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Even Ariel Sharon admitted that Jews control America!

Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio
(in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, Shimon Peres warned Ariel Sharon Wednesday
that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire
with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the
US against us."

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying
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"Every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and
will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry
about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control
America, and the Americans know it."

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against
saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public
relations disaster."
IAP News

Jimmy Carter said it too!

"The Israeli lobby is so powerful that no man could become president
without gaining their support." - Former US President Jimmy Carter
after leaving office.

George H.W. Bush quote!

"There are powerful forces out there." - Former US President George
H.W. Bush, referring to the power of the Israel lobby during a heated
foreign aid dispute after the first Gulf War. Israel demanded
billions of US taxpayer dollars to expand illegal Jewish settlements
on the West Bank, and Bush refused. This led to a dispute with the
Israeli lobby, which then helped elect Bill Clinton as president.

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Below is a PARTIAL list of Jews who dominate the United States media,
and who control what we see, read, and think. The overwhelming
majority of those listed below cheerleaded the illegal war on Iraq,
and many, but not all, are now actively promoting a new war against
Iran.
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RUPERT MURDOCH, pro-war, pro-Israel owner of Fox TV, New York Post,
London Times, News of the World, The Wall Street Journal (raised by
Jewish Zionist mother)
MATT DRUDGE, author and owner of The Drudge Report, and constant
beater of the drums for war, and all for Israel.
WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC) William Kristol is the top
voice of the pro-war, pro-Israel "Neoconservative" cult that now
controls the Republican Party. Ironically, many if not most of the
Jewish Neocons started their political lives as Marxists.
DICK MORRIS, Fox News guest commentator and former Clinton aid,
constant war hawk.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN correspondent and former lobbyist for the Israel
America Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). War hawk, promoter of
Israeli interests first and last.
ANDREA MITCHELL, pro-war NBC News correspondent, and wife of former
Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, who also is Jewish. Andrea
Mitchell beat the drums of war, supporting and promoting the Iraq war
and slanting news in favor of Israel whenever she gets the
opportunity.
DEAN REYNOLDS, pro-war, pro-Israel ABC News correspondent who once
gave an editorial on ABC Nightly News about why Palestinians "are so
easy to hate." Can you imagine any journalist getting away with an on-
air editorial on why Jews are so easy to hate?
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and
chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-
Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on
Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by
Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media
giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over
the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
"mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, former syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
Producers, appointed by Clinton.
ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on
domestic terrorism.
DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times
network of "alternative weeklies."
DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle
East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal
Entertainment
KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which
represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer
and Bill O'Reilly.
TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL-
TimeWarner
JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
HOWARD STERN, pro-war, pro-Israel radio "shock jock."
HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San
Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets. His real name is Michael Alan
Weiner.
MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has
Israeli flag on his home page. BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think
Tank.
ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker
NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications,
includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group,
includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement;
American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more
than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television
programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated
Press.
PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
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Below is a partial list of major Zionist organizations, that work to
control governments all over the world.
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Israel America Public Affairs Commitee (AIPAC) - AIPAC runs Congress
and controls the White House.
American Zionist Movement
Zionist Organization of America
World Zionist Org
Hadassah
Republican Jewish Coalition
NACPAC
Protect Our Heritage PAC
Israel Unity Coalition
Jabotinsky Institute
Israel Action
Young Judea
World Zionist Organization
FLAME
Shuva
Likud of Holland
Shalem Center
Hasbara US
Zionist Federation of Australia
Israel Hasbara Committee
Ahavat Israel
Project Shofar
TruePeace
Professors For A Strong Israel
One Jerusalem
Tagar Jewish Activists
Betar
Jews For Truth Now
Olam For Israel
VIPAC
Temple Institute
Temple Mount Faithful
Temple Mount Org
Destruction In The Temple Mount
American Jewish Council
Kadam
Rosenblit
Jewish Legion
Elad Foundation
Crisis Jerusalem
Save Israel
The Zionist Organization of America
Likud (Hebrew)
Herut
Manhigut Yehudit
Netanyahu.org
Yisrael Beiteinu (Hebrew)
Moledet (Hebrew)
Tekuma (Hebrew)
ZoArtzeinu
World Mizrachi Movement
Women In Green
Women In Green (US)
Americans For A Safe Israel
American Friends Of Likud
Likud Supporters (Hebrew)
Religious Zionists Of America
American Zionist Movement
Amit Baltimore/Washington
Association of Reform Zionists of America
B'nei Akiva Galil of Greater Washington
Emunah of America
Habonim Dror Youth Movement
Young Judaea Israel Programs & Summer Camps
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Here is a news story written by Jews and published in a Jewish
newspaper in Israel about how Jews started the Iraq war.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/...&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

White man's burden

By Ari Shavit

The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals,
most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the
course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and
Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible. But another journalist, Thomas
Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical

1. The doctrine

WASHINGTON - At the conclusion of its second week, the war to liberate
Iraq wasn't looking good. Not even in Washington. The assumption of a
swift collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime had itself collapsed. The
presupposition that the Iraqi dictatorship would crumble as soon as
mighty America entered the country proved unfounded. The Shi'ites
didn't rise up, the Sunnis fought fiercely. Iraqi guerrilla warfare
found the American generals unprepared and endangered their
overextended supply lines. Nevertheless, 70 percent of the American
people continued to support the war; 60 percent thought victory was
certain; 74 percent expressed confidence in President George W. Bush.

Washington is a small city. It's a place of human dimensions. A kind
of small town that happens to run an empire. A small town of
government officials and members of Congress and personnel of research
institutes and journalists who pretty well all know one another.
Everyone is busy intriguing against everyone else; and everyone
gossips about everyone else.

In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town:
the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by
a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish,
almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul
Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles
Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another
and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of
history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion
of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical
underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of
Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston
Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read
reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the
success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).

Are they wrong? Have they committed an act of folly in leading
Washington to Baghdad? They don't think so. They continue to cling to
their belief. They are still pretending that everything is more or
less fine. That things will work out. Occasionally, though, they seem
to break out in a cold sweat. This is no longer an academic exercise,
one of them says, we are responsible for what is happening. The ideas
we put forward are now affecting the lives of millions of people. So
there are moments when you're scared. You say, Hell, we came to help,
but maybe we made a mistake.

2. William Kristol

Has America bitten off more than it can chew? Bill Kristol says no.
True, the press is very negative, but when you examine the facts in
the field you see that there is no terrorism, no mass destruction, no
attacks on Israel. The oil fields in the south have been saved, air
control has been achieved, American forces are deployed 50 miles from
Baghdad. So, even if mistakes were made here and there, they are not
serious. America is big enough to handle that. Kristol hasn't the
slightest doubt that in the end, General Tommy Franks will achieve his
goals. The 4th Cavalry Division will soon enter the fray, and another
division is on its way from Texas. So it's possible that instead of an
elegant war with 60 killed in two weeks it will be a less elegant
affair with a thousand killed in two months, but nevertheless Bill
Kristol has no doubt at all that the Iraq Liberation War is a just
war, an obligatory war.

Kristol is pleasant-looking, of average height, in his late forties.
In the past 18 months he has used his position as editor of the right-
wing Weekly Standard and his status as one of the leaders of the
neoconservative circle in Washington to induce the White House to do
battle against Saddam Hussein. Because Kristol is believed to exercise
considerable influence on the president, Vice President Richard Cheney
and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he is also perceived as having
been instrumental in getting Washington to launch this all-out
campaign against Baghdad. Sitting behind the stacks of books that
cover his desk at the offices of the Weekly Standard in Northwest
Washington, he tries to convince me that he is not worried. It is
simply inconceivable to him that America will not win. In that event,
the consequences would be catastrophic. No one wants to think
seriously about that possibility.

What is the war about? I ask. Kristol replies that at one level it is
the war that George Bush is talking about: a war against a brutal
regime that has in its possession weapons of mass destruction. But at
a deeper level it is a greater war, for the shaping of a new Middle
East. It is a war that is intended to change the political culture of
the entire region. Because what happened on September 11, 2001,
Kristol says, is that the Americans looked around and saw that the
world is not what they thought it was. The world is a dangerous place.
Therefore the Americans looked for a doctrine that would enable them
to cope with this dangerous world. And the only doctrine they found
was the neoconservative one.

That doctrine maintains that the problem with the Middle East is the
absence of democracy and of freedom. It follows that the only way to
block people like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden is to disseminate
democracy and freedom. To change radically the cultural and political
dynamics that creates such people. And the way to fight the chaos is
to create a new world order that will be based on freedom and human
rights - and to be ready to use force in order to consolidate this new
world. So that, really, is what the war is about. It is being fought
to consolidate a new world order, to create a new Middle East.

Does that mean that the war in Iraq is effectively a neoconservative
war? That's what people are saying, Kristol replies, laughing. But the
truth is that it's an American war. The neoconservatives succeeded
because they touched the bedrock of America. The thing is that America
has a profound sense of mission. America has a need to offer something
that transcends a life of comfort, that goes beyond material success.
Therefore, because of their ideals, the Americans accepted what the
neoconservatives proposed. They didn't want to fight a war over
interests, but over values. They wanted a war driven by a moral
vision. They wanted to hitch their wagon to something bigger than
themselves.

Does this moral vision mean that after Iraq will come the turns of
Saudi Arabia and Egypt?

Kristol says that he is at odds with the administration on the
question of Saudi Arabia. But his opinion is that it is impossible to
let Saudi Arabia just continue what it is doing. It is impossible to
accept the anti-Americanism it is disseminating. The fanatic Wahhabism
that Saudi Arabia engenders is undermining the stability of the entire
region. It's the same with Egypt, he says: we mustn't accept the
status quo there. For Egypt, too, the horizon has to be liberal
democracy.

It has to be understood that in the final analysis, the stability that
the corrupt Arab despots are offering is illusory. Just as the
stability that Yitzhak Rabin received from Yasser Arafat was illusory.
In the end, none of these decadent dictatorships will endure. The
choice is between extremist Islam, secular fascism or democracy. And
because of September 11, American understands that. America is in a
position where it has no choice. It is obliged to be far more
aggressive in promoting democracy. Hence this war. It's based on the
new American understanding that if the United States does not shape
the world in its image, the world will shape the United States in its
own image.

