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----- Original Message -----
From: "estalavi" <estaviv@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.business,pa.politics,phl.media,md.general
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:17 AM
Subject: Lung Cancer ,Stock Fraud and Truth in life
> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family for more ways to
> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the big
> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers and
> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape you,
> without trying to sponser alternatives fast enough or strong enough. If
> it
> stopped there that would be one thing. Knowing the news stations keep
> consolidating also shows the intent of rich getting richer and anything is
> possible. For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not
> protecting people from harm from pollution. Some places more affected
> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of the air
> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer, rarely are
> they studies based on pollution numbers although they could if they wanted
> to show harm. Stock brokers and online trade investors often play against
> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once you
> come
> on line to watch porn and trade stocks they will take your money. Its like
> a
> golden rule to them and don't think they can't know your investment
> history
> or how likely you will buy and sell ..aka go opposite your play. Your
> money
> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find
> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it. The willful evolution of
> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your big
> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions) and
> market makers. Seriously it don't matter how good a stock is.. the people
> in
> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your play if
> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse , who
> said stocks are reasonable? Even me when I say not to put a stop order in
> for the last five weeks the stocks go down so fast where one of the few
> times in history a stop order might be needed. Its like whatever option
> you choose, they will find a reason to go against you seriously. Take
> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot , if
> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated.! The
> companies whose crop prices are blamed its going up to fast so they lost
> value too. The only plays that win are the stock companies and insiders
> who know when to buy after you lose.. Read more about this later. so lies,
> taking
> your money and poisoning people in the US is going full blast.. so help me
> god , some of course more then others.
> the most unbelievable destruction of values that is going on in the market
> and in daily life continues and
> is ignored.
> this is just my opinion
>
> How popular and great is your stock? The more popular and the more money
> you
> put in the more reasons the scum in the markets can bet against you and
> you
> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just
> opposite
> your positions!!!!
>
> Please read the whole long post and send it to many people.
>
>
>
>
> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on the
> conclusions I left below:
> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
>> ownership?
>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of the
>> world?
>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>>
>>--------------------------------
>
> ----- ,tx.politics
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM
> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert
>
>
>>> >
>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my opinion
>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a
>>>> reason
>>>> for
>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in jobs ( same
>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was not in the
>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,
>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker upgrades,
>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it don't go
>>>> up
>>>> enough.. read on, The stock
>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually goes
>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for big
>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! . This post
>>>> I
>>>> got more email then any other.
>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is real
>>>> links
>>>> to real studies .
>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in usually
>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it to
>>>>>>>>> go up ( as opposed to investing in short markets) . But it can
>>>>>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.
> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have just
> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' be
> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money shows
> up.almost
> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring it
> back up when your no
> longer
> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (
> usually when the least
> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say to
> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast after
> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
> vulnerable
> and only they make the profits.. and just start the process
> over and over. Insiders and money market
> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade make out too be
> commissions. Don't ever
>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade, thats just my opinion. I saw a stock in
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> time selling for
>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price WITHIN
>>>>>>>>> SECONDS IT was 11.54,,
>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68, again.
>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>> I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time
>>>>>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they can
>>>>>>>>> get away with it. then I bought a stock in real time that was
>>>>>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made
> a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I said to
>>>>>>>>> myself its remotely possible but as soon as I looked at real time
>>>>>>>>> after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone raised it
>>>>>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a
>>>>>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents seconds
>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. This is in
>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get the traders. Never invest in Scott
>>>>>>>>> trade. but of course this in addition to other ways to get your
>>>>>>>>> money and this is legal? lol Legal what? . Never ever
> put a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out . Never ever day
> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best thing is
> to wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day traders
> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or market
> makers or brokers play
> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the
> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to be
> played against!! . the human element is killing
> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the wind...
> . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating the stock
> price
> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went for
> however long they want
> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes this
> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built into
> the
> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six months
> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months ago and
> this is really true.
> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes
> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against Where
> does
> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency recent
> decision ( I
> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station owners to
> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and fewer
> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
> viewpoints.
> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view points.
>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality = write about here.
>>> They say or some say they ignore it because its not true. It is true
>>> what
>>> I am writing about, but don't lose your hard earned money to find out.
>>> Can you gain? Sure but it takes a special investor to gain with big
>>> money. Now more contentions I make about how big gov and industry fix
>>> things have unfair advantages
>
> violence and pollution is ignored in general elections and we have
> basically come to expect thousands of victims with more and more people
> studies to show the cost of harm from all this
>
> . Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without your
> knowledge, ( you know they show the stats of stocks you and your uncle
> never had and you just happened to MISS! and say if you only bought such
> and such time) , then they talk which ones to get in now,, rarely going
> up
> the same percentages if at all , but if you were to know which ones the
> most people put their money in I assure you the stock would stop going up
> that fast almost a dead certain bet...and be played against.. as the
> ..The ones that go up the most ...all just happen to fall beneath the
> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says
> something.like
> .."TILL Wall Street
> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
> it... Why woulda stock stop going up
> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the more
> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of course,
> now
> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the US.
