Lawyer files suit against US prison slavery.

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SAN FRANCISCO
Lawyer slams prison wages
Tony Serra files suit on behalf of federal inmates
for low rate of pay for labor by the incarcerated
by Bob Egelko

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J. Tony Serra, celebrated by filmmakers and fellow lawyers as an advocate for the
downtrodden and jailed by the feds for dodging his taxes, was out of prison and back
at work -- suing over the low wages federal inmates earn and citing the 19 cents an
hour he got for watering penitentiary gardens.
"I'm angry at a system that perpetuates, from my perspective, slave labor," Serra,
72, said at a news conference in his office on Broadway in San Francisco's North
Beach. Behind him was a prisoner's painting showing a shackled and grimacing inmate
in the hands of two guards.
He said he wasn't complaining about personal mistreatment -- his nine months at the
federal prison camp in Lompoc (Santa Barbara County) and one month at a halfway house
were "a 10-month vacation," he said -- but about systemic unfairness.
In the prison industries program, in which he and other inmates were required to
work, he was assigned to water the prison gardens for five hours a day, 20 days a
month, and paid $19 each month, or 19 cents an hour, Serra said. He said other
prisoners whose work was much more arduous were paid between 5 cents and $1.65 an
hour.
"Prison industries is a dirty secret," Serra said, describing a nationwide network of
prison camps churning out products made by low-paid inmates for contractors and
federal agencies that, he said, might otherwise buy the same goods from unionized
private plants.
He also sang the praises of "fabulous jailhouse lawyers" and of a multiracial society
of inmates at Lompoc, where "white-collar millionaires and people right out of the
ghetto were enjoying themselves together," united by their hatred of prison guards.
It was vintage Serra.
"Tony has come out of his prison sentence even more energized to fight against
injustice," said San Francisco Public Defender Jeff Adachi, who testified on Serra's
behalf at his July 2005 sentencing hearing. "You put him in prison, he's going to not
only look at potential injustices, but he's the kind of person that does something
when he gets out. It probably would have been cheaper for the government just to put
Tony on probation."
Hollywood latched onto the attorney in the 1989 movie "True Believer," in which James
Woods played a character based on Serra, who wins an acquittal in a Chinatown murder
case. Adachi, who worked on the real-life case as a college student, recalled that he
and others "couldn't find a lawyer in town" to help the defendant before locating
Serra.
Serra also successfully defended Black Panthers leader Huey Newton in a murder trial
and has represented scores of controversial and unpopular clients while living a
Spartan life and driving a rundown car.
His prison lawsuit, like many of his cases, appears to be a longshot. Others have
challenged the prison pay system, citing federal minimum-wage laws and other
arguments, without success.
Serra's lawsuit, filed Tuesday in federal court in San Francisco, invokes federal
labor law, the constitutional ban on slavery and U.N. standards for treatment of
prisoners.
Serra's lawyer, John Murcko, said the U.N. standards entitle prisoners to "equitable
remuneration" -- which he pegged at $25 an hour -- and that federal labor law should
entitle them to the federal minimum wage, $5.15 an hour. The suit seeks damages for
all Lompoc inmates in the prison industries program, a number Murcko estimated at
between 300 and 500.
Felicia Ponce, spokeswoman for the U.S. Bureau of Prisons, declined to comment on the
suit or on prison wages.
Serra was freed March 13 after serving a sentence for his third tax conviction, a
guilty plea to two misdemeanor charges of willfully failing to pay $44,000 in federal
income taxes in 1998 and 1999. He had previously spent four months at Lompoc in 1974
for failing to file tax returns, in a protest against the Vietnam War, and was given
probation for filing late returns in 1986.
"I'm a lifelong tax boycotter," he said Wednesday. To maintain his law practice, he
said, he'll comply with a court order to pay $100,000 in back taxes, and will "do my
best to abide by the law" in the future.
He said his California law license was suspended for six months but has been
restored, because his convictions were misdemeanors rather than felonies. That
allowed him to practice law during his last months in prison, helping fellow inmates
with their criminal cases as well as with divorces, wills and other matters, he said.
After 44 years as an attorney, Serra said, "I want to practice vigorously another
10." That means staying out of prison, he said, because "you can't fight them from
inside."
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I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
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read the constitution. it outlaws slavery 'except as punishment for a
crime'. Nearly all blacks are guilty of some crime, slavery is
therefore retroactively justified.
 
Fascism cannot be sympathized with any more. Criminal supremacy
defines the radical supremacist's mind over politics, cruelty
over human rights, in no way meeting human rights standards that
define the West. Prisoners cannot smoke and spend hundreds of
dollars for a pack of cigarettes. Cigarettes are the last
right a human being has. In Democracy the government and streets
belong to the people of all colors and habits.

In days of slavery the situation was the same. I stretched and pulled
a dark-glassed, short, round-red-bearded all-wise slave owner's
nipples long and said: Now you have long and pointy nipples.
You can sniff it but don't bite it, it might give a bad image to the
slaves.

