Guest Gandalf Grey Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) By Dave Lindorff Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am In a couple days, Americans will be deluged with effusive, praise-filled stories in what passes for news organizations, print and electronic, in the US, quoting Gen. David Petraeus on the glories of his and President Bush's brilliant so-called "surge" strategy in Iraq. There will be little critical comment on his report, which will claim that the surge is working but that Iraqi's "need to do more" to take advantage of the surge in stability to create a stable government in Baghdad. He will claim, and the media will help him here, that the collapse of President Nouri al-Maliki's "defining moment" attack on the Mahdi Army of Moqtada al-Sadr in Basra, with 1000 of his crack troops and two leading officers defecting to the other side, and Maliki himself having to be rescued by American troops, was a minor event. He will claim that the rise in violence in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq back to pre-surge levels is of no significance--a statistical aberration. And President Bush will ask for another $102 billion from Congress to continue funding his catastrophic war in Iraq. Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. Odom, who on April 2 testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. Gen. Odom told the committee that the last time he had testified about Iraq was in January of 2007. He had been asked about the "surge". He said, "Today you are asking if it has worked. Last year I rejected the claim that it was a new strategy. Rather, I said, it is a new tactic used to achieve the same old strategic aim, political stability. And I foresaw no serious prospects for success. I see no reason to change my judgment now. The surge is prolonging instability, not creating the conditions for unity as the president claims." Gen. Odom said, "Violence has been temporarily reduced but today there is credible evidence that the political situation is far more fragmented. And currently we see violence surge in Baghdad and Basra. In fact, it has also remained sporadic and significant in several other parts of Iraq over the past year, notwithstanding the notable drop in Baghdad and Anbar Province. More disturbing, Prime Minister Maliki has initiated military action and then dragged in US forces to help his own troops destroy his Shiite competitors. This is a political setback, not a political solution. Such is the result of the surge tactic. Odom went on to say, "No less disturbing has been the steady violence in the Mosul area, and the tensions in Kirkuk between Kurds, Arabs, and Turkomen. A showdown over control of the oil fields there surely awaits us. And the idea that some kind of a federal solution can cut this Gordian knot strikes me as a wild fantasy, wholly out of touch with Kurdish realities." As for the Bush claim that Sunni Muslims in western Iraq and Fallujah were now siding with the US (the government never mentions that they are being handsomely paid to do so), Odom said, "Their break with al Qaeda should give us little comfort. The Sunnis welcomed anyone who would help them kill Americans, including al Qaeda. The concern we hear the president and his aides express about a residual base left for al Qaeda if we withdraw is utter nonsense. The Sunnis will soon destroy al Qaeda if we leave Iraq. The Kurds do not allow them in their region, and the Shiites, like the Iranians, detest al Qaeda. To understand why, one need only take note of the al Qaeda public diplomacy campaign over the past year or so on internet blogs. They implore the United States to bomb and invade Iran and destroy this apostate Shiite regime." Then Odom let fly a real bomb. "As an aside," he told the committee, in a statement that you won't read in your daily paper or hear on the TV news, "it gives me pause to learn that our vice president and some members of the Senate are aligned with al Qaeda on spreading the war to Iran." Odom said America was buying Sunni backing in just one region for $250,000 a day, and he warned, "we don't own these people, we rent them." Saying the Bush administration's argument that it could build a stable democratic government by working with local strongmen in Iraq, he challenged the senators to "Ask them to name a single historical case where power has been aggregated successfully from local strong men to a central government except through bloody violence leading to a single winner, most often a dictator. " The general's conclusion: "We face a deteriorating political situation with an over extended army. When the administration's witnesses appear before you, you should make them clarify how long the army and marines can sustain this band-aid strategy." Odom instead called for immediate withdrawal, "rapidly but in good order." He said, "Only that step can break the paralysis now gripping US strategy in the region. The next step is to choose a new aim, regional stability, not a meaningless victory in Iraq." He said if Bush and Cheney would simply stop threatening "regime change" by force as a policy, and in specific if it stopped threatening Iran, it would lead Iran to reduce its support of the Taliban in Afghanistan, and to change its policy toward Iraq, too. The US "needs to make Iran feel more secure," he said. Odom took the occasion to debunk arguments against early and rapid withdrawal. To those who say the US needs to continue to train Iraqi forces, he said, "Training foreign forces before they have a consolidated political authority to command their loyalty is a windmill tilt. Finally, Iraq is not short on military skills. To those who warn of chaos following a US withdrawal, he recalled the warnings of a "domino" effect if the US left Vietnam, he said, "the path to political stability will be bloody regardless of whether we withdraw or not." He added, "The real moral question is whether to risk the lives of more Americans. Unlike preventing chaos, we have the physical means to stop sending more troops where many will be killed or wounded. That is the moral responsibility to our country which no American leaders seems willing to assume." Finally he said those opposed to withdrawal warn it would create regional instability, but countered, " This confuses cause with effect. Our forces in Iraq and our threat to change Iran's regime are making the region unstable. Those who link instability with a US withdrawal have it exactly backwards. Odom concluded, "I implore you to reject these fallacious excuses for prolonging the commitment of US forces to war in Iraq." Congress, and the two candidates seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, both of whom are hedging their way towards