> The
> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as more
> and
> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill
> people.
> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been made to
> show studies of such things yet millions of people are not told how
> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would sooner
> talk
> about bad spinanch in Canada or out west then talk about real dangers
> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away with it.
> I
> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran this
> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here in our
> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Why because they can?
> They
> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going on
> here
> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of the
> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me god. Face
> it
> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. The
> media
> would rather sell oil and kill their own population but then sell
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only knew
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , or percentage of days we don't get clean air
>>>>>>>>> ( thats a number they don't have to do a study for they can just
>>>>>>>>> say we don't ge the most pollution so stop complaining)
> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us and not
> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to be
> harmed at will and gov and industry know better.. Trust me its happening
> in
> certain areas., its the Gods truth. Its ok to choke and be ignored if tv
> news can sell
> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or
>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area.. People say write
>>>>>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answer
>>>>>>>>> ya..Thatsthe mentality of the meaness of society now. Of course
>>>>>>>>> the
> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I write
> about to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision ( I think
> the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that allows Tv station owners to
> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and fewer
> different owners, and less different perspectives of freedom of diverse
> viewpoints.=and objectivity.
> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in general
> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically come
> to
> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing
> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some
>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
> more still then most of the world but thats not
> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
> in the US
> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>
> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing
>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to
>
> $800
> after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. If
> a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a profit
>>>>>>>>> on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging. In
> american the rich and oil companies and brokers get to do it legally and
> they
> get to do it daily . How in the hell can they then get more legislation
> to
> keep getting more ways to
> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also
> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist
> countries so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press
>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that awkward time when it is
>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too early to drag the
>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot.
>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you consider yourself
>>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have
>>>>>>> watched
>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods.
>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate stocks
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your
>>>>>>> investment..its
>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can do
>>>>>>>
>> Finally there are millions without jobs,
> Big companies do away with more operators and use electronic answering
> devices that seldom work. If after 20 minutes an operator does come on
> they
> hang up on you if your not there after waiting so long talking to a
> machine
> that seldome recognizes what you just said.
> Why must people talk to a machine that seldom recognizes what the caller
> (us) is answering! Its amazing how many companies and gov. uses this to
> keep
> people on telephon foreever before someone live answers. Its not like
> people can't do the same job better because they can! Why hire people?
> Easier to poison them and rip them off like in stocks!
>
>
>
>
>
> there are people who get
> commercial
>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air every
>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who get
>>>>>> clean air. . The largest
> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The
> peoplewho
> ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded
>>>>>> streets or malls
> with much traffic or near truck depots and or bus depots and or downwind
> from coal have much more illness then
> the people who live in clean air. but no one tells them these things. .
> there are people who can't afford food or health
> care, yet we bring millions more people here who often need help also!!!
> Everybody hates one another and
> only
> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from
> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its
>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional investigation. You
>>>>>> pay
>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often
>>>>>> combined
> while millions live in poverty.. so why you surprised?
>>>>>> Remember this about stocks
>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They
>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> to sell.
>>>> The republican role models and democrats
>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror, violent
>>>>> crime, murder,
>>>>> dependency on court
>>>>> systems,hate, pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role
>>>>> models
>>>>> have
>>>>> left
>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the people
>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions. Most
>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and yet
>>>>> its
>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs.
>>>>> God help us
>>>>> Are there agood things about US? yes but lets be honest what is
>>>>> happening
>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of death
>>>>> for
>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work or
>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW
>>>>> wrestling as their role models. Social security
> is going to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going to
> need it
> to survive.
> stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,
>>>>>> immigration
>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not
>>>>>> politically
>>>>>> correct), unemployment all virtually ignored by our politicians and
>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that
>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie stars,
>>>>>> and the weather ,
>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like robots,
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't care anymore in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> future.. and they
>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after you..Get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our leaders
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding cause
>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this control filters to
> even
> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their
>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.
> Kids and their families are often treated like dirt because they need
>>>>>> help and workers are not trained right or do what they want.. Some
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> very good though just so you know I am very objective ... so you see
>>>>>> how abuse of control filters
> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...and end
> up putting people at risk down? Do we have a system in place to help
> people
> at risk earlier? Or do we just let the kids join gangs and continue the
> violent spin off?
>
> about stocks..
>
>
> saw such set up and controls and
>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make
>>> no
>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully?
>>> Look
>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money you
>>> have
>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over others.
>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>> crap.....We
>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity between
>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a victim thats
>>> the price you
>>> pay by being ignored.
>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth
>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>> tv
>>>>>> and news
>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and Jerry
>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you will
>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and big
>>>>>> oil
>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>> WW
>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing people I
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy , and go to sleep
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> night without
>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be
>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not always
>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next biggest concern I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for years.
>>>>>> Go
>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They have no
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes
>>>>>> close
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these
>>>>>> things.
>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.
