=======> IS THIS THE BIG ONE? <=======

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ChasNemo

Guest
Yup. It's true. Yesterday world markets were in "free fall"
according to CNN, and today India and much of the rest of the East is
off close to 10%!!!

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19126.htm

IS THIS THE BIG ONE?
By Mike Whitney

21/01/08 "ICH" --- - On Monday, fears of a US recession spilled over
into Asian markets sending stocks tumbling. Indexes were hammered
across the board in what turned out to be the worst day of trading
since 2001. In India, the Bombay Sensitive Index plunged 1408 points,
to 17,605. In China, the Shanghai Composite dropped 266 points (or
5.5%) to 23,818, while in Japan, the Nikkei fell 535 points, to 13,325
points. The bloodletting stretched across the continent and into
Europe where shares nosedived by more than 4% by mid-morning "putting
them on track for their biggest one-day fall in more than four and a
half years."

The huge sell-off is a sign that global investors do not believe that
the Fed's rate cuts or President Bush's $150 billion "stimulus
package" can revive the flagging economy or breathe new life into the
over-extended US consumer. After Monday's sharp downturn, the
prospects for averting a deep and protracted recession are slim to
none.

Economics Professor Nouriel Roubini summed it up like this nearly a
month ago:

"The United States has now effectively entered into a serious and
painful recession. The debate is not anymore on whether the economy
will experience a soft landing or a hard landing; it is rather on how
hard the hard landing recession will be. The factors that make the
recession inevitable include the nation's worst-ever housing
recession, which is still getting worse; a severe liquidity and credit
crunch in financial markets that is getting worse than when it started
last summer; high oil and gasoline prices; falling capital spending by
the corporate sector; a slackening labor market where few jobs are
being created and the unemployment rate is sharply up; and shopped-
out, savings-less and debt-burdened American consumers who - thanks to
falling home prices - can no longer use their homes as ATM machines to
allow them to spend more than their income. As private consumption in
the US is over 70% of GDP the US consumer now retrenching and cutting
spending ensures that a recession is now underway.

On top of this recession there are now serious risks of a systemic
financial crisis in the US as the financial losses are spreading from
subprime to near prime and prime mortgages, consumer debt (credit
cards, auto loans, student loans), commercial real estate loans,
leveraged loans and postponed/restructured/canceled LBO and, soon
enough, sharply rising default rates on corporate bonds that will lead
to a second round of large losses in credit default swaps. The total
of all of these financial losses could be above $1 trillion thus
triggering a massive credit crunch and a systemic financial sector
crisis." ( Nouriel Roubini Global EconoMonitor)

Decades of stagnant wages have left the American worker hamstrung and
unable to continue to account for 25% of global consumption.
Tightening credit and lack of personal savings have only added to his
problems. The American consumer is tapped-out. That means that
aggregate demand will fall dramatically across the world triggering
increases in unemployment, decreases in capital expansion, and
widespread slowdown in business activity. These are the beginnings of
a deflationary spiral that will wipe out trillions of dollars of
market capitalization in the real estate, equities and bonds markets.
Even gold and oil will retreat significantly. (as we saw in Monday's
results)

The present crisis is not the result of normal market forces, but
price fixing at the Federal Reserve and the financial engineering of
the main investment banks. If there had been sufficient regulation of
the activities of the Central Bank, so that interest rates had not
been kept below the rate of inflation for over 31 months straight
(under Greenspan) than the trillions of dollars in low-interest credit
would not have flooded the real estate market, igniting a frenzy of
speculative home-buying and creating the biggest housing bubble in US
history. Despite his feeble excuses, Greenspan's role in destroying
the US economy is no longer in doubt. Even the far-right Op-ed page of
the Wall Street Journal conceded Greenspan's culpability in Saturday's
edition. Here's what they said:

"Amid the daily market turmoil, and to help prevent a crash, it helps
to step back and remember how we got here. With the benefit of
hindsight, everyone can see that the U.S. economy built up an enormous
credit bubble that has now popped. Our own view -- which we warned
about going back to 2003 -- is that this bubble was created
principally by a Federal Reserve that kept real interest rates too low
for too long. In doing so the Fed created a subsidy for debt and a
commodity price spike."