3. Charles Krauthammer

Is this going to turn into a second Vietnam? Charles Krauthammer says
no. There is no similarity to Vietnam. Unlike in the 1960s, there is
no anti-establishment subculture in the United States now. Unlike in
the 1960s, there is now an abiding love of the army in the United
States. Unlike in the 1960s, there is a determined president, one with
character, in the White House. And unlike in the 1960s, Americans are
not deterred from making sacrifices. That is the sea-change that took
place here on September 11, 2001. Since that morning, Americans have
understood that if they don't act now and if weapons of mass
destruction reach extremist terrorist organizations, millions of
Americans will die. Therefore, because they understand that those
others want to kill them by the millions, the Americans prefer to take
to the field of battle and fight, rather than sit idly by and die at
home.

Charles Krauthammer is handsome, swarthy and articulate. In his
spacious office on 19th Street in Northwest Washington, he sits
upright in a black wheelchair. Although his writing tends to be
gloomy, his mood now is elevated. The well-known columnist (Washington
Post, Time, Weekly Standard) has no real doubts about the outcome of
the war that he promoted for 18 months. No, he does not accept the
view that he helped lead America into the new killing fields between
the Tigris and the Euphrates. But it is true that he is part of a
conceptual stream that had something to offer in the aftermath of
September 11. Within a few weeks after the attacks on the Twin Towers
and the Pentagon, he had singled out Baghdad in his columns as an
essential target. And now, too, he is convinced that America has the
strength to pull it off. The thought that America will not win has
never even crossed his mind.

What is the war about? It's about three different issues. First of
all, this is a war for disarming Iraq of its weapons of mass
destruction. That's the basis, the self-evident cause, and it is also
sufficient cause in itself. But beyond that, the war in Iraq is being
fought to replace the demonic deal America cut with the Arab world
decades ago. That deal said: you will send us oil and we will not
intervene in your internal affairs. Send us oil and we will not demand
from you what we are demanding of Chile, the Philippines, Korea and
South Africa.

That deal effectively expired on September 11, 2001, Krauthammer says.
Since that day, the Americans have understood that if they allow the
Arab world to proceed in its evil ways - suppression, economic ruin,
sowing despair - it will continue to produce more and more bin Ladens.
America thus reached the conclusion that it has no choice: it has to
take on itself the project of rebuilding the Arab world. Therefore,
the Iraq war is really the beginning of a gigantic historical
experiment whose purpose is to do in the Arab world what was done in
Germany and Japan after World War II.

It's an ambitious experiment, Krauthammer admits, maybe even utopian,
but not unrealistic. After all, it is inconceivable to accept the
racist assumption that the Arabs are different from all other human
beings, that the Arabs are incapable of conducting a democratic way of
life.

However, according to the Jewish-American columnist, the present war
has a further importance. If Iraq does become pro-Western and if it
becomes the focus of American influence, that will be of immense
geopolitical importance. An American presence in Iraq will project
power across the region. It will suffuse the rebels in Iran with
courage and strength, and it will deter and restrain Syria. It will
accelerate the processes of change that the Middle East must undergo.

Isn't the idea of preemptive war a dangerous one that rattles the
world order?

There is no choice, Krauthammer replies. In the 21st century we face a
new and singular challenge: the democratization of mass destruction.
There are three possible strategies in the face of that challenge:
appeasement, deterrence and preemption. Because appeasement and
deterrence will not work, preemption is the only strategy left. The
United States must implement an aggressive policy of preemption. Which
is exactly what it is now doing in Iraq. That is what Tommy Franks'
soldiers are doing as we speak.

And what if the experiment fails? What if America is defeated?

This war will enhance the place of America in the world for the coming
generation, Krauthammer says. Its outcome will shape the world for the
next 25 years. There are three possibilities. If the United States
wins quickly and without a bloodbath, it will be a colossus that will
dictate the world order. If the victory is slow and contaminated, it
will be impossible to go on to other Arab states after Iraq. It will
stop there. But if America is beaten, the consequences will be
catastrophic. Its deterrent capability will be weakened, its friends
will abandon it and it will become insular. Extreme instability will
be engendered in the Middle East.

You don't really want to think about what will happen, Krauthammer
says looking me straight in the eye. But just because that's so, I am
positive we will not lose. Because the administration understands the
implications. The president understands that everything is riding on
this. So he will throw everything we've got into this. He will do
everything that has to be done. George W. Bush will not let America
lose.

4. Thomas Friedman

Is this an American Lebanon War? Tom Friedman says he is afraid it is.
He was there, in the Commodore Hotel in Beirut, in the summer of 1982,
and he remembers it well. So he sees the lines of resemblance clearly.
General Ahmed Chalabi (the Shi'ite leader that the neoconservatives
want to install as the leader of a free Iraq) in the role of Bashir
Jemayel. The Iraqi opposition in the role of the Phalange. Richard
Perle and the conservative circle around him as Ariel Sharon. And a
war that is at bottom a war of choice. A war that wants to utilize
massive force in order to establish a new order.

Tom Friedman, The New York Times columnist, did not oppose the war. On
the contrary. He too was severely shaken by September 11, he too wants
to understand where these desperate fanatics are coming from who hate
America more than they love their own lives. And he too reached the
conclusion that the status quo in the Middle East is no longer
acceptable. The status quo is terminal. And therefore it is urgent to
foment a reform in the Arab world.

Some things are true even if George Bush believes them, Friedman says
with a smile. And after September 11, it's impossible to tell Bush to
drop it, ignore it. There was a certain basic justice in the overall
American feeling that told the Arab world: we left you alone for a
long time, you played with matches and in the end we were burned. So
we're not going to leave you alone any longer.

He is sitting in a large rectangular room in the offices of The New
York Times in northwest Washington, on the corner of 17th Street. One
wall of the room is a huge map of the world. Hunched over his
computer, he reads me witty lines from the article that will be going
to press in two hours. He polishes, sharpens, plays word games. He
ponders what's right to say now, what should be left for a later date.
Turning to me, he says that democracies look soft until they're
threatened. When threatened, they become very hard. Actually, the Iraq
war is a kind of Jenin on a huge scale. Because in Jenin, too, what
happened was that the Israelis told the Palestinians, We left you here
alone and you played with matches until suddenly you blew up a
Passover seder in Netanya. And therefore we are not going to leave you
along any longer. We will go from house to house in the Casbah. And
from America's point of view, Saddam's Iraq is Jenin. This war is a
defensive shield. It follows that the danger is the same: that like
Israel, America will make the mistake of using only force.

This is not an illegitimate war, Friedman says. But it is a very
presumptuous war. You need a great deal of presumption to believe that
you can rebuild a country half a world from home. But if such a
presumptuous war is to have a chance, it needs international support.
That international legitimacy is essential so you will have enough
time and space to execute your presumptuous project. But George Bush
didn't have the patience to glean international support. He gambled
that the war would justify itself, that we would go in fast and
conquer fast and that the Iraqis would greet us with rice and the war
would thus be self-justifying. That did not happen. Maybe it will
happen next week, but in the meantime it did not happen.

When I think about what is going to happen, I break into a sweat,
Friedman says. I see us being forced to impose a siege on Baghdad. And
I know what kind of insanity a siege on Baghdad can unleash. The
thought of house-to-house combat in Baghdad without international
legitimacy makes me lose my appetite. I see American embassies
burning. I see windows of American businesses shattered. I see how the
Iraqi resistance to America connects to the general Arab resistance to
America and the worldwide resistance to America. The thought of what
could happen is eating me up.

What George Bush did, Friedman says, is to show us a splendid mahogany
table: the new democratic Iraq. But when you turn the table over, you
see that it has only one leg. This war is resting on one leg. But on
the other hand, anyone who thinks he can defeat George Bush had better
think again. Bush will never give in. That's not what he's made of.
Believe me, you don't want to be next to this guy when he thinks he's
being backed into a corner. I don't suggest that anyone who holds his
life dear mess with Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush.

Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It's the war the
neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It's the war the
neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when
September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this
is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite.
Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom
are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if
you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq
war would not have happened.

Still, it's not all that simple, Friedman retracts. It's not some
fantasy the neoconservatives invented. It's not that 25 people
hijacked America. You don't take such a great nation into such a great
adventure with Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard and another five
or six influential columnists. In the final analysis, what fomented
the war is America's over-reaction to September 11. The genuine sense
of anxiety that spread in America after September 11. It is not only
the neoconservatives who led us to the outskirts of Baghdad. What led
us to the outskirts of Baghdad is a very American combination of
anxiety and hubris.
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Even Ariel Sharon admitted that Jews control America!

Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio
(in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, Shimon Peres warned Ariel Sharon Wednesday
that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire
with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the
US against us."

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying
----

"Every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and
will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry
about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control
America, and the Americans know it."

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against
saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public
relations disaster."
IAP News

Jimmy Carter said it too!

"The Israeli lobby is so powerful that no man could become president
without gaining their support." - Former US President Jimmy Carter
after leaving office.

George H.W. Bush quote!

"There are powerful forces out there." - Former US President George
H.W. Bush, referring to the power of the Israel lobby during a heated
foreign aid dispute after the first Gulf War. Israel demanded
billions of US taxpayer dollars to expand illegal Jewish settlements
on the West Bank, and Bush refused. This led to a dispute with the
Israeli lobby, which then helped elect Bill Clinton as president.

