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The Audacity of Rhetoric

 

By Thomas Sowell

 

 

It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

into

knots trying to evade the obvious.

 

 

Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

what

his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said. In their version of events, Barack

Obama just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time -- and

a

bunch of mean-spirited people are trying to make something out of it.

 

 

It makes a good story, but it won't stand up under scrutiny.

 

 

Barack Obama's own account of his life shows that he consciously

sought out people on the far left fringe. In college, "I chose my

friends carefully," he said in his first book, "Dreams From My

Father."

 

 

These friends included "Marxist professors and structural feminists

and punk rock performance poets" -- in Obama's own words -- as well

as

the "more politically active black students." He later visited a

former member of the terrorist Weatherman underground, who endorsed

him when he ran for state senator.

 

 

Obama didn't just happen to encounter Jeremiah Wright, who just

happened to say some way out things. Jeremiah Wright is in the same

mold as the kinds of people Barack Obama began seeking out in college

-- members of the left, anti-American counter-culture.

 

 

In Shelby Steele's brilliantly insightful book about Barack Obama --

"A

Bound Man" -- it is painfully clear that Obama was one of those

people

seeking a racial identity that he had never really experienced in

growing up in a white world. He was trying to become a convert to

blackness, as it were -- and, like many converts, he went overboard.

 

 

Nor has Obama changed in recent years. His voting record in the U.S.

Senate is the furthest left of any Senator. There is a remarkable

consistency in what Barack Obama has done over the years, despite

inconsistencies in what he says.

 

 

The irony is that Obama's sudden rise politically to the level of

being the leading contender for his party's presidential nomination

has required him to project an entirely different persona, that of a

post-racial leader who can heal divisiveness and bring us all

together.

 

 

The ease with which he has accomplished this chameleon-like change,

and entranced both white and black Democrats, is a tribute to the

man's talent and a warning about his reliability.

 

 

There is no evidence that Obama ever sought to educate himself on the

views of people on the other end of the political spectrum, much less

reach out to them. He reached out from the left to the far left.

That's bringing us all together?

 

 

Is "divisiveness" defined as disagreeing with the agenda of the left?

Who on the left was ever called divisive by Obama before that became

politically necessary in order to respond to revelations about

Jeremiah Wright?

 

 

One sign of Obama's verbal virtuosity was his equating a passing

comment by his grandmother -- "a typical white person," he says --

with

an organized campaign of public vilification of America in general

and

white America in particular, by Jeremiah Wright.

 

 

Since all things are the same, except for the differences, and

different except for the similarities, it is always possible to make

things look similar verbally, however different they are in the real

world.

 

 

Among the many desperate gambits by defenders of Senator Obama and

Jeremiah Wright is to say that Wright's words have a "resonance" in

the black community.

 

 

There was a time when the Ku Klux Klan's words had a resonance among

whites, not only in the South but in other states. Some people joined

the KKK in order to advance their political careers. Did that make it

OK? Is it all just a matter of whose ox is gored?

 

 

While many whites may be annoyed by Jeremiah Wright's words, a year

from now most of them will probably have forgotten about him. But

many

blacks who absorb his toxic message can still be paying for it, big-

time, for decades to come.

 

 

Why should young blacks be expected to work to meet educational

standards, or even behavioral standards, if they believe the message

that all their problems are caused by whites, that the deck is

stacked

against them? That is ultimately a message of hopelessness, however

much audacity it may have.

 

 

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"Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On Mar 27, 10:21 am, Sally <gurfin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is painful to watch Thomas Sowell tomming for the Jewish World

> Review.

 

 

 

Translation: His article makes a lot of sense and you can't refute

it.

 

LOL Just because Uncle Tom Sowell makes sense to you doesn't mean he does to

thinking people.

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On Mar 27, 1:14 pm, Greg Brown <gregvbr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The Audacity of Rhetoric

>

> By Thomas Sowell

>

> It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

> into

> knots trying to evade the obvious.

>

> Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

> what

> his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said. In their version of events, Barack

> Obama just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time -- and

> a

> bunch of mean-spirited people are trying to make something out of it.

>

> It makes a good story, but it won't stand up under scrutiny.

>

> Barack Obama's own account of his life shows that he consciously

> sought out people on the far left fringe. In college, "I chose my

> friends carefully," he said in his first book, "Dreams From My

> Father."

>

> These friends included "Marxist professors and structural feminists

> and punk rock performance poets" -- in Obama's own words -- as well

> as

> the "more politically active black students." He later visited a

> former member of the terrorist Weatherman underground, who endorsed

> him when he ran for state senator.

>

> Obama didn't just happen to encounter Jeremiah Wright, who just

> happened to say some way out things. Jeremiah Wright is in the same

> mold as the kinds of people Barack Obama began seeking out in college

> -- members of the left, anti-American counter-culture.