Greenspan's low interest rates stimulated risky speculation that
resulted in humongous equity bubbles. That much is certain. The Fed's
"cheap money" policy generated artificial demand for housing which
drove prices to unsustainable levels. Now we can expect to see a real
estate crash unlike anything this country has experienced since the
1930s. That is the unavoidable outcome of Greenspan's "low interest"
fake prosperity.

Greenspan is not the only one responsible for the present calamity.
The financial markets have been reconfigured in a way that
accommodates all manner of corruption. The new model, "structured
finance", allows worthless assets to be disguised by fraudulent
ratings and sold to unsuspecting investors. At one time, this
assertion might have been dismissed as the ravings of a conspiracy
nut. But now we can find the similar accusations in the Wall Street
Journal and on CNBC.

Here's the Wall Street Journal explaining how the $800 billion US
current account deficit created a circular loop which channeled that
money back to the U.S.:

"That capital flow and debt subsidy, in turn, became fuel for smart
people in mortgage companies, investment banks and elsewhere to
exploit. In a sense they created a new financial system -- subprime
loans, SIVs, CDOs, etc. -- that is enormously efficient and brought
capital to new places. But thanks to low interest rates and human
enthusiasm, this debt spree also got carried away. "

"Human enthusiasm"? Is that a euphemism for insatiable greed?

The Wall Street Journal admits that a new "structured debt" market was
created to package dubious subprime liabilities (from "no doc", no
collateral , "bad credit" loan applicants) and sell them to hedge
funds, insurance companies and foreign banks as if they were precious
jewels. The WSJ avers that this is the way that "smart people"
"exploit" the opportunities from lavish "capital flows".

But was it "smart" or criminal?

Fortunately, that question was answered this week in an extraordinary
outburst on cable TV by market-insider and equities guru, Jim Cramer.
In Cramer's latest explosion, he details his own involvement in
creating and selling "structured products" which had never been stress-
tested in a slumping market. No one knew how badly they would perform.
Cramer admits that the motivation behind peddling this junk to
gullible investors was simply greed. Here's his statement:

"ITS ALL ABOUT THE COMMISSION"

(We used to say) "The commissions on structured products are so huge
let's JAM IT." (note "jam it" means foist it on the customer) It's all
about the 'commish'. The commission on structured product is GIGANTIC.
I could make a fortune 'JAMMING THAT CRUMMY PAPER' but I had a degree
of conscience---what a shocker!--We used to regulate people but they
decided during the Reagan revolution that that was bad. So we don't
regulate anyone anymore. But listen the commission in structured
product is so gigantic. (pause) First of all the customer has no idea
what the product really is because it is invented. Second, you assume
the customer is really stupid; like we used to say about the German
bankers, 'The German banks are just Bozos. Throw them anything.' Or
the Australians 'M O R O N S' Or the Florida Fund (ha ha ) "They're so
stupid let's give them Triple B (junk grade) Then we'd just laugh and
laugh at the customers and Jam them with the commission...That's what
happened; that's what happened....Remember, this is about commissions,
about how much money you can make by jamming stupid customers. I've
seen it all my life; you jam stupid customers." See the whole damning
confession on: http://www.cnbc.com/id/22706231

Trillions of dollars in structured investments (CDOs, MBSs, an ASCP)
have now clogged up the global economic system and are dragging the
world headlong into recession/depression. Cramer's confession is a
candid admission of criminal intent to defraud the public by selling
products which people--within the financial industry---KNEW were
falsely represented by their ratings. They sold them simply to fatten
their own paychecks and because there is no longer any regulatory
agency within the US government that curtails ilicit activity.

BOYCOTT US FINANCIAL PRODUCTS?

As the stock market continues its inexorable downward plunge, foreign
central banks and investors need to reevaluate the present situation
and aggressively pursue legal alternatives. They should initiate a
boycott of all US financial products until an appropriate settlement
for the hundreds of billions in losses due to the "structured finance"
swindle can be negotiated. That is the best way that they can serve
their own national interests and those of their people.