>>>> cameras,
>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and kids
>>>> can
>>>> identify
>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take back
>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let gangs
>>>> take
>>>> control for
>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged to
>>>> stay together? . >>
>>>
>>> We should
>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people hear
>>>> horrible
>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on
>>>> without
>>>> a
>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people murdered
>>>> and
>>>> shooting
>>>> of
>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on inspite
>>>> of
>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do anything
>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their health
>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing their
>>>> life
>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all that.
>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have access to
>>>> speak out.
> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. I
>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab production
>>>>>>> and
>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
> it..Man Face it when the same stations use the same stories over and over
> and
>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more then
>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>>>>
>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone else.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or
>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking more
>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing the
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse traps?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't keep
>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those who are
>> not.
>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect families! so
>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the damages
>> of
>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care about
>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with their
>> life for decisions they had no power of. First never smoke, I did and
>> this
>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced though,
>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the most
>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to examine
>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and where, and
>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that people
>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing their
>> health,
>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much clean
>> air
>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were compared to
>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had the same
>> good habits.
>> People are much more at risk simply living or working on streets with
>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> People in the US are self destructing.
>> mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>> Our role models have left us
>> We take drug enhancement pills , kids come to school with guns, we have
>> more
>> murders then most of world including terrorist countries. Murder is the
>> leading cause of death for women in the US in some age groups. Drug use
>> is
>> starting to increase. Many people are unemployed and not counted.
>> Pollution
>> numbers and descriptions from epa are not protecting people!
>> .., rich get more rules
>> to charge you interest. and keep distancing themselves from people who
>> are
>> poor. You have to be a millionaire to run for Senate or
>> Congress almost. Oil prices have sabotaged business. News media
>> consolidation ignores most everything important. while the world hates by
>> religion and nothing is done about it,, and arming to the bones more ways
>> to
>> destroy each other..some of it is political and economics too but instead
>> of
>> dealing with it we ignore it. . the affects from pollution are
>> horrific (some of you have
>> no idea what day after day without good air does to you, ) We are
>> destroying
>> ourselves and the same people made to breathe it have to pay more to
>> doctors
>> to treat conditions they were not responsible for getting. You will see
>> thousands of studies for different conditions that causes illness but few
>> about pollution damage. The greatest conspiracy I have ever seen in my
>> lifetimes. .What ,is going
>> on here? help someone help. stocks are manipulated and allowed to be
>> played
>> against by insiders, Its not how good a company is its how much of your
>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed to then
>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>> http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view¤t=filter2.jpg
>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered, being
>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down. How do I
>> know? My lungs constrict everyday. I have air filters that turn black in
>> less then 30 days.. I want an investigation about what is going on here.
>> I
>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am thinking
>> there
>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
>> protected
>> from refinery and industry pollution and auto exhausts and so many days
>> without clean air.
>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this is like
>> the twilightzone. Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. We are
>> getting
>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for allergy and
>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business telling you
>> why
>> we need it. Please can we get investigators over here please. What is
>> going
>> on in the us now? what ? what is happening where we get more crime
>> vandalism, and people not graduating.. and crime after crime! What is
>> happening , what has happened in the past.? We need comparisons to people
>> who get clean air. Please someone help..this is totally outrageous our
>> kids
>> are not being protected and we have so many negatives going on here.
>> Please
>> we need lawyers now , and
>> investigators and researchers. Please this is unbelievable
>> remember I told you so Our teams seldom win, American Idol was in
>> Philly
>> and someone with clean air in Oregon and California got the best
>> reviews.
>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The
>> negative
>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or schizophrenic) .
>> If
>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to rest of
>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how harmed we
>> have
>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. I now am
>> completely
>> beside myself with harm done and I want comparisons to show productivity
>> and
>> how much more so then people who got clean air. I seriously think we need
>> a
>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected the
>> people here. The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to continue
>> for
>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
>> depressed
>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
>> respiratory
>> disease and its all ignored. God help --\
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- We
>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of gasoline,
>> to
>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read on
>>
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>>>
>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and cancer
>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path of
>>> coal
>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city prettty
>>> much
>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about worsening
>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming ten
>>> years.
>>> ,
>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more violence, (then
>>> average) kids not learning, and horrible health ratings and ads to
>>> target
>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because politicians let
>>> it
>>> happen.
>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or cab
>>> driver
>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50 also
>>> looks
>>> way older then his
>>> years. and its a shame,, seems like a good guy At a certain point if you
>>> can
>>> tell me how to do well in retiirement or
>>> anyother way when we have the least percentage of days with good air
>>> then
>>> most big cities and number 2 in state for asthma and green house
>>> pollution,,, . You would then not be surprised we are number one for
>>> asthma
>>> ,
>>> respiratory disease, respiratory death and higher then normal in cancers
>>> heart disease and number one in nation for depression. We do horrible in
>>> education and we are one of the worse for violence .most of all your not
>>> told any of this by your newstations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> when you ignore the number one city or two city with asthma and
>>> respiratory
>>> deaths and respiratory prescriptions and when you can compare our number
>>> of
>>> health commercials with other cities and when your graphs also show the
>>> number of days we get good air in total to other communities then I
>>> might
>>> believe but I know what they are . For example one graph said Philly had
>>> 200
>>> days of good air last year, which was totally outrageous lies. It may
>>> have
>>> reached good but many if not most of those days were in moderate zone or
>>> worse most of the time. . Thats one way of getting to say whatever you
>>> want
>>> without showing the reality of the situation.
