided to take advantage of the Poor, and

make money while destroying them. They are deliberately causing many to

become poorer, because of your Laws and Regulations, why your Laws and

Regulations? Because they are being applied and interpreted to defend the

Rich from the Poor that they wrong.

Proverbs 30:14 "There becomes a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and

their jaw teeth alike knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the

needy from among men."

Diverted from our Just Causes of War against Terrorism, it is your

supporters whom have launched a War on the Poor for profit.

1Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while

some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves

through with many sorrows."

Yes, they have not entered the Kingdom of God by acquainting the door to the

Kingdom.

John 10:7-19

"Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the

door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but

the sheep did not hear them. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he

shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief cometh

not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they

might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the good

shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. But he that is an

hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf

coming, and leaves the sheep, and flees: and the wolf catches them, and

scatters the sheep. The hireling flees, because he is an hireling, and cares

not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known

of mine. As the Father acquaints me, even so acquaint I the Father: and I

lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of

this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there

shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Therefore does my Father love me,

because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man takes it from

me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have

power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. There

was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings."

Matthew 12:38-45

"Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master,

we would see a sign from you. But he answered and said unto them, An evil

and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and there shall no sign be

given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days

and three nights in the fish's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days

and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh shall rise in

judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented

at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. The

queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and

shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to hear

the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. When the

unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking

rest, and finds none. Then he says, I will return into my house from whence

I came out; and when he is come, he finds it empty, swept, and garnished.

Then goes he, and takes with himself seven other spirits more wicked than

himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man

is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked

generation."

Matthew 7:1-21

"Judge not, so that you become not judged. For with what judgment you judge,

you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to

you again. Also why do you behold the mote that is in your brother's eye,

but considers not the beam that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to

your brother, Let me pull out the mote out of your eye; and, behold, a beam

is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own

eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your

brother's

eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast you your pearls

before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and

rend you. Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock,

and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asks receives; and he

that seeks finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened. Or what man is

there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he

ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to

give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is

in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Therefore all things

whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them: for

this is the law and the prophets. Enter you in at the strait gate: for wide

is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there

be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way,

which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false

prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are

ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes

of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good

fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring

forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every

tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that says unto

me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the

will of my Father which is in heaven."

Here, instead of being a fake Zionist, be a true one, Mount Zion has nothing

to do with taking land for a so called chosen People, the chosen People are

Mount Zion wherever they are in the whole world.

Seeking the Holy Mountain of God, where is she? The Holy Mountain of God is

not sand and stones, she is not the arrogant daughters of Zion, she is made

of the meek and humble built upon the sure and tried stone laid in Zion, for

they are those that believe to become acquainted with him, and his Father

Yahweh, and they are living stones of Holy Mountain Zion, built and fitly

jointed together, as the Holy Temple of Yahweh, and he that destroys the

Holy Temple of Yahweh, Yahweh shall destroy.

Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

Follow me, I am a US Army Veteran!

As an experienced registered informant for the Criminal Investigation

Department, of the United States Army, it is doing my Duty to my God, and to

my Country, as I secretly pretend to be one of them, and stand face to face

with Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies, going along with whatever

interests and activities the Domestic Criminals or Foreign Enemies, have

busied themselves with, as I secretly suck up all the information, and

gather all the evidence that I can, about their interests and activities,

and then I report of their interests and activities, and give the evidence

to the loyal among the US Government.

We are members of the C.A.L.M. Before the Storm, the Civil American

Liberties Militia! We are made up of mostly likeminded US Military Veterans,

that are spread across the entire USA, and some abroad, secretly doing our

Duty to our God, and to our County! We have no membership registry or dues,

we are all Volunteers, and we do not expect any pay, for our Duty that we

daily do, working separately to bring about our joint effort of defending

our Families, and our Country, by exercising the Rights that we serve our

God, and our Country, to defend, against all our common Enemies, Foreign and

Domestic.

In service of God and Country

Joseph R Loegering

All of my records were sent to enemies of the people of these United States,

after I was outed as a CID Informant in the 1980s and was kidnapped by Armed

Terrorists from Africa, that were Armed with Stolen US Weapons, and they

kidnapped me just outside FT Riley Kansas, and these people are now using

those deliberately falsified Medical Records to try to kill me. And they

used Nancy Grace to try to kill me, to try to silence me about some things

that the people running this country don't want the Public to know.

http://blog.qusan.com/archives/2005_12_01_archive.html

"Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoegering@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> CNN is being paid off, to help kill Brittany Spears for entertainment and

> to

> brainwash the public into thinking that forced medical treatment is the

> answer

>

> It is the same group of people controlling CNN now, that set me up and

> tried

> to murder me to keep me quiet!

>

> Like I was, Brittany Spears has been set up by CNN, because she is

> exhibiting all the side effects of Psychotropic Drugs, and the News Media

> and Medical Profession is in control of it, making it look like they are

> going to save her with long term Mental Health Treatment, when it is the

> Drugs causing her bad and erotic behavior!

>

> These liars say that she stops taking the Medication just when it is about

> to work. That is a lie, it does not make you feel better while on the

> drugs, it

> makes you feel worse and unaware that your problems are being caused by

> the drugs, then when you realize the drugs are no good,

> that is when they stop taking the drugs, but the withdrawals cause

> erratic and bad behavior for up to a year after stopping taking the drugs.

>

>

> I am living proof that it Was CNN and the Medical Community that hacked my

> computer while I was hunting Bin Laden and his likes, and they tried to

> set me up to look like a suicide bomber, and then tried to say that I was

> nuts, and they repeatedly had Doctors drug me out of my mind trying to get

> me to kill myself! Thoughts of suicide is what all of those drugs case,

> and you are so out of it, you run right back to the people who gave you

> the drugs and caused the problems, thinking that you are going to get

> help, but they give you no help, they only give you more drugs saying that

> it is for the side effects, adding more side effects to the point you

> don't understand what is going on, and the combined side effects start

> taking place until you either commit suicide or murder suicide.

>

>

>

> See all my psost on the Internet about this, the enimies of the People of

> these United States are using CNN to target and drug Americans out of

> their

> minds, even though other Doctors say that those drugs are the cause of the

> Problem.

>

>

> "kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message

> news:102bac0f-cb0c-44bf-a274-ecbf86012a29@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>> Actually, I am beginning to see a pattern here, somebody mentioned PG.

>> I've decided to do a little testing. I'll get back to you later on it.

>>

>> The is a test of your constitutional system. Do not be alarmed, this

>> is only a test. Had this been an actual constitutional emergency, you

>> would not be seeing this usenet message :

>>

>> http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

>>

>> http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

>>

>> Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that

>> link them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of

>> power. These basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in

>> some regimes than in others, but they all share at least some level of

>> similarity.

>>

>> 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the

>> prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins,

>> the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the

>> regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always

>> obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity

>> were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually

>> coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on

>> xenophobia.

>>

>> 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves

>> viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing

>> the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda,

>> the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by

>> marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was

>> egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

>>

>> 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most

>> significant common thread among these regimes was the use of

>> scapegoating as a means to divert the people's attention from other

>> problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in

>> controlled directions. The methods of choice--relentless propaganda and

>> disinformation--were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite

>> "spontaneous" acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists,

>> socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional

>> national enemies, members of other religions, secularists,

>> homosexuals, and "terrorists." Active opponents of these regimes were

>> inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

>>

>> 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always

>> identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure

>> that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was

>> allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The

>> military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used

>> whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations,

>> and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

>>

>> 5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and

>> the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably

>> viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-

>> abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in

>> Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of

>> the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

>>

>> 6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media

>> were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to

>> stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power

>> to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing

>> and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and

>> implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically

>> compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in

>> keeping the general public unaware of the regimes' excesses.

>>

>> 7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security

>> apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually

>> an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any

>> constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting

>> "national security," and questioning its activities was portrayed as

>> unpatriotic or even treasonous.

>>

>> 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes,

>> the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless

>> by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves

>> to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray

>> themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the

>> ruling elite's behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the

>> religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the

>> illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and

>> opponents of the "godless." A perception was manufactured that

>> opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

>>

>> 9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of

>> ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large

>> corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The

>> ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure

>> military production (in developed states), but also as an additional

>> means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often

>> pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of

>> interests, especially in the repression of "have-not" citizens.

>>

>> 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was

>> seen as the one power center that could challenge the political

>> hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was

>> inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass,

>> viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being

>> poor was considered akin to a vice.

>>

>> 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.

>> Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression

>> associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and

>> academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and

>> the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically

>> unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or

>> expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed.

>> To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national

>> interest or they had no right to exist.

>>

>> 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes

>> maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison

>> populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked

>> power, leading to rampant abuse. "Normal" and political crime were

>> often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used

>> against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of

>> criminals or "traitors" was often promoted among the population as an

>> excuse for more police power.

>>

>> 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and

>> close to the power elite often used their position to enrich

>> themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would

>> receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in

>> turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the

>> power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other

>> sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the

>> national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this

>> corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the

>> general population.

>>

>> 14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or

>> public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with

>> candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power

>> elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining

>> control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising

>> opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a

>> last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

>>

>> Does any of this ring alarm bells? Of course not. After all, this is

>> America, officially a democracy with the rule of law, a constitution,

>> a free press, honest elections, and a well-informed public constantly

>> being put on guard against evils. Historical comparisons like these

>> are just exercises in verbal gymnastics. Maybe, maybe not.

>

> Hey fool, waving the symbols of the land of my Fathers is not being caught

> up in the frenzy of what these Traitors are doing. Your are just trying to

> brainwash people into being anti-American!

>

> Check out my Pro-American, Anti-Treasonous Tax and Spend Democratic Party,

> and Anti-Treasonous Borrow until Economic Collapse Republican Party, and

> Anti-Traitor Campaign.

>

> http://www.josephsbusiness.com/

>

>

>

> "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message

> news:Z4Toj.5144$5K1.5056@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...

>> Maybe these Marine recruiters should take the day off every time code

>> pink

>> veers their skid-row un-bathed stench!

>>

>> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/findingclarity/archives/130800.asp?from=blog_last3

>>

>> Before I report on the latest let me say one thing. Dissension is an

>> American tradition. Even the "symbolic gestures" passed by many local

>> communities are traditions of free speech and discourse that I

>> appreciate,

>> and I defend...in principle. In other words, I vigorously defend the

>> rights of American Citizens to protest, to pass initiatives and to

>> complain.

>>

>> However.

>>

>> Freedom of speech works both ways. I have the freedom of dissent too. I

>> have the freedom to see what they do and hear what they say and to

>> protest

>> them. The fact they are engaged in a free speech activity is not cover

>> and shield against retaliation and counter demonstration.

>>

>> In the case of the Military, Berkeley and Code Pink can harass and

>> protest

>> the Marines within the confines of the law and even alter existing law to

>> harass them a bit more. Whether or not that is a violation of various

>> Federal laws is a matter for lawyers and Judges to determine.

>>

>> But, Berkeley and Code Pink must remember that they too are subject to

>> protests in retaliation, whether in the form of boycotts, public displays

>> of disgust and legal action.

>>

>> One thing I have noticed quite often in these situations is that people

>> tend to think free speech creates a vacuum of protection and sanctity.

>> It

>> doesn't. In fact it is not a protection of legal action at all, which

>> means the vandalism committed by Code Pink is subject to criminal

>> prosecution.

>>

>> Free speech is not a protection against consequence.

>>

>> In summary, if they have a right to do what they do, I have the same

>> right

>> to do what I do, and to join the other bloggers in their efforts to

>> protest them.

>>

>

> For me, I am not a peace activists like Code Pink, I reasonably engage the

> enemies of the People of these United States whenever and where ever I can

> smoke them out, but attacking people who could be brought to our side

> without force, or be taken out another way, is wrong! I will continue to

> help get Bin Laden and his likes, but I am not going to kill innocent

> people

> caught in the crossfire of a Political and Religious motivated War, that

> is

> being instigated by a little over ten thousand Rich Elite, whom make money

> off all sides in the conflicts that they finance and instigate. These Rich

> Elite financing all the different sides, and whom are instigating the

> conflicts, are the true enemies of the People of these United States, and

> are truly enemies of all Humanity.

