Guest john winston Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Subject: Here Come The Chemtrails. Dec. 8, 2007. We are still getting sprayed here in Sonora, Calif. Here is some information about the situation. ............................................................ ............................................................ Chemtrails and UFOs A Fortean View Colin B-nnett http://www.combat-diaries.co.uk/diary30/chemtrails %20and%20ufos%20xyz.htm Published in UFO M-gazine June, 2007 Some years ago, when chemtrails had hardly been noticed or commented upon, I was watching three such trails develop in the sky when I saw three quite distinct white spheres come out of the trails and after lazing about for a few seconds, they re-entered the body of the misty contrail and disappeared. They were about half the size of the little-finger thumb-nail at arms length, and varied their formation as I watched, though all kept to the same speed of maneuver. I suppose now this would be called an observation of three UFOs. I had a much more spectacular UFO experience (involving an element of lost time) after this chemtrails incident. I appreciated a comment from a friend that these two experiences put me at least on a par above most well-known researchers almost none of whom have seen a single UFO, though a few talk confidently as if they had seen hundreds of such things! Most are cold fish who have no idea of the sheer thrill involved in observing something whose behaviour is patently absurd, behaviour which I can now personally swear that in my opinion was not of this world. Such things (mercifully rare for our health of mind) are not within the paradigms upon which our planetary cultures are constructed. Some years after these experiences, these so-called "chemtrails" are now seen almost everywhere in the skies of the world. They are an incredible phenomenon of our time, if only because like UFO sightings, the broad span of social, p-litical, and intellectual life of major nations largely ignores such things utterly. Apart from the entertainment spectrum, most artists, playwrights, novelists, poets, ignore such anomalistic things as UFOs and chemtrails, even though they offer strange exotic images, symbols, metaphors, intrigue, possibly mysterious technology, and much more besides! The skies of the world, full previously of traditional pantomime clouds, now have a sky scored by lines of whitish-grey streaks. This change in the global view is also totally ignored also by major news, media, and communication outlets. This is strange again given that these large-scale chemtrail effects are often quite spectacular and beautiful when lit by the evening sun. The trails spread out at different rates, they come from different angles, and the aircraft that create them can be seen streaking across the sky, often several at once, and at extremely high speeds. The word "chemtrails" is used here for lack of a better word, but it is unlikely that what we see spreading out across the sky are chemicals of some conventional kind. Such gross tonnage of chemicals would surely have the most immediate and obvious effect on both our minds and environment. We have no knowledge of where such tonnage is manufactured, processed, and presumably purchased, stored and installed in aircraft. Furthermore, this weight of chemicals becomes almost invisible and undetectable when it falls to earth after giving a most spectacular display in the skies which can be seen on clear days through every second kitchen window in the world. Attachment 2 Some three years ago, the Combat Diaries Intelligence Team of the New Fortean Times of which I am the Editor, http://www.combat-diaries.co.uk carried out an investigation of chemtrails over Britain. With the help of specialists (three men and one woman ex Royal Air F-rce), we conducted a 24-hour period of observation by web, telephone, and amateur radio of the skies over America and Central Europe, taking into account time differences. The results were quite disturbing. It was obvious that simultaneous operation by large numbers of quite visible aircraft were being mounted over continental areas on both sides of the Atlantic. Through contacts, we managed also to get reports on this selected same day from the civilian staff of merchant and cruise ships crossing the Atlantic and the Mediterranean. They reported that sky trails were visible whilst sailing in both these oceans. Thus we concluded that chemtrails represent a continuous operation of incredible magnitude. The aircraft involved show remarkably similar characteristics and performance, though their exact profile we have yet to find in any book of aircraft recognition. Though there were a few four-jet types involved, (resembling 747 and the older 707, very few of which are still flying) for the most part, the aircraft involved with chemtrails resemble in shape and size the Boeing 757 (the type that was said to have crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11). Though we used extremely high-powered telescopes and binoculars, no markings or insignia could be seen on these aircraft. This is remarkable in itself, because technically it is illegal. Measured by range theodolite and ex-service hand-held rangefinders, these strange aircraft were flying at approximately the same speed (being 1200 -1400 mph), and the height was always about 20,000-30,000 feet; this is somewhat high and fast for an outmoded passenger aircraft type, meant for inland short/medium range commuter flights at a top speed of 450 mph! These things are wonders in themselves, but it is the sheer number of these pseudo 757-type aircraft that is beyond belief. On this chosen sample day, our reporters in France, Germany and Holland, Spain, Italy and Israel alone reported at noon the sky trails of no less than 234 almost identical aircraft at between 20,000 and 40,000 feet. Since this hourly rate continued during the day it represented some 2340 sorties over ten hours. Worldwide, multiplying the quite reasonable factor of 10, we have 23,400 sorties per day by planes of a non-mi-itary non-supersonic configuration, traveling at speeds equivalent to the highest speed of an F16 or Typhoon Euro-fighter. By comparison, NATO figures for annual full-scale exercises amount to something like 300 (jet supersonic) combat sorties at full stretch for the same time period, involving some no more than 150 aircraft. Again, the absence of reported noise is strange. Even a single Tornado on afterburner over central London would shake the population up considerably. Since our observers at a dozen or so mi-itary and civilian airfields reported no such activity by any such aircraft, we have here a modern mystery in our skies visible to all on a clear day. National airspace regulations don't appear to be a problem at all with any country as far as these infringements are concerned. The