On Jun 28, 11:44Â pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue">
> Please reply to and quote my post, not yours. Â Also please continue the
> crosspost to IE General newsgroup. Â Thank you.
>
> Something is very wrong with your computer. Â Properly installed, IE8 does
> not start in No Add-ons mode by default.
>
> If Google Toolbar is installed, does the behavior persist after you
> uninstall it?
>
> Does the behavior persist in your previous IE version after you uninstall
> IE8?
>
> How to uninstall or remove Internet Explorer 8http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>
>
>
> Lagarto_Roca wrote:<span style="color:green">
> > My apologies, you have mistaken my to the point responses as somehow curt,
> > that is not, nor would it be my intention regardless of one’s forum
> > status.
> > I shall elaborate.</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 1. The Security Update # KB969897, installed on 6-10-09 after the initial
> > IE8 install completed.
> > 2. Yes, IE8 has always been starting in No Add-ons mode; this was set as
> > ‘No
> > Add-Ons’ from initial install date.
> > 3. I am familiar with the reset feature in using IE7, even though my
> > symptoms differ from what’s described in #KB923737, clearing of the
> > settings
> > was something done early on.  I’ll venture down that path and reset again,
> > but this will take 3-5 days to test and report back.
> > 4. No, the problem does not occur after booting to safe mode or SM+net.
> > It
> > also doesn’t occur after booting to normal, as rebooting clears the
> > problem.
> > Since it takes 3+ days of usage for the various iexplore.exe processes to
> > appear (accumulate) and pull things down, I disregarded trying it again
> > per
> > your instructions, “Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to
> > test!â€
> > 5. No programs were running during install, along with any firewall
> > disabled.
> > 6. “Just asking for now!!  Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!!† Okay, I’m
> > just confirming no intent to proceed there now.</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > When I discovered this, no IE windows were in use and all temp/browser
> > files
> > were cleared. Â I was working with editing HD .ts files, and these video
> > programs are usage hogs. Â In reviewing through the processes running for a
> > clue to the slowdown, that’s when I ran across the 13 different ie
> > processes
> > listed as running, yet none are use.</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > Please excuse my lengthy post, it is in no way presented as argumentative,
> > only trying to be precise and clear any misconceptions.  I shall try #’s 3
> > and 4 again and report back the results after running a several days,
> > unless
> > there is any additional input.</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > Thanks again for your response.</span>
>
> <paste>
> PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
><span style="color:green">
> > [What's with the combative tone? Â I'm a volunteer and do not represent or
> > work for Microsoft. Â If you don't like my questions, feel free to ignore
> > my
> > posts.]</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 1. Is "Security Update for IE8 (KB969897)" listed in Add/Remove Programs?</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 2. Has IE8 always been starting in No Add-ons mode since you installed it?</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 3. Try Resetting IE Advanced Settings (RIES) anyway, please.</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 4. Please re-read previous #4 and try it briefly. Â Doing so won't have any
> > effect on your "accumulations" (whatever they are).</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 5. Please re-read previous #5a and answer the last question (i.e., Was the
> > Trend Micro application, whatever it is, running in the background when
> > you
> > installed IE8?)</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > 6. I didn't say anything (yet) about using the Restore Point, did I?</span>
><span style="color:green">
> > Lagarto_Roca wrote:<span style="color:darkred">
> >> Thanks for your response.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >> 1. XP Home-Current
> >> 2. Set as ‘No Add-Ons’ from initial install
> >> 3. While similar, those are not the problems I’m having.
> >> 4. Not going there…this accumulation can sometimes take days to build up,
> >> and that’s with heavy IE usage.  Since my last reboot, I’m up from 300MB
> >> to
> >> 1.14GB now, and showing 5 different iexplore.exe listed now, with only
> >> two
> >> IE windows open containing a total of 3 pages between them.
> >> 5. Trend Micro-Current…Trend’s not compatible with other Anti-Spyware
> >> apps,
> >> none are existent, and no other Mc or Nort has ever been installed.
> >> 6. Installing IE8 creates a restore point, no intention of using it here.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >> Everything with IE8 works flawlessly with no other system problems,
> >> including heavy use programs running simultaneously. Â The exception
> >> being,
> >> slow and crawling drop down menus on page headers.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >> -Thanks for your input.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when posting to
> >>> this newsgroup.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> Please answer the following questions by number:</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 1. Is your computer fully-patched at Windows Update currently?</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? Â To
> >>> start
> >>> IE in No Add-ons mode:</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> Â Â => Right-click on the blue IE desktop icon and select Start without
> >>> Add-ons; or</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> Â Â => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
> >>> Explorer (No add-ons).</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
> >>>
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 3. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
> >>>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737<= Read before using!</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 4. Does the behavior persist if you boot into Safe Mode with Networking?
> >>> [Careful! Only remain in Safe Mode just long enough to test!]</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 5a. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
> >>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? Â What anti-spyware
> >>> applications (other than Defender)? Â What third-party firewall (if any)?
> >>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you
> >>> installed
> >>> IE8?</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 5b. Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
> >>> machine
> >>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> 6. Just asking for now!! Â Do NOT use such a Restore Point yet!! => Do
> >>> you
> >>> have an available Restore Point which predates the install of IE8?
> >>> --
> >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>> Lagarto_Roca wrote:
> >>>> After my review of searches involving IE8, I see a pattern of things
> >>>> running
> >>>> slow.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>>> I recently installed IE8, and after a while, things here started to
> >>>> slow
> >>>> also. Â In searching, I brought up the Task Manager and noticed the PF
> >>>> usage
> >>>> was running 3GB in size when it should have been 300MB. Â In searching
> >>>> the
> >>>> processes tab and ranking usage, at the top I noticed 13 different
> >>>> IE.exe
> >>>> files listed and all had massive amounts used, yet all windows were
> >>>> closed.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>>> Rebooting eliminates them all and returns to the normal 2-300MB usage.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>>> I’ve noticed a pattern though.  If you continually launch a new page
> >>>> within
> >>>> the same window, it curtails the effect but is still accumulative as
> >>>> you
> >>>> open and close each IE8 window.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>>> If on the other hand you continue to open new windows instead of pages
> >>>> within a window, it accelerates the usage to the point of slow or
> >>>> non-functioning drag and drops, cursor movement and page refreshes,
> >>>> along
> >>>> with copy/paste not working.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>>> The only way out is a reboot before the system freezes entirely and
> >>>> leaves
> >>>> you stuck.</span></span>
><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">
> >>>> Any ideas?</span></span></span>
I would try Firefox and see if the problem persists. IE seems to be
among the least functional of all the available browsers.