>

> Here I write some of this clearer

>

>

>

>

> "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e30172b0-8e26-4572-939a-7832b8368a92@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> Blowback From the GOP's Holy War

>> by Juan Cole

>> For much of January, one might have thought that the Republican

>> candidates for president were already competing against a single

>> opponent. Not one called Hillary or Barack, but with a moniker even

>> more chilling in the eyes of hard-line Republicans: Islamic fascism.

>>

>> The American public, worried about mortgages, recession and a

>> seemingly interminable war in Iraq, was unimpressed -- those who fear-

>> mongered the most about Muslim terrorists have faltered at the polls.

>> Even the remaining front-runners, John McCain and Mitt Romney, have

>> said bigoted things about Muslims and their religion. But Islamophobia

>> as a campaign strategy has failed, and it may well come back to haunt

>> the Republicans in the general election.

>>

>> Back when the GOP presidential field was still flush with tough-

>> talking right-wingers, no one was more outrageous in targeting Muslims

>> than Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who suggested that Muslim

>> terrorists inside America were plotting the imminent detonation of an

>> atomic bomb on U.S. soil. How to prevent this Tom Clancy scenario? "If

>> it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this

>> homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy

>> sites in Mecca and Medina," Tancredo declared. "Because that's the

>> only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what

>> they otherwise might do."

>>

>> That sort of wild-eyed bigotry only fuels the cycle of mistrust and

>> vengeance. One can only imagine how much more difficulty Tancredo

>> generated for U.S. diplomats attempting to explain to America's Muslim

>> allies why a presidential candidate was talking about nuking Islam's

>> holiest cities, the larger with a population nearly that of Houston.

>>

>> But the failure of Islamophobia as a campaign strategy is no better

>> illustrated than by the spectacular flame-out of Rudy Giuliani.

>> Throughout his campaign (deep-sixed after his dismal showing in

>> Tuesday's Florida primary), the former New York mayor evoked the Sept.

>> 11 attacks at an absurd rate. Giuliani and his advisors appeared to

>> revel in demonizing Muslims. They also reveled in their own ignorance

>> -- never learning the difference between "Islamic" and "Muslim."

>>

>> "Islamic" has to do with the religion founded by the prophet Mohammed.

>> We speak of Islamic ethics or Islamic art, as things that derive from

>> the religion. "Muslim," on the contrary, describes the believer. It

>> would be perfectly all right to talk about Muslim terrorists, but

>> calling them Islamic terrorists or Islamic fascists implies that the

>> religion of Islam is somehow essentially connected to those extremist

>> movements.

>>

>> Giuliani complained that during their debates, Democratic rivals

>> "never mentioned the word 'Islamic terrorist,' 'Islamic extremist,'

>> 'Islamic fascist,' 'terrorist,' whatever combination of those words

>> you want to use, [the] words never came up." He added, "I can't

>> imagine who you insult if you say 'Islamic terrorist.' You don't

>> insult anyone who is Islamic who isn't a terrorist."

>>

>> But people are not "Islamic," they are Muslim. And one most certainly

>> does insult Muslims by tying their religion to movements such as

>> terrorism or fascism. Muslims perceive a double standard in this

>> regard: Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols would never be called

>> "Christian terrorists" even though they were in close contact with the

>> Christian Identity Movement. No one would speak of Christofascism or

>> Judeofascism as the Republican candidates speak of Islamofascism.

>> Muslims point out that persons of Christian heritage invented fascism,

>> not Muslims, and deny that Muslim movements have any link to the mass

>> politics of the 1930s in Europe.

>>

>> Giuliani's pledge to take the United States on an offensive against

>> Islamic fascism, which he also said would be a long-term battle,

>> failed to excite the imagination of voters. It may well have alarmed

>> them in a way different from what Giuliani intended: If, by Giuliani's

>> logic, the United States is only on the "defensive" now, with wars in

>> Afghanistan and Iraq, what would being on the offensive look like?

>> Would Giuliani have started four wars? Interestingly, Giuliani did

>> especially poorly in Florida among retired and active-duty military

>> personnel.

>>

>> Giuliani was also hurt when the co-chair of his veterans' campaign in

>> New Hampshire, John Deady praised Giuliani for being able to stop "the

>> rise of the Muslims," an effort necessary to continue, he said, until

>> "we defeat them or chase them back to their caves, or, in other words,

>> get rid of them." When asked if he was really condemning all members

>> of the religion, Deady replied, "I don't subscribe to the principle

>> that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They're all Muslims."

>> Deady was forced to resign after a video of his remarks was put on the

>> web by the Guardian. Other Giuliani advisors have had some bigoted

>> things to say about Muslims as well. Rep. Peter King of New York

>> complained that "unfortunately we have too many mosques in this

>> country." Daniel Pipes, a professional Islamophobe advising Giuliani,

>> once said it would be dangerous to let American Muslims vote.

>>

>> Meanwhile, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who has done well among

>> evangelicals but has had difficulty attracting votes from other

>> segments of the Republican Party, had a revealing response to the

>> assassination of Pakistani politician Benazir Bhutto. "I am making the

>> observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our

>> border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of

>> the border," he said. He added, "And in light of what is happening in

>> Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals

>> coming across these borders." In fact, there are almost no Pakistani

>> illegal aliens to speak of in the United States. Only 13 percent of

>> the estimated 12 million persons in the United States illegally are

>> estimated to be Asian, but almost all of them are East Asian.

>> Pakistani and Indian immigrants, moreover, are among the wealthiest

>> immigrants in the country.

>>

>> Current GOP front-runner John McCain has been prone to hyperbole and

>> has let some bigoted statements escape his lips as well. He has said

>> that the threat from Islamic extremism is greater than the one

>> presented by the Soviet Union. Recently, McCain proclaimed, "I'm not

>> interested in trading with al-Qaida. All they want to trade is burqas...

>> " The senator seemed to be relating the Muslim custom of veiling to

>> terrorism. The Detroit Free Press, whose city has one of the largest

>> Muslim populations, reported on Jan. 12 that McCain's remarks were

>> hurtful to American Muslims. "Local Muslims say that criticizing al-

>> Qaida is legitimate, but wonder why he would make a snide remark about

>> a dress? The remark was especially bothersome, some said, considering

>> that McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget McCain, is from one of the

>> biggest Muslim countries, Bangladesh." One would think that raising a

>> daughter from the Muslim world in the United States today would be

>> difficult enough, even without the adoptive father's denigrating the

>> customs of the women from that culture.

>>

>> On another occasion, asked whether a Muslim candidate for president

>> would be acceptable, McCain replied, "I just have to say in all candor

>> that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ...

>> personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in

>> my faith. But that doesn't mean that I'm sure that someone who is

>> Muslim would not make a good president. I don't say that we would rule

>> out under any circumstances someone of a different faith. I just would

>> -- I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to

>> lead."

>>

>> But according to Article IV of the U.S. Constitution, "no religious

>> Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public

>> Trust under the United States." Secularists and Jews joined American

>> Muslims in condemning McCain's assertion that the United States was

>> founded on Christian principles, and that Christian faith could be a

>> key determinate for taking the Oval Office.

>>

>> McCain's misconceptions about Muslims and perceived hostility toward

>> them predates his 2008 presidential campaign. In 2005, he said on "The

>> Charlie Rose Show" that a Muslim had killed the Indian political and

>> spiritual figure Mahatma Gandhi. In fact, the assassin belonged to a

>> radical Hindu organization, the RSS.

>>

>> Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has, like his peers, regularly

>> invoked the dangers of "Islamic fascism." He allegedly told one Muslim-

>> American he would not put a Muslim in his Cabinet, since there were

>> not enough Muslim-Americans to justify it. (Romney later denied the

>> charge).

>>

>> Why might all this rhetoric targeting Muslims be unwise? For one

>> thing, allowing the Christian conservative base to set an agenda that

>> demonizes Muslims contains the danger of turning off more moderate

>> segments of the GOP and American voters at large. McCain's comment on

>> the importance of a president's being Christian appeared to have

>> backfired on him in precisely that way.

>>

>> Moreover, Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans are swing voters in key

>> states such as Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Florida.

>> While they tended to vote for George W. Bush in 2000, by 2004 these

>> groups overwhelmingly supported John Kerry, and the heavy-handed and

>> bigoted rhetoric of the Republican candidates may drive them away from

>> the GOP altogether.

>>

>> The candidates who played to fears of "Islamic fascism" the most --

>> Tancredo, Huckabee and Giuliani -- failed to light any fire under

>> partisans in the party, and they have now faded from the scene. But

>> the campaign has already left behind a bitter legacy of sloganeering

>> against a single religious and ethnic community. The Republicans have

>> repeatedly asserted that Islam has been perverted by radicals; their

>> rhetoric effectively reduced American Muslims to second-class citizens

>> and branded them as suspicious. Perhaps most worrisome of all: If any

>> of the remaining candidates does win the presidency, he is going to

>> have to cultivate close relations with Middle Eastern regimes to even

>> begin resolving the mess in that region. And that president will have

>> to do so saddled from the start with a legacy of denigrating Islam and

>> Muslims.

>>

>>

>> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/01/6785/

>

> Here, I will tell you the truth, it was Zionists who hacked my Computer,

> not

> Muslims! Read this and lets get it out who started this War, and how it is

> just a little over ten thousand elite Rich People, whom united and took

> advantage of the War on Terror, and are expanding it where there was no

> Terrorists attacking the US, and they are promoting, expanding, and

> instigating this War for Profit, at the expense of the US and British and

> Israeli Economies!

>

>

>

> I rewrote some of this to read better!

>

>

>

> "It's Americans OR Democrats" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:59415189-9391-443d-b23f-23ddb28c84e8@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>> Boy! Do THEY have their work cut out for them!!

>>

>> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two mentally disabled women were strapped with

>> explosives Friday and sent into busy Baghdad markets, where they were

>> blown up by remote control, a top Iraqi government official said.

>

> When we the People are at Liberty to provide their our own Security, and

> can

> get

> help from the Government, then our Nation is secure, not until then.

> I don't like the religious racist type stereotyping of people on this post

> that you call ragheads, because this could be the work of Atheist

> Communist

> Zionists, pretending to be Jews and Christians, because this kidnapping

> and

> blowing up mentally impaired people is exactly why the US Government has

> obstructed Justice in my case, and have denied protection to every honest

> Citizen of these United States, by helping the Criminals get away, and

> perhaps the reason why is that the people who hacked my Computer were

> Zionists, and I know that, because they communicated with me on my

> Computer,

> so

> who kidnapped these women and killed them and others, Zionists or Muslims?

> My Medical Records are in Enemy hands and have been since the 1990s, and

> in

> 2003 while hunting Bin Laden and his likes, someone hacked my Computer in

> Kansas City, and tried to make me look like a suicide bomber, and I called

> the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable for help, and they acted like they

> were helping me while setting me up, and blocking us form finding and or

> capturing Osama Bin Laden and his likes.

>

>

>

> Who were these people that hacked my Computer and tried to make me look

> like

> a suicide bomber? Were they planning on kidnapping me and blowing me up by

> remote to expand the War for their Profit? When I was outed as a CID

> Informant in the 1980s I was kidnapped by

> Foreign exchange students from Africa, armed with Stolen US Weapons, so

> why

> when my life is threaten by an enemy of the People of these United States,

> why would they stop the FBI from investigating who hacked my computer and

> used the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable, and the VA, to set me up? Why

> did they lock me up and force drugs on me for an entire year, drugs that

> were already known to cause me harm?

>

> Read this and lets force the Government to come clean on it for the sake

> of

> all of our security!

>

>

>

> Try getting your head on the real Important Issues, like National

> Security and Personal Security and Liberty, and don't let any issue

> distrct

> you from getting both Liberty ann Truth and Justice for every American.

>

> No doubt we should not believe George Bush's Lies.

