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INTERVIEW WITH MAE BRUSSELL ON THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN ONO LENNON

A short while ago we had the pleasure of talking to noted
assassination/conspiracy researcher Mae Brussell at her home in
Carmel, California. Mae was kind enough to share some of her thoughts
on the murder of John Lennon last December 8, 1980 in New York City.
She is just starting her 11th year of broadcasting on radio KLRB,
Carmel, CA.

Tom Davis



Tom: What would be the motive to kill John Lennon on December 8, 1980?
Lennon had been in seclusion for many years and had not yet released
his new album.

Mae: Both the date of Lennon's murder, and the careful selection of
this particular victim are very important. Six weeks after Lennon's
death, Ronald Reagan would become President. Reagan and his soon-to-be
appointed cabinet were prepared to build up the Pentagon war machine
and increase the potential for war against the USSR. The first strike
would fall on small countries like El Salvador and Guatemala. Lennon,
alone, was the only man (even without his fellow Beatles) who had the
ability to draw out one million anti-war protestors in any given city
within 24 hours, if he opposed those war policies.
John Lennon was a spiritual force. He was a giant, like Gandhi, a
man who wrote about peace and brotherly love. He taught an entire
generation to think for themselves and to challenge authority. Lennon
and the Beatles' songs shout out the inequalities life and the
messages of change. Change is a threat to the longtime status quo that
Reagan's team exemplified.
On my weekly radio broadcast of December 7, 1980, I stated that
"the old assassination teams are coming back into power." The very
people responsible for covering up the murders of President John F.
Kennedy, Senator Robert Kennedy, Reverend Martin Luther King, for
Watergate and Koreagate, and the kidnapping and murder of Howard
Hughes, and for hundreds of other deaths, had only six weeks before
they would again be removing or silencing those voices of opposition
to their policies.
Lennon was coming out once more. His album was cut. He was
preparing to be part of the world, a world which was a worse place
since the time he had withdrawn with his family. It was a sure bet
Lennon would react and become a social activist again. That was the
threat. Lennon realized that there was danger coming back into public
view. He took that dangerous chance, and we all lost!

Tom: The common assumption is that Mark David Chapman, arrested the
moment he killed John Lennon, was acting out his personal love-hate
relationship with Lennon. Why do you have to look for a larger
conspiracy than the conflicts in Chapman's own head?

Mae: Single crimes of passion are easy to explain and easy to solve.
When someone is gunned down who is controversial, has political
enemies, is hated by wealthy and well-organized religious movements,
and is an open opponent of government policies at home and abroad,
that kind of murder requires much more inquiry into the background of
the assassin. The conclusions about the murder motive may turn out to
be simple. Yet, in every political assassination since 1963, there
were always more unanswered questions that led to a broader
supposition of intention to kill by a group of people rather than one
single individual.

Tom: What is the first clue you look for if you are suspicious of a
larger conspiracy to assassinate, whether it is John Lennon, President
John F. Kennedy, or the recent attempts on President Reagan and Pope
John Paul II?

Mae: There are necessary connecting links in every assassination
conspiracy. If any link of that chain falls apart and becomes exposed,
the parts of the larger plot are more visible. When every element of
that chain holds together and is present in the evidence and testimony
regarding any particular murder, there has to be a larger
conspiracy. (See accompanying diagram)
The most important link in that chain is the selected decoy or
patsy. Whoever is arrested at the scene of the crime, to the exclusion
of other suspicious persons, becomes the "assassin." This single
person must serve a purpose, namely, to divert all attention away from
those people who have armed him and located him at the scene of the
crime.
Letters and diaries are always present and easily located to
support the predetermined cover story. They provide a "motive", and
are the glue that cements (we are told) the "loner" to his single
purpose.
In preparation for his "act", the decoy or patsy is moved across
countries or overseas, traveling and staying at safe houses. He has no
friends, no jobs, no means of support while at the same time staying
at fancy hotels, spending lots of money, getting phone messages, and
meeting lots of people. Very few people have the money to spend years
in transit like these patsies, whose chances of being in selected
locations at the precise moment their victim is murdered are minute
and impossible without assistance.

Tom: Who was Mark David Chapman? What was there in his background that
made you suspicious that he had been selected for a "decoy" or "patsy"
by other persons who wanted Lennon dead?