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Below is a PARTIAL list of Jews who dominate the United States media,
and who control what we see, read, and think. The overwhelming
majority of those listed below cheerleaded the illegal war on Iraq,
and many, but not all, are now actively promoting a new war against
Iran.
----------
RUPERT MURDOCH, pro-war, pro-Israel owner of Fox TV, New York Post,
London Times, News of the World, The Wall Street Journal (raised by
Jewish Zionist mother)
MATT DRUDGE, author and owner of The Drudge Report, and constant
beater of the drums for war, and all for Israel.
WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC) William Kristol is the top
voice of the pro-war, pro-Israel "Neoconservative" cult that now
controls the Republican Party. Ironically, many if not most of the
Jewish Neocons started their political lives as Marxists.
DICK MORRIS, Fox News guest commentator and former Clinton aid,
constant war hawk.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN correspondent and former lobbyist for the Israel
America Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). War hawk, promoter of
Israeli interests first and last.
ANDREA MITCHELL, pro-war NBC News correspondent, and wife of former
Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, who also is Jewish. Andrea
Mitchell beat the drums of war, supporting and promoting the Iraq war
and slanting news in favor of Israel whenever she gets the
opportunity.
DEAN REYNOLDS, pro-war, pro-Israel ABC News correspondent who once
gave an editorial on ABC Nightly News about why Palestinians "are so
easy to hate." Can you imagine any journalist getting away with an on-
air editorial on why Jews are so easy to hate?
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and
chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-
Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on
Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by
Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media
giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over
the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
"mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, former syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
Producers, appointed by Clinton.
ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on
domestic terrorism.
DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times
network of "alternative weeklies."
DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle
East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal
Entertainment
KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which
represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer
and Bill O'Reilly.
TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL-
TimeWarner
JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
HOWARD STERN, pro-war, pro-Israel radio "shock jock."
HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San
Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets. His real name is Michael Alan
Weiner.
MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has
Israeli flag on his home page. BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think
Tank.
ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker
NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications,
includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group,
includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement;
American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more
than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television
programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated
Press.
PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
----------------------------
Below is a partial list of major Zionist organizations, that work to
control governments all over the world.
-
Israel America Public Affairs Commitee (AIPAC) - AIPAC runs Congress
and controls the White House.
American Zionist Movement
Zionist Organization of America
World Zionist Org
Hadassah
Republican Jewish Coalition
NACPAC
Protect Our Heritage PAC
Israel Unity Coalition
Jabotinsky Institute
Israel Action
Young Judea
World Zionist Organization
FLAME
Shuva
Likud of Holland
Shalem Center
Hasbara US
Zionist Federation of Australia
Israel Hasbara Committee
Ahavat Israel
Project Shofar
TruePeace
Professors For A Strong Israel
One Jerusalem
Tagar Jewish Activists
Betar
Jews For Truth Now
Olam For Israel
VIPAC
Temple Institute
Temple Mount Faithful
Temple Mount Org
Destruction In The Temple Mount
American Jewish Council
Kadam
Rosenblit
Jewish Legion
Elad Foundation
Crisis Jerusalem
Save Israel
The Zionist Organization of America
Likud (Hebrew)
Herut
Manhigut Yehudit
Netanyahu.org
Yisrael Beiteinu (Hebrew)
Moledet (Hebrew)
Tekuma (Hebrew)
ZoArtzeinu
World Mizrachi Movement
Women In Green
Women In Green (US)
Americans For A Safe Israel
American Friends Of Likud
Likud Supporters (Hebrew)
Religious Zionists Of America
American Zionist Movement
Amit Baltimore/Washington
Association of Reform Zionists of America
B'nei Akiva Galil of Greater Washington
Emunah of America
Habonim Dror Youth Movement
Young Judaea Israel Programs & Summer Camps
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Here is a news story written by Jews and published in a Jewish
newspaper in Israel about how Jews started the Iraq war.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/...&subContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

White man's burden

By Ari Shavit

The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals,
most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the
course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and
Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible. But another journalist, Thomas
Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical

1. The doctrine

WASHINGTON - At the conclusion of its second week, the war to liberate
Iraq wasn't looking good. Not even in Washington. The assumption of a
swift collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime had itself collapsed. The
presupposition that the Iraqi dictatorship would crumble as soon as
mighty America entered the country proved unfounded. The Shi'ites
didn't rise up, the Sunnis fought fiercely. Iraqi guerrilla warfare
found the American generals unprepared and endangered their
overextended supply lines. Nevertheless, 70 percent of the American
people continued to support the war; 60 percent thought victory was
certain; 74 percent expressed confidence in President George W. Bush.

Washington is a small city. It's a place of human dimensions. A kind
of small town that happens to run an empire. A small town of
government officials and members of Congress and personnel of research
institutes and journalists who pretty well all know one another.
Everyone is busy intriguing against everyone else; and everyone
gossips about everyone else.

In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town:
the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by
a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish,
almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul
Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles
Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another
and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of
history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion
of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical
underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of
Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston
Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read
reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the
success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).

Are they wrong? Have they committed an act of folly in leading
Washington to Baghdad? They don't think so. They continue to cling to
their belief. They are still pretending that everything is more or
less fine. That things will work out. Occasionally, though, they seem
to break out in a cold sweat. This is no longer an academic exercise,
one of them says, we are responsible for what is happening. The ideas
we put forward are now affecting the lives of millions of people. So
there are moments when you're scared. You say, Hell, we came to help,
but maybe we made a mistake.

2. William Kristol

Has America bitten off more than it can chew? Bill Kristol says no.
True, the press is very negative, but when you examine the facts in
the field you see that there is no terrorism, no mass destruction, no
attacks on Israel. The oil fields in the south have been saved, air
control has been achieved, American forces are deployed 50 miles from
Baghdad. So, even if mistakes were made here and there, they are not
serious. America is big enough to handle that. Kristol hasn't the
slightest doubt that in the end, General Tommy Franks will achieve his
goals. The 4th Cavalry Division will soon enter the fray, and another
division is on its way from Texas. So it's possible that instead of an
elegant war with 60 killed in two weeks it will be a less elegant
affair with a thousand killed in two months, but nevertheless Bill
Kristol has no doubt at all that the Iraq Liberation War is a just
war, an obligatory war.

Kristol is pleasant-looking, of average height, in his late forties.
In the past 18 months he has used his position as editor of the right-
wing Weekly Standard and his status as one of the leaders of the
neoconservative circle in Washington to induce the White House to do
battle against Saddam Hussein. Because Kristol is believed to exercise
considerable influence on the president, Vice President Richard Cheney
and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he is also perceived as having
been instrumental in getting Washington to launch this all-out
campaign against Baghdad. Sitting behind the stacks of books that
cover his desk at the offices of the Weekly Standard in Northwest
Washington, he tries to convince me that he is not worried. It is
simply inconceivable to him that America will not win. In that event,
the consequences would be catastrophic. No one wants to think
seriously about that possibility.

What is the war about? I ask. Kristol replies that at one level it is
the war that George Bush is talking about: a war against a brutal
regime that has in its possession weapons of mass destruction. But at
a deeper level it is a greater war, for the shaping of a new Middle
East. It is a war that is intended to change the political culture of
the entire region. Because what happened on September 11, 2001,
Kristol says, is that the Americans looked around and saw that the
world is not what they thought it was. The world is a dangerous place.
Therefore the Americans looked for a doctrine that would enable them
to cope with this dangerous world. And the only doctrine they found
was the neoconservative one.

That doctrine maintains that the problem with the Middle East is the
absence of democracy and of freedom. It follows that the only way to
block people like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden is to disseminate
democracy and freedom. To change radically the cultural and political
dynamics that creates such people. And the way to fight the chaos is
to create a new world order that will be based on freedom and human
rights - and to be ready to use force in order to consolidate this new
world. So that, really, is what the war is about. It is being fought
to consolidate a new world order, to create a new Middle East.

Does that mean that the war in Iraq is effectively a neoconservative
war? That's what people are saying, Kristol replies, laughing. But the
truth is that it's an American war. The neoconservatives succeeded
because they touched the bedrock of America. The thing is that America
has a profound sense of mission. America has a need to offer something
that transcends a life of comfort, that goes beyond material success.
Therefore, because of their ideals, the Americans accepted what the
neoconservatives proposed. They didn't want to fight a war over
interests, but over values. They wanted a war driven by a moral
vision. They wanted to hitch their wagon to something bigger than
themselves.

Does this moral vision mean that after Iraq will come the turns of
Saudi Arabia and Egypt?

Kristol says that he is at odds with the administration on the
question of Saudi Arabia. But his opinion is that it is impossible to
let Saudi Arabia just continue what it is doing. It is impossible to
accept the anti-Americanism it is disseminating. The fanatic Wahhabism
that Saudi Arabia engenders is undermining the stability of the entire
region. It's the same with Egypt, he says: we mustn't accept the
status quo there. For Egypt, too, the horizon has to be liberal
democracy.

It has to be understood that in the final analysis, the stability that
the corrupt Arab despots are offering is illusory. Just as the
stability that Yitzhak Rabin received from Yasser Arafat was illusory.
In the end, none of these decadent dictatorships will endure. The
choice is between extremist Islam, secular fascism or democracy. And
because of September 11, American understands that. America is in a
position where it has no choice. It is obliged to be far more
aggressive in promoting democracy. Hence this war. It's based on the
new American understanding that if the United States does not shape
the world in its image, the world will shape the United States in its
own image.

3. Charles Krauthammer

Is this going to turn into a second Vietnam? Charles Krauthammer says
no. There is no similarity to Vietnam. Unlike in the 1960s, there is
no anti-establishment subculture in the United States now. Unlike in
the 1960s, there is now an abiding love of the army in the United
States. Unlike in the 1960s, there is a determined president, one with
character, in the White House. And unlike in the 1960s, Americans are
not deterred from making sacrifices. That is the sea-change that took
place here on September 11, 2001. Since that morning, Americans have
understood that if they don't act now and if weapons of mass
destruction reach extremist terrorist organizations, millions of
Americans will die. Therefore, because they understand that those
others want to kill them by the millions, the Americans prefer to take
to the field of battle and fight, rather than sit idly by and die at
home.

Charles Krauthammer is handsome, swarthy and articulate. In his
spacious office on 19th Street in Northwest Washington, he sits
upright in a black wheelchair. Although his writing tends to be
gloomy, his mood now is elevated. The well-known columnist (Washington
Post, Time, Weekly Standard) has no real doubts about the outcome of
the war that he promoted for 18 months. No, he does not accept the
view that he helped lead America into the new killing fields between
the Tigris and the Euphrates. But it is true that he is part of a
conceptual stream that had something to offer in the aftermath of
September 11. Within a few weeks after the attacks on the Twin Towers
and the Pentagon, he had singled out Baghdad in his columns as an
essential target. And now, too, he is convinced that America has the
strength to pull it off. The thought that America will not win has
never even crossed his mind.