Criminal supremacy has been racially corrupt in the government
ever since, perhaps I shouldn't have pulled his nipples, the
racist anger has driven Bush to erect a model Arab in Iraq,
a model Iraqi for the whole Arab world, an Iraqi erected as
better than Arabs. Surely he did not care of my man-nipple
pulling, all he sees is enemies, and teaches his military
in 110 countries to accept nothing but a win, though not all
are into winning or loosing in regards to supremacist crimes
against humanity. Criminal supremacy stems to the 1930's
KKK, and it is terrorism. Bush is a terrorist.

Safety cannot compromize racism, or it is a corruption. That is
a law. Look at the facts. Bush is still erecting an Iraq as a model
for the whole Arab world, a country better than Arabs. Racism.
Bush immensely worsened racism. 80-90 percent of Arabs
think negatively of Americans today, while in the past Arabs
thought positively of Americans according to statistics.

Criminal supremacy long-corrupted the US government
historically. Racism cannot be allowed, and human-rights
standards that define the West must be respected.

The only other righteous fanatic of criminal supremacy
robbing, looting humanity for radical supremacy
and thinks he got it is Google.

The rest are stupid sheep.
 
"Fact Attack" <ilp3003@yahoo.com> wrote
news:1174607684.462422.139650@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> read the constitution. it outlaws slavery 'except as
> punishment for a crime'. Nearly all blacks are guilty
> of some crime, slavery is therefore retroactively justified.


You must be suffering from a "Brain-fart Attack,"
to continue so ridiculous justification of slavery....

Because regardless of what's written in very old,
and long obsolete constitution, all of the forms of
slavery were abolished world-wide, including US,
by the 1948 Universal Charter of Human Rights...

You can find it in Article 4 of the Human Rights @
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html,
http://www.un.org/rights/50/decla.htm,
or http://www.hrweb.org/legal/udhr.html
--
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I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
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"Zeppo" <KissMy@ss> wrote
news:46031795.46723984@news.newsguy.com...
>
>
> A woman masturbated while her son and husband
> kidnapped, raped, and murdered a 6-year-old boy.



I understand your frustration, and I feel your
pain? but there are better, and more efficient
ways to address crime, which at teh same
time do not violate the sacred Human Rights...
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
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<gb6726@yahoo.com> wrote
news:1174608490.233621.132450@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>

....<snip>...redundant crap has been carefully removed...
>
> Criminal supremacy long-corrupted the US government
> historically. Racism cannot be allowed, and human-rights
> standards that define the West must be respected.



You are mostly correct. Because the Human Rights
should not be compromised under any justifications
or excuses. Threfeore, all of the tools of slavery and
genocide, such as the incarceration industry and all
of the affiliated institutions, ought to be eliminated. ...
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****sucker Jack" <KissMy@ss> wrote
news:46032c6f.52138718@news.newsguy.com...
>
> "_ G O D _" wrote:
>
>>"Fact Attack" <ilp3003@yahoo.com> wrote
>>news:1174607684.462422.139650@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>> read the constitution. it outlaws slavery 'except as
>>> punishment for a crime'. Nearly all blacks are guilty
>>> of some crime, slavery is therefore retroactively justified.

>>
>>You must be suffering from a "Brain-fart Attack,"
>>to continue so ridiculous justification of slavery....

>
>
> Yeah, you puppy-dog, bleeding heart pussies somehow overlook that.
>


Calm down, ****-sucker. Maybe sucking will help you.....
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****sucker Jack" <KissMy@ss> wrote
news:46032c6b.52134234@news.newsguy.com...
>
> "_ G O D _" wrote:
>
>>"****sucker Jack" <KissMy@ss> wrote
>>news:46031795.46723984@news.newsguy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> A woman masturbated while her son and husband
>>> kidnapped, raped, and murdered a 6-year-old boy.

>>
>>
>>I understand your frustration,

>
> Das right whigger, and cuz you speakin' up fo us I gwan give
> ya my pair of "felony fliers" that I uses to run from the cops.


Perhaps the best way for you to calm down would
be sucking on another ****, ****-sucker?
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_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****sucker Jack" <KissMy@ss> wrote
news:46032c74.52143578@news.newsguy.com...
>
> "_ G O D _" wrote:
>
>
>>You are mostly correct. Because the Human Rights
>>should not be compromised under any justifications
>>or excuses. Therefore, all of the tools of slavery and
>>genocide, such as the incarceration industry and all
>>of the affiliated institutions, ought to be eliminated. ...

>
> You and your ex-hippie mother should be eliminated ....


This is not the first time you've expressed your
****-sucking sadistic desire to see me dead,
americunt Sock-sucker you are. It is not going
to happen, pervert. But I will not be offended, if
you will eat **** and die as soon as possible....
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****sucker Jack" <chillin'@home.org> wrote
news:4603b86c.933062@free.teranews.com...
>
>
> I'm entitled to suck blood though ****s,
> but no human rights for sub-humans.