Mae: Chapman came from a conservative military family who had moved
from Fort Worth, Texas to Florida. He had become a "Jesus Freak" at
the time Lennon and the Beatles were getting death threats during the
anti-war period. Joining this movement while supposedly loving and
admiring Lennon was a gross contradiction, for the religious
fundamentalists were furious that Lennon considered himself better
known and loved than Jesus.
DeKalb County, Georgia, just to the east of Atlanta, figures
prominently in Chapman's life as it had some years earlier in that of
Martin Luther King. In 1977 in a court affidavit, Robert Byron Watson,
former employee of Magellon's Art Gallery, Atlanta, named several
citizens as having planned and bragged about the "future murder of
Reverend Martin Luther King." King's death came just one week after
the plans were discussed. These same people also talked about
murdering Senator Robert Kennedy.
Chapman attended DeKalb Junior College in the area where these
kinds of plans were laid and such political anger was being vented.
From DeKalb County, Chapman was sent to Beirut, Lebanon. He was handed
the funds both ways. Beirut was the center for George Habash and CIA
assassination teams also identified in the Watson testimony before the
House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1977-78.
On March 31, 1981, United Press International exposed the
connection of "military training in a guerrilla camp" in Beirut,
Lebanon to "worldwide Nazi ties."
After six months in Lebanon, Chapman went to Fort Chaffee,
Arkansas to work with Vietnam refugees recently arrived from Southeast
Asia. Members of the CIA were with him at this military base.
William Colby's Vietnam Phoenix program, staffed with agents who
intensely hated the anti-war, social activists like John Lennon, had
both the intent and the means to move persons like Chapman to their
training camps and then to specific places planned as sites for future
assassinations. Colby came back to the U.S. to become Director of the
C.I.A. at a time (1973) when "Operation Chaos" was in full swing
against the hippies, rock musicians, and anti-war protestors. Many of
them were killed or otherwise neutralized.
From Fort Chaffee, Arkansas, Chapman moved to Lookout Mountain,
Tennessee to attend Presbyterian College.

Martin Luther King, a victim of plans made in DeKalb County,
Georgia, was murdered in Memphis, Tennessee. Senator Howard Baker from
Tennessee and CIA Director William Colby were making deals to cover up
Watergate crimes in 1974-75, year before Chapman moved to Tennessee.
According to news reports, Chapman "fled" Tennessee to Hawaii in
1976. His earliest arrest records indicated he had committed crimes in
Florida, but the authorities later blamed these crimes on another
person, excusing the mix-up as a "computer mistake." Many patsies and
decoys have earlier arrest records that are used to keep them silent
and actively cooperative for fear of going to jail. Was there any
connection between the Florida identification and the reason for
Chapman's flight to Hawaii?
Hawaii has been the scene of many clandestine operations. Many CIA
Vietnamese and members of the Special Forces, now safely removed from
Vietnam, were assembled in Hawaii. The Nugan Hand Bank, an Australian
conduit for CIA "black money", actually assassination funds, kept a
branch in Hawaii. Herbert Mullen, convicted of mass murders in
California, appeared perfectly normal until he was sent to a military
hospital in Hawaii. It was in Maui that he went through his "religious
thinking" and evolved as a killer. Ed Sanders, author of The Family, a
book about the Manson Family, obtained documents regarding a
mysterious trip Mullen took to Hawaii before he later became a
programmed killer.
The years from 1976 to 1978 in Chapman's biography are still vague
and murky: two years of limited employment and "mental treatment."
Allegedly, he was in the hospital for a mental breakdown. On the other
hand, if there were any evidence of mental instability, would not his
permit application to buy the murder weapon have been denied?
There were many years, months, days when Chapman could have been
mentally programmed to become like the "Manchurian Candidate,"
specifically to murder John Lennon, if and when he re-entered public
life. Lennon was not threat until the U.S. was getting close to
another war.
Subsequently, Chapman took a long "vacation", including a trip
around the world. During this voyage he made a trip to Switzerland to
meet a pal from DeKalb County, Georgia, the same man who earlier had
arranged the original trip to Lebanon. The journey culminated in
London with a rare visit to a live Lennon concert.
Chapman's wife, who worked for a travel agency, "arranged his
itinerary". The source of the money for his fare, hotels, food,
concerts, has never been identified, although Pacific Holding Ltd., a
"tourism" company formed by the CIA and Special Forces, may be
implicated. Both groups had funds to hire assassination teams.
When Chapman left his job in Hawaii, October 23, 1980, he flew to
Atlanta, GA. From Georgia, he went to New York City with the intention
of killing John Lennon, but was apparently able to resist the "master
inside himself", a conflict he describes, and returned to Hawaii.
Before long, however, Hawaii was again behind him, and Chapman arrived
in New York on December 5, 1980 with the specific plan to kill John
Lennon, which he did three days later.

Tom: What you are talking about is only circumstantial. There is no
proof that the CIA or any government agency manipulated Chapman for
their purposes. When does the proof of a conspiracy ever become
apparent?

