LAPD's Impounding of Vehicles Upheld

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From the Los Angeles Times
LAPD's impounding of vehicles upheld
City attorney's office says cars can be seized from unlicensed drivers in most cases.
Police had imposed a moratorium on the practice.
By Richard Winton
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

September 7, 2007

A week after the LAPD announced a moratorium on impounding cars of unlicensed drivers
because of legal questions, the Los Angeles city attorney's office has determined
that the practice is legal in most cases.

The Los Angeles Police Department last month told officers to no longer impound
vehicles on traffic stops in which the only offense was driving without a license.
Drivers will continue to be cited for that offense. Vehicles will be impounded only
when they cannot be driven away by a licensed driver or parked legally and secured.

Officials said they would continue the moratorium until it was determined whether a
2005 appeals court ruling outlawed such impoundments.

Nick Velasquez, a spokesman for City Atty. Rocky Delgadillo, said the office believes
"the impound provisions are lawful" and is "vigorously defending this litigation."

LAPD officials have not yet said whether they will lift the moratorium.

The recent LAPD decision touches on what has long been a hot-button issue because
many unlicensed drivers whose cars are towed are illegal immigrants who cannot get
driver's licenses.

Immigrant-rights groups and some legislators for years have sought legislation
granting illegal immigrants some form of driver's licenses, but the bills have been
repeatedly rejected, most recently by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Former Gov. Gray
Davis signed such a bill during the recall campaign against him, but the Legislature
repealed the law at Schwarzenegger's urging soon after he ousted Davis.

LAPD officials said they decided to stop impounding until the city attorney's office
provides a final legal assessment of a 2005 decision by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of
Appeals involving an Oregon impound case.

Velasquez said that although the city attorney's office generally believes that the
city impound policy on unlicensed drivers' vehicles is legal, there may be
exceptions, which he refused to outline.

"The city attorney's office believes it is constitutional for the city to impound the
vehicle of an unlicensed driver, with a few narrow exceptions," he said. "Having said
that, because of attorney-client privilege, we are not able to discuss the counsel
this office has provided to the department with regard to specific vehicle impound
situations."

The LAPD impounds about 47,000 cars a year belonging to drivers who are unlicensed or
have revoked or suspended licenses. Officials don't gather information on how many of
them are illegal immigrants.

In Miranda vs. the City of Cornelius, Ore., the 9th Circuit found that impounding a
legally parked vehicle was unreasonable seizure of private property under the 4th and
14th amendments when there was no reasonable public safety justification.

The case involved Jorge Miranda, who was teaching his unlicensed wife, Irene, to
drive his car. An officer saw the woman driving and made a traffic stop in the
couple's driveway. The officer cited the husband for allowing an unlicensed driver to
operate his car and cited the wife for driving without a license. Police impounded
the car for 30 days.

Other law enforcement agencies have reviewed the case and concluded that they can
continue impounding cars.

richard.winton@latimes.com
 
Until the next ACLU, MALDEF, PRLDEF lawsuit that is.

"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAmnesty@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-cityatty7sep07,1,103619.story?coll=la-headlines-california
>
> From the Los Angeles Times
> LAPD's impounding of vehicles upheld
> City attorney's office says cars can be seized from unlicensed drivers in
> most cases.
> Police had imposed a moratorium on the practice.
> By Richard Winton
> Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
>
> September 7, 2007
>
> A week after the LAPD announced a moratorium on impounding cars of
> unlicensed drivers
> because of legal questions, the Los Angeles city attorney's office has
> determined
> that the practice is legal in most cases.
>
> The Los Angeles Police Department last month told officers to no longer
> impound
> vehicles on traffic stops in which the only offense was driving without a
> license.
> Drivers will continue to be cited for that offense. Vehicles will be
> impounded only
> when they cannot be driven away by a licensed driver or parked legally and
> secured.
>
> Officials said they would continue the moratorium until it was determined
> whether a
> 2005 appeals court ruling outlawed such impoundments.
>
> Nick Velasquez, a spokesman for City Atty. Rocky Delgadillo, said the
> office believes
> "the impound provisions are lawful" and is "vigorously defending this
> litigation."
>
> LAPD officials have not yet said whether they will lift the moratorium.
>
> The recent LAPD decision touches on what has long been a hot-button issue
> because
> many unlicensed drivers whose cars are towed are illegal immigrants who
> cannot get
> driver's licenses.
>
> Immigrant-rights groups and some legislators for years have sought
> legislation
> granting illegal immigrants some form of driver's licenses, but the bills
> have been
> repeatedly rejected, most recently by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Former
> Gov. Gray
> Davis signed such a bill during the recall campaign against him, but the
> Legislature
> repealed the law at Schwarzenegger's urging soon after he ousted Davis.
>
> LAPD officials said they decided to stop impounding until the city
> attorney's office
> provides a final legal assessment of a 2005 decision by the U.S. 9th
> Circuit Court of
> Appeals involving an Oregon impound case.
>
> Velasquez said that although the city attorney's office generally believes
> that the
> city impound policy on unlicensed drivers' vehicles is legal, there may be
> exceptions, which he refused to outline.
>
> "The city attorney's office believes it is constitutional for the city to
> impound the
> vehicle of an unlicensed driver, with a few narrow exceptions," he said.
> "Having said
> that, because of attorney-client privilege, we are not able to discuss the
> counsel
> this office has provided to the department with regard to specific vehicle
> impound
> situations."
>
> The LAPD impounds about 47,000 cars a year belonging to drivers who are
> unlicensed or
> have revoked or suspended licenses. Officials don't gather information on
> how many of
> them are illegal immigrants.
>
> In Miranda vs. the City of Cornelius, Ore., the 9th Circuit found that
> impounding a
> legally parked vehicle was unreasonable seizure of private property under
> the 4th and
> 14th amendments when there was no reasonable public safety justification.
>
> The case involved Jorge Miranda, who was teaching his unlicensed wife,
> Irene, to
> drive his car. An officer saw the woman driving and made a traffic stop in
> the
> couple's driveway. The officer cited the husband for allowing an
> unlicensed driver to
> operate his car and cited the wife for driving without a license. Police
> impounded
> the car for 30 days.
>
> Other law enforcement agencies have reviewed the case and concluded that
> they can
> continue impounding cars.
>
> richard.winton@latimes.com
>
 
On Sep 7, 5:08 pm, AnAmericanCitizen <NoAmne...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-cityatty7sep07,1,103619.story...
>
> From the Los Angeles Times
> LAPD's impounding of vehicles upheld
> City attorney's office says cars can be seized from unlicensed drivers in most cases.
> Police had imposed a moratorium on the practice.
> By Richard Winton
> Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
>
> September 7, 2007
>
> A week after the LAPD announced a moratorium on impounding cars of unlicensed drivers
> because of legal questions, the Los Angeles city attorney's office has determined
> that the practice is legal in most cases.


HOORAY!

> LAPD officials have not yet said whether they will lift the moratorium.


Sellout Traitors.

> Other law enforcement agencies have reviewed the case and concluded that they can
> continue impounding cars.


Hallelujah.

- Stewart (San Diego Minutemen)
 
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