>

> In Shelby Steele's brilliantly insightful book about Barack Obama --

> "A

> Bound Man" -- it is painfully clear that Obama was one of those

> people

> seeking a racial identity that he had never really experienced in

> growing up in a white world. He was trying to become a convert to

> blackness, as it were -- and, like many converts, he went overboard.

>

> Nor has Obama changed in recent years. His voting record in the U.S.

> Senate is the furthest left of any Senator. There is a remarkable

> consistency in what Barack Obama has done over the years, despite

> inconsistencies in what he says.

>

> The irony is that Obama's sudden rise politically to the level of

> being the leading contender for his party's presidential nomination

> has required him to project an entirely different persona, that of a

> post-racial leader who can heal divisiveness and bring us all

> together.

>

> The ease with which he has accomplished this chameleon-like change,

> and entranced both white and black Democrats, is a tribute to the

> man's talent and a warning about his reliability.

>

> There is no evidence that Obama ever sought to educate himself on the

> views of people on the other end of the political spectrum, much less

> reach out to them. He reached out from the left to the far left.

> That's bringing us all together?

>

> Is "divisiveness" defined as disagreeing with the agenda of the left?

> Who on the left was ever called divisive by Obama before that became

> politically necessary in order to respond to revelations about

> Jeremiah Wright?

>

> One sign of Obama's verbal virtuosity was his equating a passing

> comment by his grandmother -- "a typical white person," he says --

> with

> an organized campaign of public vilification of America in general

> and

> white America in particular, by Jeremiah Wright.

>

> Since all things are the same, except for the differences, and

> different except for the similarities, it is always possible to make

> things look similar verbally, however different they are in the real

> world.

>

> Among the many desperate gambits by defenders of Senator Obama and

> Jeremiah Wright is to say that Wright's words have a "resonance" in

> the black community.

>

> There was a time when the Ku Klux Klan's words had a resonance among

> whites, not only in the South but in other states. Some people joined

> the KKK in order to advance their political careers. Did that make it

> OK? Is it all just a matter of whose ox is gored?

>

> While many whites may be annoyed by Jeremiah Wright's words, a year

> from now most of them will probably have forgotten about him. But

> many

> blacks who absorb his toxic message can still be paying for it, big-

> time, for decades to come.

>

> Why should young blacks be expected to work to meet educational

> standards, or even behavioral standards, if they believe the message

> that all their problems are caused by whites, that the deck is

> stacked

> against them? That is ultimately a message of hopelessness, however

> much audacity it may have.

>

> http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell032608.php3

 

 

 

 

It is painful to watch these people who think Barack is the latest

savior..and when they

find out what he's really like..Senator BHO is capitalizing on peoples

distrust

and dislike of whites to get the nomination..He will have a lot more

work

to do to win the election! You can't pull this sort of stunt twice

and expect

to win.

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Greg Brown wrote:

> The Audacity of Rhetoric

>

> By Thomas Sowell

>

>

> It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

> into

> knots trying to evade the obvious.

>

>

> Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

> what

> his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

 

So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

than good. ROTFL

 

 

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"Sally" <gurfinkle@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> It is painful to watch Thomas Sowell tomming for the Jewish World

> Review.

> =======

 

Its funny to watch liberals snip out all the facts presented in the article

that they have no answer for . Just ObamaBots in lockstep with their racist

leader.

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>> Why should young blacks be expected to work to meet educational

>> standards, or even behavioral standards, if they believe the

>> message that all their problems are caused by whites, that the

>> deck is stacked

>> against them? That is ultimately a message of hopelessness,

>> however much audacity it may have.

> It is painful to watch these people who think Barack is the latest

> savior..and when they

> find out what he's really like..Senator BHO is capitalizing on

> peoples distrust

> and dislike of whites to get the nomination..He will have a lot

> more work

> to do to win the election! You can't pull this sort of stunt

> twice and expect

> to win.

 

The Karl Rove zombies are getting busy.

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itsall_bull wrote:

> On Mar 27, 12:34 pm, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>> Greg Brown wrote:

>>> The Audacity of Rhetoric

>>> By Thomas Sowell

>>> It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

>>> into

>>> knots trying to evade the obvious.

>>> Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

>>> what

>>> his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

>> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

>> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

>> than good. ROTFL

>>

>> --

>> Wolfie

>

> Well Wolfie, I take it you agree with Black Liberation Theology,

> Jeremiah Wrong and his toady Obama.

 

LOL! Thats like saying you're responsible for everything your

cousin says!!! What kind of ignorant, gullible morons do

you think the American people are to be taken in by

this disingenuous nonsense???