Mae: The burden of proof of conspiracy is put upon the private
investigator. The common denominator in all these cases are those
links in the conspiracy chain (see diagram) which show the relevant
questions to be asked: Were there other persons along with Chapman
shooting at Lennon to make sure he died? Who fled the scene in a
hurry, never sought again by law enforcement agencies? Why did the New
York police adamantly refuse to accept pictures of Chapman taken
autographing an album earlier in the evening of the murder? Why were
they donated to a newspaper after the police refused to accept them?
When Chapman's wife was called by the New York Police, why did they
instruct her, "Don't release any picture of him."? How could Miami
Police issue an erroneous description of a criminal record having the
same last name, date of birth, race, and approximate height as the
slaying suspect? Can we ever see the picture of the Florida suspect?
If Chapman was treated for mental illness in Hawaii, how did he
procure the weapon in Hawaii? How did Chapman transport the gun from
the Island to the Mainland? (This question was dismissed by the
Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents, who said, "No
investigation was in progress.")
Money was never a problem for this wanderer. He and his wife lived
in a $400 a month apartment and were able to support his hobby of
collecting expensive works of art. Owning original Norman Rockwell
lithographs worth $7,500, and traveling around the world aren't
impossible, if there is some kind of occupation that provides the
money for these luxuries.
If Chapman wrote "John Lennon" on his job work sheet on October
23, 1980, it would seem impossible for someone not to notice this
message until the day after Lennon was murdered. Employment log sheets
are usually added up regularly to determine the hours worked and
amount of pay checks. It is more probable that Chapman wrote this name
at that time so that his cover story, his defense after the murder,
would be his mental identification with John Lennon.
Chapman's intention to find Lennon, as just another adoring Beatle
fan, must be separated from the question of who transported him from
Hawaii to Georgia to New York, back to Hawaii, and back again to New
York, with lots of cash, and with the sole purpose of killing Lennon.
Jimmy Breslin, New York columnist, was impressed that Mark David
Chapman could be such a "good shot" with "no military background at
all." But Chapman had been trained to shoot. He had learned to become
a security guard in Georgia before his trips to Lebanon and to the
many countries where he could have been instructed in killing. What
about Ft. Chaffee? Why not shooting practice in Tennessee? What about
military bases in Hawaii? What gives Breslin and the New York Daily
News the right to make such statements without an inkling of Chapman's
background?
Like all the other "loner" drifters, Chapman stayed at expensive
hotels. His last evening before killing Lennon was spent at the
Sheraton Centre Hotel in New York. He was carrying more than $2,000 in
cash along with his credit cards. Where did he get these cards, and on
what basis was the money earned and saved to establish credit to
qualify for these cards?

Tom: You apparently believe there was a government conspiracy to
assassinate and silence John Lennon which was conducted by the same
people who murdered other political figures and musicians in the past
eighteen years?

Mae: Absolutely! The federal government has maintained active programs
to eliminate rock musicians and disrupt rock concerts. Senator Frank
Church's Committee hearings in 1975 and the FBI Cointel-Programs
clearly document the intent to break up any gatherings of the "new
left". Nothing brought anti-war demonstrators together with political
messages more effectively than music festivals.
There is hard evidence the CIA assigned agents to "investigate the
music industry." After the murders of Tim Buckley, Jim Croce, and Mama
Cass Elliot, more information surfaced about earlier mysterious deaths
of Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, and Janis Joplin. Listed below, but not
updated this past year, are some of the rock musicians who have died
since the Huston Plan and the FBI Cointel-Program were activated. If
these people had been taking any kinds of drugs, there is the distinct
possibility that specific poisons were added to their drugs, enough to
be fatal, to make it appear that they had died from a simple
"overdose".
John Lennon Paul Kossoff John Bonham
Elvis Presley Jim Reeves Steve Parson
Buddy Holly Berry Oakley Bob Marley
Otis Redding Tim Buckley Sal Mineo
Brian Jones Jim Croce Harry Chapin
Jimi Hendrix Richard Earina Brian Epstein,
Beatles manager
Janis Joplin Lenny Bruce
Jim Morrison Larry Williams Michael Jeffery, Jimi
Hendrix manager
Duane Allman Bon Scott, AC/DC
Mama Cass Elliot Richie Valens Rod McKernan, "Pig Pen" of
the Grateful Dead
Gram Parsons J. P. Richardson
Phil Oakes Ronnie Van Zandt
Marc Bolan Steve Gains Donald Rex Jackson, Grateful
Dead mgr.
Keith Moon Sid Viscious

The murder of John Lennon is the tragic finale to an entire era,
the reminder that once an artist becomes as popular and as political
as he was, his enemies will be waiting to make sure his messages never
appear again to awaken the slumbering youth.

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