>

> But don't ignore the Fact that AGW is a Communist spun

> lie, and propaganda used as a Psychological Warfare Tactic so that Iran

> and

> other Communist Countries can promote Nuclear Power, as the solution,

> while

> they make Nukes to destroy us, and this Communist spun lie is coming from

> the same Communist Controlled Environmentalists that forced Margaret

> Thatcher to come up with the Global Cooling to try to win the

> Environmentalists away from the Communists, they just twisted her lie and

> are using it against us, because it will help them destroy our economy

> retooling everything for equipment that will prevent nothing, and it helps

> them destroy our economy by pushing for destroying our Tillable Farmland

> with

> Biofuels Production that will solve nothing, and they are using the lie so

> that they can continue to overthrow our Government by getting

> Environmentalists like you, to attack and destroy both our Top Scientists

> and our Oil Sources that are needed for National Security.

>

> Why are people using the Internet to set up our Veterans and make them

> Homeless? Why are people using the Internet to attack our Businesses and

> outsource our Jobs? What about the right and the left together taking away

> our freedom to choose what Doctors and what medical Treatment that we

> want,

> instead of forced Medical treatment that since the Iraq War Began, caused

> over 6000 Iraq Vets and Tens of Thousands of US Citizens to commit suicide

> or murder suicide because

> of the Medical Maltreatment that they falsely call seeking and getting

> help?

> These People seem to be a Athiest Communist Zionist, pretending to be Jews

> and Christians while persecuting

> true Jews and Christians, and wanting to attack the Arabs, the US Oil

> source

> for National Security. Because the only thing that they can come up with

> when

> someone tells the truth, is just like the Nazis and Soviets, they call

> them

> crazy and try to drug them out of their minds, or try to jail them on

> trumped up charges, or try to rob and kill them.

>

>

> This is how that are abusing US Veterans, with exactly the same problem

> that

> I have been going through ever since I was hit in the head with a rock in

> the 1980s. Only in my case I had early Cat Scans that showed a stroke

> where

> I was hit with the Rock, and have EEGs that show abnormally brain waves

> coming from that area, but most VA Doctors refuse to diagnose it as

> Organic

> Brain Damage, and instead diagnose it as all Psychological, and then they

> even force me to take the same drugs that I had already tried, and when I

> tried them they made me more dysfunctional, and the Neurologists say to

> stop

> taking those dangerous drugs, but Psychiatrists keep trying to force them

> upon me again and again, destroying my life, because of what they wrote in

> my Medical Records.

>

>

>

> And US Politicians, George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, the

> CIA, the FBI, CNN, and the Enemies of the People of these United States,

> conspired together, and used this controversy and my Medical Records, to

> obstruct our efforts of finding and getting Osama Bin Laden and his likes!

> Which is treason against the People of these United States, and as

> Commander

> in Chief, the President himself, those of the CIA involved, and those of

> the

> FBI involved, as well as the other Politicians involved, should be held

> accountable to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

>

>

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/30/brain.injury/index.html

>

>

> An outed CID Informant, or any other outed Agent, and even those that have

> not yet been Publicly outed, has to live on guard at all times, because

> the

> secret files that were recorded only in the White House and in the

> Pentagon,

> for our personal security, have fallen into the wrong hands. So the

> Communists use Domestic Criminals via the Internet to set us up much

> faster

> now, than the ways that they did it before. Our lives and are Liberty are

> at

> risk every moment, because some among the Tax and Spend Democrats, and

> some

> among the Borrow until Economic Collapse Republicans, have betrayed us,

> and

> because of their personal dislikes, the Communists use them, and use

> personal attacks to set us up, and get rid of us for our common enemies!

>

> Who would know better about this, than an outed CID Informant whom was

> outed

> and kidnapped by Legal Foreign Exchanged Students from Africa, armed with

> stolen US Weapons on American soil, in the 1980s?

> Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

>

>

> Here, if you are a real Jew or a real Christian or a real American Athiest

> or not, read what the scriptures say about Rulers and

> their follower that believe lies, and stop the lies and persicuting of

> innocent peole from going any further.

>

> How can we select and elect a Ruler whom does not have wicked servants

> that

> will use the Law to Persecute and destroy the innocent?

>

> Many will disagree on this, that is their right, they have the right to

> either choose to do good or to do evil, and it is my right to choose to

> endeavor to do good, and stand upon and defend my position until death.

>

> Did you believe the lies of WMD in Iraq, or did you help make them up so

> that you could draw the US into an expensive War, to destroy our economy,

> so

> that you could take over our Government and persecute all whom tell the

> truth, as if they were crazy?

>

> Dear Hillary and George, and you Religious Rulers, and you followers of

> the

> Tax and Spend Democrats, and followers of the Borrow until Economic

> Collapse

> Republicans, and followers of the Religious Rulers, and follower of the

> News

> Media, and followers of Environmental Groups. Take a look at your Rulers,

> what are they, and what are you for following them?

>

> Are they Righteous by being truly acquainted with the God of Abraham and

> being faithful to him?

>

> Proverbs 29:12 "If a ruler hearkens to lies, all his servants are wicked."

>

> Your wicked servants are your dogs that do your evil works of setting up

> and

> destroying America, and the lives of Individual Americans, for profit.

>

>

>

> Proverbs 29:7 "The righteous considers the cause of the poor, but the

> wicked

> prefers not to acquaint that."

>

> Yes, your supporters are not only diverted from understanding what causes

> people to become poor, they have decided to take advantage of the Poor,

> and

> make money while destroying them. They are deliberately causing many to

> become poorer, because of your Laws and Regulations, why your Laws and

> Regulations? Because they are being applied and interpreted to defend the

> Rich from the Poor that they wrong.

>

> Proverbs 30:14 "There becomes a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and

> their jaw teeth alike knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and

> the

> needy from among men."

>

> Diverted from our Just Causes of War against Terrorism, it is your

> supporters whom have launched a War on the Poor for profit.

>

>

>

>

>

> 1Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while

> some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves

> through with many sorrows."

>

> Yes, they have not entered the Kingdom of God by acquainting the door to

> the

> Kingdom.

>

> John 10:7-19

>

> "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the

> door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers:

> but

> the sheep did not hear them. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he

> shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief

> cometh

> not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they

> might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the

> good

> shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. But he that is

> an

> hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf

> coming, and leaves the sheep, and flees: and the wolf catches them, and

> scatters the sheep. The hireling flees, because he is an hireling, and

> cares

> not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known

> of mine. As the Father acquaints me, even so acquaint I the Father: and I

> lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of

> this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there

> shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Therefore does my Father love me,

> because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man takes it

> from

> me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have

> power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

> There

> was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings."

>

>

>

> Matthew 12:38-45

>

> "Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying,

> Master,

> we would see a sign from you. But he answered and said unto them, An evil

> and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and there shall no sign be

> given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three

> days

> and three nights in the fish's belly; so shall the Son of man be three

> days

> and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh shall rise

> in

> judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented

> at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. The

> queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and

> shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to

> hear

> the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. When

> the

> unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking

> rest, and finds none. Then he says, I will return into my house from

> whence

> I came out; and when he is come, he finds it empty, swept, and garnished.

> Then goes he, and takes with himself seven other spirits more wicked than

> himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man

> is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked

> generation."

>

> Matthew 7:1-21

>

> "Judge not, so that you become not judged. For with what judgment you

> judge,

> you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured

> to

> you again. Also why do you behold the mote that is in your brother's eye,

> but considers not the beam that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to

> your brother, Let me pull out the mote out of your eye; and, behold, a

> beam

> is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own

> eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your

> brother's

> eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast you your

> pearls

> before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and

> rend you. Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock,

> and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asks receives; and he

> that seeks finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened. Or what man

> is

> there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if

> he

> ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how

> to

> give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which

> is

> in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Therefore all things

> whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them:

> for

> this is the law and the prophets. Enter you in at the strait gate: for

> wide

> is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many

> there

> be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way,

> which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false

> prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are

> ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes

> of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good

> fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot

> bring

> forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every

> tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the

> fire.

> Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that says unto

> me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does

> the

> will of my Father which is in heaven."

>

>

>

>

> Here, instead of being a fake Zionist, be a true one, Mount Zion has

> nothing

> to do with taking land for a so called chosen People, the chosen People

> are

> Mount Zion wherever they are in the whole world.

>

> Seeking the Holy Mountain of God, where is she? The Holy Mountain of God

> is

> not sand and stones, she is not the arrogant daughters of Zion, she is

> made

> of the meek and humble built upon the sure and tried stone laid in Zion,

> for

> they are those that believe to become acquainted with him, and his Father

> Yahweh, and they are living stones of Holy Mountain Zion, built and fitly

> jointed together, as the Holy Temple of Yahweh, and he that destroys the

> Holy Temple of Yahweh, Yahweh shall destroy.

>

>

> Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

>

> Follow me, I am a US Army Veteran!

>

> As an experienced registered informant for the Criminal Investigation

> Department, of the United States Army, it is doing my Duty to my God, and

> to

> my Country, as I secretly pretend to be one of them, and stand face to

> face

> with Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies, going along with whatever

> interests and activities the Domestic Criminals or Foreign Enemies, have

> busied themselves with, as I secretly suck up all the information, and

> gather all the evidence that I can, about their interests and activities,

> and then I report of their interests and activities, and give the evidence

> to the loyal among the US Government.

>

> We are members of the C.A.L.M. Before the Storm, the Civil American

> Liberties Militia! We are made up of mostly likeminded US Military

> Veterans,

> that are spread across the entire USA, and some abroad, secretly doing our

> Duty to our God, and to our County! We have no membership registry or

> dues,

> we are all Volunteers, and we do not expect any pay, for our Duty that we

> daily do, working separately to bring about our joint effort of defending

> our Families, and our Country, by exercising the Rights that we serve our

> God, and our Country, to defend, against all our common Enemies, Foreign

> and

> Domestic.

>

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph R Loegering

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"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message

news:apGdnWHQzIZMDTnanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...

> you're just fucking with us right? nobody could be this fucking crazy.

I wish I were making it up, but the whole plot sounds so crazy to people, no

one will believe it, and that is why they are getting away with doing it

right before the Publics eyes! That is why no one would actuallt help me,

when they hacked my computer in 2003 while we were hinting Bin Laden, this

crap is all controlled by these big computers in these Corporations!

In service of God and Country

Joseph

"abelincoln" <bushsucks@whitehouse.com> wrote in message

news:apGdnWHQzIZMDTnanZ2dnUVZ_obinZ2d@rcn.net...

> you're just fucking with us right? nobody could be this fucking crazy.

Take a look on the Internet about Nancy Grace and her accusations against

me. Where did CNN get a Copy of my Medical Records since they were making

the accusations of my having a History of Mental Illness before they set me

up and nearly killed me? Where did they get Copies of my Military and

Criminal Records? And why is CNN letting these records be used by both

Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies whom want to set up and kill an outed

CID Informant?

CNN and the News Media sets up anyone they want to by first calling the

mentally crazy, then no one in the public will help that person as their

operatives set their target up over and over until they are completely

destroyed.

Any Lawyer like Nancy Grace who had a 100% conviction rate as a Prosecutor,

has cast off Justice, because of their ability to manufacture convincing

enough lies to prosecute and get innocent people convicted. They could not

get me for violating any law, so they set me up as being crazy because they

even have the Public Brainwashed to help them do that!

In service of God and Country

Joseph

"Christopher Helms" <Chrishelms132@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:0f1dd8dc-5c9e-4f3e-ae2e-a214aa8d42f8@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

On Feb 2, 9:48 am, abelincoln <bushsu...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>> you're just fucking with us right? nobody could be this fucking crazy.

>Over the last few days, Mr. Loegering has jumped to the top of my

>"MI-5 Prosecution" suspects list.

Oh, you means the MI-5 that would not help answer a simple question like,

how many old hardliner communists went from the fallen Soviet Union to the

State of Israel, and how many old hardliner Communists are using the State

of Israel to overthrow the USA from within?

Turns out those same old hardliners are running MI-5, MI-6, and the BBC,

along with most US Media.

So now you know how that when I was outed, all my History, my Military, my

Criminal, my Medical, and even my Credit and Bank records, all was sent to

Domestic Criminals and Foreign enemies of the people of these United States.