a continued military presence for years in Iraq, should listen to this general, and not the one whom the recently resigned Central Commander, Admiral William Fallon, called an "ass-licking little chickenshit," Gen. Petraeus. _______ -- NOTICE: This post contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been authorized by the copyright owner. I am making such material available to advance understanding of political, human rights, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues. I believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107 "A little patience and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. But if the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake." -Thomas Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest syvyn11 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... > Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) > > By Dave Lindorff > > Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am > > Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to listen to another > general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. Odom, who on April 2 testified > before > the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). again homolover! You don't understand anything, you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smirnoff Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com > "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >> >> By Dave Lindorff >> >> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am > > >> >> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to >> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. >> Odom, who on April 2 testified before >> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. > > There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). > > again homolover! You don't understand anything, you > have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone > who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned during wartime. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+military+leaders+resign&btnG=Google+Search http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gandalf Grey Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... > again homolover! Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and puts his foot in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest syvyn11 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... > > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... > >> again homolover! > > Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet Club > of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and puts his > foot in it. Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ahso#1 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > > > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com >> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >>> >>> By Dave Lindorff >>> >>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am >> >> >>> >>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to >>> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. >>> Odom, who on April 2 testified before >>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. >> >> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). >> >> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you >> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone >> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. > > Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned during > wartime. Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+military+leaders+resign&btnG=Google+Search > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johnny R. Hanoi Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "ahso#1" <columbus@evuygt.com> wrote in message news:QAzKj.302$PJ3.104@trndny02... > > "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message > news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com >>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >>>> >>>> By Dave Lindorff >>>> >>>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to >>>> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. >>>> Odom, who on April 2 testified before >>>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. >>> >>> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). >>> >>> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you >>> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone >>> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. >> >> Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned during >> wartime. > > Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., Why did you just lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest syvyn11 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "ahso#1" <columbus@evuygt.com> wrote in message news:QAzKj.302$PJ3.104@trndny02... > > "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message > news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com >>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >>>> >>>> By Dave Lindorff >>>> >>>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to >>>> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. >>>> Odom, who on April 2 testified before >>>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. >>> >>> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). >>> >>> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you >>> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone >>> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. >> >> Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned during >> wartime. > > Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., For libs, history is flexable. > >> >> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+military+leaders+resign&btnG=Google+Search >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gandalf Grey Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47fa9f87$0$19855$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... > > "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >> >>> again homolover! >> >> Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet >> Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and >> puts his foot in it. > > Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. Funny how Snivel wishes I were gay. > > > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest syvyn11 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message news:47fad7b6$0$6048$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... > > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:47fa9f87$0$19855$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >> >> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>> >>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>> >>>> again