What is the war about? It's about three different issues. First of
all, this is a war for disarming Iraq of its weapons of mass
destruction. That's the basis, the self-evident cause, and it is also
sufficient cause in itself. But beyond that, the war in Iraq is being
fought to replace the demonic deal America cut with the Arab world
decades ago. That deal said: you will send us oil and we will not
intervene in your internal affairs. Send us oil and we will not demand
from you what we are demanding of Chile, the Philippines, Korea and
South Africa.

That deal effectively expired on September 11, 2001, Krauthammer says.
Since that day, the Americans have understood that if they allow the
Arab world to proceed in its evil ways - suppression, economic ruin,
sowing despair - it will continue to produce more and more bin Ladens.
America thus reached the conclusion that it has no choice: it has to
take on itself the project of rebuilding the Arab world. Therefore,
the Iraq war is really the beginning of a gigantic historical
experiment whose purpose is to do in the Arab world what was done in
Germany and Japan after World War II.

It's an ambitious experiment, Krauthammer admits, maybe even utopian,
but not unrealistic. After all, it is inconceivable to accept the
racist assumption that the Arabs are different from all other human
beings, that the Arabs are incapable of conducting a democratic way of
life.

However, according to the Jewish-American columnist, the present war
has a further importance. If Iraq does become pro-Western and if it
becomes the focus of American influence, that will be of immense
geopolitical importance. An American presence in Iraq will project
power across the region. It will suffuse the rebels in Iran with
courage and strength, and it will deter and restrain Syria. It will
accelerate the processes of change that the Middle East must undergo.

Isn't the idea of preemptive war a dangerous one that rattles the
world order?

There is no choice, Krauthammer replies. In the 21st century we face a
new and singular challenge: the democratization of mass destruction.
There are three possible strategies in the face of that challenge:
appeasement, deterrence and preemption. Because appeasement and
deterrence will not work, preemption is the only strategy left. The
United States must implement an aggressive policy of preemption. Which
is exactly what it is now doing in Iraq. That is what Tommy Franks'
soldiers are doing as we speak.

And what if the experiment fails? What if America is defeated?

This war will enhance the place of America in the world for the coming
generation, Krauthammer says. Its outcome will shape the world for the
next 25 years. There are three possibilities. If the United States
wins quickly and without a bloodbath, it will be a colossus that will
dictate the world order. If the victory is slow and contaminated, it
will be impossible to go on to other Arab states after Iraq. It will
stop there. But if America is beaten, the consequences will be
catastrophic. Its deterrent capability will be weakened, its friends
will abandon it and it will become insular. Extreme instability will
be engendered in the Middle East.

You don't really want to think about what will happen, Krauthammer
says looking me straight in the eye. But just because that's so, I am
positive we will not lose. Because the administration understands the
implications. The president understands that everything is riding on
this. So he will throw everything we've got into this. He will do
everything that has to be done. George W. Bush will not let America
lose.

4. Thomas Friedman

Is this an American Lebanon War? Tom Friedman says he is afraid it is.
He was there, in the Commodore Hotel in Beirut, in the summer of 1982,
and he remembers it well. So he sees the lines of resemblance clearly.
General Ahmed Chalabi (the Shi'ite leader that the neoconservatives
want to install as the leader of a free Iraq) in the role of Bashir
Jemayel. The Iraqi opposition in the role of the Phalange. Richard
Perle and the conservative circle around him as Ariel Sharon. And a
war that is at bottom a war of choice. A war that wants to utilize
massive force in order to establish a new order.

Tom Friedman, The New York Times columnist, did not oppose the war. On
the contrary. He too was severely shaken by September 11, he too wants
to understand where these desperate fanatics are coming from who hate
America more than they love their own lives. And he too reached the
conclusion that the status quo in the Middle East is no longer
acceptable. The status quo is terminal. And therefore it is urgent to
foment a reform in the Arab world.

Some things are true even if George Bush believes them, Friedman says
with a smile. And after September 11, it's impossible to tell Bush to
drop it, ignore it. There was a certain basic justice in the overall
American feeling that told the Arab world: we left you alone for a
long time, you played with matches and in the end we were burned. So
we're not going to leave you alone any longer.

He is sitting in a large rectangular room in the offices of The New
York Times in northwest Washington, on the corner of 17th Street. One
wall of the room is a huge map of the world. Hunched over his
computer, he reads me witty lines from the article that will be going
to press in two hours. He polishes, sharpens, plays word games. He
ponders what's right to say now, what should be left for a later date.
Turning to me, he says that democracies look soft until they're
threatened. When threatened, they become very hard. Actually, the Iraq
war is a kind of Jenin on a huge scale. Because in Jenin, too, what
happened was that the Israelis told the Palestinians, We left you here
alone and you played with matches until suddenly you blew up a
Passover seder in Netanya. And therefore we are not going to leave you
along any longer. We will go from house to house in the Casbah. And
from America's point of view, Saddam's Iraq is Jenin. This war is a
defensive shield. It follows that the danger is the same: that like
Israel, America will make the mistake of using only force.

This is not an illegitimate war, Friedman says. But it is a very
presumptuous war. You need a great deal of presumption to believe that
you can rebuild a country half a world from home. But if such a
presumptuous war is to have a chance, it needs international support.
That international legitimacy is essential so you will have enough
time and space to execute your presumptuous project. But George Bush
didn't have the patience to glean international support. He gambled
that the war would justify itself, that we would go in fast and
conquer fast and that the Iraqis would greet us with rice and the war
would thus be self-justifying. That did not happen. Maybe it will
happen next week, but in the meantime it did not happen.

When I think about what is going to happen, I break into a sweat,
Friedman says. I see us being forced to impose a siege on Baghdad. And
I know what kind of insanity a siege on Baghdad can unleash. The
thought of house-to-house combat in Baghdad without international
legitimacy makes me lose my appetite. I see American embassies
burning. I see windows of American businesses shattered. I see how the
Iraqi resistance to America connects to the general Arab resistance to
America and the worldwide resistance to America. The thought of what
could happen is eating me up.

What George Bush did, Friedman says, is to show us a splendid mahogany
table: the new democratic Iraq. But when you turn the table over, you
see that it has only one leg. This war is resting on one leg. But on
the other hand, anyone who thinks he can defeat George Bush had better
think again. Bush will never give in. That's not what he's made of.
Believe me, you don't want to be next to this guy when he thinks he's
being backed into a corner. I don't suggest that anyone who holds his
life dear mess with Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush.

Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It's the war the
neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It's the war the
neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when
September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this
is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite.
Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom
are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if
you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq
war would not have happened.

Still, it's not all that simple, Friedman retracts. It's not some
fantasy the neoconservatives invented. It's not that 25 people
hijacked America. You don't take such a great nation into such a great
adventure with Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard and another five
or six influential columnists. In the final analysis, what fomented
the war is America's over-reaction to September 11. The genuine sense
of anxiety that spread in America after September 11. It is not only
the neoconservatives who led us to the outskirts of Baghdad. What led
us to the outskirts of Baghdad is a very American combination of
anxiety and hubris.
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> http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/10/Sharon3.html
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> Even Ariel Sharon admitted that Jews control America!
>
> Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio
> (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, Shimon Peres warned Ariel Sharon Wednesday
> that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire
> with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the
> US against us."
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> At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying
> ----
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> "Every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and
> will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry
> about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control
> America, and the Americans know it."
>
> The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against
> saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public
> relations disaster."
> IAP News
>
> Jimmy Carter said it too!
>
> "The Israeli lobby is so powerful that no man could become president
> without gaining their support." - Former US President Jimmy Carter
> after leaving office.
>
> George H.W. Bush quote!
>
> "There are powerful forces out there." - Former US President George
> H.W. Bush, referring to the power of the Israel lobby during a heated
> foreign aid dispute after the first Gulf War. Israel demanded
> billions of US taxpayer dollars to expand illegal Jewish settlements
> on the West Bank, and Bush refused. This led to a dispute with the
> Israeli lobby, which then helped elect Bill Clinton as president.
>
> ----------
> Below is a PARTIAL list of Jews who dominate the United States media,
> and who control what we see, read, and think. The overwhelming
> majority of those listed below cheerleaded the illegal war on Iraq,
> and many, but not all, are now actively promoting a new war against
> Iran.
> ----------
> RUPERT MURDOCH, pro-war, pro-Israel owner of Fox TV, New York Post,
> London Times, News of the World, The Wall Street Journal (raised by
> Jewish Zionist mother)
> MATT DRUDGE, author and owner of The Drudge Report, and constant
> beater of the drums for war, and all for Israel.
> WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
> Project for a New American Century (PNAC) William Kristol is the top
> voice of the pro-war, pro-Israel "Neoconservative" cult that now
> controls the Republican Party. Ironically, many if not most of the
> Jewish Neocons started their political lives as Marxists.
> DICK MORRIS, Fox News guest commentator and former Clinton aid,
> constant war hawk.
> WOLF BLITZER, CNN correspondent and former lobbyist for the Israel
> America Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). War hawk, promoter of
> Israeli interests first and last.
> ANDREA MITCHELL, pro-war NBC News correspondent, and wife of former
> Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, who also is Jewish. Andrea
> Mitchell beat the drums of war, supporting and promoting the Iraq war
> and slanting news in favor of Israel whenever she gets the
> opportunity.
> DEAN REYNOLDS, pro-war, pro-Israel ABC News correspondent who once
> gave an editorial on ABC Nightly News about why Palestinians "are so
> easy to hate." Can you imagine any journalist getting away with an on-
> air editorial on why Jews are so easy to hate?
> MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and
> chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
> Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
> LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-
> Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on
> Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by
> Clinton.
> JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
> NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
> JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
> DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
> SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media
> giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over
> the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
> MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
> MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
> DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
> JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
> DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
> SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
> LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
> BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
> SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
> Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
> HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
> BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
> PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
> owner of Fox TV
> MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
> identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
> "mentor."
> ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
> and other publications.
> WILLIAM SAFIRE, former syndicated columnist for the NYT.
> TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
> CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
> Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
> media."
> RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
> JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
> NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
> Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
> Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
> Producers, appointed by Clinton.
> ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
> STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on
> domestic terrorism.
> DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times
> network of "alternative weeklies."
> DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
> KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle
> East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
> BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal
> Entertainment
> KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
> RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which
> represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer
> and Bill O'Reilly.
> TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
> MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
> WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL-
> TimeWarner
> JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
> JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
> SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
> GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
> STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
> JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
> DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
> LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
> JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
> MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
> DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
> HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
> AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
> JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
> ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
> BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
> IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
> TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
> ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
> MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
> BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
> DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
> CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
> HOWARD STERN, pro-war, pro-Israel radio "shock jock."
> HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
> RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
> PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
> RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
> JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
> MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San
> Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets. His real name is Michael Alan
> Weiner.
> MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
> DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has
> Israeli flag on his home page. BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think
> Tank.
> ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
> DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
> DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker
> NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
> HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
> SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications,
> includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group,
> includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement;
> American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more
> than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television
> programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
> DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated
> Press.
> PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
> RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
> LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
> ----------------------------
> Below is a partial list of major Zionist organizations, that work to
> control governments all over the world.
> -
> Israel America Public Affairs Commitee (AIPAC) - AIPAC runs Congress
> and controls the White House.
> American Zionist Movement
> Zionist Organization of America
> World Zionist Org
> Hadassah
> Republican Jewish Coalition
> NACPAC
> Protect Our Heritage PAC
> Israel Unity Coalition
> Jabotinsky Institute
> Israel Action
> Young Judea
> World Zionist Organization
> FLAME
> Shuva
> Likud of Holland
> Shalem Center
> Hasbara US
> Zionist Federation of Australia
> Israel Hasbara Committee
> Ahavat Israel
> Project Shofar
> TruePeace
> Professors For A Strong Israel
> One Jerusalem
> Tagar Jewish Activists
> Betar
> Jews For Truth Now
> Olam For Israel
> VIPAC
> Temple Institute
> Temple Mount Faithful
> Temple Mount Org
> Destruction In The Temple Mount
> American Jewish Council
> Kadam
> Rosenblit
> Jewish Legion
> Elad Foundation
> Crisis Jerusalem
> Save Israel
> The Zionist Organization of America
> Likud (Hebrew)
> Herut
> Manhigut Yehudit
> Netanyahu.org
> Yisrael Beiteinu (Hebrew)
> Moledet (Hebrew)
> Tekuma (Hebrew)
> ZoArtzeinu
> World Mizrachi Movement
> Women In Green
> Women In Green (US)
> Americans For A Safe Israel
> American Friends Of Likud
> Likud Supporters (Hebrew)
> Religious Zionists Of America
> American Zionist Movement
> Amit Baltimore/Washington
> Association of Reform Zionists of America
> B'nei Akiva Galil of Greater Washington
> Emunah of America
> Habonim Dror Youth Movement
> Young Judaea Israel Programs & Summer Camps
> ------------------------------------
> Here is a news story written by Jews and published in a Jewish
> newspaper in Israel about how Jews started the Iraq war.
>
>

