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February 14, 2008

US Ground Forces: More Money Needed

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 8:10 p.m. ET



WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Army and Marine Corps need nearly $7 billion more
than President Bush requested in next year's budget, according to documents
that highlight a significant shortfall at a time when ground forces are
carrying the brunt of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Service officials said Bush's proposal for the budget year that begins Oct.
1 was adequate to meet their objectives. But they said much more could be
done and faster to improve the military's ability to fight.

''In a time of war and in an era of persistent conflict ... significant
challenges remain,'' Gen. George Casey, the Army's chief of staff, wrote
lawmakers.

The Navy and Air Force also identified a multibillion-dollar budget gap in
what is known on Capitol Hill as service ''wish lists.''

An annual tradition, the services give Congress details on every item and
weapons program they wish could have been included in the president's budget
request to Congress, but were denied because of financial constraints. The
lawmakers, who request the lists, use them to develop spending legislation.

Democrats, who hold a majority in the House and Senate, are looking for new
ways to challenge Bush on the Iraq war. Lacking enough votes to force troops
home, Democrat are expected in the months ahead to try to focus on the cost
of the war and allegations of contractor abuse.

Sen. Robert Byrd, chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said
Thursday he wants hearings on the matter.

As long as Iraqi officials and contractors ''continue to profit from
corruption and an unchecked ability to commit fraud, waste and abuse, there
is little incentive for anyone to make the progress that would assist the
United States and the rest of the international community in departing,''
said Byrd, D-W.Va.

Democrats on the House Appropriations subcommittee on defense are preparing
legislation that could allot as much as $100 billion to the military in the
current budget year, but likely insist troops come home by the end of the
year.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated she is in no hurry to provide the
military the money. ''I have been told on good authority that our military
has all that it needs until June or July,'' said Pelosi, D-Calif.

In his letter to lawmakers, Casey said it is of ''primary concern'' that
Congress approve before Memorial Day in late May the $102.5 billion the
military needs this budget year, which ends Sept. 30.

As for the Army's 2009 wish list, Casey said the $3.9 billion focuses on
equipment for its National Guard. Items include fire trucks, GPS technology,
small arms, night-vision goggles and water purification systems.

''Accelerating funding for these items would help to ensure that Guard units
continue to fulfill a critical role in supporting civil authorities in
domestic disaster relief operations that occur during fires, hurricanes,
floods and earthquakes,'' he wrote.

The Marine Corps' $3 billion list includes $1.7 billion for a new amphibious
force ship. Other items include lightweight howitzers, armored vehicles and
day care centers in Hawaii and North Carolina. The Navy's $4.6 billion wish
list included the $1.7 billion amphibious force ship as well.

The Air Force identified the heftiest wish list, identifying some $18.8
billion in ''unfunded requirements.'' Its list included almost $668 million
to correct a backlog in equipment maintenance and $600 million to buy four
F-22 fighters.
 
thanks to the incompetent fool and his illegal get saddam wet dream
invasion, the us dollar is now worthless than the canadian
dollar....when was the last time that was true....????


you guessed, it...not since the war criminal, the torturing turd, the
draft dodging coward from the tang got selected by those supreme court
neocon ass****ers....

they had to pry long dong thomas away from his porno videos for that
vote.....

the good news is: less than a year to go....

can the country stay together until hillary can pull it out of its
malaise and the ****ing iraqi quagmire the moron bush and his
halliburton whore ass-wipe buddy cheney have gotten us into.....???
 
spammer wrote:
> Whining won't help.


What do you propose?

Iraq is a bottomless pit


February 14, 2008

US Ground Forces: More Money Needed

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 8:10 p.m. ET



WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Army and Marine Corps need nearly $7 billion more
than President Bush requested in next year's budget, according to documents
that highlight a significant shortfall at a time when ground forces are
carrying the brunt of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Service officials said Bush's proposal for the budget year that begins Oct.
1 was adequate to meet their objectives. But they said much more could be
done and faster to improve the military's ability to fight.

''In a time of war and in an era of persistent conflict ... significant
challenges remain,'' Gen. George Casey, the Army's chief of staff, wrote
lawmakers.

The Navy and Air Force also identified a multibillion-dollar budget gap in
what is known on Capitol Hill as service ''wish lists.''

An annual tradition, the services give Congress details on every item and
weapons program they wish could have been included in the president's budget
request to Congress, but were denied because of financial constraints. The
lawmakers, who request the lists, use them to develop spending legislation.