Deregulation has annihilated the credibility of US markets. There is
no oversight; it's the Wild West. The assets are falsely represented,
the ratings are meaningless, and there's a clear intention to deceive.
That means that the stewardship of the global economic system is no
longer in good hands. There needs to be a fundamental change. As the
"nightmare scenario" of global recession continues to unfold; we need
new leaders in Europe and Asia to step up and fill the void.
 
On Jan 22, 10:21�am, "wizardryOfOz...@msn.com"
<wizardryOfOz...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 8:13�am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Yup. �It's true. �Yesterday world markets were in "free fall"
> > according to CNN, and today India and much of the rest of the East is
> > off close to 10%!!!

>
> >http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19126.htm

>
> > IS THIS THE BIG ONE?
> > By Mike Whitney

>
> > 21/01/08 "ICH" --- - On Monday, fears of a US recession spilled over
> > into Asian markets sending stocks tumbling. Indexes were hammered
> > across the board in what turned out to be the worst day of trading
> > since 2001. In India, the Bombay Sensitive Index plunged 1408 points,
> > to 17,605. In China, the Shanghai Composite dropped 266 points (or
> > 5.5%) to 23,818, while in Japan, the Nikkei fell 535 points, to 13,325
> > points. The bloodletting stretched across the continent and into
> > Europe where shares nosedived by more than 4% by mid-morning "putting
> > them on track for their biggest one-day fall in more than four and a
> > half years."

>
> > The huge sell-off is a sign that global investors do not believe that
> > the Fed's rate cuts or President Bush's $150 billion "stimulus
> > package" can revive the flagging economy or breathe new life into the
> > over-extended US consumer. After Monday's sharp downturn, the
> > prospects for averting a deep and protracted recession are slim to
> > none.

>
> > Economics Professor Nouriel Roubini summed it up like this �nearly a
> > month ago:

>
> > "The United States has now effectively entered into a serious and
> > painful recession. The debate is not anymore on whether the economy
> > will experience a soft landing or a hard landing; it is rather on how
> > hard the hard landing recession will be. The factors that make the
> > recession inevitable include the nation's worst-ever housing
> > recession, which is still getting worse; a severe liquidity and credit
> > crunch in financial markets that is getting worse than when it started
> > last summer; high oil and gasoline prices; falling capital spending by
> > the corporate sector; a slackening labor market where few jobs are
> > being created and the unemployment rate is sharply up; and shopped-
> > out, savings-less and debt-burdened American consumers who - thanks to
> > falling home prices - can no longer use their homes as ATM machines to
> > allow them to spend more than their income. As private consumption in
> > the US is over 70% of GDP the US consumer now retrenching and cutting
> > spending ensures that a recession is now underway.

>
> > On top of this recession there are now serious risks of a systemic
> > financial crisis in the US as the financial losses are spreading from
> > subprime to near prime and prime mortgages, consumer debt (credit
> > cards, auto loans, student loans), commercial real estate loans,
> > leveraged loans and postponed/restructured/canceled LBO and, soon
> > enough, sharply rising default rates on corporate bonds that will lead
> > to a second round of large losses in credit default swaps. The total
> > of all of these financial losses could be above $1 trillion thus
> > triggering a massive credit crunch and a systemic financial sector
> > crisis." ( Nouriel Roubini Global EconoMonitor)

>
> > Decades of stagnant wages have left the American worker hamstrung and
> > unable to continue to account for 25% of global consumption.
> > Tightening credit and lack of personal savings have only added to his
> > problems. The American consumer is tapped-out. That means that
> > aggregate demand will fall dramatically across the world triggering
> > increases in unemployment, decreases in capital expansion, and
> > widespread slowdown in business activity. These are the beginnings of
> > a deflationary spiral that will wipe out trillions of dollars of
> > market capitalization in the real estate, equities and bonds markets.
> > Even gold and oil will retreat significantly. (as we saw in Monday's
> > results)