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&contrassID=2&su
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>
> White man's burden
>
> By Ari Shavit
>
> The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals,
> most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the
> course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and
> Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible. But another journalist, Thomas
> Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical
>
> 1. The doctrine
>
> WASHINGTON - At the conclusion of its second week, the war to liberate
> Iraq wasn't looking good. Not even in Washington. The assumption of a
> swift collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime had itself collapsed. The
> presupposition that the Iraqi dictatorship would crumble as soon as
> mighty America entered the country proved unfounded. The Shi'ites
> didn't rise up, the Sunnis fought fiercely. Iraqi guerrilla warfare
> found the American generals unprepared and endangered their
> overextended supply lines. Nevertheless, 70 percent of the American
> people continued to support the war; 60 percent thought victory was
> certain; 74 percent expressed confidence in President George W. Bush.
>
> Washington is a small city. It's a place of human dimensions. A kind
> of small town that happens to run an empire. A small town of
> government officials and members of Congress and personnel of research
> institutes and journalists who pretty well all know one another.
> Everyone is busy intriguing against everyone else; and everyone
> gossips about everyone else.
>
> In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town:
> the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by
> a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish,
> almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul
> Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles
> Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another
> and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of
> history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion
> of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical
> underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of
> Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston
> Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read
> reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the
> success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).
>
> Are they wrong? Have they committed an act of folly in leading
> Washington to Baghdad? They don't think so. They continue to cling to
> their belief. They are still pretending that everything is more or
> less fine. That things will work out. Occasionally, though, they seem
> to break out in a cold sweat. This is no longer an academic exercise,
> one of them says, we are responsible for what is happening. The ideas
> we put forward are now affecting the lives of millions of people. So
> there are moments when you're scared. You say, Hell, we came to help,
> but maybe we made a mistake.
>
> 2. William Kristol
>
> Has America bitten off more than it can chew? Bill Kristol says no.
> True, the press is very negative, but when you examine the facts in
> the field you see that there is no terrorism, no mass destruction, no
> attacks on Israel. The oil fields in the south have been saved, air
> control has been achieved, American forces are deployed 50 miles from
> Baghdad. So, even if mistakes were made here and there, they are not
> serious. America is big enough to handle that. Kristol hasn't the
> slightest doubt that in the end, General Tommy Franks will achieve his
> goals. The 4th Cavalry Division will soon enter the fray, and another
> division is on its way from Texas. So it's possible that instead of an
> elegant war with 60 killed in two weeks it will be a less elegant
> affair with a thousand killed in two months, but nevertheless Bill
> Kristol has no doubt at all that the Iraq Liberation War is a just
> war, an obligatory war.
>
> Kristol is pleasant-looking, of average height, in his late forties.
> In the past 18 months he has used his position as editor of the right-
> wing Weekly Standard and his status as one of the leaders of the
> neoconservative circle in Washington to induce the White House to do
> battle against Saddam Hussein. Because Kristol is believed to exercise
> considerable influence on the president, Vice President Richard Cheney
> and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he is also perceived as having
> been instrumental in getting Washington to launch this all-out
> campaign against Baghdad. Sitting behind the stacks of books that
> cover his desk at the offices of the Weekly Standard in Northwest
> Washington, he tries to convince me that he is not worried. It is
> simply inconceivable to him that America will not win. In that event,
> the consequences would be catastrophic. No one wants to think
> seriously about that possibility.
>
> What is the war about? I ask. Kristol replies that at one level it is
> the war that George Bush is talking about: a war against a brutal
> regime that has in its possession weapons of mass destruction. But at
> a deeper level it is a greater war, for the shaping of a new Middle
> East. It is a war that is intended to change the political culture of
> the entire region. Because what happened on September 11, 2001,
> Kristol says, is that the Americans looked around and saw that the
> world is not what they thought it was. The world is a dangerous place.
> Therefore the Americans looked for a doctrine that would enable them
> to cope with this dangerous world. And the only doctrine they found
> was the neoconservative one.
>
> That doctrine maintains that the problem with the Middle East is the
> absence of democracy and of freedom. It follows that the only way to
> block people like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden is to disseminate
> democracy and freedom. To change radically the cultural and political
> dynamics that creates such people. And the way to fight the chaos is
> to create a new world order that will be based on freedom and human
> rights - and to be ready to use force in order to consolidate this new
> world. So that, really, is what the war is about. It is being fought
> to consolidate a new world order, to create a new Middle East.
>
> Does that mean that the war in Iraq is effectively a neoconservative
> war? That's what people are saying, Kristol replies, laughing. But the
> truth is that it's an American war. The neoconservatives succeeded
> because they touched the bedrock of America. The thing is that America
> has a profound sense of mission. America has a need to offer something
> that transcends a life of comfort, that goes beyond material success.
> Therefore, because of their ideals, the Americans accepted what the
> neoconservatives proposed. They didn't want to fight a war over
> interests, but over values. They wanted a war driven by a moral
> vision. They wanted to hitch their wagon to something bigger than
> themselves.
>
> Does this moral vision mean that after Iraq will come the turns of
> Saudi Arabia and Egypt?
>
> Kristol says that he is at odds with the administration on the
> question of Saudi Arabia. But his opinion is that it is impossible to
> let Saudi Arabia just continue what it is doing. It is impossible to
> accept the anti-Americanism it is disseminating. The fanatic Wahhabism
> that Saudi Arabia engenders is undermining the stability of the entire
> region. It's the same with Egypt, he says: we mustn't accept the
> status quo there. For Egypt, too, the horizon has to be liberal
> democracy.
>
> It has to be understood that in the final analysis, the stability that
> the corrupt Arab despots are offering is illusory. Just as the
> stability that Yitzhak Rabin received from Yasser Arafat was illusory.
> In the end, none of these decadent dictatorships will endure. The
> choice is between extremist Islam, secular fascism or democracy. And
> because of September 11, American understands that. America is in a
> position where it has no choice. It is obliged to be far more
> aggressive in promoting democracy. Hence this war. It's based on the
> new American understanding that if the United States does not shape
> the world in its image, the world will shape the United States in its
> own image.
>
> 3. Charles Krauthammer
>
> Is this going to turn into a second Vietnam? Charles Krauthammer says
> no. There is no similarity to Vietnam. Unlike in the 1960s, there is
> no anti-establishment subculture in the United States now. Unlike in
> the 1960s, there is now an abiding love of the army in the United
> States. Unlike in the 1960s, there is a determined president, one with
> character, in the White House. And unlike in the 1960s, Americans are
> not deterred from making sacrifices. That is the sea-change that took
> place here on September 11, 2001. Since that morning, Americans have
> understood that if they don't act now and if weapons of mass
> destruction reach extremist terrorist organizations, millions of
> Americans will die. Therefore, because they understand that those
> others want to kill them by the millions, the Americans prefer to take
> to the field of battle and fight, rather than sit idly by and die at
> home.
>
> Charles Krauthammer is handsome, swarthy and articulate. In his
> spacious office on 19th Street in Northwest Washington, he sits
> upright in a black wheelchair. Although his writing tends to be
> gloomy, his mood now is elevated. The well-known columnist (Washington
> Post, Time, Weekly Standard) has no real doubts about the outcome of
> the war that he promoted for 18 months. No, he does not accept the
> view that he helped lead America into the new killing fields between
> the Tigris and the Euphrates. But it is true that he is part of a
> conceptual stream that had something to offer in the aftermath of
> September 11. Within a few weeks after the attacks on the Twin Towers
> and the Pentagon, he had singled out Baghdad in his columns as an
> essential target. And now, too, he is convinced that America has the
> strength to pull it off. The thought that America will not win has
> never even crossed his mind.
>
> What is the war about? It's about three different issues. First of
> all, this is a war for disarming Iraq of its weapons of mass
> destruction. That's the basis, the self-evident cause, and it is also
> sufficient cause in itself. But beyond that, the war in Iraq is being
> fought to replace the demonic deal America cut with the Arab world
> decades ago. That deal said: you will send us oil and we will not
> intervene in your internal affairs. Send us oil and we will not demand
> from you what we are demanding of Chile, the Philippines, Korea and
> South Africa.
>
> That deal effectively expired on September 11, 2001, Krauthammer says.
> Since that day, the Americans have understood that if they allow the
> Arab world to proceed in its evil ways - suppression, economic ruin,
> sowing despair - it will continue to produce more and more bin Ladens.
> America thus reached the conclusion that it has no choice: it has to
> take on itself the project of rebuilding the Arab world. Therefore,
> the Iraq war is really the beginning of a gigantic historical
> experiment whose purpose is to do in the Arab world what was done in
> Germany and Japan after World War II.
>
> It's an ambitious experiment, Krauthammer admits, maybe even utopian,
> but not unrealistic. After all, it is inconceivable to accept the
> racist assumption that the Arabs are different from all other human
> beings, that the Arabs are incapable of conducting a democratic way of
> life.
>
> However, according to the Jewish-American columnist, the present war
> has a further importance. If Iraq does become pro-Western and if it
> becomes the focus of American influence, that will be of immense
> geopolitical importance. An American presence in Iraq will project
> power across the region. It will suffuse the rebels in Iran with
> courage and strength, and it will deter and restrain Syria. It will
> accelerate the processes of change that the Middle East must undergo.
>
> Isn't the idea of preemptive war a dangerous one that rattles the
> world order?
>
> There is no choice, Krauthammer replies. In the 21st century we face a
> new and singular challenge: the democratization of mass destruction.
> There are three possible strategies in the face of that challenge:
> appeasement, deterrence and preemption. Because appeasement and
> deterrence will not work, preemption is the only strategy left. The
> United States must implement an aggressive policy of preemption. Which
> is exactly what it is now doing in Iraq. That is what Tommy Franks'
> soldiers are doing as we speak.
>
> And what if the experiment fails? What if America is defeated?
>
> This war will enhance the place of America in the world for the coming
> generation, Krauthammer says. Its outcome will shape the world for the
> next 25 years. There are three possibilities. If the United States
> wins quickly and without a bloodbath, it will be a colossus that will
> dictate the world order. If the victory is slow and contaminated, it
> will be impossible to go on to other Arab states after Iraq. It will
> stop there. But if America is beaten, the consequences will be
> catastrophic. Its deterrent capability will be weakened, its friends
> will abandon it and it will become insular. Extreme instability will
> be engendered in the Middle East.
>
> You don't really want to think about what will happen, Krauthammer
> says looking me straight in the eye. But just because that's so, I am
> positive we will not lose. Because the administration understands the
> implications. The president understands that everything is riding on
> this. So he will throw everything we've got into this. He will do
> everything that has to be done. George W. Bush will not let America
> lose.
>
> 4. Thomas Friedman
>
> Is this an American Lebanon War? Tom Friedman says he is afraid it is.
> He was there, in the Commodore Hotel in Beirut, in the summer of 1982,
> and he remembers it well. So he sees the lines of resemblance clearly.
> General Ahmed Chalabi (the Shi'ite leader that the neoconservatives
> want to install as the leader of a free Iraq) in the role of Bashir
> Jemayel. The Iraqi opposition in the role of the Phalange. Richard
> Perle and the conservative circle around him as Ariel Sharon. And a
> war that is at bottom a war of choice. A war that wants to utilize
> massive force in order to establish a new order.
>
> Tom Friedman, The New York Times columnist, did not oppose the war. On
> the contrary. He too was severely shaken by September 11, he too wants
> to understand where these desperate fanatics are coming from who hate
> America more than they love their own lives. And he too reached the
> conclusion that the status quo in the Middle East is no longer
> acceptable. The status quo is terminal. And therefore it is urgent to
> foment a reform in the Arab world.
>
> Some things are true even if George Bush believes them, Friedman says
> with a smile. And after September 11, it's impossible to tell Bush to
> drop it, ignore it. There was a certain basic justice in the overall
> American feeling that told the Arab world: we left you alone for a
> long time, you played with matches and in the end we were burned. So
> we're not going to leave you alone any longer.
>
> He is sitting in a large rectangular room in the offices of The New
> York Times in northwest Washington, on the corner of 17th Street. One
> wall of the room is a huge map of the world. Hunched over his
> computer, he reads me witty lines from the article that will be going
> to press in two hours. He polishes, sharpens, plays word games. He
> ponders what's right to say now, what should be left for a later date.
> Turning to me, he says that democracies look soft until they're
> threatened. When threatened, they become very hard. Actually, the Iraq
> war is a kind of Jenin on a huge scale. Because in Jenin, too, what
> happened was that the Israelis told the Palestinians, We left you here
> alone and you played with matches until suddenly you blew up a
> Passover seder in Netanya. And therefore we are not going to leave you
> along any longer. We will go from house to house in the Casbah. And
> from America's point of view, Saddam's Iraq is Jenin. This war is a
> defensive shield. It follows that the danger is the same: that like
> Israel, America will make the mistake of using only force.
>
> This is not an illegitimate war, Friedman says. But it is a very
> presumptuous war. You need a great deal of presumption to believe that
> you can rebuild a country half a world from home. But if such a
> presumptuous war is to have a chance, it needs international support.
> That international legitimacy is essential so you will have enough
> time and space to execute your presumptuous project. But George Bush
> didn't have the patience to glean international support. He gambled
> that the war would justify itself, that we would go in fast and
> conquer fast and that the Iraqis would greet us with rice and the war
> would thus be self-justifying. That did not happen. Maybe it will
> happen next week, but in the meantime it did not happen.
>
> When I think about what is going to happen, I break into a sweat,
> Friedman says. I see us being forced to impose a siege on Baghdad. And
> I know what kind of insanity a siege on Baghdad can unleash. The
> thought of house-to-house combat in Baghdad without international
> legitimacy makes me lose my appetite. I see American embassies
> burning. I see windows of American businesses shattered. I see how the
> Iraqi resistance to America connects to the general Arab resistance to
> America and the worldwide resistance to America. The thought of what
> could happen is eating me up.
>
> What George Bush did, Friedman says, is to show us a splendid mahogany
> table: the new democratic Iraq. But when you turn the table over, you
> see that it has only one leg. This war is resting on one leg. But on
> the other hand, anyone who thinks he can defeat George Bush had better
> think again. Bush will never give in. That's not what he's made of.
> Believe me, you don't want to be next to this guy when he thinks he's
> being backed into a corner. I don't suggest that anyone who holds his
> life dear mess with Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush.
>
> Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It's the war the
> neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It's the war the
> neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when
> September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this
> is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite.
> Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom
> are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if
> you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq
> war would not have happened.
>
> Still, it's not all that simple, Friedman retracts. It's not some
> fantasy the neoconservatives invented. It's not that 25 people
> hijacked America. You don't take such a great nation into such a great
> adventure with Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard and another five
> or six influential columnists. In the final analysis, what fomented
> the war is America's over-reaction to September 11. The genuine sense
> of anxiety that spread in America after September 11. It is not only
> the neoconservatives who led us to the outskirts of Baghdad. What led
> us to the outskirts of Baghdad is a very American combination of
> anxiety and hubris.
> -------------------------------------
> SEE: NO WAR FOR ISRAEL: http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
> -
> -
> -
>