official military and civilian air agencies as usual with UFO sightings, hear nothing, see nothing, and say nothing. This vast number of aircraft appear to have no detectable bases, they have no apparent air-refueling needs, they do not carry mili-ary drop tanks. Their routes appear to stretch across the sky from all compass points, often crossing one another to form a lattice pattern. They appear also to have no detectible manufacturers, support bases, or refueling facilities. And they don't appear to land or take off! Again, since no air force in the world (not even the United S-ates Air F-rce) have any large supersonic transport aircraft, the presence of many hundreds of large supersonic transport aircraft is rather strange! The cost such of such visible operations on a worldwide basis by the approximately the same type of powerful aircraft must be stupendous. These aircraft have no legally required communications, no passenger lists, and no crashes as far as we know. The maintenance, fuelling, and repair facilities of such a great number of high-performance aircraft can only be imagined. The training schemes and accommodation of the personnel appear not to exist! Since no such numbers of this aircraft type are on manufacturer's lists, we have here a true mystery of our time. Where are they from, and what are they doing on their seemingly purposeless routes across the sky? Investigations are Continuing We are trying, by various means to monitor their VHF, and believe or not, there are amateur enthusiasts who register almost every flight in and out of British skies just as train-spotters gathered engine-numbers long ago! Not even these intrepid watchers could locate a single transmission from chemtrail aircraft, even though they knew all the legally required call signs of every other aircraft in the sky. Lack of any measurable frequency signature again is amazing because of the sheer number of aircraft that are entering and leaving (and indeed sometimes maneuvering) inside national airspace at will, with no recognition signals, and no visible identification. Since they are supersonic, they are over the visible horizon in seconds (the comparatively lazy motion of a 450 mph 747 Jumbo may be compared to them). Where these strangely silent aircraft all break into Mach 1 without disturbing a sparrow is another mystery. Part 1. John Winston. johnfw@mlode.com Subject: Golden Compass. Dec. 10, 2007. I just got through seeing the movie called Golden Compass mainly to see if it was as bad as people say it was. It turned out to be even worse that people said. There was violence and all that sort of thing in it but I loved it. A person attending the movie with me commented that the sound was too loud and the theater was too cool. I still would recommend that a person see this movie. It was bad. For the last few weeks I have enjoyed seeing all of the movies about "Lonesome Dove". Now on to some information about "The Golden Compass". ............................................................ ............................................................ http://www.imdb.com Philip Pullman (novel) Chris Weitz (screenplay) Release Date: 7 December 2007 (USA) "It is the Alethiometer. It tells the truth. As for how to read it, you'll have to learn by yourself." In a parallel universe, young Lyra Belacqua journeys to the far North to save her best friend and other kidnapped children from terrible experiments by a mysterious organization. Plot Synopsis http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385752/synopsis View full synopsis. Witch http://www.imdb.com/keyword/arctic Arctic verview, first billed only) (JW Here are some of the actors in the movie.) Nicole Kidman Marisa Coulter Daniel Craig Lord Asriel Dakota Blue Richards Lyra Belacqua Ben Walker Freddie Highmore Ian McKellen Iorek Byrnison Eva Green Serafina Pekkala Jim Carter John Faa Farder Coram Kristin Scott Thomas Edward de Souza Second High Councilor Kathy Bates Additional Details Rated PG-13 for sequences of fantasy violence. View content advisory for parents 113 min Sections/Languages/English Filming Locations: Bergen, Hordaland, Norway MOVIEmeter: According to Deborah Forte, she and Philip Pullman discussed Nicole Kidman for the role of Marisa Coulter 10 years before the movie went into production in 2006. All the elements of a 10 star movie are obviously prevalent here, but they don't all get put into play. I don't understand why New Line advertised this as the "next Lord Of The Rings epic", when they gave that movie close to three hours of film time and this only two! (?) Another half hour at least of this movie would have done it more justice, because it felt extremely rushed. It seemed like they were throwing information out at you too quick to fully grasp, and never letting the cast just immerse themselves in it. The music here was nothing short of ordinary. I don't remember a single song from the movie save the "gyption theme". I honestly think the music could have been 100 times better, and bring more immersion in. However, I believed the cast was great. It is truly great that Lyra, portrayed by Dakota Blue Richards, now has a face. They picked someone with the look and talent to really shine. Lord Asriel, portrayed by Daniel Craig and Ms. Coulter, portrayed by Nicole Kidman were played fantastically. Although Daniel Craig fans will be disappointed. He only has a 15 minute cameo. Lee Scoresby, portrayed by Sam Elliot, was great. It seems they intended him for a bit of comic relief, but I just had hoped they gave him more time to show it off due to the non-stop drama sequences. The scenery was amazing, and very believable. The daemons, magic, witches, are all very well done and very beautiful. I see this movie as a financial failure. You have to look at this from a critical view, the "new comers". The people the movie is trying to grab. I brought ten people to the advanced screening December 1st, four of which had read the books (myself included). They (and myself) had said that the plot was too rushed. The six that had not read them either said it was too confusing and ending up requiring explanations, or said it was too boring because they didn't take the time to flesh out the characters. Coincidentally, one of them got too frustrated with it and bored and walked out. Fanaticly, I really like this movie (but it is real rushed), however I tried looking at this movie with a newcomer view. Reality wise, people walking in who aren't loyal fanatics are probably going to be very disappointed. Unfortunately, the list of "loyal fanatics" isn't going to be enough to make this movie a success. At any rate, this is definitely no Lord Of The Rings... It's just another flick to watch on a rainy afternoon. John Winston. johnfw@mlode.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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