Showing the so called Cray Astronaut and Oil Companies making huge profits,

and promoting the lies of AGW is part of a Communist Plot so that they can

brainwash the Public to help them set our Top Scientists as being Crazy, and

destroy our Oil Industry that is needed for National Security. This is what

those old hardliner Communists from the fallen Soviet Union are doing here

in the USA and Britain and Israel, they want to brainwash the public into

attacking the Arabs too, to get rid of the US Oil sources that they need for

national Security.

Take a look on the Internet about Nancy Grace and her accusations against

me. Where did CNN get a Copy of my Medical Records since they were making

the accusations of my having a History of Mental Illness before they set me

up and nearly killed me? Where did they get Copies of my Military and

Criminal Records? And why is CNN letting these records be used by both

Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies whom want to set up and kill an outed

CID Informant?

CNN and the News Media sets up anyone they want to by first calling the

mentally crazy, then no one in the public will help that person as their

operatives set their target up over and over until they are completely

destroyed.

I wish I were making it up, but the whole plot sounds so crazy to people, no

one will believe it, and that is why they are getting away with doing it

right before the Publics eyes! That is why no one would actuallt help me,

when they hacked my computer in 2003 while we were hinting Bin Laden, this

crap is all controlled by these big computers in these Corporations!

Any Lawyer like Nancy Grace who had a 100% conviction rate as a Prosecutor,

has cast off Justice, because of their ability to manufacture convincing

enough lies to prosecute and get innocent people convicted. They could not

get me for violating any law, so they set me up as being crazy because they

even have the Public Brainwashed to help them do that!

All of my records were sent to enemies of the people of these United States,

after I was outed as a CID Informant in the 1980s and was kidnapped by Armed

Terrorists from Africa, that were Armed with Stolen US Weapons, and they

kidnapped me just outside FT Riley Kansas, and these people are now using

those deliberately falsified Medical Records to try to kill me. And they

used Nancy Grace to try to kill me, to try to silence me about some things

that the people running this country don't want the Public to know.

http://blog.qusan.com/archives/2005_12_01_archive.html

"Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoegering@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> CNN is being paid off, to help kill Brittany Spears for entertainment and

> to

> brainwash the public into thinking that forced medical treatment is the

> answer

>

> It is the same group of people controlling CNN now, that set me up and

> tried

> to murder me to keep me quiet!

>

> Like I was, Brittany Spears has been set up by CNN, because she is

> exhibiting all the side effects of Psychotropic Drugs, and the News Media

> and Medical Profession is in control of it, making it look like they are

> going to save her with long term Mental Health Treatment, when it is the

> Drugs causing her bad and erotic behavior!

>

> These liars say that she stops taking the Medication just when it is about

> to work. That is a lie, it does not make you feel better while on the

> drugs, it

> makes you feel worse and unaware that your problems are being caused by

> the drugs, then when you realize the drugs are no good,

> that is when they stop taking the drugs, but the withdrawals cause

> erratic and bad behavior for up to a year after stopping taking the drugs.

>

>

> I am living proof that it Was CNN and the Medical Community that hacked my

> computer while I was hunting Bin Laden and his likes, and they tried to

> set me up to look like a suicide bomber, and then tried to say that I was

> nuts, and they repeatedly had Doctors drug me out of my mind trying to get

> me to kill myself! Thoughts of suicide is what all of those drugs case,

> and you are so out of it, you run right back to the people who gave you

> the drugs and caused the problems, thinking that you are going to get

> help, but they give you no help, they only give you more drugs saying that

> it is for the side effects, adding more side effects to the point you

> don't understand what is going on, and the combined side effects start

> taking place until you either commit suicide or murder suicide.

>

>

>

> See all my psost on the Internet about this, the enimies of the People of

> these United States are using CNN to target and drug Americans out of

> their

> minds, even though other Doctors say that those drugs are the cause of the

> Problem.

>

>

> "kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message

> news:102bac0f-cb0c-44bf-a274-ecbf86012a29@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>> Actually, I am beginning to see a pattern here, somebody mentioned PG.

>> I've decided to do a little testing. I'll get back to you later on it.

>>

>> The is a test of your constitutional system. Do not be alarmed, this

>> is only a test. Had this been an actual constitutional emergency, you

>> would not be seeing this usenet message :

>>

>> http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

>>

>> http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

>>

>> Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that

>> link them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of

>> power. These basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in

>> some regimes than in others, but they all share at least some level of

>> similarity.

>>

>> 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the

>> prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins,

>> the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the

>> regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always

>> obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity

>> were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually

>> coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on

>> xenophobia.

>>

>> 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves

>> viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing

>> the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda,

>> the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by

>> marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was

>> egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

>>

>> 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most

>> significant common thread among these regimes was the use of

>> scapegoating as a means to divert the people's attention from other

>> problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in

>> controlled directions. The methods of choice--relentless propaganda and

>> disinformation--were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite

>> "spontaneous" acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists,

>> socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional

>> national enemies, members of other religions, secularists,

>> homosexuals, and "terrorists." Active opponents of these regimes were

>> inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

>>

>> 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always

>> identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure

>> that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was

>> allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The

>> military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used

>> whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations,

>> and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

>>

>> 5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and

>> the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably

>> viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-

>> abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in

>> Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of

>> the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

>>

>> 6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media

>> were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to

>> stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power

>> to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing

>> and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and

>> implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically

>> compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in

>> keeping the general public unaware of the regimes' excesses.

>>

>> 7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security

>> apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually

>> an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any

>> constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting

>> "national security," and questioning its activities was portrayed as

>> unpatriotic or even treasonous.

>>

>> 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes,

>> the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless

>> by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves

>> to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray

>> themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the

>> ruling elite's behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the

>> religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the

>> illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and

>> opponents of the "godless." A perception was manufactured that

>> opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

>>

>> 9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of

>> ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large

>> corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The

>> ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure

>> military production (in developed states), but also as an additional

>> means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often

>> pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of

>> interests, especially in the repression of "have-not" citizens.

>>

>> 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was

>> seen as the one power center that could challenge the political

>> hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was

>> inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass,

>> viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being

>> poor was considered akin to a vice.

>>

>> 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.

>> Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression

>> associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and

>> academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and

>> the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically

>> unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or

>> expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed.

>> To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national

>> interest or they had no right to exist.

>>

>> 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes

>> maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison

>> populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked

>> power, leading to rampant abuse. "Normal" and political crime were

>> often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used

>> against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of

>> criminals or "traitors" was often promoted among the population as an

>> excuse for more police power.

>>

>> 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and

>> close to the power elite often used their position to enrich

>> themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would

>> receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in

>> turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the

>> power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other

>> sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the

>> national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this

>> corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the

>> general population.

>>

>> 14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or

>> public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with

>> candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power

>> elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining

>> control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising

>> opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a

>> last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

>>

>> Does any of this ring alarm bells? Of course not. After all, this is

>> America, officially a democracy with the rule of law, a constitution,

>> a free press, honest elections, and a well-informed public constantly

>> being put on guard against evils. Historical comparisons like these

>> are just exercises in verbal gymnastics. Maybe, maybe not.

>

> Hey fool, waving the symbols of the land of my Fathers is not being caught

> up in the frenzy of what these Traitors are doing. Your are just trying to

> brainwash people into being anti-American!

>

> Check out my Pro-American, Anti-Treasonous Tax and Spend Democratic Party,

> and Anti-Treasonous Borrow until Economic Collapse Republican Party, and

> Anti-Traitor Campaign.

>

> http://www.josephsbusiness.com/

>

>

>

> "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message

> news:Z4Toj.5144$5K1.5056@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...

>> Maybe these Marine recruiters should take the day off every time code

>> pink

>> veers their skid-row un-bathed stench!

>>

>> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/findingclarity/archives/130800.asp?from=blog_last3

>>

>> Before I report on the latest let me say one thing. Dissension is an

>> American tradition. Even the "symbolic gestures" passed by many local

>> communities are traditions of free speech and discourse that I

>> appreciate,

>> and I defend...in principle. In other words, I vigorously defend the

>> rights of American Citizens to protest, to pass initiatives and to

>> complain.

>>

>> However.

>>

>> Freedom of speech works both ways. I have the freedom of dissent too. I

>> have the freedom to see what they do and hear what they say and to

>> protest

>> them. The fact they are engaged in a free speech activity is not cover

>> and shield against retaliation and counter demonstration.

>>

>> In the case of the Military, Berkeley and Code Pink can harass and

>> protest

>> the Marines within the confines of the law and even alter existing law to

>> harass them a bit more. Whether or not that is a violation of various

>> Federal laws is a matter for lawyers and Judges to determine.

>>

>> But, Berkeley and Code Pink must remember that they too are subject to

>> protests in retaliation, whether in the form of boycotts, public displays

>> of disgust and legal action.

>>

>> One thing I have noticed quite often in these situations is that people

>> tend to think free speech creates a vacuum of protection and sanctity.

>> It

>> doesn't. In fact it is not a protection of legal action at all, which

>> means the vandalism committed by Code Pink is subject to criminal

>> prosecution.

>>

>> Free speech is not a protection against consequence.

>>

>> In summary, if they have a right to do what they do, I have the same

>> right

>> to do what I do, and to join the other bloggers in their efforts to

>> protest them.

>>

>

> For me, I am not a peace activists like Code Pink, I reasonably engage the

> enemies of the People of these United States whenever and where ever I can

> smoke them out, but attacking people who could be brought to our side

> without force, or be taken out another way, is wrong! I will continue to

> help get Bin Laden and his likes, but I am not going to kill innocent

> people

> caught in the crossfire of a Political and Religious motivated War, that

> is

> being instigated by a little over ten thousand Rich Elite, whom make money

> off all sides in the conflicts that they finance and instigate. These Rich

> Elite financing all the different sides, and whom are instigating the

> conflicts, are the true enemies of the People of these United States, and

> are truly enemies of all Humanity.

>

> Here I write some of this clearer

>

>

>

>

> "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e30172b0-8e26-4572-939a-7832b8368a92@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> Blowback From the GOP's Holy War

>> by Juan Cole

>> For much of January, one might have thought that the Republican

>> candidates for president were already competing against a single

>> opponent. Not one called Hillary or Barack, but with a moniker even

>> more chilling in the eyes of hard-line Republicans: Islamic fascism.

>>

>> The American public, worried about mortgages, recession and a

>> seemingly interminable war in Iraq, was unimpressed -- those who fear-

>> mongered the most about Muslim terrorists have faltered at the polls.

>> Even the remaining front-runners, John McCain and Mitt Romney, have

>> said bigoted things about Muslims and their religion. But Islamophobia

>> as a campaign strategy has failed, and it may well come back to haunt

>> the Republicans in the general election.

>>

>> Back when the GOP presidential field was still flush with tough-

>> talking right-wingers, no one was more outrageous in targeting Muslims

>> than Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who suggested that Muslim

>> terrorists inside America were plotting the imminent detonation of an

>> atomic bomb on U.S. soil. How to prevent this Tom Clancy scenario? "If

>> it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this

>> homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy

>> sites in Mecca and Medina," Tancredo declared. "Because that's the

>> only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what

>> they otherwise might do."

>>

>> That sort of wild-eyed bigotry only fuels the cycle of mistrust and

>> vengeance. One can only imagine how much more difficulty Tancredo

>> generated for U.S. diplomats attempting to explain to America's Muslim

>> allies why a presidential candidate was talking about nuking Islam's

>> holiest cities, the larger with a population nearly that of Houston.

>>

>> But the failure of Islamophobia as a campaign strategy is no better

>> illustrated than by the spectacular flame-out of Rudy Giuliani.

>> Throughout his campaign (deep-sixed after his dismal showing in

>> Tuesday's Florida primary), the former New York mayor evoked the Sept.

>> 11 attacks at an absurd rate. Giuliani and his advisors appeared to

>> revel in demonizing Muslims. They also reveled in their own ignorance

>> -- never learning the difference between "Islamic" and "Muslim."