Your source material at:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/10/Sharon3.html

has the following lead-in:

Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio (in
Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that
refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the
Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."

Notice the news source is given as IAP. An acronym for Islamic Association
of Palestine. And further, to quote from the same reference: "...Sharon
REPORTEDLY turned toward Peres... Didja' see the word "reportedly"?

And the quote you give from Carter is unsourced. A Google search turned up
nothing but blogs.

The same is true for the Bush quote. A Googling revealed nothing but blogs
and discussion groups.

Looks like your post is full of holes......and baloney.

RO
 
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> http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/10/Sharon3.html
>
> Even Ariel Sharon admitted that Jews control America!
>
> Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio
> (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, Shimon Peres warned Ariel Sharon Wednesday
> that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire
> with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the
> US against us."
>
> At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying
> ----
>
> "Every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and
> will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry
> about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control
> America, and the Americans know it."
>
> The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against
> saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public
> relations disaster."
> IAP News
>
> Jimmy Carter said it too!
>
> "The Israeli lobby is so powerful that no man could become president
> without gaining their support." - Former US President Jimmy Carter
> after leaving office.
>
> George H.W. Bush quote!
>
> "There are powerful forces out there." - Former US President George
> H.W. Bush, referring to the power of the Israel lobby during a heated
> foreign aid dispute after the first Gulf War. Israel demanded
> billions of US taxpayer dollars to expand illegal Jewish settlements
> on the West Bank, and Bush refused. This led to a dispute with the
> Israeli lobby, which then helped elect Bill Clinton as president.
>
> ----------
> Below is a PARTIAL list of Jews who dominate the United States media,
> and who control what we see, read, and think. The overwhelming
> majority of those listed below cheerleaded the illegal war on Iraq,
> and many, but not all, are now actively promoting a new war against
> Iran.
> ----------
> RUPERT MURDOCH, pro-war, pro-Israel owner of Fox TV, New York Post,
> London Times, News of the World, The Wall Street Journal (raised by
> Jewish Zionist mother)
> MATT DRUDGE, author and owner of The Drudge Report, and constant
> beater of the drums for war, and all for Israel.
> WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
> Project for a New American Century (PNAC) William Kristol is the top
> voice of the pro-war, pro-Israel "Neoconservative" cult that now
> controls the Republican Party. Ironically, many if not most of the
> Jewish Neocons started their political lives as Marxists.
> DICK MORRIS, Fox News guest commentator and former Clinton aid,
> constant war hawk.
> WOLF BLITZER, CNN correspondent and former lobbyist for the Israel
> America Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). War hawk, promoter of
> Israeli interests first and last.
> ANDREA MITCHELL, pro-war NBC News correspondent, and wife of former
> Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, who also is Jewish. Andrea
> Mitchell beat the drums of war, supporting and promoting the Iraq war
> and slanting news in favor of Israel whenever she gets the
> opportunity.
> DEAN REYNOLDS, pro-war, pro-Israel ABC News correspondent who once
> gave an editorial on ABC Nightly News about why Palestinians "are so
> easy to hate." Can you imagine any journalist getting away with an on-
> air editorial on why Jews are so easy to hate?
> MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and
> chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
> Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
> LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-
> Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on
> Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by
> Clinton.
> JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
> NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
> JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
> DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
> SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media
> giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over
> the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
> MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
> MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
> DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
> JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
> DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
> SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
> LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
> BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
> SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
> Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
> HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
> BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
> PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
> owner of Fox TV
> MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
> identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
> "mentor."
> ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
> and other publications.
> WILLIAM SAFIRE, former syndicated columnist for the NYT.
> TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
> CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
> Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
> media."
> RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
> JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
> NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
> Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
> Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
> Producers, appointed by Clinton.
> ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
> STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on
> domestic terrorism.
> DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times
> network of "alternative weeklies."
> DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
> KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle
> East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
> BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal
> Entertainment
> KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
> RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which
> represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer
> and Bill O'Reilly.
> TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
> MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
> WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL-
> TimeWarner
> JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
> JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
> SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
> GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
> STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
> JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
> DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
> LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
> JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
> MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
> DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
> HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
> AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
> JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
> ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
> BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
> IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
> TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
> ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
> MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
> BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
> DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
> CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
> HOWARD STERN, pro-war, pro-Israel radio "shock jock."
> HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
> RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
> PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
> RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
> JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
> MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San
> Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets. His real name is Michael Alan
> Weiner.
> MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
> DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has
> Israeli flag on his home page. BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think
> Tank.
> ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
> DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
> DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker
> NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
> HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
> SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications,
> includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group,
> includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement;
> American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more
> than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television
> programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
> DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated
> Press.
> PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
> RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
> LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
> ----------------------------
> Below is a partial list of major Zionist organizations, that work to
> control governments all over the world.
> -
> Israel America Public Affairs Commitee (AIPAC) - AIPAC runs Congress
> and controls the White House.
> American Zionist Movement
> Zionist Organization of America
> World Zionist Org
> Hadassah
> Republican Jewish Coalition
> NACPAC
> Protect Our Heritage PAC
> Israel Unity Coalition
> Jabotinsky Institute
> Israel Action
> Young Judea
> World Zionist Organization
> FLAME
> Shuva
> Likud of Holland
> Shalem Center
> Hasbara US
> Zionist Federation of Australia
> Israel Hasbara Committee
> Ahavat Israel
> Project Shofar
> TruePeace
> Professors For A Strong Israel
> One Jerusalem
> Tagar Jewish Activists
> Betar
> Jews For Truth Now
> Olam For Israel
> VIPAC
> Temple Institute
> Temple Mount Faithful
> Temple Mount Org
> Destruction In The Temple Mount
> American Jewish Council
> Kadam
> Rosenblit
> Jewish Legion
> Elad Foundation
> Crisis Jerusalem
> Save Israel
> The Zionist Organization of America
> Likud (Hebrew)
> Herut
> Manhigut Yehudit
> Netanyahu.org
> Yisrael Beiteinu (Hebrew)
> Moledet (Hebrew)
> Tekuma (Hebrew)
> ZoArtzeinu
> World Mizrachi Movement
> Women In Green
> Women In Green (US)
> Americans For A Safe Israel
> American Friends Of Likud
> Likud Supporters (Hebrew)
> Religious Zionists Of America
> American Zionist Movement
> Amit Baltimore/Washington
> Association of Reform Zionists of America
> B'nei Akiva Galil of Greater Washington
> Emunah of America
> Habonim Dror Youth Movement
> Young Judaea Israel Programs & Summer Camps
> ------------------------------------
> Here is a news story written by Jews and published in a Jewish
> newspaper in Israel about how Jews started the Iraq war.
>
>