Democrats, who hold a majority in the House and Senate, are looking for new
ways to challenge Bush on the Iraq war. Lacking enough votes to force troops
home, Democrat are expected in the months ahead to try to focus on the cost
of the war and allegations of contractor abuse.

Sen. Robert Byrd, chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said
Thursday he wants hearings on the matter.

As long as Iraqi officials and contractors ''continue to profit from
corruption and an unchecked ability to commit fraud, waste and abuse, there
is little incentive for anyone to make the progress that would assist the
United States and the rest of the international community in departing,''
said Byrd, D-W.Va.

Democrats on the House Appropriations subcommittee on defense are preparing
legislation that could allot as much as $100 billion to the military in the
current budget year, but likely insist troops come home by the end of the
year.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated she is in no hurry to provide the
military the money. ''I have been told on good authority that our military
has all that it needs until June or July,'' said Pelosi, D-Calif.

In his letter to lawmakers, Casey said it is of ''primary concern'' that
Congress approve before Memorial Day in late May the $102.5 billion the
military needs this budget year, which ends Sept. 30.

As for the Army's 2009 wish list, Casey said the $3.9 billion focuses on
equipment for its National Guard. Items include fire trucks, GPS technology,
small arms, night-vision goggles and water purification systems.

''Accelerating funding for these items would help to ensure that Guard units
continue to fulfill a critical role in supporting civil authorities in
domestic disaster relief operations that occur during fires, hurricanes,
floods and earthquakes,'' he wrote.

The Marine Corps' $3 billion list includes $1.7 billion for a new amphibious
force ship. Other items include lightweight howitzers, armored vehicles and
day care centers in Hawaii and North Carolina. The Navy's $4.6 billion wish
list included the $1.7 billion amphibious force ship as well.

The Air Force identified the heftiest wish list, identifying some $18.8
billion in ''unfunded requirements.'' Its list included almost $668 million
to correct a backlog in equipment maintenance and $600 million to buy four
F-22 fighters.
 
> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed
So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a better
place.

> Iraq, a bottomless pit

Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
happening).

Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to withdraw
the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole country and make
it go genocidal) so they can go to war with Pakistan and Iran. All of
which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his ilk support.
 
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
>> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed

> So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a better
> place.
>
>> Iraq, a bottomless pit

> Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
> that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
> happening).
>
> Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to withdraw
> the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole country and make
> it go genocidal) so they can go to war with Pakistan and Iran. All of
> which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his ilk support.


We can't lose in
Iraq going forward.

jr lost this war the
very first day he
got this wet dream
 
yes it will,

let's see how many of the republican maggots get elected in November
"spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:243e0f7d-9a3b-4b9c-97c0-c59dbdd2dd4b@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com...
> Whining won't help.
 
spammer wrote:
> On Feb 14, 9:41 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> spammer wrote:
>>> Whining won't help.

>>
>> What do you propose?
>>

>
>
> That you stop whining for one thing. Or at least come up with
> something new to whine about.


There's no escape....burying your head in the sand (snipping my post)
wont make this Republican **** go away:

Iraq is still bottomless pit


February 14, 2008

US Ground Forces: More Money Needed

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Filed at 8:10 p.m. ET



WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Army and Marine Corps need nearly $7 billion more
than President Bush requested in next year's budget, according to documents
that highlight a significant shortfall at a time when ground forces are
carrying the brunt of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Service officials said Bush's proposal for the budget year that begins Oct.
1 was adequate to meet their objectives. But they said much more could be
done and faster to improve the military's ability to fight.

''In a time of war and in an era of persistent conflict ... significant
challenges remain,'' Gen. George Casey, the Army's chief of staff, wrote
lawmakers.

The Navy and Air Force also identified a multibillion-dollar budget gap in
what is known on Capitol Hill as service ''wish lists.''

An annual tradition, the services give Congress details on every item and
weapons program they wish could have been included in the president's budget
request to Congress, but were denied because of financial constraints. The
lawmakers, who request the lists, use them to develop spending legislation.

Democrats, who hold a majority in the House and Senate, are looking for new
ways to challenge Bush on the Iraq war. Lacking enough votes to force troops
home, Democrat are expected in the months ahead to try to focus on the cost
of the war and allegations of contractor abuse.