>
> > The present crisis is not the result of normal market forces, but
> > price fixing at the Federal Reserve and the financial engineering of
> > the main investment banks. If there had been sufficient regulation of
> > the activities of the Central Bank, so that interest rates had not
> > been kept below the rate of inflation for over 31 months straight
> > (under Greenspan) than the trillions of dollars in low-interest credit
> > would not have flooded the real estate market, igniting a frenzy of
> > speculative home-buying and creating the biggest housing bubble in US
> > history. Despite his feeble excuses, Greenspan's role in destroying
> > the US economy is no longer in doubt. Even the far-right Op-ed page of
> > the Wall Street Journal conceded Greenspan's culpability in Saturday's
> > edition. Here's what they said:

>
> > "Amid the daily market turmoil, and to help prevent a crash, it helps
> > to step back and remember how we got here. With the benefit of
> > hindsight, everyone can see that the U.S. economy built up an enormous
> > credit bubble that has now popped. Our own view -- which we warned
> > about going back to 2003 -- is that this bubble was created
> > principally by a Federal Reserve that kept real interest rates too low
> > for too long. In doing so the Fed created a subsidy for debt and a
> > commodity price spike."

>
> > � Greenspan's low interest rates stimulated risky speculation that
> > resulted in humongous equity bubbles. �That much is certain. The Fed's
> > "cheap money" policy generated artificial demand for housing which
> > drove prices to unsustainable levels. Now we can expect to see a real
> > estate crash unlike anything this country has experienced since the
> > 1930s. That is the unavoidable outcome of Greenspan's "low interest"
> > fake prosperity.

>
> > Greenspan is not the only one responsible for the present calamity.
> > The financial markets have been reconfigured in a way that
> > accommodates all manner of corruption. The new model, "structured
> > finance", allows worthless assets to be disguised by fraudulent
> > ratings and sold to unsuspecting investors. At one time, this
> > assertion might have been dismissed as the ravings of a conspiracy
> > nut. But now we can find the similar accusations in the Wall Street
> > Journal and on CNBC.

>
> > Here's the Wall Street Journal explaining how the $800 billion US
> > current account deficit created a circular loop which channeled that
> > money back to the U.S.:

>
> > �"That capital flow and debt subsidy, in turn, became fuel for smart
> > people in mortgage companies, investment banks and elsewhere to
> > exploit. In a sense they created a new financial system -- subprime
> > loans, SIVs, CDOs, etc. -- that is enormously efficient and brought
> > capital to new places. But thanks to low interest rates and human
> > enthusiasm, this debt spree also got carried away. "

>
> > "Human enthusiasm"? Is that a euphemism for insatiable greed?

>
> > The Wall Street Journal admits that a new "structured debt" market was
> > created to package dubious subprime liabilities (from "no doc", no
> > collateral , "bad credit" loan applicants) and sell them to hedge
> > funds, insurance companies and foreign banks as if they were precious
> > jewels. The WSJ avers that this is the way that "smart people"
> > "exploit" the opportunities from lavish "capital flows".

>
> > But was it "smart" or criminal?

>
> > Fortunately, that question was answered this week in an extraordinary
> > outburst on cable TV by market-insider and equities guru, Jim Cramer.
> > In Cramer's latest explosion, he details his own involvement in
> > creating and selling "structured products" which had never been stress-
> > tested in a slumping market. No one knew how badly they would perform.
> > Cramer admits that the motivation behind peddling this junk to
> > gullible investors was simply greed. Here's his statement:

>
> > "ITS ALL ABOUT THE COMMISSION"