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=280279&contrassID=2&su
bContrassID=14&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
>
> White man's burden
>
> By Ari Shavit
>
> The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals,
> most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the
> course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and
> Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible. But another journalist, Thomas
> Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical
>
> 1. The doctrine
>
> WASHINGTON - At the conclusion of its second week, the war to liberate
> Iraq wasn't looking good. Not even in Washington. The assumption of a
> swift collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime had itself collapsed. The
> presupposition that the Iraqi dictatorship would crumble as soon as
> mighty America entered the country proved unfounded. The Shi'ites
> didn't rise up, the Sunnis fought fiercely. Iraqi guerrilla warfare
> found the American generals unprepared and endangered their
> overextended supply lines. Nevertheless, 70 percent of the American
> people continued to support the war; 60 percent thought victory was
> certain; 74 percent expressed confidence in President George W. Bush.
>
> Washington is a small city. It's a place of human dimensions. A kind
> of small town that happens to run an empire. A small town of
> government officials and members of Congress and personnel of research
> institutes and journalists who pretty well all know one another.
> Everyone is busy intriguing against everyone else; and everyone
> gossips about everyone else.
>
> In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town:
> the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by
> a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish,
> almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul
> Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles
> Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another
> and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of
> history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion
> of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical
> underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of
> Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston
> Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read
> reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the
> success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).
>
> Are they wrong? Have they committed an act of folly in leading
> Washington to Baghdad? They don't think so. They continue to cling to
> their belief. They are still pretending that everything is more or
> less fine. That things will work out. Occasionally, though, they seem
> to break out in a cold sweat. This is no longer an academic exercise,
> one of them says, we are responsible for what is happening. The ideas
> we put forward are now affecting the lives of millions of people. So
> there are moments when you're scared. You say, Hell, we came to help,
> but maybe we made a mistake.
>
> 2. William Kristol
>
> Has America bitten off more than it can chew? Bill Kristol says no.
> True, the press is very negative, but when you examine the facts in
> the field you see that there is no terrorism, no mass destruction, no
> attacks on Israel. The oil fields in the south have been saved, air
> control has been achieved, American forces are deployed 50 miles from
> Baghdad. So, even if mistakes were made here and there, they are not
> serious. America is big enough to handle that. Kristol hasn't the
> slightest doubt that in the end, General Tommy Franks will achieve his
> goals. The 4th Cavalry Division will soon enter the fray, and another
> division is on its way from Texas. So it's possible that instead of an
> elegant war with 60 killed in two weeks it will be a less elegant
> affair with a thousand killed in two months, but nevertheless Bill
> Kristol has no doubt at all that the Iraq Liberation War is a just
> war, an obligatory war.
>
> Kristol is pleasant-looking, of average height, in his late forties.
> In the past 18 months he has used his position as editor of the right-
> wing Weekly Standard and his status as one of the leaders of the
> neoconservative circle in Washington to induce the White House to do
> battle against Saddam Hussein. Because Kristol is believed to exercise
> considerable influence on the president, Vice President Richard Cheney
> and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he is also perceived as having
> been instrumental in getting Washington to launch this all-out
> campaign against Baghdad. Sitting behind the stacks of books that
> cover his desk at the offices of the Weekly Standard in Northwest
> Washington, he tries to convince me that he is not worried. It is
> simply inconceivable to him that America will not win. In that event,
> the consequences would be catastrophic. No one wants to think
> seriously about that possibility.
>
> What is the war about? I ask. Kristol replies that at one level it is
> the war that George Bush is talking about: a war against a brutal
> regime that has in its possession weapons of mass destruction. But at
> a deeper level it is a greater war, for the shaping of a new Middle
> East. It is a war that is intended to change the political culture of
> the entire region. Because what happened on September 11, 2001,
> Kristol says, is that the Americans looked around and saw that the
> world is not what they thought it was. The world is a dangerous place.
> Therefore the Americans looked for a doctrine that would enable them
> to cope with this dangerous world. And the only doctrine they found
> was the neoconservative one.
>
> That doctrine maintains that the problem with the Middle East is the
> absence of democracy and of freedom. It follows that the only way to
> block people like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden is to disseminate
> democracy and freedom. To change radically the cultural and political
> dynamics that creates such people. And the way to fight the chaos is
> to create a new world order that will be based on freedom and human
> rights - and to be ready to use force in order to consolidate this new
> world. So that, really, is what the war is about. It is being fought
> to consolidate a new world order, to create a new Middle East.
>
> Does that mean that the war in Iraq is effectively a neoconservative
> war? That's what people are saying, Kristol replies, laughing. But the
> truth is that it's an American war. The neoconservatives succeeded
> because they touched the bedrock of America. The thing is that America
> has a profound sense of mission. America has a need to offer something
> that transcends a life of comfort, that goes beyond material success.
> Therefore, because of their ideals, the Americans accepted what the
> neoconservatives proposed. They didn't want to fight a war over
> interests, but over values. They wanted a war driven by a moral
> vision. They wanted to hitch their wagon to something bigger than
> themselves.
>
> Does this moral vision mean that after Iraq will come the turns of
> Saudi Arabia and Egypt?
>
> Kristol says that he is at odds with the administration on the
> question of Saudi Arabia. But his opinion is that it is impossible to
> let Saudi Arabia just continue what it is doing. It is impossible to
> accept the anti-Americanism it is disseminating. The fanatic Wahhabism
> that Saudi Arabia engenders is undermining the stability of the entire
> region. It's the same with Egypt, he says: we mustn't accept the
> status quo there. For Egypt, too, the horizon has to be liberal
> democracy.
>
> It has to be understood that in the final analysis, the stability that
> the corrupt Arab despots are offering is illusory. Just as the
> stability that Yitzhak Rabin received from Yasser Arafat was illusory.
> In the end, none of these decadent dictatorships will endure. The
> choice is between extremist Islam, secular fascism or democracy. And
> because of September 11, American understands that. America is in a
> position where it has no choice. It is obliged to be far more
> aggressive in promoting democracy. Hence this war. It's based on the
> new American understanding that if the United States does not shape
> the world in its image, the world will shape the United States in its
> own image.
>
> 3. Charles Krauthammer
>
> Is this going to turn into a second Vietnam? Charles Krauthammer says
> no. There is no similarity to Vietnam. Unlike in the 1960s, there is
> no anti-establishment subculture in the United States now. Unlike in
> the 1960s, there is now an abiding love of the army in the United
> States. Unlike in the 1960s, there is a determined president, one with
> character, in the White House. And unlike in the 1960s, Americans are
> not deterred from making sacrifices. That is the sea-change that took
> place here on September 11, 2001. Since that morning, Americans have
> understood that if they don't act now and if weapons of mass
> destruction reach extremist terrorist organizations, millions of
> Americans will die. Therefore, because they understand that those
> others want to kill them by the millions, the Americans prefer to take
> to the field of battle and fight, rather than sit idly by and die at
> home.
>
> Charles Krauthammer is handsome, swarthy and articulate. In his
> spacious office on 19th Street in Northwest Washington, he sits
> upright in a black wheelchair. Although his writing tends to be
> gloomy, his mood now is elevated. The well-known columnist (Washington
> Post, Time, Weekly Standard) has no real doubts about the outcome of
> the war that he promoted for 18 months. No, he does not accept the
> view that he helped lead America into the new killing fields between
> the Tigris and the Euphrates. But it is true that he is part of a
> conceptual stream that had something to offer in the aftermath of
> September 11. Within a few weeks after the attacks on the Twin Towers
> and the Pentagon, he had singled out Baghdad in his columns as an
> essential target. And now, too, he is convinced that America has the
> strength to pull it off. The thought that America will not win has
> never even crossed his mind.
>
> What is the war about? It's about three different issues. First of
> all, this is a war for disarming Iraq of its weapons of mass