>>

>> "Islamic" has to do with the religion founded by the prophet Mohammed.

>> We speak of Islamic ethics or Islamic art, as things that derive from

>> the religion. "Muslim," on the contrary, describes the believer. It

>> would be perfectly all right to talk about Muslim terrorists, but

>> calling them Islamic terrorists or Islamic fascists implies that the

>> religion of Islam is somehow essentially connected to those extremist

>> movements.

>>

>> Giuliani complained that during their debates, Democratic rivals

>> "never mentioned the word 'Islamic terrorist,' 'Islamic extremist,'

>> 'Islamic fascist,' 'terrorist,' whatever combination of those words

>> you want to use, [the] words never came up." He added, "I can't

>> imagine who you insult if you say 'Islamic terrorist.' You don't

>> insult anyone who is Islamic who isn't a terrorist."

>>

>> But people are not "Islamic," they are Muslim. And one most certainly

>> does insult Muslims by tying their religion to movements such as

>> terrorism or fascism. Muslims perceive a double standard in this

>> regard: Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols would never be called

>> "Christian terrorists" even though they were in close contact with the

>> Christian Identity Movement. No one would speak of Christofascism or

>> Judeofascism as the Republican candidates speak of Islamofascism.

>> Muslims point out that persons of Christian heritage invented fascism,

>> not Muslims, and deny that Muslim movements have any link to the mass

>> politics of the 1930s in Europe.

>>

>> Giuliani's pledge to take the United States on an offensive against

>> Islamic fascism, which he also said would be a long-term battle,

>> failed to excite the imagination of voters. It may well have alarmed

>> them in a way different from what Giuliani intended: If, by Giuliani's

>> logic, the United States is only on the "defensive" now, with wars in

>> Afghanistan and Iraq, what would being on the offensive look like?

>> Would Giuliani have started four wars? Interestingly, Giuliani did

>> especially poorly in Florida among retired and active-duty military

>> personnel.

>>

>> Giuliani was also hurt when the co-chair of his veterans' campaign in

>> New Hampshire, John Deady praised Giuliani for being able to stop "the

>> rise of the Muslims," an effort necessary to continue, he said, until

>> "we defeat them or chase them back to their caves, or, in other words,

>> get rid of them." When asked if he was really condemning all members

>> of the religion, Deady replied, "I don't subscribe to the principle

>> that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They're all Muslims."

>> Deady was forced to resign after a video of his remarks was put on the

>> web by the Guardian. Other Giuliani advisors have had some bigoted

>> things to say about Muslims as well. Rep. Peter King of New York

>> complained that "unfortunately we have too many mosques in this

>> country." Daniel Pipes, a professional Islamophobe advising Giuliani,

>> once said it would be dangerous to let American Muslims vote.

>>

>> Meanwhile, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who has done well among

>> evangelicals but has had difficulty attracting votes from other

>> segments of the Republican Party, had a revealing response to the

>> assassination of Pakistani politician Benazir Bhutto. "I am making the

>> observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our

>> border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of

>> the border," he said. He added, "And in light of what is happening in

>> Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals

>> coming across these borders." In fact, there are almost no Pakistani

>> illegal aliens to speak of in the United States. Only 13 percent of

>> the estimated 12 million persons in the United States illegally are

>> estimated to be Asian, but almost all of them are East Asian.

>> Pakistani and Indian immigrants, moreover, are among the wealthiest

>> immigrants in the country.

>>

>> Current GOP front-runner John McCain has been prone to hyperbole and

>> has let some bigoted statements escape his lips as well. He has said

>> that the threat from Islamic extremism is greater than the one

>> presented by the Soviet Union. Recently, McCain proclaimed, "I'm not

>> interested in trading with al-Qaida. All they want to trade is burqas...

>> " The senator seemed to be relating the Muslim custom of veiling to

>> terrorism. The Detroit Free Press, whose city has one of the largest

>> Muslim populations, reported on Jan. 12 that McCain's remarks were

>> hurtful to American Muslims. "Local Muslims say that criticizing al-

>> Qaida is legitimate, but wonder why he would make a snide remark about

>> a dress? The remark was especially bothersome, some said, considering

>> that McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget McCain, is from one of the

>> biggest Muslim countries, Bangladesh." One would think that raising a

>> daughter from the Muslim world in the United States today would be

>> difficult enough, even without the adoptive father's denigrating the

>> customs of the women from that culture.

>>

>> On another occasion, asked whether a Muslim candidate for president

>> would be acceptable, McCain replied, "I just have to say in all candor

>> that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ...

>> personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in

>> my faith. But that doesn't mean that I'm sure that someone who is

>> Muslim would not make a good president. I don't say that we would rule

>> out under any circumstances someone of a different faith. I just would

>> -- I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to

>> lead."

>>

>> But according to Article IV of the U.S. Constitution, "no religious

>> Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public

>> Trust under the United States." Secularists and Jews joined American

>> Muslims in condemning McCain's assertion that the United States was

>> founded on Christian principles, and that Christian faith could be a

>> key determinate for taking the Oval Office.

>>

>> McCain's misconceptions about Muslims and perceived hostility toward

>> them predates his 2008 presidential campaign. In 2005, he said on "The

>> Charlie Rose Show" that a Muslim had killed the Indian political and

>> spiritual figure Mahatma Gandhi. In fact, the assassin belonged to a

>> radical Hindu organization, the RSS.

>>

>> Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has, like his peers, regularly

>> invoked the dangers of "Islamic fascism." He allegedly told one Muslim-

>> American he would not put a Muslim in his Cabinet, since there were

>> not enough Muslim-Americans to justify it. (Romney later denied the

>> charge).

>>

>> Why might all this rhetoric targeting Muslims be unwise? For one

>> thing, allowing the Christian conservative base to set an agenda that

>> demonizes Muslims contains the danger of turning off more moderate

>> segments of the GOP and American voters at large. McCain's comment on

>> the importance of a president's being Christian appeared to have

>> backfired on him in precisely that way.

>>

>> Moreover, Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans are swing voters in key

>> states such as Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Florida.

>> While they tended to vote for George W. Bush in 2000, by 2004 these

>> groups overwhelmingly supported John Kerry, and the heavy-handed and

>> bigoted rhetoric of the Republican candidates may drive them away from

>> the GOP altogether.

>>

>> The candidates who played to fears of "Islamic fascism" the most --

>> Tancredo, Huckabee and Giuliani -- failed to light any fire under

>> partisans in the party, and they have now faded from the scene. But

>> the campaign has already left behind a bitter legacy of sloganeering

>> against a single religious and ethnic community. The Republicans have

>> repeatedly asserted that Islam has been perverted by radicals; their

>> rhetoric effectively reduced American Muslims to second-class citizens

>> and branded them as suspicious. Perhaps most worrisome of all: If any

>> of the remaining candidates does win the presidency, he is going to

>> have to cultivate close relations with Middle Eastern regimes to even

>> begin resolving the mess in that region. And that president will have

>> to do so saddled from the start with a legacy of denigrating Islam and

>> Muslims.

>>

>>

>> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/01/6785/

>

> Here, I will tell you the truth, it was Zionists who hacked my Computer,

> not

> Muslims! Read this and lets get it out who started this War, and how it is

> just a little over ten thousand elite Rich People, whom united and took

> advantage of the War on Terror, and are expanding it where there was no

> Terrorists attacking the US, and they are promoting, expanding, and

> instigating this War for Profit, at the expense of the US and British and

> Israeli Economies!

>

>

>

> I rewrote some of this to read better!

>

>

>

> "It's Americans OR Democrats" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:59415189-9391-443d-b23f-23ddb28c84e8@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>> Boy! Do THEY have their work cut out for them!!

>>

>> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two mentally disabled women were strapped with

>> explosives Friday and sent into busy Baghdad markets, where they were

>> blown up by remote control, a top Iraqi government official said.

>

> When we the People are at Liberty to provide their our own Security, and

> can

> get

> help from the Government, then our Nation is secure, not until then.

> I don't like the religious racist type stereotyping of people on this post

> that you call ragheads, because this could be the work of Atheist

> Communist

> Zionists, pretending to be Jews and Christians, because this kidnapping

> and

> blowing up mentally impaired people is exactly why the US Government has

> obstructed Justice in my case, and have denied protection to every honest

> Citizen of these United States, by helping the Criminals get away, and

> perhaps the reason why is that the people who hacked my Computer were

> Zionists, and I know that, because they communicated with me on my

> Computer,

> so

> who kidnapped these women and killed them and others, Zionists or Muslims?

> My Medical Records are in Enemy hands and have been since the 1990s, and

> in

> 2003 while hunting Bin Laden and his likes, someone hacked my Computer in

> Kansas City, and tried to make me look like a suicide bomber, and I called

> the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable for help, and they acted like they

> were helping me while setting me up, and blocking us form finding and or

> capturing Osama Bin Laden and his likes.

>

>

>

> Who were these people that hacked my Computer and tried to make me look

> like

> a suicide bomber? Were they planning on kidnapping me and blowing me up by

> remote to expand the War for their Profit? When I was outed as a CID

> Informant in the 1980s I was kidnapped by

> Foreign exchange students from Africa, armed with Stolen US Weapons, so

> why

> when my life is threaten by an enemy of the People of these United States,

> why would they stop the FBI from investigating who hacked my computer and

> used the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable, and the VA, to set me up? Why

> did they lock me up and force drugs on me for an entire year, drugs that

> were already known to cause me harm?

>

> Read this and lets force the Government to come clean on it for the sake

> of

> all of our security!

>

>

>

> Try getting your head on the real Important Issues, like National

> Security and Personal Security and Liberty, and don't let any issue

> distrct

> you from getting both Liberty ann Truth and Justice for every American.

>

> No doubt we should not believe George Bush's Lies.

>

> But don't ignore the Fact that AGW is a Communist spun

> lie, and propaganda used as a Psychological Warfare Tactic so that Iran

> and

> other Communist Countries can promote Nuclear Power, as the solution,

> while

> they make Nukes to destroy us, and this Communist spun lie is coming from

> the same Communist Controlled Environmentalists that forced Margaret

> Thatcher to come up with the Global Cooling to try to win the

> Environmentalists away from the Communists, they just twisted her lie and

> are using it against us, because it will help them destroy our economy

> retooling everything for equipment that will prevent nothing, and it helps

> them destroy our economy by pushing for destroying our Tillable Farmland

> with

> Biofuels Production that will solve nothing, and they are using the lie so

> that they can continue to overthrow our Government by getting

> Environmentalists like you, to attack and destroy both our Top Scientists

> and our Oil Sources that are needed for National Security.

>

> Why are people using the Internet to set up our Veterans and make them

> Homeless? Why are people using the Internet to attack our Businesses and

> outsource our Jobs? What about the right and the left together taking away

> our freedom to choose what Doctors and what medical Treatment that we

> want,

> instead of forced Medical treatment that since the Iraq War Began, caused

> over 6000 Iraq Vets and Tens of Thousands of US Citizens to commit suicide

> or murder suicide because

> of the Medical Maltreatment that they falsely call seeking and getting

> help?

> These People seem to be a Athiest Communist Zionist, pretending to be Jews

> and Christians while persecuting

> true Jews and Christians, and wanting to attack the Arabs, the US Oil

> source

> for National Security. Because the only thing that they can come up with

> when

> someone tells the truth, is just like the Nazis and Soviets, they call

> them

> crazy and try to drug them out of their minds, or try to jail them on

> trumped up charges, or try to rob and kill them.

>

>

> This is how that are abusing US Veterans, with exactly the same problem

> that

> I have been going through ever since I was hit in the head with a rock in

> the 1980s. Only in my case I had early Cat Scans that showed a stroke

> where

> I was hit with the Rock, and have EEGs that show abnormally brain waves

> coming from that area, but most VA Doctors refuse to diagnose it as

> Organic

> Brain Damage, and instead diagnose it as all Psychological, and then they

> even force me to take the same drugs that I had already tried, and when I

> tried them they made me more dysfunctional, and the Neurologists say to

> stop

> taking those dangerous drugs, but Psychiatrists keep trying to force them

> upon me again and again, destroying my life, because of what they wrote in

> my Medical Records.