>>>
>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>>>
>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>
>>> http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3
>>>
>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>
>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>>>
>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>>>
>>> pollution and heart disease
>>>
>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>
>>> parituclate pollution dangers
>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature death,
>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
>>> California
>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25 minutes
>>> to
>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the board
>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine
>>> particles
>>> can occur during a commute.
>>>
>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Southern
>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term exposure to
>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
>>> hardening
>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>>>
>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in over a
>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's not
>>> like
>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months to
>>> years."
>>>
>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
>>> yourself;
>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007 report by
>>> the
>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels during
>>> commutes
>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented
>>> diesel
>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars, buses
>>> and
>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>>>
>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on
>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
>>> alternative
>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
>>> traveling
>>> with little truck traffic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>>>
>>> Dying For a Change -
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause: new
>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a
>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air contributes
>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 percent of
>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to
>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people, or
>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere 2.5
>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the population was
>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have serious
>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and these
>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
>>> incidence of diseases."
>>>
>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>>>
>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 Aug
>>> 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or caring
>>> they
>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in polluted
>>> air
>>> , or not worrying about their diet then worrying about a drugs and
>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give medical
>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that will
>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from the
>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>>>
>>> The
>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is the
>>> same
>>> like diet and bad habits is the differences between people who live
>>> and
>>> work in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the most
>>> time
>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and live
>>> near
>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone ot lives
>>> of
>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the
>>> pollution
>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the last
>>> twenty
>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people who
>>> get
>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly no
>>> fault
>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in together in
>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to human
>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me god.well
>>> what
>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were born
>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I have
>>> done
>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers of
>>> pollution
>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent ill
>>> effects
>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to lessen
>>> them.. Whats that say about this world? I had to scream every day and
>>> tell
>>> people I can't breathe which I couldn't before someone did some things
>>> but
>>> the percentage of time people get good air is still too few. That
>>> wouldn't
>>> be so bad had it not been the case they are cheated out of good health
>>> and
>>> still are and not told. Why should I care If they don't? It says the
>>> world
>>> is a very depressing place to live if we default to harming people and
>>> when
>>> people complain , make a timeline for 2020 to fix it while the people
>>> who
>>> profit by it get to keep doing it. . what kind of role models do we get
>>> for
>>> allowing this to happen. I am saying people in PHilly and pa are being
>>> allowed to lose their health for no good reason when so much more can be
>>> done now. ( also in many other areas close to pollution and on east
>>> coast.
>>>
>>>Ps I say to all Israelis get out of Israel now, your going to be
>>>destroyed,
>>>I sense it and feel it and with all the craziness and arming in the world
>>>its not if , its when. The people in the world are insane and can't seem
>>>to
>>>get along with each other, and ignores many things to justify power.
>>
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> pposite your big money!
>
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weeks for years of stocks gains ( many times up after investors left) to be
lost.. a coincidence? NOT]
----- Original Message -----
From: "estalavi" <estaviv@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.business,pa.politics,phl.media,md.general
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:17 AM
Subject: Lung Cancer ,Stock Fraud and Truth in life
> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family for more ways to
> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the big
> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers and
> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape you,
> without trying to sponser alternatives fast enough or strong enough. If
> it
> stopped there that would be one thing. Knowing the news stations keep
> consolidating also shows the intent of rich getting richer and anything is
> possible. For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not
> protecting people from harm from pollution. Some places more affected
> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of the air
> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer, rarely are
> they studies based on pollution numbers although they could if they wanted
> to show harm. Stock brokers and online trade investors often play against
> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once you
> come
> on line to watch porn and trade stocks they will take your money. Its like
> a
> golden rule to them and don't think they can't know your investment
> history
> or how likely you will buy and sell ..aka go opposite your play. Your
> money
> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find
> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it. The willful evolution of
> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your big
> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions) and
> market makers. Seriously it don't matter how good a stock is.. the people
> in
> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your play if
> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse , who
> said stocks are reasonable? Even me when I say not to put a stop order in
> for the last five weeks the stocks go down so fast where one of the few
> times in history a stop order might be needed. Its like whatever option
> you choose, they will find a reason to go against you seriously. Take
> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot , if
> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated.! The
> companies whose crop prices are blamed its going up to fast so they lost
> value too. The only plays that win are the stock companies and insiders
> who know when to buy after you lose.. Read more about this later. so lies,
> taking
> your money and poisoning people in the US is going full blast.. so help me
> god , some of course more then others.
> the most unbelievable destruction of values that is going on in the market
> and in daily life continues and
> is ignored.
> this is just my opinion
>
> How popular and great is your stock? The more popular and the more money
> you
> put in the more reasons the scum in the markets can bet against you and
> you
> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just
> opposite
> your positions!!!!