 

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HarryNadds wrote:

> On Mar 27, 2:29 pm, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>> itsall_bull wrote:

>>> On Mar 27, 12:34 pm, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>>>> Greg Brown wrote:

>>>>> The Audacity of Rhetoric

>>>>> By Thomas Sowell

>>>>> It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

>>>>> into

>>>>> knots trying to evade the obvious.

>>>>> Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

>>>>> what

>>>>> his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

>>>> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

>>>> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

>>>> than good. ROTFL

>>>> --

>>>> Wolfie

>>> Well Wolfie, I take it you agree with Black Liberation Theology,

>>> Jeremiah Wrong and his toady Obama.

>> LOL! Thats like saying you're responsible for everything your

>> cousin says!!! What kind of ignorant, gullible morons do

>> you think the American people are to be taken in by

>> this disingenuous nonsense???

>>

>> --

>> Wolfie- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

> You can't chose your cousins but you can damned sure choose your

> precher.If he did'nt agree with the racist reverand he would'nt have

> hung around for 20 years

 

Bottom line. You can keep this story front and center for

6 months. Its having less effect now, and everyone has seen through

it and is bored with it.

 

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HarryNadds wrote:

> On Mar 27, 3:05 pm, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>> HarryNadds wrote:

>>> On Mar 27, 2:29 pm, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>>>> itsall_bull wrote:

>>>>> On Mar 27, 12:34 pm, Wolfie <Wolfie@FrenchGirl'sBoy.org> wrote:

>>>>>> Greg Brown wrote:

>>>>>>> The Audacity of Rhetoric

>>>>>>> By Thomas Sowell

>>>>>>> It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

>>>>>>> into

>>>>>>> knots trying to evade the obvious.

>>>>>>> Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

>>>>>>> what

>>>>>>> his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

>>>>>> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

>>>>>> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

>>>>>> than good. ROTFL

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Wolfie

>>>>> Well Wolfie, I take it you agree with Black Liberation Theology,

>>>>> Jeremiah Wrong and his toady Obama.

>>>> LOL! Thats like saying you're responsible for everything your

>>>> cousin says!!! What kind of ignorant, gullible morons do

>>>> you think the American people are to be taken in by

>>>> this disingenuous nonsense???

>>>> --

>>>> Wolfie- Hide quoted text -

>>>> - Show quoted text -

>>> You can't chose your cousins but you can damned sure choose your

>>> precher.If he did'nt agree with the racist reverand he would'nt have

>>> hung around for 20 years

>> Bottom line. You can keep this story front and center for

>> 6 months. Its having less effect now, and everyone has seen through

>> it and is bored with it.

>>

>> --

>> Wolfie- Hide quoted text -

>>

>> - Show quoted text -

>

> Wrong!! EVERYBODY'S not bored with it.It won't be swept under the rug

> no matter how hard you Obamanistas try.It's a very good indication of

> who Hussein REALLY is.More will come out.He's as good as done.Stick a

> fork in the boy.

 

ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Sally wrote:

>

> It is painful to watch Thomas Sowell tomming for the Jewish World

> Review.

>

Really? So it's the only right thing to do for a black man not to

like Jews? Is that it?

 

 

 

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Sal Video wrote:

>

> "Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:6a62173f-994d-4ee1-80b6-8bdfdd36f653@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> On Mar 27, 10:21 am, Sally <gurfin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > It is painful to watch Thomas Sowell tomming for the Jewish World

> > Review.

>

> Translation: His article makes a lot of sense and you can't refute

> it.

>

> LOL Just because Uncle Tom Sowell makes sense to you doesn't mean he does to

> thinking people.

>

Instead of cutting every single word that Sowell wrote, why not

keep some of it and refute it? Of course the answer is because you

cannot, isn't it?

 

 

 

--

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spaghetti. Is that funny?"

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laugh."

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Wolfie wrote:

>

> Greg Brown wrote:

> > The Audacity of Rhetoric

> >

> > By Thomas Sowell

> >

> >

> > It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

> > into

> > knots trying to evade the obvious.

> >

> >

> > Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

> > what

> > his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

>

> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

> than good. ROTFL

>

Noting that Oblamo was involved with an anti-American preacher by

choice might resonate against those who point it out in the Dem

primaries, but I wonder about the general election.

 

--

"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like

spaghetti. Is that funny?"

"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people

laugh."

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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:20:55 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique

allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"

<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

>

>Wolfie wrote:

>>

>> Greg Brown wrote:

>> > The Audacity of Rhetoric

>> >

>> > By Thomas Sowell

>> >

>> >

>> > It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

>> > into

>> > knots trying to evade the obvious.

>> >

>> >

>> > Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

>> > what

>> > his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

>>

>> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

>> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

>> than good. ROTFL

>>

>Noting that Oblamo was involved with an anti-American preacher by

>choice might resonate against those who point it out in the Dem

>primaries, but I wonder about the general election.