>
> > (We used to say) "The commissions on structured products are so huge
> > let's JAM IT." (note "jam it" means foist it on the customer) It's all
> > about the 'commish'. The commission on structured product is GIGANTIC.
> > I could make a fortune 'JAMMING THAT CRUMMY PAPER' but I had a degree
> > of conscience---what a shocker!--We used to regulate people but they
> > decided during the Reagan revolution that that was bad. So we don't
> > regulate anyone anymore. But listen the commission in structured
> > product is so gigantic. (pause) First of all the customer has no idea
> > what the product really is because it is invented. Second, you assume
> > the customer is really stupid; like we used to say about the German
> > bankers, 'The German banks are just Bozos. Throw them anything.' Or
> > the Australians 'M O R O N S' Or the Florida Fund (ha ha ) "They're so
> > stupid let's give them Triple B (junk grade) Then we'd just laugh and
> > laugh at the customers and Jam them with the commission...That's what
> > happened; that's what happened....Remember, this is about commissions,
> > about how much money you can make by jamming stupid customers. I've
> > seen it all my life; you jam stupid customers." See the whole damning
> > confession on:http://www.cnbc.com/id/22706231

>
> > Trillions of dollars in structured investments (CDOs, MBSs, an ASCP)
> > have now clogged up the global economic system and are dragging the
> > world headlong into recession/depression. Cramer's confession is a
> > candid admission of criminal intent to defraud the public by selling
> > products which people--within the financial industry---KNEW were
> > falsely represented by their ratings. They sold them simply to fatten
> > their own paychecks and because there is no longer any regulatory
> > agency within the US government that curtails ilicit activity.

>
> > BOYCOTT US FINANCIAL PRODUCTS?

>
> > As the stock market continues its inexorable downward plunge, foreign
> > central banks and investors need to reevaluate the present situation
> > and aggressively pursue legal alternatives. They should initiate a
> > boycott of all US financial products until an appropriate settlement
> > for the hundreds of billions in losses due to the "structured finance"
> > swindle can be negotiated. That is the best way that they can serve
> > their own national interests and those of their people.

>
> > Deregulation has annihilated the credibility of US markets. There is
> > no oversight; it's the Wild West. �The assets are falsely represented,
> > the ratings are meaningless, and there's a clear intention to deceive.
> > That means that the stewardship of the global economic system is no
> > longer in good hands. There needs to be a fundamental change. As the
> > "nightmare scenario" of global recession continues to unfold; we need
> > new leaders in Europe and Asia to step up and fill the void.

>
> Oz:----
> Why should you be concerned, Nemo? �You haven't got anything to lose
> anyway. �Oh, did you ship your superduper motorhome over to England?
> Are their streets wide enough fot it? �Do you fear that your welfare
> checks will stop if the economy gets bad enough? �Have you converted
> to Islam yet? �Do you approve of the taste of the imam's male
> appendage?


Lay of the BONG, OzTardO. And quit projecting your gay fantasies.
<snicker>
 
What is it with you assholes and the dick sucking thing???