>

>

>

> And US Politicians, George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, the

> CIA, the FBI, CNN, and the Enemies of the People of these United States,

> conspired together, and used this controversy and my Medical Records, to

> obstruct our efforts of finding and getting Osama Bin Laden and his likes!

> Which is treason against the People of these United States, and as

> Commander

> in Chief, the President himself, those of the CIA involved, and those of

> the

> FBI involved, as well as the other Politicians involved, should be held

> accountable to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

>

>

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/30/brain.injury/index.html

>

>

> An outed CID Informant, or any other outed Agent, and even those that have

> not yet been Publicly outed, has to live on guard at all times, because

> the

> secret files that were recorded only in the White House and in the

> Pentagon,

> for our personal security, have fallen into the wrong hands. So the

> Communists use Domestic Criminals via the Internet to set us up much

> faster

> now, than the ways that they did it before. Our lives and are Liberty are

> at

> risk every moment, because some among the Tax and Spend Democrats, and

> some

> among the Borrow until Economic Collapse Republicans, have betrayed us,

> and

> because of their personal dislikes, the Communists use them, and use

> personal attacks to set us up, and get rid of us for our common enemies!

>

> Who would know better about this, than an outed CID Informant whom was

> outed

> and kidnapped by Legal Foreign Exchanged Students from Africa, armed with

> stolen US Weapons on American soil, in the 1980s?

> Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

>

>

> Here, if you are a real Jew or a real Christian or a real American Athiest

> or not, read what the scriptures say about Rulers and

> their follower that believe lies, and stop the lies and persicuting of

> innocent peole from going any further.

>

> How can we select and elect a Ruler whom does not have wicked servants

> that

> will use the Law to Persecute and destroy the innocent?

>

> Many will disagree on this, that is their right, they have the right to

> either choose to do good or to do evil, and it is my right to choose to

> endeavor to do good, and stand upon and defend my position until death.

>

> Did you believe the lies of WMD in Iraq, or did you help make them up so

> that you could draw the US into an expensive War, to destroy our economy,

> so

> that you could take over our Government and persecute all whom tell the

> truth, as if they were crazy?

>

> Dear Hillary and George, and you Religious Rulers, and you followers of

> the

> Tax and Spend Democrats, and followers of the Borrow until Economic

> Collapse

> Republicans, and followers of the Religious Rulers, and follower of the

> News

> Media, and followers of Environmental Groups. Take a look at your Rulers,

> what are they, and what are you for following them?

>

> Are they Righteous by being truly acquainted with the God of Abraham and

> being faithful to him?

>

> Proverbs 29:12 "If a ruler hearkens to lies, all his servants are wicked."

>

> Your wicked servants are your dogs that do your evil works of setting up

> and

> destroying America, and the lives of Individual Americans, for profit.

>

>

>

> Proverbs 29:7 "The righteous considers the cause of the poor, but the

> wicked

> prefers not to acquaint that."

>

> Yes, your supporters are not only diverted from understanding what causes

> people to become poor, they have decided to take advantage of the Poor,

> and

> make money while destroying them. They are deliberately causing many to

> become poorer, because of your Laws and Regulations, why your Laws and

> Regulations? Because they are being applied and interpreted to defend the

> Rich from the Poor that they wrong.

>

> Proverbs 30:14 "There becomes a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and

> their jaw teeth alike knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and

> the

> needy from among men."

>

> Diverted from our Just Causes of War against Terrorism, it is your

> supporters whom have launched a War on the Poor for profit.

>

>

>

>

>

> 1Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while

> some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves

> through with many sorrows."

>

> Yes, they have not entered the Kingdom of God by acquainting the door to

> the

> Kingdom.

>

> John 10:7-19

>

> "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the

> door of the sheep. All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers:

> but

> the sheep did not hear them. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he

> shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. The thief

> cometh

> not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they

> might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. I am the

> good

> shepherd: the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. But he that is

> an

> hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, sees the wolf

> coming, and leaves the sheep, and flees: and the wolf catches them, and

> scatters the sheep. The hireling flees, because he is an hireling, and

> cares

> not for the sheep. I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known

> of mine. As the Father acquaints me, even so acquaint I the Father: and I

> lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of

> this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there

> shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Therefore does my Father love me,

> because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man takes it

> from

> me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have

> power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

> There

> was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings."

>

>

>

> Matthew 12:38-45

>

> "Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying,

> Master,

> we would see a sign from you. But he answered and said unto them, An evil

> and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and there shall no sign be

> given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three

> days

> and three nights in the fish's belly; so shall the Son of man be three

> days

> and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh shall rise

> in

> judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented

> at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here. The

> queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and

> shall condemn it: for she came from the uttermost parts of the earth to

> hear

> the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. When

> the

> unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walks through dry places, seeking

> rest, and finds none. Then he says, I will return into my house from

> whence

> I came out; and when he is come, he finds it empty, swept, and garnished.

> Then goes he, and takes with himself seven other spirits more wicked than

> himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man

> is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked

> generation."

>

> Matthew 7:1-21

>

> "Judge not, so that you become not judged. For with what judgment you

> judge,

> you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured

> to

> you again. Also why do you behold the mote that is in your brother's eye,

> but considers not the beam that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to

> your brother, Let me pull out the mote out of your eye; and, behold, a

> beam

> is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own

> eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your

> brother's

> eye. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast you your

> pearls

> before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and

> rend you. Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and you shall find; knock,

> and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asks receives; and he

> that seeks finds; and to him that knocks it shall be opened. Or what man

> is

> there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if

> he

> ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how

> to

> give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which

> is

> in heaven give good things to them that ask him? Therefore all things

> whatsoever you would that men should do to you, do you even so to them:

> for

> this is the law and the prophets. Enter you in at the strait gate: for

> wide

> is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and many

> there

> be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way,

> which leads unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false

> prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are

> ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes

> of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good

> fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot

> bring

> forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every

> tree that brings not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the

> fire.

> Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that says unto

> me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does

> the

> will of my Father which is in heaven."

>

>

>

>

> Here, instead of being a fake Zionist, be a true one, Mount Zion has

> nothing

> to do with taking land for a so called chosen People, the chosen People

> are

> Mount Zion wherever they are in the whole world.

>

> Seeking the Holy Mountain of God, where is she? The Holy Mountain of God

> is

> not sand and stones, she is not the arrogant daughters of Zion, she is

> made

> of the meek and humble built upon the sure and tried stone laid in Zion,

> for

> they are those that believe to become acquainted with him, and his Father

> Yahweh, and they are living stones of Holy Mountain Zion, built and fitly

> jointed together, as the Holy Temple of Yahweh, and he that destroys the

> Holy Temple of Yahweh, Yahweh shall destroy.

>

>

> Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

>

> Follow me, I am a US Army Veteran!

>

> As an experienced registered informant for the Criminal Investigation

> Department, of the United States Army, it is doing my Duty to my God, and

> to

> my Country, as I secretly pretend to be one of them, and stand face to

> face

> with Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies, going along with whatever

> interests and activities the Domestic Criminals or Foreign Enemies, have

> busied themselves with, as I secretly suck up all the information, and

> gather all the evidence that I can, about their interests and activities,

> and then I report of their interests and activities, and give the evidence

> to the loyal among the US Government.

>

> We are members of the C.A.L.M. Before the Storm, the Civil American

> Liberties Militia! We are made up of mostly likeminded US Military

> Veterans,

> that are spread across the entire USA, and some abroad, secretly doing our

> Duty to our God, and to our County! We have no membership registry or

> dues,

> we are all Volunteers, and we do not expect any pay, for our Duty that we

> daily do, working separately to bring about our joint effort of defending

> our Families, and our Country, by exercising the Rights that we serve our

> God, and our Country, to defend, against all our common Enemies, Foreign

> and

> Domestic.

>

> In service of God and Country

>

> Joseph R Loegering

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"Christopher Helms" <Chrishelms132@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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On Feb 2, 9:48 am, abelincoln <bushsu...@whitehouse.com> wrote:

>> you're just fucking with us right? nobody could be this fucking crazy.

>Over the last few days, Mr. Loegering has jumped to the top of my

>"MI-5 Prosecution" suspects list.

Oh, you means the MI-5 that would not help answer a simple question like,

how many old hardliner communists went from the fallen Soviet Union to the

State of Israel, and how many old hardliner Communists are using the State

of Israel to overthrow the USA from within?

Turns out those same old hardliners are running MI-5, MI-6, and the BBC,

along with most US Media.

So now you know how that when I was outed, all my History, my Military, my

Criminal, my Medical, and even my Credit and Bank records, all was sent to

Domestic Criminals and Foreign enemies of the people of these United States.

Showing the so called Cray Astronaut and Oil Companies making huge profits,

and accusing their Scientists of lying,

and promoting the lies of AGW, is part of a Communist Plot so that they can

brainwash the Public to help them set up our Top Scientists that we need for

National Security, as being Crazy, and to

destroy our Oil Industry that is needed for National Security. This is what

those old hardliner Communists from the fallen Soviet Union are doing here

in the USA, and Britain, and Israel, they want to brainwash the public into

attacking the Arabs too, to get rid of the US Oil sources that they need for

national Security.

Take a look on the Internet about Nancy Grace and her accusations against

me. Where did CNN get a Copy of my Medical Records since they were making

the accusations of my having a History of Mental Illness before they set me

up and nearly killed me? Where did they get Copies of my Military and

Criminal Records? And why is CNN letting these records be used by both

Domestic Criminals and Foreign Enemies whom want to set up and kill an outed

CID Informant?

CNN and the News Media sets up anyone they want to by first calling them

mentally crazy, then no one in the public will help that person as their

operatives set their target up over and over, until they are completely

destroyed.

I wish I were making it up, but the whole plot sounds so crazy to people, no

one will believe it, and that is why they are getting away with doing it

right before the Publics eyes! That is why no one would actually help me,

when they hacked my computer in 2003 while we were hinting Bin Laden, and

they used CNN, Time Warner Cable, the FBI, the CIA, US Politicians, and the

Internet, to set me up, this

crap is all controlled by these big computers in these Corporations!

Any Lawyer like Nancy Grace who had a 100% conviction rate as a Prosecutor,

has cast off Justice, because of their ability to manufacture convincing

enough lies to prosecute, and get innocent people convicted. They could not

get me for violating any law, so they set me up as being crazy because they

even have the Public Brainwashed to help them do that!

All of my records were sent to enemies of the people of these United States,

after I was outed as a CID Informant in the 1980s and was kidnapped by Armed

Terrorists from Africa, that were Armed with Stolen US Weapons, and they

kidnapped me just outside FT Riley Kansas, and these people are now using

those deliberately falsified Medical Records to try to kill me. And they

used Nancy Grace to try to kill me, to try to silence me about some things

that the people running this country don't want the Public to know.

http://blog.qusan.com/archives/2005_12_01_archive.html

"Joseph R Loegering" <JosephLoegering@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> CNN is being paid off, to help kill Brittany Spears for entertainment and

> to

> brainwash the public into thinking that forced medical treatment is the

> answer

>

> It is the same group of people controlling CNN now, that set me up and

> tried

> to murder me to keep me quiet!

>

> Like I was, Brittany Spears has been set up by CNN, because she is

> exhibiting all the side effects of Psychotropic Drugs, and the News Media

> and Medical Profession is in control of it, making it look like they are

> going to save her with long term Mental Health Treatment, when it is the

> Drugs causing her bad and erotic behavior!

>

> These liars say that she stops taking the Medication just when it is about

> to work. That is a lie, it does not make you feel better while on the

> drugs, it

> makes you feel worse and unaware that your problems are being caused by

> the drugs, then when you realize the drugs are no good,

> that is when they stop taking the drugs, but the withdrawals cause

> erratic and bad behavior for up to a year after stopping taking the drugs.