>
> Please read the whole long post and send it to many people.
>
>
>
>
> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on the
> conclusions I left below:
> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
>> ownership?
>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries of the
>> world?
>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>>
>>--------------------------------
>
> ----- ,tx.politics
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:26 AM
> Subject: The US our Press Don't Talk about World Alert
>
>
>>> >
>>>> The fixing of the stock market continues and thats just my opinion
>>>> when they see your big money all gains halt. If they don't have a
>>>> reason
>>>> for
>>>> taking it down they will think one up:. recession , drop in jobs ( same
>>>> reason they used to take it up too when maybe your money was not in the
>>>> market lol) smaller then realized profits,
>>>> transportation costs, owner sells, broker downgrades, broker upgrades,
>>>> stock has gone up too much , the stock is no good because it don't go
>>>> up
>>>> enough.. read on, The stock
>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually goes
>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for big
>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! . This post
>>>> I
>>>> got more email then any other.
>>>> My email mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is real
>>>> links
>>>> to real studies .
>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in usually
>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>>>>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it to
>>>>>>>>> go up ( as opposed to investing in short markets) . But it can
>>>>>>>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.
> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have just
> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' be
> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money shows
> up.almost
> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring it
> back up when your no
> longer
> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (
> usually when the least
> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say to
> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast after
> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
> vulnerable
> and only they make the profits.. and just start the process
> over and over. Insiders and money market
> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like Scott Trade make out too be
> commissions. Don't ever
>>>>>>>>> invest in Scott trade, thats just my opinion. I saw a stock in
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> time selling for
>>>>>>>>> approx 11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price WITHIN
>>>>>>>>> SECONDS IT was 11.54,,
>>>>>>>>> it dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
>>>>>>>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for 11.68, again.
>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>> I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time
>>>>>>>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they can
>>>>>>>>> get away with it. then I bought a stock in real time that was
>>>>>>>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made
> a buy order and within five seconds the price was 44. 80. I said to
>>>>>>>>> myself its remotely possible but as soon as I looked at real time
>>>>>>>>> after I bougght the price was 44: 38 again .. someone raised it
>>>>>>>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a
>>>>>>>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down to fifty cents seconds
>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. This is in
>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get the traders. Never invest in Scott
>>>>>>>>> trade. but of course this in addition to other ways to get your
>>>>>>>>> money and this is legal? lol Legal what? . Never ever
> put a stop order in its almost assured to be taken out . Never ever day
> trade, they know your going to pull the trigger fast so the best thing is
> to wait you out till you sell for a loss which is why most day traders
> lose.. The market is a set up now and ploy where human beings or market
> makers or brokers play
> against investors accept they can't lose. Its not how good the
> company is its how much of real money you and I invest ... there is to be
> played against!! . the human element is killing
> free exchange and yet no one cares. its like whistlin in the wind...
> . The truth that some people can legally win by manipulating the stock
> price
> is ignored !!!!!! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went for
> however long they want
> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes this
> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built into
> the
> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six months
> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months ago and
> this is really true.
> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes
> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against Where
> does
> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency recent
> decision ( I
> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station owners to
> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and fewer
> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
> viewpoints.
> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view points.
>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality = write about here.
>>> They say or some say they ignore it because its not true. It is true
>>> what
>>> I am writing about, but don't lose your hard earned money to find out.
>>> Can you gain? Sure but it takes a special investor to gain with big
>>> money. Now more contentions I make about how big gov and industry fix
>>> things have unfair advantages
>
> violence and pollution is ignored in general elections and we have
> basically come to expect thousands of victims with more and more people
> studies to show the cost of harm from all this
>
> . Money sites talk about hidden gems that go up usually without your
> knowledge, ( you know they show the stats of stocks you and your uncle
> never had and you just happened to MISS! and say if you only bought such
> and such time) , then they talk which ones to get in now,, rarely going
> up
> the same percentages if at all , but if you were to know which ones the
> most people put their money in I assure you the stock would stop going up
> that fast almost a dead certain bet...and be played against.. as the
> ..The ones that go up the most ...all just happen to fall beneath the
> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says
> something.like
> .."TILL Wall Street
> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
> it... Why woulda stock stop going up
> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the more
> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of course,
> now
> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the US.
> The
> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as more
> and
> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill
> people.
> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been made to
> show studies of such things yet millions of people are not told how
> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would sooner
> talk
> about bad spinanch in Canada or out west then talk about real dangers
> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away with it.
> I
> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran this
> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here in our
> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Why because they can?