<wizardryOfOz300@msn.com> wrote in message
news:0b721b34-81fd-43c9-9a82-15516cea6da7@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 22, 8:13 am, ChasNemo <chasn...@aol.com> wrote:
> Yup. It's true. Yesterday world markets were in "free fall"
> according to CNN, and today India and much of the rest of the East is
> off close to 10%!!!
>
> http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19126.htm
>
> IS THIS THE BIG ONE?
> By Mike Whitney
>
> 21/01/08 "ICH" --- - On Monday, fears of a US recession spilled over
> into Asian markets sending stocks tumbling. Indexes were hammered
> across the board in what turned out to be the worst day of trading
> since 2001. In India, the Bombay Sensitive Index plunged 1408 points,
> to 17,605. In China, the Shanghai Composite dropped 266 points (or
> 5.5%) to 23,818, while in Japan, the Nikkei fell 535 points, to 13,325
> points. The bloodletting stretched across the continent and into
> Europe where shares nosedived by more than 4% by mid-morning "putting
> them on track for their biggest one-day fall in more than four and a
> half years."
>
> The huge sell-off is a sign that global investors do not believe that
> the Fed's rate cuts or President Bush's $150 billion "stimulus
> package" can revive the flagging economy or breathe new life into the
> over-extended US consumer. After Monday's sharp downturn, the
> prospects for averting a deep and protracted recession are slim to
> none.
>
> Economics Professor Nouriel Roubini summed it up like this nearly a
> month ago:
>
> "The United States has now effectively entered into a serious and
> painful recession. The debate is not anymore on whether the economy
> will experience a soft landing or a hard landing; it is rather on how
> hard the hard landing recession will be. The factors that make the
> recession inevitable include the nation's worst-ever housing
> recession, which is still getting worse; a severe liquidity and credit
> crunch in financial markets that is getting worse than when it started
> last summer; high oil and gasoline prices; falling capital spending by
> the corporate sector; a slackening labor market where few jobs are
> being created and the unemployment rate is sharply up; and shopped-
> out, savings-less and debt-burdened American consumers who - thanks to
> falling home prices - can no longer use their homes as ATM machines to
> allow them to spend more than their income. As private consumption in
> the US is over 70% of GDP the US consumer now retrenching and cutting
> spending ensures that a recession is now underway.
>
> On top of this recession there are now serious risks of a systemic
> financial crisis in the US as the financial losses are spreading from
> subprime to near prime and prime mortgages, consumer debt (credit
> cards, auto loans, student loans), commercial real estate loans,
> leveraged loans and postponed/restructured/canceled LBO and, soon
> enough, sharply rising default rates on corporate bonds that will lead
> to a second round of large losses in credit default swaps. The total
> of all of these financial losses could be above $1 trillion thus
> triggering a massive credit crunch and a systemic financial sector
> crisis." ( Nouriel Roubini Global EconoMonitor)
>
> Decades of stagnant wages have left the American worker hamstrung and
> unable to continue to account for 25% of global consumption.
> Tightening credit and lack of personal savings have only added to his
> problems. The American consumer is tapped-out. That means that
> aggregate demand will fall dramatically across the world triggering
> increases in unemployment, decreases in capital expansion, and
> widespread slowdown in business activity. These are the beginnings of
> a deflationary spiral that will wipe out trillions of dollars of
> market capitalization in the real estate, equities and bonds markets.
> Even gold and oil will retreat significantly. (as we saw in Monday's
> results)
>
> The present crisis is not the result of normal market forces, but
> price fixing at the Federal Reserve and the financial engineering of
> the main investment banks. If there had been sufficient regulation of
> the activities of the Central Bank, so that interest rates had not
> been kept below the rate of inflation for over 31 months straight
> (under Greenspan) than the trillions of dollars in low-interest credit
> would not have flooded the real estate market, igniting a frenzy of
> speculative home-buying and creating the biggest housing bubble in US
> history. Despite his feeble excuses, Greenspan's role in destroying
> the US economy is no longer in doubt. Even the far-right Op-ed page of
> the Wall Street Journal conceded Greenspan's culpability in Saturday's
> edition. Here's what they said:
>
> "Amid the daily market turmoil, and to help prevent a crash, it helps
> to step back and remember how we got here. With the benefit of
> hindsight, everyone can see that the U.S. economy built up an enormous
> credit bubble that has now popped. Our own view -- which we warned
> about going back to 2003 -- is that this bubble was created
> principally by a Federal Reserve that kept real interest rates too low
> for too long. In doing so the Fed created a subsidy for debt and a
> commodity price spike."
>
> Greenspan's low interest rates stimulated risky speculation that
> resulted in humongous equity bubbles. That much is certain. The Fed's
> "cheap money" policy generated artificial demand for housing which