Sen. Robert Byrd, chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, said
Thursday he wants hearings on the matter.

As long as Iraqi officials and contractors ''continue to profit from
corruption and an unchecked ability to commit fraud, waste and abuse, there
is little incentive for anyone to make the progress that would assist the
United States and the rest of the international community in departing,''
said Byrd, D-W.Va.

Democrats on the House Appropriations subcommittee on defense are preparing
legislation that could allot as much as $100 billion to the military in the
current budget year, but likely insist troops come home by the end of the
year.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi indicated she is in no hurry to provide the
military the money. ''I have been told on good authority that our military
has all that it needs until June or July,'' said Pelosi, D-Calif.

In his letter to lawmakers, Casey said it is of ''primary concern'' that
Congress approve before Memorial Day in late May the $102.5 billion the
military needs this budget year, which ends Sept. 30.

As for the Army's 2009 wish list, Casey said the $3.9 billion focuses on
equipment for its National Guard. Items include fire trucks, GPS technology,
small arms, night-vision goggles and water purification systems.

''Accelerating funding for these items would help to ensure that Guard units
continue to fulfill a critical role in supporting civil authorities in
domestic disaster relief operations that occur during fires, hurricanes,
floods and earthquakes,'' he wrote.

The Marine Corps' $3 billion list includes $1.7 billion for a new amphibious
force ship. Other items include lightweight howitzers, armored vehicles and
day care centers in Hawaii and North Carolina. The Navy's $4.6 billion wish
list included the $1.7 billion amphibious force ship as well.

The Air Force identified the heftiest wish list, identifying some $18.8
billion in ''unfunded requirements.'' Its list included almost $668 million
to correct a backlog in equipment maintenance and $600 million to buy four
F-22 fighters.
 
"spammer" <serebel1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:99ad2d95-85d7-4c73-809f-b46e022ef2dc@o10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 14, 9:41 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> spammer wrote:
> > Whining won't help.

>
> What do you propose?
>



> That you stop whining for one thing. Or at least come up with
>something new to whine about.


as usual, the retarded, simple and feeble minded hillbilly has nothing to
add,

probably in a hurry to go suck off some hairy,fat assed, unwashed hillbilly
in the men's room
 
"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
<messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fc25a14a-7628-4a14-96c8-a305e47e67f9@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed

> So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a better
> place.
>
>> Iraq, a bottomless pit

> Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
> that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
> happening).
>
> Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to withdraw
> the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole country and make
> it go genocidal) so they can go to war with Pakistan and Iran. All of
> which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his ilk support.
>


you can have all the wars you can pay for and are willing to fight in,

but I suspect you're just another gutless, loud mouth, yellow, hillbilly
coward like the rest
 
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
> On Feb 14, 8:49 pm, "Robbing Gator" <A...@CrocsBiteaBillyToday.com>
> wrote:
>> "Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking
>> head"<messiah2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fc25a14a-7628-4a14-96c8-a305e47e67f9@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed
>>> So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a
>>> better place.

>>
>>>> Iraq, a bottomless pit
>>> Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
>>> that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
>>> happening).

>>
>>> Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to
>>> withdraw the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole
>>> country and make it go genocidal) so they can go to war with
>>> Pakistan and Iran. All of which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his
>>> ilk support.

>>
>> you can have all the wars you can pay for and are willing to fight
>> in,

> So, IOW, we cant support cops, soldiers, FBI agents, Doctors, you name
> it....Unless we are going to sign up to be them all. You sir, are a
> ****ing moron....
>>
>> but I suspect you're just another gutless, loud mouth, yellow,
>> hillbilly
>> coward like the rest

> Typical ignorant argument from an Obama(wants to go to war with
> Pakistan and Iran) supporter.



How do propose that we pay for this Republican ego trip in Iraq?
So far Republicans have borrowed every nickel
 
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
> On Feb 14, 7:16 pm, "Sid9" <s...@bellsouth.net> the fake antiwar clown
> wrote:
>> Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
>>
>>>> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed
>>> So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a
>>> better place.

>>
>>>> Iraq, a bottomless pit
>>> Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
>>> that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
>>> happening).

>>
>>> Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to
>>> withdraw the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole
>>> country and make it go genocidal) so they can go to war with
>>> Pakistan and Iran. All of which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his
>>> ilk support.