homolover! >>> >>> Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet >>> Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and >>> puts his foot in it. >> >> Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. > > Funny how Snivel wishes I were gay. Not wishing anything, you are gay and a traitor to America. You are scum and will be dealt with, harshly. In this world and the next. you are in my death note! http://deathnote.viz.com/ "those who disrespect their gods must die!" -Kira the god of death > >> >> >> >>> >>> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4025 Dead Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:27:15 -0400, "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote: > >"Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:47fad7b6$0$6048$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa9f87$0$19855$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>> >>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>> >>>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>>> >>>>> again homolover! >>>> >>>> Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet >>>> Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and >>>> puts his foot in it. >>> >>> Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. >> >> Funny how Snivel wishes I were gay. > >Not wishing anything, you are gay and a traitor to America. You are scum >and will be dealt with, harshly. In this world and the next. Oh, wow, Gandalf. Check out the toy nazi. > > >you are in my death note! > >http://deathnote.viz.com/ > >"those who disrespect their gods must die!" > >-Kira >the god of death > > >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- What do you call a Republican with a conscience? An ex-Republican. http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c) "Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001 Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal! Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to. For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary, http://www.zeppscommentaries.com For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day) Zepps_News-subscribe@yahoogroups.com For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week) Zepps_essays-subscribe@yahoogroups.com a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest monkey_cartman1@yahoo.com Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 ahso#1 wrote: > "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message > news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > > > > > > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com > >> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... > >>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) > >>> > >>> By Dave Lindorff > >>> > >>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to > >>> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. > >>> Odom, who on April 2 testified before > >>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. > >> > >> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). > >> > >> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you > >> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone > >> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. > > > > Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned during > > wartime. > > Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., > I don't know if what you said is even remotely true, I don't think you do either, but would they have resigned under Clinton with dignity in service to America the people and it's military? Look at how Powell resigned under BUSH. Powell resigned in shame and disgrace. Others I assume resigned because they could not and would not uphold the lie scumbag administration of Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest This is your brain on Fox News. Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 On Apr 7, 12:27 pm, "syvyn11" <robhorine...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Gandalf Grey" <valino...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... > > > Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) > > > By Dave Lindorff > > > Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am > > > Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to listen to another > > general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. Odom, who on April 2 testified > > before > > the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. > > There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). > > again homolover! You don't understand anything, you have to scrape the > bottom of the barrel to find someone who agrees with your "defeat america" > agenda. He retired because because he was 64 out the time of his retirement and had served over thirty years in the military. Odom received a Ph.D and has held many important posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Smirnoff Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "ahso#1" <columbus@evuygt.com> wrote in message news:QAzKj.302$PJ3.104@trndny02 > "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message > news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com >>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >>>> >>>> By Dave Lindorff >>>> >>>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good >>>> to listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) >>>> William E. Odom, who on April 2 testified before >>>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. >>> >>> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). >>> >>> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you >>> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone >>> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. >> >> Never in history have so many military leaders in the US >> resigned during wartime. > > Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., Back up some of what you have posted foo...Don't just slither away. > >> >> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+military+leaders+resign&btnG=Google+Search >> >> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1434540.