> drove prices to unsustainable levels. Now we can expect to see a real
> estate crash unlike anything this country has experienced since the
> 1930s. That is the unavoidable outcome of Greenspan's "low interest"
> fake prosperity.
>
> Greenspan is not the only one responsible for the present calamity.
> The financial markets have been reconfigured in a way that
> accommodates all manner of corruption. The new model, "structured
> finance", allows worthless assets to be disguised by fraudulent
> ratings and sold to unsuspecting investors. At one time, this
> assertion might have been dismissed as the ravings of a conspiracy
> nut. But now we can find the similar accusations in the Wall Street
> Journal and on CNBC.
>
> Here's the Wall Street Journal explaining how the $800 billion US
> current account deficit created a circular loop which channeled that
> money back to the U.S.:
>
> "That capital flow and debt subsidy, in turn, became fuel for smart
> people in mortgage companies, investment banks and elsewhere to
> exploit. In a sense they created a new financial system -- subprime
> loans, SIVs, CDOs, etc. -- that is enormously efficient and brought
> capital to new places. But thanks to low interest rates and human
> enthusiasm, this debt spree also got carried away. "
>
> "Human enthusiasm"? Is that a euphemism for insatiable greed?
>
> The Wall Street Journal admits that a new "structured debt" market was
> created to package dubious subprime liabilities (from "no doc", no
> collateral , "bad credit" loan applicants) and sell them to hedge
> funds, insurance companies and foreign banks as if they were precious
> jewels. The WSJ avers that this is the way that "smart people"
> "exploit" the opportunities from lavish "capital flows".
>
> But was it "smart" or criminal?
>
> Fortunately, that question was answered this week in an extraordinary
> outburst on cable TV by market-insider and equities guru, Jim Cramer.
> In Cramer's latest explosion, he details his own involvement in
> creating and selling "structured products" which had never been stress-
> tested in a slumping market. No one knew how badly they would perform.
> Cramer admits that the motivation behind peddling this junk to
> gullible investors was simply greed. Here's his statement:
>
> "ITS ALL ABOUT THE COMMISSION"
>
> (We used to say) "The commissions on structured products are so huge
> let's JAM IT." (note "jam it" means foist it on the customer) It's all
> about the 'commish'. The commission on structured product is GIGANTIC.
> I could make a fortune 'JAMMING THAT CRUMMY PAPER' but I had a degree
> of conscience---what a shocker!--We used to regulate people but they
> decided during the Reagan revolution that that was bad. So we don't
> regulate anyone anymore. But listen the commission in structured
> product is so gigantic. (pause) First of all the customer has no idea
> what the product really is because it is invented. Second, you assume
> the customer is really stupid; like we used to say about the German
> bankers, 'The German banks are just Bozos. Throw them anything.' Or
> the Australians 'M O R O N S' Or the Florida Fund (ha ha ) "They're so
> stupid let's give them Triple B (junk grade) Then we'd just laugh and
> laugh at the customers and Jam them with the commission...That's what
> happened; that's what happened....Remember, this is about commissions,
> about how much money you can make by jamming stupid customers. I've
> seen it all my life; you jam stupid customers." See the whole damning
> confession on:http://www.cnbc.com/id/22706231
>
> Trillions of dollars in structured investments (CDOs, MBSs, an ASCP)
> have now clogged up the global economic system and are dragging the
> world headlong into recession/depression. Cramer's confession is a
> candid admission of criminal intent to defraud the public by selling
> products which people--within the financial industry---KNEW were
> falsely represented by their ratings. They sold them simply to fatten
> their own paychecks and because there is no longer any regulatory
> agency within the US government that curtails ilicit activity.
>
> BOYCOTT US FINANCIAL PRODUCTS?
>
> As the stock market continues its inexorable downward plunge, foreign
> central banks and investors need to reevaluate the present situation
> and aggressively pursue legal alternatives. They should initiate a
> boycott of all US financial products until an appropriate settlement
> for the hundreds of billions in losses due to the "structured finance"
> swindle can be negotiated. That is the best way that they can serve
> their own national interests and those of their people.
>
> Deregulation has annihilated the credibility of US markets. There is
> no oversight; it's the Wild West. The assets are falsely represented,
> the ratings are meaningless, and there's a clear intention to deceive.
> That means that the stewardship of the global economic system is no
> longer in good hands. There needs to be a fundamental change. As the
> "nightmare scenario" of global recession continues to unfold; we need
> new leaders in Europe and Asia to step up and fill the void.


Oz:----
Why should you be concerned, Nemo? You haven't got anything to lose
anyway. Oh, did you ship your superduper motorhome over to England?
Are their streets wide enough fot it? Do you fear that your welfare
checks will stop if the economy gets bad enough? Have you converted
to Islam yet? Do you approve of the taste of the imam's male
appendage?
 
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