> destruction. That's the basis, the self-evident cause, and it is also
> sufficient cause in itself. But beyond that, the war in Iraq is being
> fought to replace the demonic deal America cut with the Arab world
> decades ago. That deal said: you will send us oil and we will not
> intervene in your internal affairs. Send us oil and we will not demand
> from you what we are demanding of Chile, the Philippines, Korea and
> South Africa.
>
> That deal effectively expired on September 11, 2001, Krauthammer says.
> Since that day, the Americans have understood that if they allow the
> Arab world to proceed in its evil ways - suppression, economic ruin,
> sowing despair - it will continue to produce more and more bin Ladens.
> America thus reached the conclusion that it has no choice: it has to
> take on itself the project of rebuilding the Arab world. Therefore,
> the Iraq war is really the beginning of a gigantic historical
> experiment whose purpose is to do in the Arab world what was done in
> Germany and Japan after World War II.
>
> It's an ambitious experiment, Krauthammer admits, maybe even utopian,
> but not unrealistic. After all, it is inconceivable to accept the
> racist assumption that the Arabs are different from all other human
> beings, that the Arabs are incapable of conducting a democratic way of
> life.
>
> However, according to the Jewish-American columnist, the present war
> has a further importance. If Iraq does become pro-Western and if it
> becomes the focus of American influence, that will be of immense
> geopolitical importance. An American presence in Iraq will project
> power across the region. It will suffuse the rebels in Iran with
> courage and strength, and it will deter and restrain Syria. It will
> accelerate the processes of change that the Middle East must undergo.
>
> Isn't the idea of preemptive war a dangerous one that rattles the
> world order?
>
> There is no choice, Krauthammer replies. In the 21st century we face a
> new and singular challenge: the democratization of mass destruction.
> There are three possible strategies in the face of that challenge:
> appeasement, deterrence and preemption. Because appeasement and
> deterrence will not work, preemption is the only strategy left. The
> United States must implement an aggressive policy of preemption. Which
> is exactly what it is now doing in Iraq. That is what Tommy Franks'
> soldiers are doing as we speak.
>
> And what if the experiment fails? What if America is defeated?
>
> This war will enhance the place of America in the world for the coming
> generation, Krauthammer says. Its outcome will shape the world for the
> next 25 years. There are three possibilities. If the United States
> wins quickly and without a bloodbath, it will be a colossus that will
> dictate the world order. If the victory is slow and contaminated, it
> will be impossible to go on to other Arab states after Iraq. It will
> stop there. But if America is beaten, the consequences will be
> catastrophic. Its deterrent capability will be weakened, its friends
> will abandon it and it will become insular. Extreme instability will
> be engendered in the Middle East.
>
> You don't really want to think about what will happen, Krauthammer
> says looking me straight in the eye. But just because that's so, I am
> positive we will not lose. Because the administration understands the
> implications. The president understands that everything is riding on
> this. So he will throw everything we've got into this. He will do
> everything that has to be done. George W. Bush will not let America
> lose.
>
> 4. Thomas Friedman
>
> Is this an American Lebanon War? Tom Friedman says he is afraid it is.
> He was there, in the Commodore Hotel in Beirut, in the summer of 1982,
> and he remembers it well. So he sees the lines of resemblance clearly.
> General Ahmed Chalabi (the Shi'ite leader that the neoconservatives
> want to install as the leader of a free Iraq) in the role of Bashir
> Jemayel. The Iraqi opposition in the role of the Phalange. Richard
> Perle and the conservative circle around him as Ariel Sharon. And a
> war that is at bottom a war of choice. A war that wants to utilize
> massive force in order to establish a new order.
>
> Tom Friedman, The New York Times columnist, did not oppose the war. On
> the contrary. He too was severely shaken by September 11, he too wants
> to understand where these desperate fanatics are coming from who hate
> America more than they love their own lives. And he too reached the
> conclusion that the status quo in the Middle East is no longer
> acceptable. The status quo is terminal. And therefore it is urgent to
> foment a reform in the Arab world.
>
> Some things are true even if George Bush believes them, Friedman says
> with a smile. And after September 11, it's impossible to tell Bush to
> drop it, ignore it. There was a certain basic justice in the overall
> American feeling that told the Arab world: we left you alone for a
> long time, you played with matches and in the end we were burned. So
> we're not going to leave you alone any longer.
>
> He is sitting in a large rectangular room in the offices of The New
> York Times in northwest Washington, on the corner of 17th Street. One
> wall of the room is a huge map of the world. Hunched over his
> computer, he reads me witty lines from the article that will be going
> to press in two hours. He polishes, sharpens, plays word games. He
> ponders what's right to say now, what should be left for a later date.
> Turning to me, he says that democracies look soft until they're
> threatened. When threatened, they become very hard. Actually, the Iraq
> war is a kind of Jenin on a huge scale. Because in Jenin, too, what
> happened was that the Israelis told the Palestinians, We left you here
> alone and you played with matches until suddenly you blew up a
> Passover seder in Netanya. And therefore we are not going to leave you
> along any longer. We will go from house to house in the Casbah. And
> from America's point of view, Saddam's Iraq is Jenin. This war is a
> defensive shield. It follows that the danger is the same: that like
> Israel, America will make the mistake of using only force.
>
> This is not an illegitimate war, Friedman says. But it is a very
> presumptuous war. You need a great deal of presumption to believe that
> you can rebuild a country half a world from home. But if such a
> presumptuous war is to have a chance, it needs international support.
> That international legitimacy is essential so you will have enough
> time and space to execute your presumptuous project. But George Bush
> didn't have the patience to glean international support. He gambled
> that the war would justify itself, that we would go in fast and
> conquer fast and that the Iraqis would greet us with rice and the war
> would thus be self-justifying. That did not happen. Maybe it will
> happen next week, but in the meantime it did not happen.
>
> When I think about what is going to happen, I break into a sweat,
> Friedman says. I see us being forced to impose a siege on Baghdad. And
> I know what kind of insanity a siege on Baghdad can unleash. The
> thought of house-to-house combat in Baghdad without international
> legitimacy makes me lose my appetite. I see American embassies
> burning. I see windows of American businesses shattered. I see how the
> Iraqi resistance to America connects to the general Arab resistance to
> America and the worldwide resistance to America. The thought of what
> could happen is eating me up.
>
> What George Bush did, Friedman says, is to show us a splendid mahogany
> table: the new democratic Iraq. But when you turn the table over, you
> see that it has only one leg. This war is resting on one leg. But on
> the other hand, anyone who thinks he can defeat George Bush had better
> think again. Bush will never give in. That's not what he's made of.
> Believe me, you don't want to be next to this guy when he thinks he's
> being backed into a corner. I don't suggest that anyone who holds his
> life dear mess with Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush.
>
> Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It's the war the
> neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It's the war the
> neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when
> September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this
> is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite.
> Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom
> are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if
> you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq
> war would not have happened.
>
> Still, it's not all that simple, Friedman retracts. It's not some
> fantasy the neoconservatives invented. It's not that 25 people
> hijacked America. You don't take such a great nation into such a great
> adventure with Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard and another five
> or six influential columnists. In the final analysis, what fomented
> the war is America's over-reaction to September 11. The genuine sense
> of anxiety that spread in America after September 11. It is not only
> the neoconservatives who led us to the outskirts of Baghdad. What led
> us to the outskirts of Baghdad is a very American combination of
> anxiety and hubris.
> -------------------------------------
> SEE: NO WAR FOR ISRAEL: http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
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>


Your source material at:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/10/Sharon3.html

has the following lead-in:

Occupied Jerusalem: 3 October, 2001 (IAP) -- According to Israel radio (in
Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that
refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the
Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."

Notice the news source is given as IAP. An acronym for Islamic Association
of Palestine. And further, to quote from the same reference: "...Sharon
REPORTEDLY turned toward Peres... Didja' see the word "reportedly"?

And the quote you give from Carter is unsourced. A Google search turned up
nothing but blogs.

The same is true for the Bush quote. A Googling revealed nothing but blogs
and discussion groups.

Looks like your post is full of holes......and baloney.

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