>

>

> I am living proof that it Was CNN and the Medical Community that hacked my

> computer while I was hunting Bin Laden and his likes, and they tried to

> set me up to look like a suicide bomber, and then tried to say that I was

> nuts, and they repeatedly had Doctors drug me out of my mind trying to get

> me to kill myself! Thoughts of suicide is what all of those drugs case,

> and you are so out of it, you run right back to the people who gave you

> the drugs and caused the problems, thinking that you are going to get

> help, but they give you no help, they only give you more drugs saying that

> it is for the side effects, adding more side effects to the point you

> don't understand what is going on, and the combined side effects start

> taking place until you either commit suicide or murder suicide.

>

>

>

> See all my psost on the Internet about this, the enimies of the People of

> these United States are using CNN to target and drug Americans out of

> their

> minds, even though other Doctors say that those drugs are the cause of the

> Problem.

>

>

> "kT" <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote in message

> news:102bac0f-cb0c-44bf-a274-ecbf86012a29@v17g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>> Actually, I am beginning to see a pattern here, somebody mentioned PG.

>> I've decided to do a little testing. I'll get back to you later on it.

>>

>> The is a test of your constitutional system. Do not be alarmed, this

>> is only a test. Had this been an actual constitutional emergency, you

>> would not be seeing this usenet message :

>>

>> http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

>>

>> http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm

>>

>> Analysis of these seven regimes reveals fourteen common threads that

>> link them in recognizable patterns of national behavior and abuse of

>> power. These basic characteristics are more prevalent and intense in

>> some regimes than in others, but they all share at least some level of

>> similarity.

>>

>> 1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the

>> prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins,

>> the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the

>> regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always

>> obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity

>> were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually

>> coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on

>> xenophobia.

>>

>> 2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves

>> viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing

>> the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda,

>> the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by

>> marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was

>> egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

>>

>> 3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most

>> significant common thread among these regimes was the use of

>> scapegoating as a means to divert the people's attention from other

>> problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in

>> controlled directions. The methods of choice--relentless propaganda and

>> disinformation--were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite

>> "spontaneous" acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists,

>> socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional

>> national enemies, members of other religions, secularists,

>> homosexuals, and "terrorists." Active opponents of these regimes were

>> inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

>>

>> 4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always

>> identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure

>> that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was

>> allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The

>> military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used

>> whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations,

>> and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

>>

>> 5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and

>> the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably

>> viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-

>> abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in

>> Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of

>> the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

>>

>> 6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media

>> were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to

>> stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power

>> to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing

>> and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and

>> implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically

>> compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in

>> keeping the general public unaware of the regimes' excesses.

>>

>> 7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security

>> apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually

>> an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any

>> constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting

>> "national security," and questioning its activities was portrayed as

>> unpatriotic or even treasonous.

>>

>> 8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes,

>> the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless

>> by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves

>> to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray

>> themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the

>> ruling elite's behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the

>> religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the

>> illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and

>> opponents of the "godless." A perception was manufactured that

>> opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

>>

>> 9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of

>> ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large

>> corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The

>> ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure

>> military production (in developed states), but also as an additional

>> means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often

>> pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of

>> interests, especially in the repression of "have-not" citizens.

>>

>> 10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was

>> seen as the one power center that could challenge the political

>> hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was

>> inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass,

>> viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being

>> poor was considered akin to a vice.

>>

>> 11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.

>> Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression

>> associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and

>> academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and

>> the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically

>> unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or

>> expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed.

>> To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national

>> interest or they had no right to exist.

>>

>> 12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes

>> maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison

>> populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked

>> power, leading to rampant abuse. "Normal" and political crime were

>> often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used

>> against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of

>> criminals or "traitors" was often promoted among the population as an

>> excuse for more police power.

>>

>> 13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and

>> close to the power elite often used their position to enrich

>> themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would

>> receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in

>> turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the

>> power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other

>> sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the

>> national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this

>> corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the

>> general population.

>>

>> 14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or

>> public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with

>> candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power

>> elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining

>> control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising

>> opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a

>> last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

>>

>> Does any of this ring alarm bells? Of course not. After all, this is

>> America, officially a democracy with the rule of law, a constitution,

>> a free press, honest elections, and a well-informed public constantly

>> being put on guard against evils. Historical comparisons like these

>> are just exercises in verbal gymnastics. Maybe, maybe not.

>

> Hey fool, waving the symbols of the land of my Fathers is not being caught

> up in the frenzy of what these Traitors are doing. Your are just trying to

> brainwash people into being anti-American!

>

> Check out my Pro-American, Anti-Treasonous Tax and Spend Democratic Party,

> and Anti-Treasonous Borrow until Economic Collapse Republican Party, and

> Anti-Traitor Campaign.

>

> http://www.josephsbusiness.com/

>

>

>

> "MioMyo" <USA_Patriot@Somewhere.com> wrote in message

> news:Z4Toj.5144$5K1.5056@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...

>> Maybe these Marine recruiters should take the day off every time code

>> pink

>> veers their skid-row un-bathed stench!

>>

>> http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/findingclarity/archives/130800.asp?from=blog_last3

>>

>> Before I report on the latest let me say one thing. Dissension is an

>> American tradition. Even the "symbolic gestures" passed by many local

>> communities are traditions of free speech and discourse that I

>> appreciate,

>> and I defend...in principle. In other words, I vigorously defend the

>> rights of American Citizens to protest, to pass initiatives and to

>> complain.

>>

>> However.

>>

>> Freedom of speech works both ways. I have the freedom of dissent too. I

>> have the freedom to see what they do and hear what they say and to

>> protest

>> them. The fact they are engaged in a free speech activity is not cover

>> and shield against retaliation and counter demonstration.

>>

>> In the case of the Military, Berkeley and Code Pink can harass and

>> protest

>> the Marines within the confines of the law and even alter existing law to

>> harass them a bit more. Whether or not that is a violation of various

>> Federal laws is a matter for lawyers and Judges to determine.

>>

>> But, Berkeley and Code Pink must remember that they too are subject to

>> protests in retaliation, whether in the form of boycotts, public displays

>> of disgust and legal action.

>>

>> One thing I have noticed quite often in these situations is that people

>> tend to think free speech creates a vacuum of protection and sanctity.

>> It

>> doesn't. In fact it is not a protection of legal action at all, which

>> means the vandalism committed by Code Pink is subject to criminal

>> prosecution.

>>

>> Free speech is not a protection against consequence.

>>

>> In summary, if they have a right to do what they do, I have the same

>> right

>> to do what I do, and to join the other bloggers in their efforts to

>> protest them.

>>

>

> For me, I am not a peace activists like Code Pink, I reasonably engage the

> enemies of the People of these United States whenever and where ever I can

> smoke them out, but attacking people who could be brought to our side

> without force, or be taken out another way, is wrong! I will continue to

> help get Bin Laden and his likes, but I am not going to kill innocent

> people

> caught in the crossfire of a Political and Religious motivated War, that

> is

> being instigated by a little over ten thousand Rich Elite, whom make money

> off all sides in the conflicts that they finance and instigate. These Rich

> Elite financing all the different sides, and whom are instigating the

> conflicts, are the true enemies of the People of these United States, and

> are truly enemies of all Humanity.

>

> Here I write some of this clearer

>

>

>

>

> "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e30172b0-8e26-4572-939a-7832b8368a92@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

>> Blowback From the GOP's Holy War

>> by Juan Cole

>> For much of January, one might have thought that the Republican

>> candidates for president were already competing against a single

>> opponent. Not one called Hillary or Barack, but with a moniker even

>> more chilling in the eyes of hard-line Republicans: Islamic fascism.

>>

>> The American public, worried about mortgages, recession and a

>> seemingly interminable war in Iraq, was unimpressed -- those who fear-

>> mongered the most about Muslim terrorists have faltered at the polls.

>> Even the remaining front-runners, John McCain and Mitt Romney, have

>> said bigoted things about Muslims and their religion. But Islamophobia

>> as a campaign strategy has failed, and it may well come back to haunt

>> the Republicans in the general election.

>>

>> Back when the GOP presidential field was still flush with tough-

>> talking right-wingers, no one was more outrageous in targeting Muslims

>> than Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, who suggested that Muslim

>> terrorists inside America were plotting the imminent detonation of an

>> atomic bomb on U.S. soil. How to prevent this Tom Clancy scenario? "If

>> it is up to me, we are going to explain that an attack on this

>> homeland of that nature would be followed by an attack on the holy

>> sites in Mecca and Medina," Tancredo declared. "Because that's the

>> only thing I can think of that might deter somebody from doing what

>> they otherwise might do."

>>

>> That sort of wild-eyed bigotry only fuels the cycle of mistrust and

>> vengeance. One can only imagine how much more difficulty Tancredo

>> generated for U.S. diplomats attempting to explain to America's Muslim

>> allies why a presidential candidate was talking about nuking Islam's

>> holiest cities, the larger with a population nearly that of Houston.

>>

>> But the failure of Islamophobia as a campaign strategy is no better

>> illustrated than by the spectacular flame-out of Rudy Giuliani.

>> Throughout his campaign (deep-sixed after his dismal showing in

>> Tuesday's Florida primary), the former New York mayor evoked the Sept.

>> 11 attacks at an absurd rate. Giuliani and his advisors appeared to

>> revel in demonizing Muslims. They also reveled in their own ignorance

>> -- never learning the difference between "Islamic" and "Muslim."

>>

>> "Islamic" has to do with the religion founded by the prophet Mohammed.

>> We speak of Islamic ethics or Islamic art, as things that derive from

>> the religion. "Muslim," on the contrary, describes the believer. It

>> would be perfectly all right to talk about Muslim terrorists, but

>> calling them Islamic terrorists or Islamic fascists implies that the

>> religion of Islam is somehow essentially connected to those extremist

>> movements.

>>

>> Giuliani complained that during their debates, Democratic rivals

>> "never mentioned the word 'Islamic terrorist,' 'Islamic extremist,'

>> 'Islamic fascist,' 'terrorist,' whatever combination of those words

>> you want to use, [the] words never came up." He added, "I can't

>> imagine who you insult if you say 'Islamic terrorist.' You don't

>> insult anyone who is Islamic who isn't a terrorist."

>>

>> But people are not "Islamic," they are Muslim. And one most certainly

>> does insult Muslims by tying their religion to movements such as

>> terrorism or fascism. Muslims perceive a double standard in this

>> regard: Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols would never be called

>> "Christian terrorists" even though they were in close contact with the

>> Christian Identity Movement. No one would speak of Christofascism or

>> Judeofascism as the Republican candidates speak of Islamofascism.

>> Muslims point out that persons of Christian heritage invented fascism,

>> not Muslims, and deny that Muslim movements have any link to the mass

>> politics of the 1930s in Europe.

>>

>> Giuliani's pledge to take the United States on an offensive against

>> Islamic fascism, which he also said would be a long-term battle,

>> failed to excite the imagination of voters. It may well have alarmed

>> them in a way different from what Giuliani intended: If, by Giuliani's

>> logic, the United States is only on the "defensive" now, with wars in

>> Afghanistan and Iraq, what would being on the offensive look like?

>> Would Giuliani have started four wars? Interestingly, Giuliani did

>> especially poorly in Florida among retired and active-duty military

>> personnel.

>>

>> Giuliani was also hurt when the co-chair of his veterans' campaign in

>> New Hampshire, John Deady praised Giuliani for being able to stop "the

>> rise of the Muslims," an effort necessary to continue, he said, until

>> "we defeat them or chase them back to their caves, or, in other words,

>> get rid of them." When asked if he was really condemning all members

>> of the religion, Deady replied, "I don't subscribe to the principle

>> that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They're all Muslims."

>> Deady was forced to resign after a video of his remarks was put on the

>> web by the Guardian. Other Giuliani advisors have had some bigoted

>> things to say about Muslims as well. Rep. Peter King of New York

>> complained that "unfortunately we have too many mosques in this

>> country." Daniel Pipes, a professional Islamophobe advising Giuliani,

>> once said it would be dangerous to let American Muslims vote.