 

 

According to Gallup ... over the past week or so since

the preacher story hit the airwaves ... HRCs approval

rating went DOWN and Obamas went UP.

 

Seems that nobody CARES about Obamas 60s-leftover

preacher and his almost quaintly-amusing rantings.

They DO care about HRC being "mean" to Obama however ...

 

And that's the way it is.

 

I saw a perfect political cartoon today - showing

the "Hillary Clinton Sniper Rifle". The picture

was of a scoped AK-47 with the barrel bent into

a "U" shape, pointing right back towards the

sniper.

 

That Obama would gain and HRC would lose over the

preacher story may not make SENSE ... but elections

aren't so much about "sense" and logic as they are

about emotions and perceptions. Obama just plain

comes across as a really nice, earnest guy and

ANYBODY who says different is obviously a cruel

lying scumbag.

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In article <47ed50f5.6276125@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net

says...

>

>

>On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:20:55 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique

>allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"

><tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>Wolfie wrote:

>>>

>>> Greg Brown wrote:

>>> > The Audacity of Rhetoric

>>> >

>>> > By Thomas Sowell

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

>>> > into

>>> > knots trying to evade the obvious.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

>>> > what

>>> > his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

>>>

>>> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

>>> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

>>> than good. ROTFL

>>>

>>Noting that Oblamo was involved with an anti-American preacher by

>>choice might resonate against those who point it out in the Dem

>>primaries, but I wonder about the general election.

>

>

> According to Gallup ... over the past week or so since

> the preacher story hit the airwaves ... HRCs approval

> rating went DOWN and Obamas went UP.

>

> Seems that nobody CARES about Obamas 60s-leftover

> preacher and his almost quaintly-amusing rantings.

> They DO care about HRC being "mean" to Obama however ...

>

> And that's the way it is.

>

> I saw a perfect political cartoon today - showing

> the "Hillary Clinton Sniper Rifle". The picture

> was of a scoped AK-47 with the barrel bent into

> a "U" shape, pointing right back towards the

> sniper.

>

> That Obama would gain and HRC would lose over the

> preacher story may not make SENSE ... but elections

> aren't so much about "sense" and logic as they are

> about emotions and perceptions. Obama just plain

> comes across as a really nice, earnest guy and

> ANYBODY who says different is obviously a cruel

> lying scumbag.

>

Intrade says ther same. Obama is at over 80% and Clinton less than 20%.

The whole Wright thing was a blip.

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Gogarty wrote:

>

> In article <47ed50f5.6276125@news.east.earthlink.net>, bw@barrk.net

> says...

> >

> >

> >On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:20:55 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique

> >allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"

> ><tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >>Wolfie wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Greg Brown wrote:

> >>> > The Audacity of Rhetoric

> >>> >

> >>> > By Thomas Sowell

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > It is painful to watch defenders of Barack Obama tying themselves

> >>> > into

> >>> > knots trying to evade the obvious.

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > Some are saying that Senator Obama cannot be held responsible for

> >>> > what

> >>> > his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, said.

> >>>

> >>> So pathetic that you're still carrying on about this while

> >>> the polls show its done all the anti-Obama people more harm

> >>> than good. ROTFL

> >>>

> >>Noting that Oblamo was involved with an anti-American preacher by

> >>choice might resonate against those who point it out in the Dem

> >>primaries, but I wonder about the general election.

> >

> >

> > According to Gallup ... over the past week or so since

> > the preacher story hit the airwaves ... HRCs approval

> > rating went DOWN and Obamas went UP.

> >

> > Seems that nobody CARES about Obamas 60s-leftover

> > preacher and his almost quaintly-amusing rantings.

> > They DO care about HRC being "mean" to Obama however ...

> >

> > And that's the way it is.

> >

> > I saw a perfect political cartoon today - showing

> > the "Hillary Clinton Sniper Rifle". The picture

> > was of a scoped AK-47 with the barrel bent into

> > a "U" shape, pointing right back towards the

> > sniper.

> >

> > That Obama would gain and HRC would lose over the

> > preacher story may not make SENSE ... but elections

> > aren't so much about "sense" and logic as they are

> > about emotions and perceptions. Obama just plain

> > comes across as a really nice, earnest guy and

> > ANYBODY who says different is obviously a cruel

> > lying scumbag.

> >

> Intrade says ther same. Obama is at over 80% and Clinton less than 20%.

> The whole Wright thing was a blip.

>

That alone doesn't seem to be enough to prevent him from the

nomination. The issue for Democrats though seems the general

election.

 

 

 

--

"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like

spaghetti. Is that funny?"

"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people

laugh."

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