> They
> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going on
> here
> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of the
> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me god. Face
> it
> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. The
> media
> would rather sell oil and kill their own population but then sell
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only knew
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> pollution readings , or percentage of days we don't get clean air
>>>>>>>>> ( thats a number they don't have to do a study for they can just
>>>>>>>>> say we don't ge the most pollution so stop complaining)
> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us and not
> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to be
> harmed at will and gov and industry know better.. Trust me its happening
> in
> certain areas., its the Gods truth. Its ok to choke and be ignored if tv
> news can sell
> you meds.instead of telling you the consequences from this air or
>>>>>>>>> show harm correlations to pollution in the area.. People say write
>>>>>>>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answer
>>>>>>>>> ya..Thatsthe mentality of the meaness of society now. Of course
>>>>>>>>> the
> consolidation of news stations almost assures all these things I write
> about to continue .The federal commerce agency recent decision ( I think
> the exact name alludes me ftc maybe )that allows Tv station owners to
> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and fewer
> different owners, and less different perspectives of freedom of diverse
> viewpoints.=and objectivity.
> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in general
> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically come
> to
> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing
> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in some
>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
> more still then most of the world but thats not
> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
> in the US
> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>
> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing
>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to
>
> $800
> after accumulated late fees and interest, Its legal robbery. If
> a store clerk could get away at selling something for such a profit
>>>>>>>>> on such a low price item they would hold him for gauging. In
> american the rich and oil companies and brokers get to do it legally and
> they
> get to do it daily . How in the hell can they then get more legislation
> to
> keep getting more ways to
> collect? Our congress gives em more ways to collect also
> . We have violence that is worse then many terrorist
> countries so anything is possible. and its totally ignored in our press
>>>>>>>> My Hillbilly friends tell me we are at that awkward time when it is
>>>>>>>> too late for them to fix things, but still too early to drag the
>>>>>>>> bastards out to be shot.
>>>>>>> As long as they are not physically going after you consider yourself
>>>>>>> lucky
>>>>>>> especially if you believed in doing the right things and have
>>>>>>> watched
>>>>>>> depressing things happen to your stocks and neighborhoods.
>>>>>>> We have an economy based on people like this who manipulate stocks
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> tells
>>>>>>> you what you don't want to hear in order to gain from your
>>>>>>> investment..its
>>>>>>> that simple.. If this really happens imagine what else they can do
>>>>>>>
>> Finally there are millions without jobs,
> Big companies do away with more operators and use electronic answering
> devices that seldom work. If after 20 minutes an operator does come on
> they
> hang up on you if your not there after waiting so long talking to a
> machine
> that seldome recognizes what you just said.
> Why must people talk to a machine that seldom recognizes what the caller
> (us) is answering! Its amazing how many companies and gov. uses this to
> keep
> people on telephon foreever before someone live answers. Its not like
> people can't do the same job better because they can! Why hire people?
> Easier to poison them and rip them off like in stocks!
>
>
>
>
>
> there are people who get
> commercial
>> after commerical for nebulizers and have to breathe polluted air every
>>>>>> second of their life or much more then people in other areas who get
>>>>>> clean air. . The largest
> differences in health is often based on the pollution factor. The
> peoplewho
> ate the same things, but live in polluted areas near crowded
>>>>>> streets or malls
> with much traffic or near truck depots and or bus depots and or downwind
> from coal have much more illness then
> the people who live in clean air. but no one tells them these things. .
> there are people who can't afford food or health
> care, yet we bring millions more people here who often need help also!!!
> Everybody hates one another and
> only
> millionaire gets elected. Market makers have a license to steal from
> investors. You never ever day trade or have a stop loss order. its
>>>>>> automatically taken out and not one Congressional investigation. You
>>>>>> pay
>>>>>> more money to oil and energy then anything in your life often
>>>>>> combined
> while millions live in poverty.. so why you surprised?
>>>>>> Remember this about stocks
>>>>>> "> go. The giant up factor is usually when your not in them. They
>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> track your investment knowing your trading history and when your
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> to sell.
>>>> The republican role models and democrats
>>>>> who do nothing about crime, immigration ,dependency on terror, violent
>>>>> crime, murder,
>>>>> dependency on court
>>>>> systems,hate, pollution and oil , coal, and stock scams. Our role
>>>>> models
>>>>> have
>>>>> left
>>>>> us.I repeat our role models have left us.! They just ignore the people
>>>>> who are the real victims and who can't afford to voice opinions. Most
>>>>> people have no clue what some cities welfare lines look like and yet
>>>>> its
>>>>> virtually ignored along with the people who don't have jobs.
>>>>> God help us
>>>>> Are there agood things about US? yes but lets be honest what is
>>>>> happening
>>>>> now .kids come to school with guns, one of the largest cause of death
>>>>> for
>>>>> women in the US is murder. millions not counted out of work or
>>>>> unemployed. Many thousands of kids have violent video games and WW
>>>>> wrestling as their role models. Social security
> is going to have to be in debt for decades to pay people who are going to
> need it
> to survive.
> stocks fixed, pollution damage ignored, global warming ignored,
>>>>>> immigration
>>>>>> ignored, violent crime ignored by all major candidates ( not
>>>>>> politically
>>>>>> correct), unemployment all virtually ignored by our politicians and
>>>>>> press , who virtually put out what they want you to see, not that
>>>>>> which is most important ..along with Britney Spears and movie stars,
>>>>>> and the weather ,
>>>>>> not reality. People seem so cold hearted and controlled like robots,
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> the old movie time machine and see how people don't care anymore in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> future.. and they
>>>>>> become emotionless and if you do care the leaders come after you..Get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> movie and play it back and you tell me if you don't think our leaders
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> like that and people too ... People are immune from responding cause
>>>>>> they are use to it : can we say control and this control filters to
> even
> workers at welfare where some ( not all ) of he workers treat their
>>>>>> clients with total diserespect.