>>
>> We can't lose in Iraq going forward. jr lost this war the
>> very first day he got this wet dream

> In your fake antiwar clown opinion...Which isn't worth ****.



You and jr are in the minority.
Most Americans including our
troops no oppose staying there
 
> >>>> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed
> >>> So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a
> >>> better place.

>
> >>>> Iraq, a bottomless pit
> >>> Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
> >>> that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
> >>> happening).

>
> >>> Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to
> >>> withdraw the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole
> >>> country and make it go genocidal) so they can go to war with
> >>> Pakistan and Iran. All of which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his
> >>> ilk support.

>
> >> We can't lose in Iraq going forward. jr lost this war the
> >> very first day he got this wet dream

> > In your fake antiwar clown opinion...Which isn't worth ****.

>
> You and jr are in the minority.

If that were true(answer below)...There is a reason America doesn't
work by mob rule. See "Mob Appeal" fallacy
>
> Most Americans including our
> troops no oppose staying there

Yea, why don't you prove this? Cite this imaginary vote where all 300
million plus Americans/armed forces voted for what they wanted.

Note: If everyone agreed with you...Then why do you need so many
accounts? <Wahahahahahaha>
 
> How do propose that we pay for Iraq?
A) The same way we are.
B) How do you propose to pay for Iran and Pakistan?
>
> So far Republicans have borrowed every nickel

Which involves the US handing out greenbacks...Which will eventually
be used to buy American goods and services. US debt is one giant
subsidy for the US.
 
Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
>> How do propose that we pay for Iraq?

> A) The same way we are.
> B) How do you propose to pay for Iran and Pakistan?
>>
>> So far Republicans have borrowed every nickel

> Which involves the US handing out greenbacks...Which will eventually
> be used to buy American goods and services. US debt is one giant
> subsidy for the US.



We borrow every nickel for this war from Red China.
Every dollar has to be paid back plus interest

Obama or Hillary will not get us into a war with Iran or Pakistan.
 
"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
<messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:32458f26-3396-465c-be20-b1723e83c3a3@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 14, 8:49 pm, "Robbing Gator" <A...@CrocsBiteaBillyToday.com>
wrote:
> "Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking
> head"<messiah2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fc25a14a-7628-4a14-96c8-a305e47e67f9@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> US Ground Forces: More Money Needed

> > So who gives as ****...Bush is giving people jobs making Iraq a better
> > place.

>
> >> Iraq, a bottomless pit

> > Only if your one of the Pelosi loons(like sid9(fake antiwar clown))
> > that has a vested interest in the US losing(which is no where near
> > happening).

>
> > Remember: Obama(racist crackhead con man) and Clinton want to withdraw
> > the troops from Iraq(possibly destabilize the whole country and make
> > it go genocidal) so they can go to war with Pakistan and Iran. All of
> > which sid9(fake antiwar clown) and his ilk support.

>
> you can have all the wars you can pay for and are willing to fight in,

So, IOW, we cant support cops, soldiers, FBI agents, Doctors, you name
it....Unless we are going to sign up to be them all. You sir, are a
****ing moron....
>
> but I suspect you're just another gutless, loud mouth, yellow, hillbilly
> coward like the rest

Typical ignorant argument from an Obama(wants to go to war with
Pakistan and Iran) supporter.


hey gomer, if you really believe that crap, then you're a total imbecile,

but I think you're just using that disinformation thinking that anyone but a
hillbilly retard will believe it

so that just makes you the typical, low intellect hillbilly retard
 
"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Mojtj.83980$_m.53529@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head wrote:
>>> How do propose that we pay for Iraq?

>> A) The same way we are.
>> B) How do you propose to pay for Iran and Pakistan?
>>>
>>> So far Republicans have borrowed every nickel

>> Which involves the US handing out greenbacks...Which will eventually
>> be used to buy American goods and services. US debt is one giant
>> subsidy for the US.

>
>
> We borrow every nickel for this war from Red China.
> Every dollar has to be paid back plus interest
>

these hillbillies don't understand anything about money, that's why they're
all such easy prey, desperate for 30 or 40 grand,
and all they have to do is go get their ignorant asses wasted for the bush
and cheney war heroes, make their children orphans and their wives
widows,

only retarded, retrograde hillbillies can be this ****ing stupid,

and if they do survive, what do they do with that $40,000 ?

they buy a ****ing $45,000 pickup truck, and keep living in those squalid
trailers,
while their kids run around barefoot
 
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