****-sucker, if you are indeed considering yourself
as quintessential representative of sadistic Christian
****-sucking americunts, then your nation deserves
nothing else but sympathy toward its pitiful residents.
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"Way Back Jack" <chillin'@home.org> wrote
news:4603b871.937812@free.teranews.com...
>
>
> I am not tired of sucking blood from dicks of
> sub-human prisoners, and I hope I'll be able to
> suck on all of them. Just don't let them know.


But wouldn't it defeat the purpose, then? Because
keeping it in secret may stop their flow to prisons....
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_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****-sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
>
> Two Men Arrested, Eight Others Sought in Rape of 11-Year-Old Fresno
> Girl
>
> http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/rapecase711
>
> As many as 10 black men -- most of them current
> or former football players at local junior colleges --
> may be responsible for the rape of an 11-year-old
> Latino girl in Fresno, California, police told


They must have exaggerated the number of gang-bangers,
when this story came out on the news right after it occured.
Then it was reported that a number of rapists was over 20...

They are obviously being slow in investigation and court
conviction, if only two of them have been arrested so far....
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****-sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
news:46080680.24185359@news.usenetmonster.com...
>
> "_ G O D _" wrote:
>
>>"****-sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
>>>
>>> Two Men Arrested, Eight Others Sought in Rape of 11-Year-Old Fresno
>>> Girl
>>>
>>> http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/rapecase711
>>>
>>> As many as 10 black men -- most of them current
>>> or former football players at local junior colleges --
>>> may be responsible for the rape of an 11-year-old
>>> Latino girl in Fresno, California, police told

>>
>>They must have exaggerated the number of gang-bangers,
>>when this story came out on the news right after it occurred.
>>Then it was reported that a number of rapists was over 20...
>>
>>They are obviously being slow in investigation and court
>>conviction, if only two of them have been arrested so far....

>
> These predators are your heroes, pansy-boy.


I am not quite sure about calling them predators,
but I got the impression that they are you heroes.
Because you are the one cherishing them, not me.
I wouldn't spend a penny to keep them in the same
country with me even for one day. You, on the other
hand, are willing to give them livelihood of people
who take pride in their work for a living, in addition
to spending on them billions of dollars of taxpayers
hard-earned money... only to let them out through a
revolving door of prison, and see their crimes again...
You know, slavery is only perpetuating crime rather
than addressing it, ****sucker....
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
On Mar 22, 7:54 pm, "Fact Attack" <ilp3...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Nearly all blacks are guilty of some crime


As are nearly all whites. So some white slavery would be justified as
well.
 
On 26 Mar 2007 17:48:23 -0700, rms1@my-deja.com wrote:

>On Mar 22, 7:54 pm, "Fact Attack" <ilp3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Nearly all blacks are guilty of some crime

>
>As are nearly all whites. So some white slavery would be justified as
>well.


Got news for ya son.

All of our ancestors were enslaved, at some point in time.
 
"****-sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
news:4608136e.27558546@news.usenetmonster.com...
>
>>"****-sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
>>news:46080680.24185359@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>
>>> "_ G O D _" wrote:
>>>
>>>>"****-sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> Two Men Arrested, Eight Others Sought in Rape of 11-Year-Old Fresno
>>>>> Girl
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/rapecase711
>>>>>
>>>>> As many as 10 black men -- most of them current
>>>>> or former football players at local junior colleges --
>>>>> may be responsible for the rape of an 11-year-old
>>>>> Latino girl in Fresno, California, police told
>>>>
>>>>They must have exaggerated the number of gang-bangers,
>>>>when this story came out on the news right after it occurred.
>>>>Then it was reported that a number of rapists was over 20...
>>>>
>>>>They are obviously being slow in investigation and court
>>>>conviction, if only two of them have been arrested so far....
>>>
>>> These predators are your heroes, pansy-boy.

>
> by the way, they ain't gang member but college students.


Little do you know, that "gang banging" means
a "collective/grop rape" in slang of americunts....

> Y'see, you can take an animal from the ghetto, put him in
> a suit and tie, send him to college .... he's still an animal.


Then there's more reasons to keep them out of
the country, and away from the civilized people,
****-sucker.....
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"****sucker Jack" <Kissyour@ss> wrote
news:4607ac8f.1082937@news.newsguy.com...
>
> Only 5% of my momma's johns were white,
> yet it had to be my misfortune that my egg
> was fertilized by a white sperm.
> I've never forgiven her for that.


Get over it, ****sucker. Nobody cares about it....
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_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--
 
"Jack" <Windswept@home> wrote
news:46086ff6.51386484@news-60.giganews.com...
> rms1@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>>"Fact Attack" wrote:
>>
>>> Nearly all blacks are guilty of some crime

>>
>>As are nearly all whites. So some white
>>slavery would be justified as well.

>
>
> All of our ancestors were enslaved, at some point in time.



Maybe yours were enslaved, indeed. But we
aren't talking about ancestors." We're talking
about current US gulag economy which relies
on perpetuation of slavery against defenceless
hostages of the incarceration industry in favor
of illegal capitalization from unfair exploitation
of slave labor of defenceless hostages of the
predatory prison system and perverse justice....
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all ****-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
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