> Kids and their families are often treated like dirt because they need
>>>>>> help and workers are not trained right or do what they want.. Some
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> very good though just so you know I am very objective ... so you see
>>>>>> how abuse of control filters
> down to kids ( bullying) and even people who are suppose to help...and end
> up putting people at risk down? Do we have a system in place to help
> people
> at risk earlier? Or do we just let the kids join gangs and continue the
> violent spin off?
>
> about stocks..
>
>
> saw such set up and controls and
>>> stocks go up and down so fast.. Make
>>> no
>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids bully?
>>> Look
>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money you
>>> have
>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate over others.
>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>> crap.....We
>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity between
>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a victim thats
>>> the price you
>>> pay by being ignored.
>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the Tooth
>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>> tv
>>>>>> and news
>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and Jerry
>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know you will
>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If your
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations and big
>>>>>> oil
>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>> WW
>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing people I
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy , and go to sleep
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> night without
>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be
>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not always
>>>>>> about decpetions and control. . Seriously the next biggest concern I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for years.
>>>>>> Go
>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops. They have no
>>>>>> hope
>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime comes
>>>>>> close
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these
>>>>>> things.
>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.
>>>> cameras,
>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and kids
>>>> can
>>>> identify
>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Do we empower kids to take back
>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let gangs
>>>> take
>>>> control for
>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families encouraged to
>>>> stay together? . >>
>>>
>>> We should
>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>> life. death penalty don't work. Torture is when good people hear
>>>> horrible
>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going on
>>>> without
>>>> a
>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people murdered
>>>> and
>>>> shooting
>>>> of
>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on inspite
>>>> of
>>>> advances in technology in every other area.Not one idea to do anything
>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their health
>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing their
>>>> life
>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all that.
>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have access to
>>>> speak out.
> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers. I
>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab production
>>>>>>> and
>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
> it..Man Face it when the same stations use the same stories over and over
> and
>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more then
>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>>>>
>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone else.
>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or
>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking more
>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing the
>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse traps?
>
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>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't keep
>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those who are
>> not.
>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect families! so
>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the damages
>> of
>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care about
>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with their
>> life for decisions they had no power of. First never smoke, I did and
>> this
>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced though,
>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the most
>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to examine
>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and where, and
>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that people
>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing their
>> health,
>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much clean
>> air
>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were compared to
>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had the same
>> good habits.
>> People are much more at risk simply living or working on streets with
>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>> People in the US are self destructing.
>> mcsantpollution@yahoo.com
>> Our role models have left us
>> We take drug enhancement pills , kids come to school with guns, we have
>> more
>> murders then most of world including terrorist countries. Murder is the
>> leading cause of death for women in the US in some age groups. Drug use
>> is
>> starting to increase. Many people are unemployed and not counted.
>> Pollution
>> numbers and descriptions from epa are not protecting people!
>> .., rich get more rules
>> to charge you interest. and keep distancing themselves from people who
>> are
>> poor. You have to be a millionaire to run for Senate or
>> Congress almost. Oil prices have sabotaged business. News media
>> consolidation ignores most everything important. while the world hates by
>> religion and nothing is done about it,, and arming to the bones more ways
>> to
>> destroy each other..some of it is political and economics too but instead
>> of
>> dealing with it we ignore it. . the affects from pollution are
>> horrific (some of you have
>> no idea what day after day without good air does to you, ) We are
>> destroying
>> ourselves and the same people made to breathe it have to pay more to
>> doctors
>> to treat conditions they were not responsible for getting. You will see
>> thousands of studies for different conditions that causes illness but few
>> about pollution damage. The greatest conspiracy I have ever seen in my
>> lifetimes. .What ,is going
>> on here? help someone help. stocks are manipulated and allowed to be
>> played
>> against by insiders, Its not how good a company is its how much of your
>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed to then
>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>> http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view¤t=filter2.jpg
>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered, being
>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down. How do I
>> know? My lungs constrict everyday. I have air filters that turn black in
>> less then 30 days.. I want an investigation about what is going on here.
>> I
>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am thinking
>> there
>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
>> protected
>> from refinery and industry pollution and auto exhausts and so many days
>> without clean air.
>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this is like
>> the twilightzone. Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. We are
>> getting
>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for allergy and
>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business telling you
>> why
>> we need it. Please can we get investigators over here please. What is
>> going
>> on in the us now? what ? what is happening where we get more crime
>> vandalism, and people not graduating.. and crime after crime! What is
>> happening , what has happened in the past.? We need comparisons to people
>> who get clean air. Please someone help..this is totally outrageous our
>> kids
>> are not being protected and we have so many negatives going on here.