>>

>> Meanwhile, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who has done well among

>> evangelicals but has had difficulty attracting votes from other

>> segments of the Republican Party, had a revealing response to the

>> assassination of Pakistani politician Benazir Bhutto. "I am making the

>> observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our

>> border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of

>> the border," he said. He added, "And in light of what is happening in

>> Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals

>> coming across these borders." In fact, there are almost no Pakistani

>> illegal aliens to speak of in the United States. Only 13 percent of

>> the estimated 12 million persons in the United States illegally are

>> estimated to be Asian, but almost all of them are East Asian.

>> Pakistani and Indian immigrants, moreover, are among the wealthiest

>> immigrants in the country.

>>

>> Current GOP front-runner John McCain has been prone to hyperbole and

>> has let some bigoted statements escape his lips as well. He has said

>> that the threat from Islamic extremism is greater than the one

>> presented by the Soviet Union. Recently, McCain proclaimed, "I'm not

>> interested in trading with al-Qaida. All they want to trade is burqas...

>> " The senator seemed to be relating the Muslim custom of veiling to

>> terrorism. The Detroit Free Press, whose city has one of the largest

>> Muslim populations, reported on Jan. 12 that McCain's remarks were

>> hurtful to American Muslims. "Local Muslims say that criticizing al-

>> Qaida is legitimate, but wonder why he would make a snide remark about

>> a dress? The remark was especially bothersome, some said, considering

>> that McCain's adopted daughter, Bridget McCain, is from one of the

>> biggest Muslim countries, Bangladesh." One would think that raising a

>> daughter from the Muslim world in the United States today would be

>> difficult enough, even without the adoptive father's denigrating the

>> customs of the women from that culture.

>>

>> On another occasion, asked whether a Muslim candidate for president

>> would be acceptable, McCain replied, "I just have to say in all candor

>> that since this nation was founded primarily on Christian principles ...

>> personally, I prefer someone who I know who has a solid grounding in

>> my faith. But that doesn't mean that I'm sure that someone who is

>> Muslim would not make a good president. I don't say that we would rule

>> out under any circumstances someone of a different faith. I just would

>> -- I just feel that that's an important part of our qualifications to

>> lead."

>>

>> But according to Article IV of the U.S. Constitution, "no religious

>> Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public

>> Trust under the United States." Secularists and Jews joined American

>> Muslims in condemning McCain's assertion that the United States was

>> founded on Christian principles, and that Christian faith could be a

>> key determinate for taking the Oval Office.

>>

>> McCain's misconceptions about Muslims and perceived hostility toward

>> them predates his 2008 presidential campaign. In 2005, he said on "The

>> Charlie Rose Show" that a Muslim had killed the Indian political and

>> spiritual figure Mahatma Gandhi. In fact, the assassin belonged to a

>> radical Hindu organization, the RSS.

>>

>> Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has, like his peers, regularly

>> invoked the dangers of "Islamic fascism." He allegedly told one Muslim-

>> American he would not put a Muslim in his Cabinet, since there were

>> not enough Muslim-Americans to justify it. (Romney later denied the

>> charge).

>>

>> Why might all this rhetoric targeting Muslims be unwise? For one

>> thing, allowing the Christian conservative base to set an agenda that

>> demonizes Muslims contains the danger of turning off more moderate

>> segments of the GOP and American voters at large. McCain's comment on

>> the importance of a president's being Christian appeared to have

>> backfired on him in precisely that way.

>>

>> Moreover, Muslim-Americans and Arab-Americans are swing voters in key

>> states such as Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Florida.

>> While they tended to vote for George W. Bush in 2000, by 2004 these

>> groups overwhelmingly supported John Kerry, and the heavy-handed and

>> bigoted rhetoric of the Republican candidates may drive them away from

>> the GOP altogether.

>>

>> The candidates who played to fears of "Islamic fascism" the most --

>> Tancredo, Huckabee and Giuliani -- failed to light any fire under

>> partisans in the party, and they have now faded from the scene. But

>> the campaign has already left behind a bitter legacy of sloganeering

>> against a single religious and ethnic community. The Republicans have

>> repeatedly asserted that Islam has been perverted by radicals; their

>> rhetoric effectively reduced American Muslims to second-class citizens

>> and branded them as suspicious. Perhaps most worrisome of all: If any

>> of the remaining candidates does win the presidency, he is going to

>> have to cultivate close relations with Middle Eastern regimes to even

>> begin resolving the mess in that region. And that president will have

>> to do so saddled from the start with a legacy of denigrating Islam and

>> Muslims.

>>

>>

>> http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/01/6785/

>

> Here, I will tell you the truth, it was Zionists who hacked my Computer,

> not

> Muslims! Read this and lets get it out who started this War, and how it is

> just a little over ten thousand elite Rich People, whom united and took

> advantage of the War on Terror, and are expanding it where there was no

> Terrorists attacking the US, and they are promoting, expanding, and

> instigating this War for Profit, at the expense of the US and British and

> Israeli Economies!

>

>

>

> I rewrote some of this to read better!

>

>

>

> "It's Americans OR Democrats" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:59415189-9391-443d-b23f-23ddb28c84e8@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>> Boy! Do THEY have their work cut out for them!!

>>

>> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Two mentally disabled women were strapped with

>> explosives Friday and sent into busy Baghdad markets, where they were

>> blown up by remote control, a top Iraqi government official said.

>

> When we the People are at Liberty to provide their our own Security, and

> can

> get

> help from the Government, then our Nation is secure, not until then.

> I don't like the religious racist type stereotyping of people on this post

> that you call ragheads, because this could be the work of Atheist

> Communist

> Zionists, pretending to be Jews and Christians, because this kidnapping

> and

> blowing up mentally impaired people is exactly why the US Government has

> obstructed Justice in my case, and have denied protection to every honest

> Citizen of these United States, by helping the Criminals get away, and

> perhaps the reason why is that the people who hacked my Computer were

> Zionists, and I know that, because they communicated with me on my

> Computer,

> so

> who kidnapped these women and killed them and others, Zionists or Muslims?

> My Medical Records are in Enemy hands and have been since the 1990s, and

> in

> 2003 while hunting Bin Laden and his likes, someone hacked my Computer in

> Kansas City, and tried to make me look like a suicide bomber, and I called

> the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable for help, and they acted like they

> were helping me while setting me up, and blocking us form finding and or

> capturing Osama Bin Laden and his likes.

>

>

>

> Who were these people that hacked my Computer and tried to make me look

> like

> a suicide bomber? Were they planning on kidnapping me and blowing me up by

> remote to expand the War for their Profit? When I was outed as a CID

> Informant in the 1980s I was kidnapped by

> Foreign exchange students from Africa, armed with Stolen US Weapons, so

> why

> when my life is threaten by an enemy of the People of these United States,

> why would they stop the FBI from investigating who hacked my computer and

> used the FBI and CNN and Time Warner Cable, and the VA, to set me up? Why

> did they lock me up and force drugs on me for an entire year, drugs that

> were already known to cause me harm?

>

> Read this and lets force the Government to come clean on it for the sake

> of

> all of our security!

>

>

>

> Try getting your head on the real Important Issues, like National

> Security and Personal Security and Liberty, and don't let any issue

> distrct

> you from getting both Liberty ann Truth and Justice for every American.

>

> No doubt we should not believe George Bush's Lies.

>

> But don't ignore the Fact that AGW is a Communist spun

> lie, and propaganda used as a Psychological Warfare Tactic so that Iran

> and

> other Communist Countries can promote Nuclear Power, as the solution,

> while

> they make Nukes to destroy us, and this Communist spun lie is coming from

> the same Communist Controlled Environmentalists that forced Margaret

> Thatcher to come up with the Global Cooling to try to win the

> Environmentalists away from the Communists, they just twisted her lie and

> are using it against us, because it will help them destroy our economy

> retooling everything for equipment that will prevent nothing, and it helps

> them destroy our economy by pushing for destroying our Tillable Farmland

> with

> Biofuels Production that will solve nothing, and they are using the lie so

> that they can continue to overthrow our Government by getting

> Environmentalists like you, to attack and destroy both our Top Scientists

> and our Oil Sources that are needed for National Security.

>

> Why are people using the Internet to set up our Veterans and make them

> Homeless? Why are people using the Internet to attack our Businesses and

> outsource our Jobs? What about the right and the left together taking away

> our freedom to choose what Doctors and what medical Treatment that we

> want,

> instead of forced Medical treatment that since the Iraq War Began, caused

> over 6000 Iraq Vets and Tens of Thousands of US Citizens to commit suicide

> or murder suicide because

> of the Medical Maltreatment that they falsely call seeking and getting

> help?

> These People seem to be a Athiest Communist Zionist, pretending to be Jews

> and Christians while persecuting

> true Jews and Christians, and wanting to attack the Arabs, the US Oil

> source

> for National Security. Because the only thing that they can come up with

> when

> someone tells the truth, is just like the Nazis and Soviets, they call

> them

> crazy and try to drug them out of their minds, or try to jail them on

> trumped up charges, or try to rob and kill them.

>

>

> This is how that are abusing US Veterans, with exactly the same problem

> that

> I have been going through ever since I was hit in the head with a rock in

> the 1980s. Only in my case I had early Cat Scans that showed a stroke

> where

> I was hit with the Rock, and have EEGs that show abnormally brain waves

> coming from that area, but most VA Doctors refuse to diagnose it as

> Organic

> Brain Damage, and instead diagnose it as all Psychological, and then they

> even force me to take the same drugs that I had already tried, and when I

> tried them they made me more dysfunctional, and the Neurologists say to

> stop

> taking those dangerous drugs, but Psychiatrists keep trying to force them

> upon me again and again, destroying my life, because of what they wrote in

> my Medical Records.

>

>

>

> And US Politicians, George Bush, Hillary Clinton, Michael Bloomberg, the

> CIA, the FBI, CNN, and the Enemies of the People of these United States,

> conspired together, and used this controversy and my Medical Records, to

> obstruct our efforts of finding and getting Osama Bin Laden and his likes!

> Which is treason against the People of these United States, and as

> Commander

> in Chief, the President himself, those of the CIA involved, and those of

> the

> FBI involved, as well as the other Politicians involved, should be held

> accountable to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

>

>

> http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/30/brain.injury/index.html

>

>

> An outed CID Informant, or any other outed Agent, and even those that have

> not yet been Publicly outed, has to live on guard at all times, because

> the

> secret files that were recorded only in the White House and in the

> Pentagon,

> for our personal security, have fallen into the wrong hands. So the

> Communists use Domestic Criminals via the Internet to set us up much

> faster

> now, than the ways that they did it before. Our lives and are Liberty are

> at

> risk every moment, because some among the Tax and Spend Democrats, and

> some

> among the Borrow until Economic Collapse Republicans, have betrayed us,

> and

> because of their personal dislikes, the Communists use them, and use

> personal attacks to set us up, and get rid of us for our common enemies!

>

> Who would know better about this, than an outed CID Informant whom was

> outed

> and kidnapped by Legal Foreign Exchanged Students from Africa, armed with

> stolen US Weapons on American soil, in the 1980s?

> Just stay C.A.L.M. Everybody, we are here for you!

>

>

> Here, if you are a real Jew or a real Christian or a real American Athiest

> or not, read what the scriptures say about Rulers and

> their follower that believe lies, and stop the lies and persicuting of

> innocent peole from going any further.

>

> How can we select and elect a Ruler whom does not have wicked servants

> that

> will use the Law to Persecute and destroy the innocent?

>

> Many will disagree on this, that is their right, they have the right to

> either choose to do good or to do evil, and it is my right to choose to

> endeavor to do good, and stand upon and defend my position until death.

>

> Did you believe the lies of WMD in Iraq, or did you help make them up so

> that you could draw the US into an expensive War, to destroy our economy,

> so

> that you could take over our Government and persecute all whom tell the

> truth, as if they were crazy?

>

> Dear Hillary and George, and you Religious Rulers, and you followers of

> the

> Tax and Spend Democrats, and followers of the Borrow until Economic

> Collapse

> Republicans, and followers of the Religious Rulers, and follower of the

> News

> Media, and followers of Environmental Groups. Take a look at your Rulers,

> what are they, and what are you for following them?

>

> Are they Righteous by being truly acquainted with the God of Abraham and

> being faithful to him?

>