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lamont Cranston Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Gandalf Grey wrote: > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... > >> again homolover! > > Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet > Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and > puts his foot in it. ....or puts part of the male anatomy in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lamont Cranston Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 syvyn11 wrote: > "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:47fad7b6$0$6048$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa9f87$0$19855$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>> >>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>> >>>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>>> >>>>> again homolover! >>>> >>>> Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The >>>> Closet Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat >>>> mouth and puts his foot in it. >>> >>> Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. >> >> Funny how Snivel wishes I were gay. > > Not wishing anything, you are gay and a traitor to America. You > are scum and will be dealt with, harshly. In this world and the > next. When are you coming out of the closet, Shitburner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gandalf Grey Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "4025 Dead" <zepp22114025@finestplanet.com> wrote in message news:gf1mv393j79qsl1gh2uq276pm1ubed71vf@4ax.com... > On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:27:15 -0400, "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >>"Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:47fad7b6$0$6048$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>> >>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa9f87$0$19855$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>>> >>>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>>> >>>>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>>>> >>>>>> again homolover! >>>>> >>>>> Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet >>>>> Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and >>>>> puts his foot in it. >>>> >>>> Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. >>> >>> Funny how Snivel wishes I were gay. >> >>Not wishing anything, you are gay and a traitor to America. You are >>scum >>and will be dealt with, harshly. In this world and the next. > > Oh, wow, Gandalf. Check out the toy nazi. Great. Just when I was making headway with Herr Topaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gandalf Grey Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47faf447$0$19841$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... > > "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:47fad7b6$0$6048$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >> >> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:47fa9f87$0$19855$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>> >>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa7512$0$24982$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>> >>>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>>> >>>>> again homolover! >>>> >>>> Funny how the "homo" comments keep coming from the Deep In The Closet >>>> Club of the GOP. Another Wide-Stance Rightie opens his fat mouth and >>>> puts his foot in it. >>> >>> Funny how Gandalf Gay can't refute what I said. >> >> Funny how Snivel wishes I were gay. > > Not wishing anything, you are gay and a traitor to America. You're projecting again, Snyivel > You are scum and will be dealt with, harshly. Sending your mom after me? > > > you are in my death note! You are into the drugs again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ahso#1 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 <monkey_cartman1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5b0d45f7-7b9a-46a6-966a-af16c9c7a628@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > ahso#1 wrote: >> "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message >> news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> > >> > >> > "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> > news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com >> >> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >> >>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >> >>> >> >>> By Dave Lindorff >> >>> >> >>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to >> >>> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. >> >>> Odom, who on April 2 testified before >> >>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. >> >> >> >> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). >> >> >> >> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you >> >> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone >> >> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. >> > >> > Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned >> > during >> > wartime. >> >> Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., >> > > I don't know if what you said is even remotely true, I don't think you > do either, but would they have resigned > under Clinton with dignity in service to America the people and it's > military? > > Look at how Powell resigned under BUSH. Powell resigned in shame and > disgrace. Others I assume resigned because they could not and would > not uphold the lie scumbag administration of Bush. You libs have selective memories . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ahso#1 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 "Johnny R. Hanoi" <Radio McHanoi@bushcocksucker.net> wrote in message news:UZzKj.1244$h75.365@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > "ahso#1" <columbus@evuygt.com> wrote in message > news:QAzKj.302$PJ3.104@trndny02... >> >> "Smirnoff" <Unlised@unlisted.com> wrote in message >> news:6PuKj.2569$lU5.2144@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >>> >>> >>> "syvyn11" <robhorine711@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:47fa7594$0$19830$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com >>>> "Gandalf Grey" <valinor20@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:47fa64ad$1$6049$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com... >>>>> Listen to the General (No, Not Petraeus!) >>>>> >>>>> By Dave Lindorff >>>>> >>>>> Created Apr 6 2008 - 10:47am >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just to keep our sanity and clarity, it would be good to >>>>> listen to another general, Lt. General (ret.) William E. >>>>> Odom, who on April 2 testified before >>>>> the Senate Foreign Relations Committee [1]. >>>> >>>> There must be a reason that he is 'retired' (fired!). >>>> >>>> again homolover! You don't understand anything, you >>>> have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find someone >>>> who agrees with your "defeat america" agenda. >>> >>> Never in history have so many military leaders in the US resigned during >>> wartime. >> >> Never? Aside from the Clinton administration you mean ., > > Why did you just lie? I thought you plonked me last month .Liar .I guess I have to call your mommy again and tell her to restrict your internet usage some more . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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