>> Please
>> we need lawyers now , and
>> investigators and researchers. Please this is unbelievable
>> remember I told you so Our teams seldom win, American Idol was in
>> Philly
>> and someone with clean air in Oregon and California got the best
>> reviews.
>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The
>> negative
>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or schizophrenic) .
>> If
>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to rest of
>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how harmed we
>> have
>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. I now am
>> completely
>> beside myself with harm done and I want comparisons to show productivity
>> and
>> how much more so then people who got clean air. I seriously think we need
>> a
>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected the
>> people here. The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to continue
>> for
>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
>> depressed
>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
>> respiratory
>> disease and its all ignored. God help --\
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- We
>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of gasoline,
>> to
>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read on
>>
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>>>
>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and cancer
>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path of
>>> coal
>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city prettty
>>> much
>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about worsening
>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming ten
>>> years.
>>> ,
>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more violence, (then
>>> average) kids not learning, and horrible health ratings and ads to
>>> target
>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because politicians let
>>> it
>>> happen.
>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or cab
>>> driver
>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50 also
>>> looks
>>> way older then his
>>> years. and its a shame,, seems like a good guy At a certain point if you
>>> can
>>> tell me how to do well in retiirement or
>>> anyother way when we have the least percentage of days with good air
>>> then
>>> most big cities and number 2 in state for asthma and green house
>>> pollution,,, . You would then not be surprised we are number one for
>>> asthma
>>> ,
>>> respiratory disease, respiratory death and higher then normal in cancers
>>> heart disease and number one in nation for depression. We do horrible in
>>> education and we are one of the worse for violence .most of all your not
>>> told any of this by your newstations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> when you ignore the number one city or two city with asthma and
>>> respiratory
>>> deaths and respiratory prescriptions and when you can compare our number
>>> of
>>> health commercials with other cities and when your graphs also show the
>>> number of days we get good air in total to other communities then I
>>> might
>>> believe but I know what they are . For example one graph said Philly had
>>> 200
>>> days of good air last year, which was totally outrageous lies. It may
>>> have
>>> reached good but many if not most of those days were in moderate zone or
>>> worse most of the time. . Thats one way of getting to say whatever you
>>> want
>>> without showing the reality of the situation.
>>>
>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE
>>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>>>
>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>
>>> http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3
>>>
>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>
>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>>>
>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>>>
>>> pollution and heart disease
>>>
>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>
>>> parituclate pollution dangers
>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature death,
>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
>>> California
>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25 minutes
>>> to
>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the board
>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine
>>> particles
>>> can occur during a commute.
>>>
>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of Southern
>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term exposure to
>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
>>> hardening
>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>>>
>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in over a
>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's not
>>> like
>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months to
>>> years."
>>>
>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
>>> yourself;
>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007 report by
>>> the
>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels during
>>> commutes
>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented
>>> diesel
>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars, buses
>>> and
>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>>>
>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on
>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
>>> alternative
>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
>>> traveling
>>> with little truck traffic
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>>>
>>> Dying For a Change -
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause: new
>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a
>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air contributes
>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 percent of
>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to
>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people, or
>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere 2.5
>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the population was
>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have serious
>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and these
>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
>>> incidence of diseases."
>>>
>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>>>
>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 Aug
>>> 2007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or caring
>>> they
>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in polluted
>>> air
>>> , or not worrying about their diet then worrying about a drugs and
>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give medical
>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that will
>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from the
>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>>>
>>> The
>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is the
>>> same
>>> like diet and bad habits is the differences between people who live
>>> and
>>> work in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the most
>>> time
>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and live
>>> near
>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone ot lives
>>> of
>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the
>>> pollution
>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the last
>>> twenty
>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people who
>>> get
>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly no
>>> fault
>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in together in
>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to human
>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me god.well
>>> what
>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were born
>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I have
>>> done
>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers of
>>> pollution
>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent ill
>>> effects
>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to lessen
>>> them.. Whats that say about this world? I had to scream every day and
>>> tell
>>> people I can't breathe which I couldn't before someone did some things
>>> but
>>> the percentage of time people get good air is still too few. That
>>> wouldn't
>>> be so bad had it not been the case they are cheated out of good health
>>> and
>>> still are and not told. Why should I care If they don't? It says the
>>> world
>>> is a very depressing place to live if we default to harming people and
>>> when
>>> people complain , make a timeline for 2020 to fix it while the people
>>> who
>>> profit by it get to keep doing it. . what kind of role models do we get
>>> for
>>> allowing this to happen. I am saying people in PHilly and pa are being
>>> allowed to lose their health for no good reason when so much more can be
>>> done now. ( also in many other areas close to pollution and on east
>>> coast.
>>>
>>>Ps I say to all Israelis get out of Israel now, your going to be
>>>destroyed,
>>>I sense it and feel it and with all the craziness and arming in the world
>>>its not if , its when. The people in the world are insane and can't seem
>>>to
>>>get along with each other, and ignores many things to justify power.
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